I wish we'd just crash below $6,500, to rip the bandage off and cause some real pain. This fucking around Bitcorn is doing, is starting to piss me off. She's all over the place last few weeks...
well yea, but that's just how sideways goes... i mean, an actual stable currency would have tiny movements, never really changing by any large amount... least we're not seeing that. I doubt that we can expect bitcoin to serve as any kind of stable currency for a long time. It is too god damned small. Furthermore, I have no problems with current BTC prices, even though we seem to be towards the bottom of a correction channel. We are a whole hell of a lot better off, so it seems to me, than we were between December 2018 and March 2019...... like double better, so I really cannot appreciate reasons to be complaining regarding the bearwhales that are going to try to manipulate prices down as far as they can and for as long as they can, and even though I have no clue about when they are going to run out of coins to dump, it does seem that sooner or later the momentum is going to change and bearwhales who are betting upon further down or any other fence sitters, no coiners or bitcoin naysayers might end up getting fucked to the extent that they have not adequately prepared themselves for UP. |
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Perhaps keeping it simple for the general audience. Lots of folks will stop listening if they don't understand what's being said. He appeals to a large group of investors I'd imagine of which most probably won't understand mining.
For context, we are referring to my comments about the Tim Draper interview video. Even though I agree with you (Icygreen) that Draper likely attempts to frame his discussion in terms of broad context ideas, I stick by the comments of my earlier post, and I may even double down to assert that he might not even understand the significance of certain technical aspects of projects in which he invests. I am NOT trying to act as if I am technically smarter than Draper, but he is more of a broader concepts kind of investor and he does not necessarily get into the technical weeds of his various investments, but he does seem to be more than ready, willing and able to get into investing into technical matters that he does not understand so long as he largely agrees with the overall offer proposition of the thing that he is investing into. Probably the fact that he dabbles with a large number of investments at the same time, necessitates that he does not get into too many technical details, so, again, I am not sure whether he actually understands the significance of the every two weeks mining adjustment (because it would be easy enough to put that into laymans terms), but of course, I recognize that he easily would understand the whole concept if anyone were to explain it to him (presuming that he currently does not recognize it as an important factor to mention in these kinds of public overview of bitcoin discussions). I will also assert that even though Draper does not seem to get into the weeds of any technical proposition arguments, he also does not seem to be easily distracted into any kinds of pumping up of various shitcoins, and maybe he does invest in shitcoins but just does not talk about them. Most of all interviews that I have seen him, he will redirect any attempts at shitcoin talking back towards bitcoin. So, whether he ends up being correct or not, his not getting into shitcoins is something else that bitcoin maximalists can appreciate. Don't get me wrong, I, personally, am not really hostile to various possible technical offerings of shitcoins, but I am frequently against either overexaggerating their importance or attempting to put them on some kind of equivalency pedestal as bitcoin, when there is a BIG ASS lacking of actual factual and logical evidence to show any shitcoin to come even close to bitcoin, and I hate to even mention the network effects of Ethereum in this regard, because even the network effects of ethereum seem to be considerably built upon smoke and mirrors that have decent odds of completely collapsing in spite of all the supposed hundreds of thousands of snot nosed 14 year olds building upon it. But hey what do I know? I am surprised that ethereum is seemingly holding its own (to the extent that it is) for more than 5 years already... holiey ba-jeezus!!!!!  Drapers' kool aid strong! :-D ~ i met him last year fwiw* lol Did you yell "wwwweeeeee" right to his kool aid face? Oh yeah!!!!  |
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But there were no weekend pump 😀
This is fine.
Indeed that was the negative side, just as my drunk promising to him a few weeks earlier ..... Though we had an awesome evening that can’t be taken away anymore and more important as only stacking money .... I am a bit unclear about what you mean about this "stacking money" concept? Are you saying it is a good thing to "stack money"? or a bad thing? or something else? Maybe it is a "bad" english thing coming out of the keyboard of "this particular" team associate?  Or alternatively, it is possible that I might just be NOT understanding some kind of contextual issue regarding this usage. Perhaps? It’s not to difficult actually ..... don’t only save money in general ( money = which money or whatever you prefer that’s valuable to you...) But have fun as well!!! Hm? I was going to suggest that I though that you were slipping, but hey maybe it is consistent with some of your earlier ideas. The concept is really to stack sats, and I see no reason to get all inclined towards stacking money, even though the truth of the matter remains that once a guy (or gal) gets through the accumulation phase, then s/he is going to be a lot more flexible in terms of how s/he manages his/her portfolio. Furthermore, getting into a liquidation phase is likely going to involve more acceptance of whatever happens to be the dollar value - and surely can vary depending on how much time s/he projects to be cashing out. |
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https://zuxbux.win/cute one from Giacomo ...Carefully take note of all the gaslighting tactics, the rhetoric tricks, the fallacies, the dissimulated double-standards, the confusing intellectual Rube-Goldberg machines, the unholy hybrids of mellifluous sealioning and aggressive Gish-galloping. Then just embrace them, accept them...and, finally, enhance them! Remember: the same exact “arguments” the Axl Rose look-alike uses to confuse people interested in Bitcoin and to justify his scam, can be used by you to confuse people interested in HEX and to justify your own scam!!!... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY1KoQXM-R0 He was on Heart's channel earlier, trolling gently. Oh my!!!!! I am impressed, not just with Giacomo's trolling efforts of Richard Heart, but later in Heart's live stream Peter McCormick came onto Richard's live stream show, and spoke with Richard for about 2 hours. Yeah, Heart complained that Peter had been stalking him and came on uninvited, and turned into a real fucking dick for almost the whole discussion with Peter. Richard could not get off of attack mode which surely did not shed him in a good light. Peter did much better in this interaction as compared with his interaction from a couple of days ago (that I commented upon in this post). Way the fuck better, and pretty much flustered the fuck out of Richard Heart for the whole time, and Peter was more than gracious, even allowing a whole hell of a lot of rope for Richard to hang himself. Masterful, really. Accordingly, I did not conclude that I had wasted my time by listening to the largely ongoing flounderings of Heart to constantly be attacking Peter, which made Richard appear to be the real and actual scammer that he is. |
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But there were no weekend pump 😀
This is fine.
Indeed that was the negative side, just as my drunk promising to him a few weeks earlier ..... Though we had an awesome evening that can’t be taken away anymore and more important as only stacking money .... I am a bit unclear about what you mean about this "stacking money" concept? Are you saying it is a good thing to "stack money"? or a bad thing? or something else? Maybe it is a "bad" english thing coming out of the keyboard of "this particular" team associate? Or alternatively, it is possible that I might just be NOT understanding some kind of contextual issue regarding this usage. Perhaps? |
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Perhaps keeping it simple for the general audience. Lots of folks will stop listening if they don't understand what's being said. He appeals to a large group of investors I'd imagine of which most probably won't understand mining.
For context, we are referring to my comments about the Tim Draper interview video. Even though I agree with you (Icygreen) that Draper likely attempts to frame his discussion in terms of broad context ideas, I stick by the comments of my earlier post, and I may even double down to assert that he might not even understand the significance of certain technical aspects of projects in which he invests. I am NOT trying to act as if I am technically smarter than Draper, but he is more of a broader concepts kind of investor and he does not necessarily get into the technical weeds of his various investments, but he does seem to be more than ready, willing and able to get into investing into technical matters that he does not understand so long as he largely agrees with the overall offer proposition of the thing that he is investing into. Probably the fact that he dabbles with a large number of investments at the same time, necessitates that he does not get into too many technical details, so, again, I am not sure whether he actually understands the significance of the every two weeks mining adjustment (because it would be easy enough to put that into laymans terms), but of course, I recognize that he easily would understand the whole concept if anyone were to explain it to him (presuming that he currently does not recognize it as an important factor to mention in these kinds of public overview of bitcoin discussions). I will also assert that even though Draper does not seem to get into the weeds of any technical proposition arguments, he also does not seem to be easily distracted into any kinds of pumping up of various shitcoins, and maybe he does invest in shitcoins but just does not talk about them. Most of all interviews that I have seen him, he will redirect any attempts at shitcoin talking back towards bitcoin. So, whether he ends up being correct or not, his not getting into shitcoins is something else that bitcoin maximalists can appreciate. Don't get me wrong, I, personally, am not really hostile to various possible technical offerings of shitcoins, but I am frequently against either overexaggerating their importance or attempting to put them on some kind of equivalency pedestal as bitcoin, when there is a BIG ASS lacking of actual factual and logical evidence to show any shitcoin to come even close to bitcoin, and I hate to even mention the network effects of Ethereum in this regard, because even the network effects of ethereum seem to be considerably built upon smoke and mirrors that have decent odds of completely collapsing in spite of all the supposed hundreds of thousands of snot nosed 14 year olds building upon it. But hey what do I know? I am surprised that ethereum is seemingly holding its own (to the extent that it is) for more than 5 years already... holiey ba-jeezus!!!!! |
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BTC/USD Long/Short Ratio 84:15 % of supply long:short 0.21:0.037 Long Daily Charge $37,883 Short Daily Charge 0.32568 BTC Total Long 37,880 ($285,020,484) Funded Longs $126,276,811 Total Short 6,743 ($50,736,355) Funded Shorts 4,587 BTC closed my long because its the most crowded trade on the internet. went short @7580$ feeling not so confident (tight stops) https://www.tradingview.com/x/lTknVaPhGood move. But don't forget to buy again at 6k-ish as there will be another bounce back and this time it should be higher than 7.7k range. In terms of short term BTC price predictions, I would not rule out up, even though down or sideways could be correct outcomes, at least in the short to medium term, but if you don't have any coins and you are thinking about investing, what do you do? Wait to buy? What if you have some bitcoins, but you are nervous about the short term price? Do you hold or do you sell and wait to buy back lower? Currently, BTC price is bounce/floating between about $7,300 to $7,600, I am not going to get too excited regarding short-term BTC price moves unless there is a break below $6,700 or a break above $8.2k. Furthermore, I continue to sense overexuberance in the alt coin space, so even though i sense that there could be somewhat of an altcoin season that comes sometime in the future that goes up along with BTC, there likely remains a lot of froth that can be purged from that space, and if it is purged, it might cause some continued downward pressures on BTC. Nonetheless, those kinds of short term uncertainties about BTC price and even concerns about various froth in the space that goes beyond bitcoin to some degree don't really say much at all about ongoing and decently strong BTC fundamentals, that can cause sporadic upbursts in BTC price from time to time. Will we see such sporadic upbursts in BTC price in the near future, could be, and I would hate to be a fence-sitter or take the wrong side of a bet during such possible upsurge happenings, but hey each of us have to make our own choices regarding what actions might be prudent in terms of BTC holdings. |
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your skype connection
I don't have a skype, lol Hire someone else.. You run a tough bargain. I was playing good cop. Now we are going to have bad cop come in and let you know what will happen if you don't cooperate. Good luck. |
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I might fly there, knock on his door, and attempt to interview him, if you guys want to pay to make it happen..
Send me on an adventure..
Someone said he is out of jail? Where's he at?
I believe that I heard him interviewed by Tone Vays or Chris Darose or someone on a podcast a couple of years ago and it was after he had already been sentenced and before he had served any time, I believe. He did not seem like any kind of outright liar, but surely sometimes it can be difficult to know if their is a reason to lie about one aspect or another aspect of his past conduct. I doubt that he would accept any kind of interview, unless he is really comfortable with the situation, and possibly he would not even want to do it in person... ... so we would just have to pay for your skype connection rather than your plane and hotel... hahahahahaha |
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Here's one for the play list. Tim Draper's 250K prediction for 2023, a Dec 31st prediction & a few more gems. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Xz4luFb2cSurely this guy has a massive book to talk and still seems genuine. Credit for being one of the first to call 10K. Overall, he comes off as a true believer, and of course, with his purchase of the 30k coins in 2014 for about $640 per coin, he is in 10x floating profits to the extent that he still holds those coins. I did think that he could have addressed the spiraling mining valuation a bit better. Of course, he mentioned that mining would be up and down and up and down, but overall profitable, but I think that Draper missed out talking about the difficulty adjustment mechanism that seems to self-correct many of the questions regarding the stability of mining or even the fact that fees are going to have to go shooting way the fuck up in order to incentivize miners. Neither the question was clear nor the answer, but I am suggesting that he could have touched upon the difficulty adjustments that continue to incentivize miners and will even cause lower hash power miners to come into mining bitcoin in case a bunch of miners were to shut off their mining machines. |
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Oh gawd... you are going to accuse me of engaging in a witch hunt, too?
No... That was meant to address twitchy.. Finished your post and yeah, I was not trying to include you in the witch hunting party.. I see you as a pretty neutral truth seeker.. Ok. Thanks for the clarification. |
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OGNasty seemed to imply that there were no complaints. There should always be some complaints
I'm seriously not out on a Witch Hunt here
Where are the compaints? If their are no complaints, then why are you even digging for dirt, unless it is a witch hunt? Oh gawd... you are going to accuse me of engaging in a witch hunt, too? Seems to me that I just raised a legitimate connected concept. I recall OGNasty asserting that there were no complaints, and if there were no complaints, then so be it. I have life experiences that have shown me that when dealing with people there are frequently if not always some complaints.. and surely, some complaints are materially relevant and others are not. Let's say, for example, that one of the investors was owed 10BTC, and OGNasty said that he was going to send the 10BTC within 72 hours; however, it took him a week to send the 10BTC. There might be a complaint about receiving the BTC late, but in the end, many might conclude that the late sending of the BTC was not necessarily a material breach, even though OGNasty had represented that he would send the BTC within 72 hours. Now if he did not send the 10 BTC or he only sent 2 BTC that might be another story. Another example would be if OGNasty said that he was only going to send 2 BTC because he was only paying 20% of the amount owed which was apportionate to the whole amount of the funds that were available, but if OGNasty later got reimbursed the additional 8 BTC with the presumption that OGNasty was receiving that additional reimbursement to pay off any additional claims, there might not have been any complaints if the intended recipient did not realize that OGNasty had received the additional 8BTC but had not used those funds for reimbursement.... So, in any case, the absence of complaints might not prove the point that is at issue, and if some investors later find out that they were provided with false or misleading facts, then they might choose to later complain even though they had not complained earlier. I am just saying that complaints might or might not be relevant, even at a later stage of looking into the matter. This shit is ancient and you are just trying to find ancient dirt..
Perhaps everything is ancient. I have no fucking clue. If new evidence comes out, and affected people just find out about the new information, then the situation might no longer be "ancient" because there is the revelation of new information. I haven't seen any mention of the intentions of this to make any possible victims whole.. Just to take down OGNasty..
I don't know. I already revealed how my attention was drawn to this, which was initially the various posts about the airdropped coins that led into this information, and if there is just digging up old information then I may have missed that, and I have no intention to rehash old information, to the extent that might be happening. |
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I am a bit more interested in the extent to which posts might have been deleted in terms of OGNasty's own back and forth communications, which seems to be what Twitchy asserted to have happened within a short period of Twitchy's attempted investigation into some of the possible factual matters. In that regard, I had thought that there should be way back machines or something like that that would establish if Twitch's assertion about OGNasty engaging in shredding would be true.. and then furthermore, a way to see the contents of the shredding attempts without having to rely upon any forum administrator's possible abilities to access such contents.
Am I naive to believe that there are way back machines that would capture the contents of forum post shredding attempts. There are guys (and perhaps a gal or two) who are way the hell better at using those kinds of interwebs tools than me... to the extent such tools might exist.
It looks like I was wrong about him deleting posts from that thread. It's possible I saw the long OP get deleted and for some reason though it was actually deleted posts, or it could have been in another thread. It looks like all he did was delete the entire OP and lock the thread. So, yeah, I was wrong about that and apologize to OG for making that claim. I'm seriously not out on a Witch Hunt here and If I find anything that exonerates him or something I that makes him look 'less bad' I would post it for sure. For anyone that is behind, please read this post, and then this post if you want to catch up. Thanks for that clarification, Twitchy. I am glad that wayback machine was able to clarify that deleting of posts was not as BIG or widespread as previously recalled, and surely we know that sometimes OPs are rewritten as matters evolve, so sometimes the rewriting of the OP could cause some inadvertent appearances of a cover up that ends up NOT panning out upon further investigation. |
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IIRC the first hats were not specifically intended to be worn as an avatar. Maybe xhomerx could clear this point and... WTF was he thinking when he came up with the idea  Also was it Hairy the first one to wear his (Genesis) hat as an avatar or was it Rosewater? Were it had been Rosewater that would surely reinforce the cap-itulation meaning of it. There are also some semi hat related anecdotes like when Vod decided it was a good idea to poke/mess (presumably just for fun) with Mic and it was like the first time a thread out of WO got quickly filled with hats: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5065375.0I actually liked that thread a lot and the HAT invasion though JJ F***G must appear in his classic style of-course https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5065375.msg47695534#msg47695534But overal it was a fun moment at that time .... Gosh you are a hater!!!!!!! I tried to use this meme against someone else, but it ended up backfiring to resemble my avatar too much. So I am going to have to embrace such meme, and apply it here in regards to the ongoing hate of the micgeese.  IIRC the first hats were not specifically intended to be worn as an avatar. Maybe xhomerx could clear this point and... WTF was he thinking when he came up with the idea Also was it Hairy the first one to wear his (Genesis) hat as an avatar or was it Rosewater? Were it had been Rosewater that would surely reinforce the cap-itulation meaning of it. There are also some semi hat related anecdotes like when Vod decided it was a good idea to poke/mess (presumably just for fun) with Mic and it was like the first time a thread out of WO got quickly filled with hats: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5065375.0I actually liked that thread a lot and the HAT invasion though JJ F***G must appear in his classic style of-course https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5065375.msg47695534#msg47695534But overal it was a fun moment at that time .... Really funny yeah. Somehow the thread got locked after several JJG walls of text and before I could post some memes about Vod "throwing gas to a fire.gif". I must have ruined dee moo, like a real party poop.  |
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I don't want to mention any alts, but it is a bit strange that AA starts talking about multiple chains forming the "Internet of money". Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VG-zln3TUgThe only current weakness I see in bitcoin is a potential for a sudden fee increase, which should be alleviated by the LN in principle, however, it's the details that matter. Not a problem right now. VCs will be hyping other chains, that's beyond the question. SEC tackled telegram for now, but there will be others. Anybody knows if is there a vehicle that trades bitcoin dominance? It could be an interesting hedge trade. PlanB, incidentally, thinks that dominance is about to spike higher ("Guess, what's next" twit) https://twitter.com/100trillionUSD/status/1203012308513017856Regarding your first link to the about 20 minute Andreas Antonopolis YouTube video presentation, I don't conclude that AA is really changing his position very much, but he does seem to come out fairly strongly in his ongoing tolerance for a multi-coined future, which seems to give more free market credit to a lot of the shitcoin projects than they likely deserve. So, he does seem to kind of come out swinging in his assertion that he has been misunderstood and mislabelled into the maximalist camp (suggesting that the bitcoin community likely has been assigning him as a bitcoiner) and he wants to argue and set the case clear that he is not a maximalist anything.... blah blah blah... which he makes a lot of references to various ethereum projects and suggesting that those shitcoin projects have some kind of meaningful contributions to the world of crypto.. blockchain.. internet of money.. blah blah blah. So, yeah, he has been criticized for tolerating and/or enabling too much shitcoin pumpenings and sometimes adopting and accepting too much of the shitcoin propaganda language through his seemingly ongoing enamor of the tech contributions of various shitcoins - even though he does seem to understand concepts of sound money, he also seemed to be downplaying any attention to sound money ideas in this particular presentation and seems like he did not even mention bitcoin one time in the presentation (likely on purpose because he is having an internal struggle against king daddy... hahahahahahaha). |
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You are anticipating something that I would like to know, eddie13? I may have heard something about VOD calling the IRS about OGNasty
So what about the auditing part?
I think you could get caught up by reading my posts in this thread starting here for a couple pages or so..
I am a bit more interested in the extent to which posts might have been deleted in terms of OGNasty's own back and forth communications, which seems to be what Twitchy asserted to have happened within a short period of Twitchy's attempted investigation into some of the possible factual matters. In that regard, I had thought that there should be way back machines or something like that that would establish if Twitch's assertion about OGNasty engaging in shredding would be true.. and then furthermore, a way to see the contents of the shredding attempts without having to rely upon any forum administrator's possible abilities to access such contents.
Am I naive to believe that there are way back machines that would capture the contents of forum post shredding attempts. There are guys (and perhaps a gal or two) who are way the hell better at using those kinds of interwebs tools than me... to the extent such tools might exist.
Same here.. I am soooo ready to see some damning evidence against OG after all of this half baked, circumstantial, and speculative attacking of him basically across the entire forum.. Some of the best of the best are here constantly trying to dig at whatever they can find and keep coming up with nothing much, while still insisting he is such a horrible scammer and causing ridiculous amounts of drama.. At this point I really just want to finally be convinced that he is indeed a piece of shit so I can quit caring about all of this, but nothing good yet.. Maybe they got em this time, and if they do, I want to see it.. I did not really want to get into the VOD drama unless there is some significant reason that I need to do so. I am not going to rule out that I may want to look further into the matter, but there is only so much time in the day, and I was just curious about the possible significance of purported deleted posts that Twitchy had brought up regarding OGNasty, and if there is not really much if any significance, then maybe this whole assertion that OGNasty is going to jail is overblown. So, yeah, I have seen some of the arguments against OGNasty, and surely the trent shavers testimony would only be one aspect, but there would need to be some kind of corroboration, whether evidence of bitcoin addresses or even members complaining that they were not paid while OGNasty seemed to imply that there were no complaints. There should always be some complaints, but then a question might be whether any of the complaints add up to clear and convincing evidence against OGNasty in terms of whether he engaged in fraudulent behavior or breach of fiduciary behavior or some other means of running off with the funds, and that is what seems to be asserted here. By the way, I personally doubt that there has to be either direct evidence or even evidence of legal wrong doing in order to drag a person's reputation through the mud regarding conduct that might end up being morally repugnant rather than illegal, so in that sense, the evidence still seems to be a bit ambiguous from my perspective about OGNasty - but I am NOT even saying that I have seen all of the evidence. Sure, there were some problematic aspects of how he seemed to have handled the forum airdrops, which was kind of what drew me into this seemingly related discussion in the first place, and even with that, I see topics (talking about forum funds and the other pass through entity allegations of this thread) overlapping, and I only have so much time to think about these kinds of OGNasty is a bad guy matters, and sometimes factual matters from different cases could show a pattern of behavior, even if each one of the situations might not stand completely on its own as a violation (like fraud, or breach of fiduciary duty or conversion or whatever), too. |
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BTW did you actually call the IRS on OG, putting his life in danger, the 500 BTC of forum funds in danger, and possibly the forum itself in legal danger, or did you lie about contacting the IRS? JJG want's to know too.. You are anticipating something that I would like to know, eddie13? I may have heard something about VOD calling the IRS about OGNasty, but I really cannot remember if I did or not, so I should not be spreading rumors in terms of my own faulty memory regarding that. Rather than getting derailed into what VOD may have done ( Edit: looks like Vod largely responded to this point above to the extent that it might be minimally relevant to anything that we are attempting to discuss here), and I am not sure if it is completely relevant (but sure, it could be relevant, I suppose). I am a bit more interested in the extent to which posts might have been deleted in terms of OGNasty's own back and forth communications, which seems to be what Twitchy asserted to have happened within a short period of Twitchy's attempted investigation into some of the possible factual matters. In that regard, I had thought that there should be way back machines or something like that that would establish if Twitch's assertion about OGNasty engaging in shredding would be true.. and then furthermore, a way to see the contents of the shredding attempts without having to rely upon any forum administrator's possible abilities to access such contents. Am I naive to believe that there are way back machines that would capture the contents of forum post shredding attempts. There are guys (and perhaps a gal or two) who are way the hell better at using those kinds of interwebs tools than me... to the extent such tools might exist. |
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Gann's theory suggests buying the possible dip before the angels touch the next spectrum which will follow the price after the $11250. The Gann theory is widely used in stock and forex technical analyze, is it same for BTC charts? Any ideas?  P.s: Photo is from Twitter. Yeah, but where is the twitter link? or the twitter user. It is better practice to attempt to give appropriate credit, even to the re-tweeting of the ideas came from someone else. By the way, the Gann theory visual looks quite pretty on that graph, but I am a bit unclear what the theory would be saying in that particular visual. Members attempt to employ all kinds of technical analysis that involves the drawing of lines, and surely there are going to be times in which the lines help to bring the matter of BTC price performance into perspective, yet with any theory, we have to take them with grains of salt, and surely there are a variety of theories in bitcoin that attempt to combine technical analysis and fundamentals in order to come up with relatively convincing price description and prescription models... of course, we don't know for sure if any of the models or theories are going to play out in the longer term until time passes that might lend more or less credibility to the model, theory or even tools that might be employed to come up with theories and models. |
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Looking for the beginning of the hats, written directly, highlighting, the most interesting, just trying to tell this beautiful story:
When reviewing the pages of 2018, the first publication that refers to a hat is a Last of the V8s publication, it seems that it was the trigger of the WO hats at the HairyMaclairy appointment.
From my recollection, this early hat history conversation goes back before October 15, 2018 - because I believe that the main reason that V8 was razzing Hairy so much about hat eating was because months earlier Hairy had said that he would eat his hat if there was certain BTC price movement. I can't remember exactly the bold prediction, so I went back and looked at Hairy's posts for many months before October 15, but I could not find such post.. so I cannot exactly refresh my memory with an actual post. I don't know, this morning I arrived until October 10 and I didn't find anything about it and the phrase V8 have you ever eaten a hat? It refers to the previous publication of hairy for BFX deposits 15 Oct. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg46903711#msg46903711I do agree that it can be quite funny or ironic how each of us can have differing recollections of aspects of history, and even which parts of the history had pushed forward the dominance of a certain kind of narrative. Of course, not too much unlike the blindfolded folks assessing what is an elephant from their various perspectives.  Or, perhaps more accurately, like two elephants wrestling?  The one on the bottom is me... hahahahahaha: "I give up. I give up." The one on the top is VB1001. |
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Makes me think we're about to strike upwards Im a Debbie Downer then, thinking to be looking for some ironic bearish twist where we top out in positions held. Just like alot of shorts in a price is a time to consider the opposite ? From your post, I cannot really determine who you are quoting STT, but I gather that you are proclaiming that BTC shorts are starting to pile up, currently? or they are not? A little unclear. I would recognize that there does seem to be some incentive or fuel that can help to inspire the REKKING of either BTC shorts or longs when they become overly exuberant in their chosen bet direction and they fail or refuse to hedge the opposite direction, and since we cannot track each of the BTC margin traders it is hard to determine if the same traders are getting REKKT over and over again or if the causing of REKKT is a phenomenon that more experienced traders largely employ against the novice traders who want to get rich quick, and even if such novice traders might learn lessons from their gambling too much on one BTC price direction, there tends to be little to no shortage of new novice traders coming into a space, such as bitcoin, in order to try their luck in the margin trading game. |
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