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December 28, 2019, 05:20:35 PM

Here you go WO gang. Fillippone is being generous and fast depleting his merits stash:

[Merits Giveaway]2019 in review. A big thanks to many forum users

Of course also appreciated merits donations to the thread to be redistributed to the posters!


Almost 200 merits later still getting entries on this thread... sadly not many incoming merits (they might have spent all of them in the twin post by Hhampuz thread).
Running low on merits, it has been a while!
Come on WO gang! Show love to the Italian Stallion and give example to the other forum  members!
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December 28, 2019, 05:34:15 PM

The best signal for Bitcoin

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Option 3 is gaining the upper hand.

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December 28, 2019, 05:36:58 PM
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mindrust, don't invest more than you're ready to lose.

Don't want to sound like a bear or a party poop as someone would say - I'm far from both positions as should be clear to anyone following this thread - but hard times do happen, it's best to be "pee pared" as the same someone would put it ;-)

TL;DR don't overdo it. DCA with the occasional BTFD spree is fine.
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December 28, 2019, 05:40:37 PM
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Along the lines of walls of text and over-investing...

 I have attempted to find Bitcoin addresses containing 10 letter words (after the initial 1) without regard for case (which makes it much easier) using a list of 22,399 words and the full processing capacity of my computer for 24 hours.  You'll be happy(er) to know, JJG, that I was able to find only one match from that entire list of words:

Pub Addr: 1ExeRcYCLeSxaZkCh7togWcSgcofRYVDLZ
Priv (WIF): L4o3NZYoSf6GVmLaxcaqtmunqiNBs77PNyANmpYtcL6r6dMtcCXb
Priv (HEX): 0xE202278FF792CE920126E8D3A2EE1483AB9FA00807B10B71EAACDAD1DD4D36E4

 and I believe that was mostly due to good luck.

 If I were to try for an exact case-sensitive match of 1ExercycLes (capital L because Bitcoin addresses can't use miniscule L capital I or Capital O) with random characters after it, I would need 2.4 years for a 50% chance of success.  your funds are SAFU.

 On a sad note, I will likely never find a 1JayJuanGee or a 1micgoossens address and a 1LastoftheV8s is just a pipe dream as I am dangerously close to the limit of my wife's generosity for tolerating computer upgrades for this decade.  (fortunately we start a new one soon!)

 I hate to disappoint Mr. MicG so this is for his reading pleasure:

Pub Addr: 1CLiMAXt43DiJBPT9z7YEppUS8ssPjjUNJ
Priv (WIF): L5BunfnNDEdWC9w4hzWmbHBrUzp44YEp51TPgr6XcHqerghUTKJc
Priv (HEX): 0xEDC5F18B29BDC350F02B9AB4BB067752AD07F944EE697824B5C13452B7769453

 I get those all day long with my current hardware.  Tongue


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December 28, 2019, 05:42:18 PM

mindrust, don't invest more than you're ready to lose.

Don't want to sound like a bear or a party poop as someone would say - I'm far from both positions as it should be clear to anyone following this thread - but hard times do happen, it's best to be "pee pared" as the same someone would put it ;-)

TL;DR don't overdo it. DCA with the occasional BTFD spree is fine.

I already invested more than I could afford to lose  Grin (%25) Didn't cash out any. Not even my initial investment.

Ok ok I'll leave the red button alone. For now.

But the thought just doesn't go away  Grin
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December 28, 2019, 05:53:13 PM

Hey brothers!

Poster of the year: MicG for his fancy dinner pics and food porn and for being a great guy and a real hodler in general..
WOer of the year: Elwar for his crazy Thai adventure
Troll of the year: Gembitz for his WEEEEEEEE!  Grin

Seasons greetings once again!  Cool
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December 28, 2019, 06:01:48 PM
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Wow woW not to much credit, most around maybe yes though some posting need some better content as well and as very good posters as for humor as for being on topic or given good advices and good stuff we should know, yeah then my vote would definitely be difficult as a few should earn my vote Cheesy
You are doing more than okay brother.

JJG will get the prize for "Wall of text" 🤪

Thats a price for all over the forum not only at the WO

Nice that some peeps appear to be feeling thankful.....


You are welcome.  Just doing my lil part.  Or at least, trying.   Wink

I should also say that I am thankful to many of the contributions of a variety of other members who point things out or even frame matters in ways that differ from my own thinking, yet my writings are frequently attempting to engage in learning and digesting bitcoin information (and sometimes other sometimes relevant crap), too.  

So attempting to continue to learn and to keep updated regarding ever-going happenings in the space..

Hopefully many of the most relevant happenings that come through this WO thread more than other places on the forum and surely frequently members here are pointing out great tweets, reddit threads, current articles, conferences and other current informational bitcoin-related content like that, too.
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December 28, 2019, 06:16:20 PM
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Just watching ‘Take Me Out’.

It’s a UK dating show.

Look what one of the girls is called, perfect for our very own.....

We all know he loves a woman of colour Wink

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Just watching ‘Take Me Out’.

It’s a UK dating show.

Look what one of the girls is called, perfect for our very own.....

We all know he loves a woman of colour Wink



She doesn't look like a jew, so I'm not sure r0ach's mama would approve.
I could take one for the team if it comes to that.
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Thank you heslo and somac, Fuck you makrospex.

huh?
WTF?!
We all three said the same: Set it to zero.
 Huh
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Thank you heslo and somac, Fuck you makrospex.

huh?
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We all three said the same: Set it to zero.
 Huh
You didn't spoon feed him and were late with the details  Roll Eyes
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Along the lines of walls of text and over-investing...

 I have attempted to find Bitcoin addresses containing 10 letter words (after the initial 1) without regard for case (which makes it much easier) using a list of 22,399 words and the full processing capacity of my computer for 24 hours.  You'll be happy(er) to know, JJG, that I was able to find only one match from that entire list of words:

Pub Addr: 1ExeRcYCLeSxaZkCh7togWcSgcofRYVDLZ
Priv (WIF): L4o3NZYoSf6GVmLaxcaqtmunqiNBs77PNyANmpYtcL6r6dMtcCXb
Priv (HEX): 0xE202278FF792CE920126E8D3A2EE1483AB9FA00807B10B71EAACDAD1DD4D36E4

 and I believe that was mostly due to good luck.

 If I were to try for an exact case-sensitive match of 1ExercycLes (capital L because Bitcoin addresses can't use miniscule L capital I or Capital O) with random characters after it, I would need 2.4 years for a 50% chance of success.  your funds are SAFU.

 On a sad note, I will likely never find a 1JayJuanGee or a 1micgoossens address and a 1LastoftheV8s is just a pipe dream as I am dangerously close to the limit of my wife's generosity for tolerating computer upgrades for this decade.  (fortunately we start a new one soon!)

 I hate to disappoint Mr. MicG so this is for his reading pleasure:

Pub Addr: 1CLiMAXt43DiJBPT9z7YEppUS8ssPjjUNJ
Priv (WIF): L5BunfnNDEdWC9w4hzWmbHBrUzp44YEp51TPgr6XcHqerghUTKJc
Priv (HEX): 0xEDC5F18B29BDC350F02B9AB4BB067752AD07F944EE697824B5C13452B7769453

 I get those all day long with my current hardware.  Tongue


hahahahahaha

I am ssssssoooooooooo glad that you are able to find a hobby that keeps you formulating mathmatical computer problems in your spare time when you are not making hats and keeping your dad in touch with modern computing....  Wink

By the way, I understand that I can be a continuous bubble deflater, but what good do any of these vanity addresses do, anyhow?

Aren't best practices to largely limit use of any one address, and perhaps even one use per address.  Of course, there might be some occasions in which exceptions might be applicable.. for an institution that wants to keep books open or something like that, but private individuals?  Are we reusing bitcoin addresses?   Do you just plan to use some of these generated addresses one time, Xhomerx10?  Then how much good are they?  like a mayfly.. live with fame for only a very short period of time?
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December 28, 2019, 06:45:10 PM

mindrust, don't invest more than you're ready to lose.

Don't want to sound like a bear or a party poop as someone would say - I'm far from both positions as it should be clear to anyone following this thread - but hard times do happen, it's best to be "pee pared" as the same someone would put it ;-)

TL;DR don't overdo it. DCA with the occasional BTFD spree is fine.

I already invested more than I could afford to lose  Grin (%25) Didn't cash out any. Not even my initial investment.

Ok ok I'll leave the red button alone. For now.

But the thought just doesn't go away  Grin

Actually more reason that you should not either push the red button or employ option 3.

Hey, mindrust, I think that you already know that I don't give two shits about what you do, but since we are posting on a public thread, of course, if you are bringing up ideas regarding investing and overinvesting and all of that, many of the responses are meant for public absorption... or at least consideration of the ideas.

Accordingly, we know that it is different to invest 25% and/or to achieve 25% based on BTC appreciation.

These surely are considerations that any investor into BTC should be making regarding both how much to invest and whether or not to reallocate.  Sometimes choosing NOT to reallocate is a kind of additional investment, especially if the Bitcoin value (proportion) of your investment becomes way the fuck beyond your initial allocation authorizations. 

Personally, I am NOT so much into needing to reallocate in an asset like bitcoin merely because it has blown other investments out of the water, but of course, opinions are going to vary on that topic, and none of them are really unreasonable - even though each of them can contribute to individually considering the extent to which you are either overinvested, underinvested or adequately covered in your various other investments.

I know that there are people who do not have a lot of kinds of investments like stocks, bonds, real estate, PMs and other investment vehicles, so these calculations are going to differ too, regarding how prepared any of us might be on an individual level if one or more of the investments went to zero.. and of course, if there is only one investment, then the risk becomes greater.. at least in the scaling of "overinvestment" calculations, ponderings and considerations.
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Well shit, that is gonna fuck my recommended all up now.



I think you can delete individuals from your history

Funny I googled how to do that and noscript blocked the google cross site script.

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Thank you heslo and somac, Fuck you makrospex.

huh?
WTF?!
We all three said the same: Set it to zero.
 Huh
You didn't spoon feed him and were late with the details  Roll Eyes

Alright, i see...
I typed my reply in a hurry while the other two WOs were posting already.

EDIT: Backread the thread now and it obviously was the step-by-step google selfhelp instructions from me that set him up.
However, that's how the pro's do it  Grin
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So apparently, CSWcoin is going to hardfork in the near future. Said hardfork includes the fantastic idea of basically stealing people's unclaimed BTC, which means, if you didn't claim your BSV, those coins will be "confiscated" by CSW-Ayre's mining operation (which I presume are the only people mining the thing). This also includes that satoshi's "1 million" coins will be stolen. According to raw calculations, they'll get $85million. I mean, it's not a lot, but still, this has to be a joke right? am I taking crazy pills? How is people unironically supporting such thing at this point?

I assume most here didn't even bother claiming the coins. I mean, it's such a pain claiming a forked coins, you have to do much for so little, but I don't appreciate CSW getting free money, but still, I may just don't bother.

If this is not the case, correct me if im wrong on the whole thing, but that is what I extracted from what I've read.

Can you link to highlighted, please?
Apart from rumors, i haven' seen anything solid, as it would be very weird.




Gmaxwell did address this on bsv subreddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/bsv/comments/edr0av/massive_replay_theft_coming_to_a_scamchain_near/

And official bsv page says:

https://bitcoinsv.io/2019/12/23/bitcoin-sv-blocking-potential-p2sh-replay-attack-after-genesis-hard-fork/

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In response, the Bitcoin SV Node team will update the “Genesis” hard fork specification by upgrading the rule rejecting the P2SH script pattern from a policy rule to a consensus rule.  That is the specific script template “OP_HASH160 <hash> OP_EQUAL” will not be allowed in new outputs and this rule will be directly implemented in the Bitcoin SV Node software.  Whilst unfortunate to restrict the usage of a particular script pattern, we note that the same effect can be achieved using variations of the script pattern e.g. “OP_SHA256 OP_RIPEMD160 <hash> OP_EQUAL”.

This change closes the attack vector and mitigates the need for honest miners to forcibly reject blocks containing theft transactions.  Whilst this could have triggered a valuable demonstration of the principle of honest miners acting punitively against dishonest miners, the public disclosure by Mr. Maxwell raises the potential cost to those miners to an unacceptable level.

Note: The theory is that it is argued if there were any "mistakes" here, and stealing funds was always part of the plan, they just got caught by gmaxwell.

I don't understand any of this.  I read the subreddit linked above.  Which coins might be stolen if the worst happens?  What does it mean for those of us who have bitcoins stored in segwit addresses and "compatibile" (starting with 3) addresses?




Trying to make any sense out of this clusterfuck. So apparently (and I forgot about this) Bitcoin SV did fork from Bitcoin Cash. Now, on BCH addresses:
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Each BCH address also has a “legacy address,” which is its corresponding bitcoin address. Going forward, the Blockchain wallet will only display the corresponding CashAddr addresses. Users can continue to send and receive using legacy BCH addresses, but we recommend using the new format for an optimal user experience.

So the way I see it is that, people affected by this, will be the ones that had unclaimed BCH which remained in legacy addresses, but only the amounts that be sitting on p2sh... so to put it simple, any unclaimed amounts sitting on addresses that don't begin with 1 can be stolen. This proves in practice, an scenario in which the schelling point to hold your coins is addresses that begin with 1, and nothing else. Nobody will ever be stupid enough to break backwards-compatibility with addresses that begin with 1 (the original format) so seems reasonable to hold your coins in such format.

Now, if you bother with the clusterfuck that is claiming coins from a fork, then go for it, but a lot of people may simply don't even care they lose those coins all things considered. I mean, I would hate giving those guys "free money", but at this point I can't be fucking bothered with any of this nonsense, im trying to relax and enjoy the holidays, last thing on my mind is having to deal with this insanity to be frank. Remember that it requires that you move the entirety of your holdings, then download some dodgy software, then have to sync the entire blockchain of said altcoin, copy the empty wallet after you've moved your funds in there, and finally dump the damn thing. All of this without screwing up in the process.
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My term deposit at bank is about to mature after 6 months. I'm getting like $1k for this shitty investment. And what is worse, the interest rates got halved. Next time, I'll be getting like $500 for the same investment at the same bank.

I am making a big decision here:


Option 1: Keep collecting peanuts. Keep DCA'ing.

Option 2: Buy the dip, Keep DCA'ing. (1-2 btc)

Option 3: Nuke everything and become a 1 million club member while I still can. (all in)

*Option 3 violates my investment rules. Violates it like fuck all gimme lambo.






I had done option "3" once in my life when I was much younger. Lost everything in that fiat account, which I since rebuilt to personal ATH, but it took many years.
That said, it depends on several parameters:

1. Your investment portfolio size vs your yearly income
2. Your age
3. How steady you job is (if there is a job).
4. family responsibilities, if any
5. last, but most important-the probability of the trade success (if it could be assigned)

If investment portfolio is small in comparison with yearly income, I don't see why someone cannot invest a large %, providing that the job is steady and you have a good income.

There is a formula (Klein criterion-see wiki) which describes the % of portfolio one should dedicate to a bet.
The problem is-it involves assigning a probability to a trade success, which is almost always an impossible task.
Example: on a trade with 60% success one should invest 20% of the portfolio; trade with 70% success, 40% of portfolio, etc, etc.
Mind you, these %% are "real" numbers, not imaginary ones.
Also, NO MARGIN.

EDIT:
Formula...Fraction of portfolio to invest (in decimals)=[2X(chance of trade success in decimals)]-1
Therefore, 0% to invest when 50:50 (or lower) and 100% to invest when 100% chance of success.
Everything else-in between.

EDIT2 messed up the last name..it is Kelly, not Klein, kudos to Millionero for correction.
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Well shit, that is gonna fuck my recommended all up now.



I think you can delete individuals from your history

Funny I googled how to do that and noscript blocked the google cross site script.

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The ones that went "don't be evil"...  Angry

BTW, startpage is my goto search engine these days. Better than the duck for me. I like the way it lets you save preferences without cookies: They can be encoded in a custom (anonymous of course) search URL.
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