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121  Other / New forum software / Re: Planned Features are missing from Epochtalk's GitHub repository! on: February 09, 2021, 10:29:11 AM
After a bit of snooping, it seems like the section was removed deliberately a while ago in a dedicated commit. I assume the reason is either the features were implemented or plans changed. The only definitive way of knowing why is probably asking the author of said commit.
122  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How to open Multidoge wallet without Multidoge? on: February 04, 2021, 01:13:17 AM
Before you try anything, make sure you're not doing that on the only copy of your wallet. Make a backup, preferably on a different drive. With that said...

  • Do you have Java installed on your PC? If not, that might be the reason as to why it keeps crashing. Multidoge (which was forked from Multibit Classic if I'm not mistaken) is written in Java and thus requires the appropriate runtime to be installed on the end user's PC.
  • If the wallet isn't password protected (a.k.a. not encrypted), you could try opening the wallet file in a text editor and digging around for something that looks like Dogecoin private keys or addresses. I'm not particularly experienced with the MultiBit Classic / Multidoge wallet format but if it's in a human readable format, you may be able to get the data out with a bit of rummaging around.
  • If the wallet is password protected (or when you open the wallet file in a text editor, all you see is a bunch of weird unreadable symbols), you could try setting up a virtual machine that'll emulate a different operating system (e.g. Ubuntu), install MultiDoge there, transfer your wallet file to the virtual machine and open it there. While I'd usually advise against using anything Oracle makes, VirtualBox is a pretty decent piece of free software that allows you to set up virtual machines rather easily. Just don't install it while you're connected to your company's network, either directly or via VPN, just in case.
123  Other / Meta / Re: How can I check traffic on this forum on: February 03, 2021, 10:33:48 PM
AFAIK the closest thing to publicly accessible traffic statistics is the forum's "Ad stats" page. While it's not perfect, a single ad slot's stats probably capture the traffic numbers with decent enough accuracy to get the big picture. I don't think there's a per-board equivalent for that though. As for topics, the only thing that's available is the "Topic: <topic name> (Read <number> times)" that's located right above the first post in a topic's page. Not exactly sure on how it counts the <number> part though.
124  Other / Meta / Re: Topics about Stablecoins and topics with titles alert/warning/fake this and that on: January 31, 2021, 07:19:57 PM
Moved all 5 to the appropriate boards. If you find similar threads, simply report them using the "Report to Moderator" feature. Neither the phishing warning threads, nor threads about stablecoins belong in Beginners & Help - not particularly sure as to why users keep posting them there. As OP pointed out, phishing warning threads belong in the Scam Accusations board while threads about stablecoins or any other altcoin belong in the altcoin sections.
125  Other / Meta / Re: Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ on: January 19, 2021, 08:58:20 PM
After reading this topic, I noticed that one of FAQs should be edited.

Q: Why do I get the "The last posting from your IP was less than 360 seconds ago." error when I haven't posted today?
A: Logging in, sending PMs and reporting posts to a moderator will also be counted as posting and extend this limit back to 360 seconds. ...................

In addition to Logging in, sending PMs and reporting posts, searching is also counted as posting.

Reference:

- Searching is now subject to the same spam protection limits as posting. So newbies have to wait 6 minutes between searches and users with more posts have to wait progressively less time.
Not sure how I missed that one. Adjusted the answer, thanks.
126  Other / Meta / Re: How about new sub section 'Investment discussion' on: January 07, 2021, 04:22:40 PM
-snip-
Can we use this as an argument to get rid of the Investor-based games board?

Compare the traffic. Consider the intent of the board.

Sorted by thread creation dates in forum time (UTC), here is the most recent thread: January 03, 2021, 10:51:28 PM   

And here is the tenth thread: December 13, 2020, 12:26:13 PM
And the last thread of the first page: June 27, 2020, 09:36:12 AM

Is that seriously going to be a moderation problem for the root Gambling board? In comparison, its last thread of the first page was posted November 26, 2020, 07:20:50 AM, but the general traffic of Gambling is so high that you won't find the thread until you're 5 pages deep in the regular searches. Even the second-most recent thread as of this post got pushed to the second page of Gambling: January 05, 2021, 03:03:08 PM
That's something you're going to have to ask theymos. IIRC any boards that were archived were usually related to the subject itself becoming (essentially) irrelevant (e.g. the Multibit board after Multibit Classic and Multibit HD were deprecated). This sort of ties into the high bar for creation of new boards - once it's there, it'll probably remain there for a very long time.
127  Other / Meta / Re: How about new sub section 'Investment discussion' on: January 07, 2021, 04:08:13 AM
Relevant (with additional edits):

As with all sub-forum requests, I'm gonna ask a question - how many topics about Satoshi investment decisions that'd fit the definition of the new board are currently on the first 3 or so pages of any board? Or on several boards combined? If there aren't enough topics (at least 20 on the frontpage and around 10 on later pages in my experience) to fill a board (meaning such topics do not dominate the discussion sphere of an existing board), what's the point of making a new section that'll be dead on arrival.

Unless a subset of possible board topics is dominating the front page (+50% of topics on the front page belong to said subset), it's highly unlikely that it'll have a sub-section created for it. Not much point in creating a board that will be dead on arrival.

In the overwhelming majority of cases, boards are created not to encourage discussion of a subject but to stop a certain subject from dominating a board meant for a larger array of topics.
128  Other / Meta / Re: Is Bitcoin LN considered an altcoin on Bitcointalk? on: December 29, 2020, 12:26:59 PM
Just selling altcoins for BTC, fiat or any other coin doesn't belong in Currency Exchange. The quoted rule is referring to threads that offer exchanges between fiat and BTC in addition to other exchanges (e.g. BTC to alts, alts to fiat, etc.).

I maybe be a bit dense today, but I don't understand what you are trying to say (sorry). If the currency exchange board is not meant for just exchanging coin A for coin B (being A or B Bitcoin), what is it for?
The Currency Exchange board is meant for selling and buying BTC for fiat currency. If within your Currency Exchange thread you offer to sell or buy alts for BTC / fiat / other alts in addition to offering to buy and / or sell BTC for fiat, that's allowed 1. However, if you're only offering to buy / and or sell alts for BTC / fiat / other alts, that thread belongs in Marketplace (Altcoins).

1 If a user is trying to circumvent the restrictions by mostly making a thread about exchanging alts while only adding a token mention of trades between BTC and fiat, a moderator may opt to move the thread to Marketplace (Altcoins).
129  Other / Meta / Re: Is Bitcoin LN considered an altcoin on Bitcointalk? on: December 29, 2020, 12:07:47 PM
Just selling altcoins for BTC, fiat or any other coin doesn't belong in Currency Exchange. The quoted rule is referring to threads that offer exchanges between fiat and BTC in addition to other exchanges (e.g. BTC to alts, alts to fiat, etc.).
130  Other / Meta / Re: [BPIP] Forum-based Playing / Trading Cards on: December 22, 2020, 09:53:31 PM
I actually did start out using a JS-based method of doing this, we moved to a server-side implementation in order to offer additional security for the stats which are overlaid on top of the image.. to minimize any client side manipulations. This overlay may be part of the issue with the fonts as well, as the site would use a different font than what I have on the design, based on the theme selection.
Once the card is turned into an image, there's pretty much no way to stop people from doctoring it. The only way to prove it's legitimate is the aforementioned idea of a QR code that references an authoritative source (e.g. a page on BPIP), which lists the exact stats of that specific version of a card. So, from a security perspective, there's not much to win from doing it serverside.

Look, I’m not a “professional” designer by trade. Never said I was. Overall, I think they came out pretty good. I don’t really agree with the idea that there is supposed to be a cookie-cutter way to do art… meaning, I apparently haven’t used one of your approved and/or learned fonts, background styles, or color palettes.
Yes, art is indeed very subjective hence why I've mentioned that it's only my opinion. However, in contemporary design there are some widely accepted general practices that lead to a better product / design (e.g. adequate spacing between a long personal text and the borders of a box said personal text is in). Those are also opinions, but they're a bit more widely held than just by me.

I do realize most people are not going to like every design but keep in mind I designed these in my personal time, and there was never intention on making a profit. Please feel free to recommend someone you know that will fit your perception of someone with “substantial experience in graphic design” who will be willing to design the cards for free. I can overlay the text/stats wherever they want them on the design. Smiley
My opinion was intended as just that - a critique from a single subjective point of view. You're free to take it or, if you find it irrelevant / unreasonable, leave it. If there's anything that should be taken away from my advice, it's that I (heavy emphasis on I) think that you should lean into the design language of the last 2 cards. That and if you know someone who does graphic design as a job (or even as a side gig), let them have a quick look at whatever you come up as a v0.9 of those designs and ask them for their most brutal criticism.
131  Other / Meta / Re: [BPIP] Forum-based Playing / Trading Cards on: December 22, 2020, 01:14:22 AM
You should consider Lambda for your card generation on demand.  The more services you put on a EC2, the slower each gets and you need to needlessly upgrade to a bigger box.  Plus if you use graphics based Lambda functions, you'll reduce those costs further.

I only keep IIS on EC2 and run everything else on specialized services like DynamoDB for the bitcoin blockchain.

Source:  Been studying to be an AWS architect for a year now.
For anything larger, heavily relying on cloud vendor specific services is a very bad idea if you ever intend for the possibility of migrating away from AWS (unless you enjoy headaches of rewriting code that used to run completely fine on a vendor's proprietary offering). Also, I really do hope that by "on-demand" you mean "very rarely" since at-scale (as in if it's being hit by traffic constantly), serverless tends to be pretty expensive compared to just running a web server. And even for that task, you could just create a new DB table and have a background script poll it periodically and generate the images that way (outside the request-response cycle). If it were up to me, I'd personally offload generating the card visuals to the clientside (via JS or something that compiles to it), while only recording the data serverside.

TBH, unless you manage to stay within free tier quotas, enjoy burning money (e.g. large companies / websites where the additional cost is just a drop in the bucket) or really like overcomplicated pricing schemes, I don't really see the reason of using any of the major cloud providers for running what is effectively a very overpriced VPS. There's plenty of smaller yet still large cloud providers (e.g. DigitalOcean) that can give you a box that performs just as well at a fraction of the price.



As for the cards themselves, I like the concept but (no offense) the designs could really use some work (from someone with substantial experience in graphic design preferably). The color palette, the backgrounds, spacing between elements and font choices are very rough. A lot of the designs (again, IMO) scream 90s in the worst way possible. While certain things are definitely dependent on taste (e.g. color palette and use of gradients), certain things are just bad design (e.g. layering text on top of other text in the background).

If I had to pick, the two cards at the bottom are probably best looking ones since the dark one leverages that old-school late-night neon feel while the golden one's tackiness fits because, well, it's golden and that's the intended style (the sharp contrast between the background and letters also makes it very vibrant and easily readable while also adhering to the intended tackiness of the 'gold version of thing X' design language).
132  Other / Meta / Re: Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ on: December 18, 2020, 03:48:21 PM
Hi mprep.

Can we have a small update in the OP about SEO ?
Right now I'm facing a massive attack from "search engine optimizers" (well OK, I've 4 cases in a month, but for me it's a lot Smiley) and without the vigilance of another member I wouldn't have seen them because it's very vicious and dishonest.

I have two examples of these "attacks" :
A newbie comes to ask a legitimate question in a topic and a few days later, he comes to edit and add a link to his site (which is not related to cryptos or the topic).
And another newbie quotes a message containing a link and changes the destination of the link to put his site. In this post, Yogg's link has been changed.

Maybe we should add "No SEO links" (or something like that) in rule 1, 4, 5 or 6.

I know that SEO is not new and we won't be able to eradicate it, but at least if it's within the rules, it would encourage members to report this kind of thing.
The wide majority of SEO spam already falls under rule 1. Adding additional cases that are relevant right now (but will change / disappear in the future) would only hurt the readability of the rules.
133  Other / Meta / Re: @mods:50 reports of shill posts in the same thread marked bad. What went wrong? on: December 13, 2020, 11:44:28 PM
Just cause a report was marked as a duplicate doesn't mean that its predecessor (the user's first unhandled report on a post) will be immediately investigated / acted upon.
Aren't duplicate posts marked as bad automatically?
Every time I reported a post for the second time, the first report was marked as bad in a few minutes, while the second report took a much longer time (sometimes 1-2 days) to be handled.
Since this has happened to me every time I reported a post twice, it made me think that it is done automatically.

The image below shows my last bad report.


As shown in the image, I reported a post for the second time 6 seconds after my first report.
The first one was marked as bad once I reported the post for the second time.
AFAIK they aren't, otherwise there probably wouldn't (or at least shouldn't) be a way to accidentally make duplicate reports (e.g. by warning users before they submit a second report). You probably lucked out and reported a post while a moderator was actively checking the report queue.
134  Other / Meta / Re: @mods:50 reports of shill posts in the same thread marked bad. What went wrong? on: December 13, 2020, 11:27:13 PM
It does, just like any report marked as bad.

They shouldn't be, imho.
Judging from the  posting history of these members, it is obvious that these are shilling accounts used for thread bumping. I don't know if there's enough evidence to nuke a complete thread, but at least these reported posts should be deleted.

Only the duplicate reports are marked as bad. Their "predecessors" (for each duplicate, the user's first unhandled report on said post) are handled as any other report.
135  Other / Meta / Re: @mods:50 reports of shill posts in the same thread marked bad. What went wrong? on: December 13, 2020, 11:17:41 PM
Duplicate reports. You've reported a bunch of posts twice (once some time in the past and another time earlier today). Someone will sooner or later get to the unhandled reports though.
Some might have been marked due duplicate reports, but 50 and all from the same thread? And up until today I had 19 marked as bad, from more than 5000 reported posts (not that I care about accuracy, it's just that this is not the first time I am reporting).

What about all those posts that I shared as an example?  They are marked as a bad report, and are still there even though they are obvious spam. And if they are marked as bad that means someone checked them I guess.

Also, those marked as bad are posts that were written in the last few days, so it's not like I reported them months ago and then reported them again today.

I didn't count how many but there were quite a few. Just cause a report was marked as a duplicate doesn't mean that its predecessor (the user's first unhandled report on a post) will be immediately investigated / acted upon. As I've said:

Someone will sooner or later get to the unhandled reports though.
136  Other / Meta / Re: @mods:50 reports of shill posts in the same thread marked bad. What went wrong? on: December 13, 2020, 10:54:53 PM
Duplicate reports.
Hmm.  Does that actually count against your reporting accuracy?  I'm pretty sure I've bumblefooted my way through threads like OP linked to, reporting nonstop, and it can get confusing.  Maybe there should be a box to check off "nuke thread please" when you're reporting stuff to the mods.  It'd be one hell of a time saver.
It does, just like any report marked as bad. As for preventing duplicate reports, removing the "Report to Moderator" link on any post a user has already reported would probably be the best solution. Either that or replacing it with something like "Edit report" though that would require even more coding work than just hiding the link. Either way, that's something that should be addressed to theymos or posted as a feature suggestion in the "New forum software" board.
137  Other / Meta / Re: @mods:50 reports of shill posts in the same thread marked bad. What went wrong? on: December 13, 2020, 10:46:17 PM
Duplicate reports. You've reported a bunch of posts twice (once some time in the past and another time earlier today). Someone will sooner or later get to the unhandled reports though.
138  Other / Meta / Re: Plagiarism (Re: Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules) on: December 10, 2020, 12:38:34 PM
<...>

Whereupon I request a review of Rule 33:  Either the word “plagiarism” should be removed, or it needs to be clarified that simply tossing in a link somewhere does not suffice to avoid plagiarism; and some distinction should be made between plagiarism, and no-value unattributed copying.

I do not want to suggest any rigid format for citations and attributions of authorship in all cases.  I don’t think that such a thing should be made a rule, as such.  However, to show how one should act in the spirit of the rules, I have created a new topic with a copied-pasted OP, as my example of optimal attribution of authorship in some types of circumstances.

<...>
As with automated translations, in the end the rules are enforced by moderators. Me trying to zero in on what is and isn't plagiarism more than I already have would only reflect my own approach towards the enforcement of said rule. As theymos mentioned numerous times, there are reasons as to why there are no "official, hard rules (aside from the few legally-required ones)" - it's up to individual moderators to decide whether acting on amperceived violation of forum policy is the "right" thing to do. As such, I don't think there's a need to expand or adjust rule 33, at least not at this point in time.

139  Other / Meta / Re: Automated translations (Re: Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules) on: December 09, 2020, 04:25:58 PM
Indeed he did. However, if a user clearly provided a source he got the info from, it's a bit difficult to argue he's trying to pass the content off as his own.

If you say "I think that <copy pasta follows>" what other intent is there? I'm not arguing for a permaban here but I think (and this is indeed my own personal thought LOL) that we are getting bogged down in technicalities too much. Yes, technically a source was provided. But someone reading text like that would reasonably assume that it's indeed the person's own thought. IMO moderators can and should issue a warning / edit the post / delete the post / tempban the user / use other non-fatal tools available to them in cases like that, depending on the severity.

Reminds me of some trolling sockpuppets that are getting a free pass because technically we can't prove they're sockpuppets, ban evaders, etc with some bulletproof blockchain evidence... so they go on even though there is zero value in allowing them to continue.
I've expressed my own personal opinion on the matter - other moderators can (and some probably will) disagree with me and crack down on it much harder than I would. Do note that I'm not arguing for these posts being completely-100%-a-okay, more so saying that unlike regular plain plagiarism (taking content and posting it as your own without a source) such actions won't get you a permanent ban for a single post. Depending on the context (e.g. it's a single post / topic or it's a recurring pattern within a user's post history) and content, the post itself may be considered as low value but that's going to have to be decided on a case by case basis. Same with what to do with such a post / topic (delete, edit, lock, leave it be, etc.) and the one who posted it.



EDIT: In regards to automated translations from non-English to English, I've PMed theymos about it, specifically with the following questions:

  • What is the exact policy on automated translations (both English -> local, as well as local -> English)?
  • When is it [read: automated translations] prohibited?
  • When is it allowed (e.g. possible scenarios or situations)?
  • When is it arguable and up to the moderator's discretion?

Here's what he had to say (publishing this with his permission, of course):

One of the main points of there not being official, hard rules (aside from the few legally-required ones) is to prevent rule-lawyering. If something is wrong, mods should not do it, regardless of any perceived rules, and especially if someone is trying to wield the "rules" as a weapon in order to attack someone who they dislike.

The main problems with autotranslation are:
 - Translating other people's stuff is often used as a bulk source of posts, which is a sign of a bad poster, and it results in a big pile of useless garbage.
 - Local users find it annoying to have their section filled with posts that are much more difficult to understand. It's jarring to keep running into posts that can't be read smoothly.

However, some local mods do allow machine translation if the outcome is good/useful, especially when the above issues are avoided. For example, it's often been allowed to autotranslate a question that you post as a new topic in order to get the local community's take on something. This case is less of a problem because the bad grammar is contained, and because it's a case of someone engaging in honest discussion. Local mods set their policies on autotranslation, and they may choose to ban it entirely or allow it more freely.

In the English sections, the policy should generally be to ignore whether or not it's autotranslated, and evaluate the post on its merit. Bad grammar is obviously not disallowed, but if it's so bad (due to autotranslation or otherwise) that the post is basically incomprehensible, then it's a useless post and should be deleted. If it's translated from elsewhere, then you should generally act the same as if the source was originally in English, asking questions like:
 - Is the quote useful/on-topic in the post's context (especially after being mangled a bit through translation)?
 - Is the user just finding stuff to copy in order to bulk up his posts?
 - Is the user passing this off as his own when it's actually not?

Taking his response into account as well as the concerns I raised in my reply to nullius, I think I'm going to leave the rules as they currently are. Rule 1 (and rule 23) cover the situation well enough. I might slightly revise rule 27 in the future but I don't think it's a pressing concern and in the majority of cases (e.g. article or ANN topic spam) the rule applies as it is written. A lot of the, let's say, "creative" interpretations of the rules (what theymos refers to as "rule-lawyering") are probably gonna be invalidated by rule 23, unless they are following the spirit of the rule / policy.
140  Other / Meta / Re: Automated translations (Re: Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules) on: December 09, 2020, 10:06:07 AM
If he provided a source, AFAIK it isn't plagiarism. As I've mentioned in my reply to nullius, it might be deemed low value (specifically low value automated translation spam; that is if it was an automated translation of non-english content).

Added an edit / clarification to my reply to nullius as well.
1 of the users shared these quotes.

-quote snip-
Indeed he did. However, if a user clearly provided a source he got the info from, it's a bit difficult to argue he's trying to pass the content off as his own.
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