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121  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] on: May 28, 2014, 03:13:43 PM
Looking forward to an update about this mysterious thing that is more important than the website. =)

He's already told us what he's been doing.

At our DC working on increasing the hashrate on our Prospector and Gold Rush boards.

Ok thank you. I guess I missed that post.

122  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] on: May 28, 2014, 02:54:06 PM
Looking forward to an update about this mysterious thing that is more important than the website. =)
123  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: May 28, 2014, 02:52:06 PM
Just keep fishing for reasons to justify what amounts to unjustifiable behavior.

Go back to the start of this thread and review to see how profoundly different things have become wrt relations.

Not really unjustifiable though.

For one, Friedcat never said anything about a forum announcement. He told Board members that he had an announcement on May 27th.. Maybe for the board members? Also note that we received this information from someone who is not Friedcat.

Also note that just because some hardware has shipped to some companies does not mean that all companies received all of their chips. I believe it was stated that dividends won't be going out until all shipments have been made so that they don't have to save money for refunds.

Lastly, the post from Jut that contained all this information said "Subject to change."

Maybe the dates have changed?

No reason to get pitchforks after a missed deadline, that wasn't even concrete.

I think FC at least deserves this much, and definitely deserves to not be compared to Neo & Bee.
124  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: May 28, 2014, 06:35:15 AM
Remember that it wasn't FC who came on here directly and stated May 27th. It was delivered to us through the Board and it was subject to change.

Why are you guys immediately jumping to FC trying to deceive? Have you guys held shares all these months with this belief?
125  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] on: May 27, 2014, 06:26:09 PM
Kleeck your words are wasted. It seems that many here have never experienced failure. Many here have cried and complained and begged to just have their shares so they can sell off and put this behind them, and then when given their shares, they still decided to continue on in this endeavor.

If one wishes to be a part of the Lawsuit. Then please join the lawsuit. (If you are a part of the lawsuit, you have little reason to come on here and scream at Ken, feel free to post here and talk facts, express concerns, etc.. though).

If one wishes to just sell their shares and put this company behind them, then please sell your shares and put this company behind you.

But it seems many wish to have their cake and eat it too.

"No I won't pay taxes on my Bitcoin." "You can't regulate Bitcoin!"

"Where are the cops for scumbags like Ken? Who scam(?) and steal our Bitcoins!"

This is all I see. It is very hypocritical.

We invested in a unregulated company, in an unregulated domain, with unregulated shares that have yet to (and probably won't) see any kind of profit and is run by someone who is very very very inexperienced in communication.

Everyone was happy that it was unregulated back when they expected profit in January, but now.. not so much.

I am truly sorry so many of you guys put so much of your money into this. But don't be a hypocrite about it. You know what this was when you bought in, and if you say otherwise then you were negligent and really only have yourself to blame.

Say what you want about the trolls but at least they don't flip flop on every up and down.

It's exhausting to see the kind of delusion some of you guys are working with. One person even accused Ken of actually stealing his coins. How do you do these mental cartwheels to arrive at this point in the first place?

EDIT: On the otherhand, if you have purchased hardware. Then you rightfully deserve a refund as soon as possible.
126  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: May 27, 2014, 05:26:33 PM
I'm not exactly sure what I want to hear. Just want to know if there will be an update.

  • High Div and/or Good Plan laid out for Q3/Q4 = Higher $/share. That might not be good for me.
  • Low Div and/or Bad/No Plan laid out for Q3/Q4 = Lower $/share. That might not be good for me.

Just remember FC saying that we should expect a report on May 27th, I think it is May 28th where he is now.
127  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: May 27, 2014, 05:10:41 PM
70 more messages, the page of topic will reach 1000.
Is this topic the most popular in bitcointalk?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.0

6000+ Pages

Anyways.. So should we expect FC's update today, tomorrow, or has it been postponed? Anyone in the loop?
128  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] on: May 21, 2014, 02:02:59 AM
Idk how the other shareholders feel but I'm cool with Ken keeping a portion of the divs seeing the btc price poped a lottle to shore some things up upon release of a simple finacial statement.

Things I would choose over Divs tomorrow.

  • A financial statement.
  • A legitimate reason why the website is on the back burner.
  • A serious plan for the foreseeable future.
  • A list of people who are working for the company along with some type of verification for what they actually do.
  • Legitimate information on a chip. If we are keeping People's Asic on board then I assume this is the endgame.
  • # of boards we have sold. How much money we are in debt and what is our plan out of it.

I understand Divs are important. But I think everything I listed above is more important (at least to me).
129  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 21, 2014, 01:47:05 AM
It must be time, all the usual trolls out on the prowl. TTM & CCMFs.




I know this is repost, I don't care either.

That's a cool ass image.
130  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] on: May 20, 2014, 10:14:07 PM
hello

i have send email, when will it be verified?

It seems this is done manually. Ken might do it later tonight, tomorrow morning or even wait till the end of the deadline to do the rest of them.
131  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] on: May 20, 2014, 09:35:19 PM
Received my shares extremely promptly! Thanks Ken!

Great, The next transfer will be the final one after the 21st as most sharehold have transferred their shares.

Edit:  The final transfer will include the shareholders that did not transfer their shares to AMC-TENDER and bitfunder transferred them to the issuer.  

The shareholders who did not transfer their shares to AMC-TENDER should make sure that their CT email address is the same one that they used on
bitfunder as that will be the email address
we transfer the shares to on CT.

hi

that bolded sentenced, i kept asking you during bitfunder closure if the share holder list will contain bitfunder user email along with btc address and share number.

but you always tell me, only bitcoin address and share numbers, and no email information with it.

now those who didnt transfer, i assumed they will need verify using btc address sign thing.
but woooh, you seem to know there email address, HOW?

please explain

Did you tender your shares to AMC-TENDER? Then he has your email address. This should also be the email address you email him with.

you didnt understand.

he only has bitfunder user name, time date, share, doesnt come with email address,  those who tendered.
those who didnt tender, he has only the public list,  btc address and share number.

therefore, how can he know email address for those who didnt tender months go?
did he do btc address signature thing for verify?

edit: i know about the email verification, but iam not talking about that


Unfortunately I can't help you with that. I believe about 80~85% of the shares were tendered so I have yet to meet someone who has gained access to their shares who did not also tender them. I advise you PM Ken and then PM ActM-Thread (As Ken actually listens to this account) to ask for a solution or an elaboration on how Ken handles this. I wish you the best.
132  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] on: May 20, 2014, 09:08:39 PM
Received my shares extremely promptly! Thanks Ken!

Great, The next transfer will be the final one after the 21st as most sharehold have transferred their shares.

Edit:  The final transfer will include the shareholders that did not transfer their shares to AMC-TENDER and bitfunder transferred them to the issuer. 

The shareholders who did not transfer their shares to AMC-TENDER should make sure that their CT email address is the same one that they used on
bitfunder as that will be the email address
we transfer the shares to on CT.

hi

that bolded sentenced, i kept asking you during bitfunder closure if the share holder list will contain bitfunder user email along with btc address and share number.

but you always tell me, only bitcoin address and share numbers, and no email information with it.

now those who didnt transfer, i assumed they will need verify using btc address sign thing.
but woooh, you seem to know there email address, HOW?

please explain

Did you tender your shares to AMC-TENDER? Then he has your email address. This should also be the email address you email him with.
133  Economy / Securities / Re: [Active Mining] The UNofficial Active Mining Discussion Thread [UNmoderated] on: May 20, 2014, 07:09:11 PM
I believe it's called Trollema.

lmao, that actually made me laugh. I'm in the library dammit.
134  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] on: May 20, 2014, 07:08:28 PM
@Zum can you connect these dots?

Oh Zum has connected all the dots, it's probably Zum buying up all the shares to 0.0002!

I think he's cheating then, I haven't even found the first dot yet lol.
135  Economy / Securities / Re: [Active Mining] The UNofficial Active Mining Discussion Thread [UNmoderated] on: May 20, 2014, 07:01:18 PM
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@NotLambChop I have been operating under the assumption that you were Crumbs who might be MPOE-PR which in turn would make you Mireacu P. this entire time. I hope that you don't mind if I continue with this assumption.

What an odd thing to ask.  Are you saying that if I do mind, you'd stop making idiotic assumptions? 

Not in the least. I will still make the assumption, I just won't be as out and in the open about it around you. Out of respect.

It seems you are annoyed that people assume you are someone who previously did exactly what you do, in the same manner that you do it, in the same areas that you do it, right before you appeared and started doing it (because they were banned).

I don't think it matters that much though. You have built a reputation for yourself just like your predecessors have, so we/they have little reason to base you off of those people anyways.
136  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] on: May 20, 2014, 06:58:14 PM
Hopefully Ken will unveil this very important project that has kept him very busy this week, tomorrow. I look forward to hearing about it.

The site has needed updating for several months not just this week. The 'project' is just an excuse as is when asked about 28nm he said 'there are lots of things going on'. How many times have we heard that.

You're right. Just giving them the benefit of the doubt. Before this week they had other concerns, now.. Not so much. So I would love to hear what excuse make it out and in the open this week.

I just can't possibly see what's more important than selling hardware.

From previous post we can conclude that Ken has a web design guy. So what exactly does this guy do?

We should at least figure out how many individual people work for this company so we can get a better understanding of what this company is and is not capable of in under certain timelines. I am starting to sense that this Web Guy is also the PR Guy who is also the Finance Guy who is also busy setting up racks in the DC.

So Ken. (Or ACTM-Thread since I feel like this will be ignored). Are there any specific plans to fix the website and what is this more important proposition that you are currently working on. I am assuming it's finishing tendering shares as I can't see it being anything else.

@Zum can you connect these dots?
137  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] on: May 20, 2014, 06:41:08 PM
Hopefully Ken will unveil this very important project that has kept him very busy this week, tomorrow. I look forward to hearing about it.
138  Economy / Securities / Re: [Active Mining] The UNofficial Active Mining Discussion Thread [UNmoderated] on: May 20, 2014, 06:38:53 PM
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6. I have never and will never pay that 30BTC, as I've just said, its ridiculous. I have heard MPOE and Pankkake's argument for it and I don't think it holds in any context.

There are two reasons for the 30btc fee which are much simpler than you'd imagine.

First reason is simply profit (almost all of which going to mircea himself). 30btc profit per new user is more than most companies can say.

Second is referral scheme. You and your referral get 10btc back each every time you refer someone.

Without the fee there would be nobody to perpetuate the scam.

Yes and that is just a Ponzi scheme imho. I know what happens with the 30btc, I personally don't see myself following suit with throwing money into it.

I don't need a broker, I know how to lose money and place bets without doing any research myself (a little sarcasm in there but not really lol).

@NotLambChop I have been operating under the assumption that you were Crumbs who might be MPOE-PR which in turn would make you Mireacu P. this entire time. I hope that you don't mind if I continue with this assumption.
139  Economy / Securities / Re: [Active Mining] The UNofficial Active Mining Discussion Thread [UNmoderated] on: May 20, 2014, 06:18:38 PM
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MPEx securities aren't bad

I lol'd. I take it you've invrsted in mirceas new just-dice/bitbet fund?

I will admit that you are much less likely to lose money on mpec with mircea cooking the books. It's almost impossible to lose money on a good ponzi until it collapses.

I know nothing about MPEx securities but BitBet actually looks pretty cool, especially if this found its way into the mainstream. Where anyone can make their own bet, that has a lot of room of potential. (Television Shows, Sports, E-Sports, Elections, Company performances, Crypto prices. It's pretty endless) I haven't actually used it but I've followed the bets and I think there is a lot of room for growth and profit. Though 30BTC to even get into MPEx investments, seems a little ridiculous. If BitBet appeared on Havelock, I wouldn't be against switching my dust of AcTM into dust of BitBet.

1. You should really do a few seconds of research before backing a scam.

2. Anyone can make bets on bitbet but only the management does and they decide the outcomes.

3. Management also creates a large amount of bets and determines the outcome of their own bets making them profit.

4. They also steal late bets. All bets sent to btc address after bet is resolved is considered a "donation" or profit.

5. Stealing late bets has literally accounted for about half of their entire profit last year.

6. Btw the 30btc on mpex is the fee you have to pay so mircea can keep the stocks pumped.

Even with unfair house betting and stealing all late bets their company "valued" at 5000btc earned a staggering 130btc last year (75btc from stolen bets) and this last quarter they earned an impressive 3btc.

I am unfamiliar with Numbers 1, 2, and 3. So I will definitely do research on that (as I've said before I haven't used Bitbet or invested in it, only watched it).

4. I've heard that they steal late bets as in people trying to place bet on topics that are closed for betting. Of course, they should just refund the person their money but I believe it is in ToS (Or w/e they call it on there) that they will claim any late bets as their own and you should make sure you aren't placing on a late bet. Other companies have done worse.

5. If you look at this in another light, this definitely conflicts with the point you made in number (3) Which says that they make large bets to make their own profit.

Are you saying so many people make late bets that that in and of itself is making more money than they are by actively rigging bets? Does this mean that they have very low transaction fees too then?

6. I have never and will never pay that 30BTC, as I've just said, its ridiculous. I have heard MPOE and Pankkake's argument for it and I don't think it holds in any context. But this doesn't negate other things those two have said, Mireacu (or however you write his name) will never be getting that 30 BTC from me. I have never recommended his website to anyone just like I have not recommended ActiveMining to anyone.

I haven't invested but I don't think shitting on a company that turned any sort of profit is ok. They have turned a profit on a website that seems to need little maintenance and require almost no marketing. Seems to be a pretty good business plan IMHO.

I'm only saying from my encounters with BitBet, and BitBet alone (not my encounter/s with the people behind it) it seems like a good business idea. Just like Just-Dice looks like a good gambling Idea, I think BitBet has a good idea too.
140  Economy / Securities / Re: [Active Mining] The UNofficial Active Mining Discussion Thread [UNmoderated] on: May 20, 2014, 05:59:07 PM
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MPEx securities aren't bad

I lol'd. I take it you've invrsted in mirceas new just-dice/bitbet fund?

I will admit that you are much less likely to lose money on mpec with mircea cooking the books. It's almost impossible to lose money on a good ponzi until it collapses.

I know nothing about MPEx securities but BitBet actually looks pretty cool, especially if this found its way into the mainstream. Where anyone can make their own bet, that has a lot of room of potential. (Television Shows, Sports, E-Sports, Elections, Company performances, Crypto prices. It's pretty endless) I haven't actually used it but I've followed the bets and I think there is a lot of room for growth and profit. Though 30BTC to even get into MPEx investments, seems a little ridiculous. If BitBet appeared on Havelock, I wouldn't be against switching my dust of AcTM into dust of BitBet.
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