Are you trying to sell me something?  I am not theymos.  Theymos can make his own decisions about what to do, what not to do and how he wants to go about conducting himself in life or in this forum.


I am fine with the forum.  Is something broken?  You seem to be asserting that something is broken and in need of my actions to assist in fixing that something?  You have rights to exercise your judgement and to express your opinions, don't you?

You seem to be presuming quite a bit if you believe that fear is motivating me regarding whatever actions or inactions that I choose.



I have some time that I already dedicate to various "interpersonal squabbles" in the forum.  Whether I dive into more or not could be a product of time, timing or interest, and I tend NOT to be too persuaded by others suggesting what I should do or how I should act, even if I might account for those kinds of suggestions from time to time, depending on the topic and the circumstances.


That seems to be on you to be wanting to read a bit much into my so far statements on this topic, or whatever other information you are using to arrive at your conclusion(s).


Hey any of us can come to our various conclusions in life based on accurate or inaccurate information and/or revise our choices.  I believe that I retain that discretion, and I doubt that I have any major blinders in that regard, but there is only so much time in the day to go down certain rabbit holes, even if such rabbit holes are pointed out to me.


Actually, that is possible too.. depending on the circumstances.  Certainly, the interwebs bring different dynamics than the real world, even though the interwebs have become a current part of our real world in several ways.. and "my how times have changed?" for both good and bad... seemingly.

One of the "charming personality traits" of Arriemoller is that he likes to hold onto dumb shit for too much and for too long.  That is why he is so "appreciated"* around these here parts....  

*  #nohomo

What is ETH & LTC engines?

I was not sure if I should "edit" my above post or write a new post, yet the passage of three days between this post and the above post seems to be sufficient and adequate justification for a new post, even though related.

Within the past couple of hours, I noticed that BPIP seems to be working again, so in that regard, I take back any and all of any of my bad thoughts that I may have been having regarding VOD, whether justified or not and whether direct or indirect or any negative implication that I may have implied or inferred with my above "taking marbles home" analogy in the above post.

In other words, long live BPIP!!!!!   Thanks VOD for getting it going again!!!!


Edit:  Based on ibminer's below post, I will leave my earlier text (as I had written it), but just point out, here, for clarity, that I have added that new thread to my watch list, and I recognize that ibminer and suchmoon have jointly taken over responsibility and ownership of the BPIP site.   Thanks for that, and thanks for redirecting me to the new thread.

Maybe I should rephrase what I said?  You conclude that I am "childish," "wanking" and "rambling" based on my above post, and perhaps based on some of my other posting history including what I have so far decided to do regarding my trust list?

I might have mischaracterized what Lauda had said, and I was merely attempting to assert that I generally consider  human nature as good, but I also understand that on the interwebs, we do not always know whether the person on the other end might be a cat.  So there can be issues with dealing with interweb personas in terms of if they are who they claim to be. 

Hey, maybe the use of "cat" is not really a great analogy here, especially since Lauda does tend to self-refer in terms of catology (if that is a word), but hopefully you can still understand what I am attempting to assert in this regard.

I tend to view human nature as generally good, even if self-interested, and surely everyone has their circumstances to deal with; however, the interwebs and even crypto (I hate that word) has a tendency to attract scammers and scum, and swindlers and bots.  These can create battles and emotions, too, and sometimes posters get emotional, say too much and/or things might NOT come across too well in the form of postings and text.  So, yeah, we cannot always have enough information regarding if we are dealing with someone who is genuinely attempting to contribute in a positive way or if that person is more trouble than they are worth in terms of scamming and scumminess.  In that regard, any of us can consider and reconsider how much to engage in these kinds of battles or whether we spend more time participating in crypto threads (again, I hate that "crypto" word, and likely that is probably why I spend most of my time in bitcoin threads rather than "crypto" threads)....

Isn't there an expression?  "came to bitcoin for [blank 1] and stayed for [blank 2]"?  Surely, I don't want my "blank 2" to end up being "interpersonal battles."  From my perspective, that would decrease whatever quality of life I happen to currently have..... hahahahahahhaha  Now, I am going to get back to telling nocoiners, bitcoin naysayers, and alt coin "pumpeners" to fuck off... that's my current preferred specialty.  Oh, I do have one other quasi-non-crypto (did I say that I hate that word?) post that I would like to get to first, but that's another story.. that may or may not play out in my determination of what to do next.... because I have another non-forum research project that I am multi-taskingly working on too... so there is that... plus I have a tiny bit of real world physical labor that I have to carry out (procrastinating a bit), so there is that, too.

Hey Loyce:  In about the past week and a half, I saw that you were migrating the way that your data is loaded, and I thought that there was something incomplete regarding the loading of the trust lists, because on several occasions during the past week and a half or so, I had attempted to load the one from 12/21 (#49), and it was not loading completely.  It would get caught up part of the way through loading and then just get stuck.

I am still having the issue regarding loading 12/21 page, and even 12/14 (#48), but as I was typing this, I did just get 12/28 (#50) to load and was able to see the data on that page and to click on links therein, but it took a while to load onto my browser, and then seemed to have gotten stuck and then finally seemed to have loaded completely.  

Is the migration of this data still "in process/progress" or is there something that I might need to do on my end in order to improve my ability to load that data onto my browser?   Thanks a lot for your providing this information, and I am not trying to cause any more burdens on you, so I am surely not in any rush for an answer if you are still working out the matter on your end.

Edit: Within a few minutes after I posted the above message, it appears that 12/21 loaded for me, and I was able to click on the links - so it took a bit more than 5 minutes to load on my browser, but it did load.  

As I type, I cannot determine if the 12/14 is still loading on my page, but it appears to have a similar message on my end as my 12/21 page did right before it ended up showing up, so it could be still loading onto my page?

Edit 2: So, now the 12/14 page has loaded on my end also, and that took about 10 minutes to load on my end (maybe slightly longer than 10 minutes - by the way those pages used to load for me in about 30 seconds or less, just for a comparative reference), so all seems to be well on my end, just the pages are loading a bit slower than they used to, but I don't really have any issue with that.  I figure I will just leave the tab open until they load, if that continues to be the way that the pages load into the future.  Thanks again for this information, Loyce!!!!!

I don't like to think of the world or human nature like that, but maybe it is just me?

I do accept that we need all kinds of perspectives, too, so I can appreciate someone who is more skeptical than me regarding the various negative aspects of human nature, too.

I will agree that it is kind of ironic how many of us do have a tendency to gravitate towards nice round numbers including yours truly....

There is another aspect about having goals that is nice, too, even if they might not be achieve, it is good to have targets, and frequently we can even surprise ourselves regarding how a previously seemingly "unachievable" target comes within reach.

Frequent posters here repeat ourselves, but I would like to repeatedly admit that have a bit of an abstract goal to NOT allow my BTC stash to go below a certain admittedly round number, but in the end, similar to you, it remains a kind of random goal that I would be more than willing to violate under certain currently unknown opportunistic circumstances.   

You better be loaded up by now.  You've had more than 5 years to accomplish such loading up.

Remember what Shroomskit used to say?

You want the BTC price to go down in order that all of us have to suffer in order that you can buy another .01BTC...?

hahahahahahaha

Overall, you seem quite bearish on upside potentiality of bitcoin.  It is like you don't even understand the asset that we continuously discuss in this thread.

Sure, I am NOT a person who banks on  $50k having to happen in 2020, 2021 or even any time before 2028, but still I recognize and appreciate the upside potential which could end up delivering us a $500k bitcoin in 1-2 years.  Of course, this might not happen also, but the mere fact that bitcoin already has a lot of value in it does NOT take away from the fact that it continues to have considerable upside potential, including that we only have less than 1% of world adoption, and financial institutions continue to be quite skeptical of bitcoin, even while BTC investment vehicles are increasingly coming available to them.

Yeah, right you believe that gold has some kind of significant ability to absorb distressed value merely because it has financial vehicles already vastly in place and developed, but in the end, you really believe that such grandpa coin (referring to gold) is really going to appreciate in value beyond perhaps a 2x or a 3x in the coming years, even in the best of scenarios?  A more likely gravitation of value into gold would result in less than a 2x appreciation of value, and surely the top of bitcoin is neither $50k in one to two years, but instead also has some decent probabilities of being front run in terms of the timing of the likely upcoming BTC price appreciation.

And, fuck also the speculation that alts have to come with.  Yeah, there might be some of the alts coming with on such BTC price surging trip, but such altcoin season is not in any way any kind of condition precedent, even if they have more pumpamentals (scammer richard heart term) due to their having way less liquidity.

I could give two shits in terms of my own investment whether BTC stays stagnant in the less than $20k range in the coming years or takes 8 years to pump to new ATHs, but my own financial and psychological preparation for worser case scenarios should not be considered to take away from those kinds of more bearish scenarios for bitcoin seem to be quite unlikely to actually take place, and we have decent odds of going to $20k plus before the end of 2021.. and the odds are decent too that we could also end up in a supra $150k territory in the same before the end of 2021 timeframe.

Hopefully, peeps like you, STT are not holding back in their BTC investment based on lack of acceptance of the decent likelihood of more bullish BTC scenarios that could equally end up knocking us off our feet in similar ways as the seemingly 2017 over performance of BTC.  I agree with your assertion that the degree of the bubbles are likely to become less and less and less in bitcoin with the passage of time but even that is not a condition precedent and even that would not negate going to $250k (because $250k is only about a 63x price bubble, which would still have been less than our approximate 78x 2017 price bubble).



Nice articles V8....


Not sure if you are playing the glass-half-full card that STT seems to be playing with seeming conviction, or if you genuinely are such a pessimistic poop.   

hahahahaha


You are pathetic..... 

#nohomo

 

First of all:  who gives any ratt's asses about alts, whether ADA or otherwise? you are gambling and may as well just dump that shit and put the current value of that crap into BTC.

Second:  My lame math suggests that at current BTC prices, as I type ($7,390-ish), you would need about a 6.76589986X increase in BTC prices to reach $50k, which is slightly more than 5x... 5x is only going to put you at $36,950, which should be a good return, but may not be enough for you to reach your threshold "richie" status.

You're welcome.  

Of course, any guy (or gal) is going to need to measure up his/her various resources that are available for when shit hits the fan (or may hit the fan), and yeah, NOT being overinvested many times (maybe most) will mean that emergency funds are not dipped into because they are redundant... they have levels of duplication that might show that circumstances are worse and worse the more emergency funds that are dipped into, and who the fuck wants to be going through his garage trying to figure out what to sell in order to be able to NOT have to sell the nice wheels that are not owned outright.  Honey, maybe we should downsize a bit or take in a lodger?  Fuck downsizing, if the motive is because you have failed to adequately prepare for your situation.  

I am not against taking in a lodger, but sometimes the motive is out of desperation rather than having enough actual space for a lodger who ends up sharing the kitchen, and also building or living in a situation in which you purposefully have a lodger and space available is different from having to force to put a lodger into an already cramped two bedroom apartment or some other less spacious situation that is not of your own choosing... sure some people can rationalize that they like having couch surfers, but that seems like something that would be more of your youth rather than when you get older, or doing it out of desperation, like I mentioned.

Of course, you can scale the amounts and tweak the circumstances.  I was just taking from some modified and a bit lower version similar to what LFC had mentioned earlier, and trying to make it somewhat relatable... of course, you could divide those numbers by 10 or even devise a scenario that is more realistic for your particular circumstances. 

There are going to be scenarios in which any person could engage in conduct that rises to the level of overinvesting.  Sure, there are some folks who might have their parents as their backup piggy bank, but still there might even be scenarios in which those persons might end up over-tapping their parents, too.. a card that such persons might not want to play, but then ends up having to attempt to tap again, after already having had tapped and their "overinvesting" gets them into such a pickle.. because the BTC price goes lower and longer than anticipated.

Let's say for example, mindrust goes "all in", but then instead of being a 4 year fractal, bitcoin ends up playing out into a 8 year fractal.  Sure, that might be a long shot, but that kind of situation could really bust someone to have to be able to scramble for 4 years longer than anticipated, and maybe some other shit happens and earning power gets screwed up, too.... Whatever, there are fucked up things that happen in this world, and sometimes what any person does on the margin can make a difference, whether it is pride or whatever, it is very fucking difficult to recover from a BIG loss.. much more difficult than it is to maintain a system that preserves wealth.  I see a lot of poor fucks who are my age (let's just say 40s, 50s, 60s) who did things slightly different than me throughout life, took some BIGGER risks than me, here and there... lived  a good life, but are fucking desperate in their older times, and I am NOT trying to act all self-righteous about the matter, but there is only so much that I am willing to do to help them out while they are struggling with their bills when they should be able to live it up, if they had been a bit more conservative, living within their means and not gambling so much with their finances.

Could be that he believes.  More likely that he is either entertained or just entertained by stirring shit.


If it is largely off topic, then meaning that he is posting about PMs rather than about bitcoin, then what are the motives?  Yes, BTC is taking market share from Pms... so i suppose there is that, as a motive.



I was only paid during the couple of years that I was in a signature campaign.... but with that I had figured that I could just post as I usually do, and just get paid.  After a while, it became too burdensome for me to want to continue being part of any campaign... also, it started to seem like petty pay compared with the bullshit of waiting to get paid and then constantly changing terms, which made it seem almost like a regular job to ensure collection.



Variations of the topic have come up through the years.  Ultimately, I write as many words as I determine necessary to make whatever point that I am striving to make.



Fair enough.


Yes, I agree.  A little bit of a dick move, and maybe a bit distracted, but I suppose somewhat relevant when there is an ability to determine that a person (such as yours truly) spends a quite a bit of time participating in the forum... not just me, but other members, too.

I surely spend the vast majority of my forum time participating in bitcoin related topics.  There are others who spend a lot of time engaged in forum politics (I tend not to) or in dabbling in a variety of shitcoins (I tend not to do that either).  By the way, much of the time, I try to spend on bitcoin, so I don't dabble as much, either, when the topic of the thread deviates into too many areas of off-topicness, except once in a while it is tempting to jump in here and there...... but surely there are some topics that I am not going to really touch, except maybe to make fun of them....  


Hahahhaha, JSRAW....

No need to wait no more... 

Roach does not want to learn.

He is not here to learn.

He is here to teach us about topics that are largely irrelevant to this thread and/or wrong.

Hopefully, he is getting paid for his efforts, and hopefully, he does not believe the nonsense that he stubbornly and repeatedly repeats here for his troll/shilling thrills.

Would not put it past him, and an assertion that Bcash SV is the real bitcoin. 

Accordingly, Wright may end up behind bars sooner than he would have wished.

How to win friends and influence people by Arriemoller... read above.     

Elwar did something very similar in about mid-2016 if I recall correctly, which involved using the proceeds from his house to buy a decent stash of extra BTC, exponentially increasing his BTC stash at that time... when BTC prices were in the mid-$600s, if i recall correctly, and soon thereafter bitfinex crashed, and many people were calling him stupid for several months; however, by the time we got into early 2017, BTC prices never returned to those $600-ish prices, and his gamble paid off quite handsomely, as we know how the remainder of 2017 ended up playing out.. even with all of the ongoing proclamations of BTC's imminent death through that time.