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Gann's theory suggests buying the possible dip before the angels touch the next spectrum which will follow the price after the $11250. The Gann theory is widely used in stock and forex technical analyze, is it same for BTC charts? Any ideas?



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December 08, 2019, 05:30:37 PM

Whats more likely? 7500$ or 7535$ ??

Please it's important? I'm in BTC for just a few days and wanna know, THX and let me know what you guys think....
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December 08, 2019, 05:36:28 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDaCrTHClEs

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I would definitely wanna go out with this group for a drink, what an epic speech .... Have watched this video numerous times the last 3 days, tears in my eyes from laughing, just awesome....
If someone didn't saw before, then your in for a treat
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December 08, 2019, 05:37:31 PM

Whats more likely? 7500$ or 7535$ ??

Please it's important? I'm in BTC for just a few days and wanna know, THX and let me know what you guys think....

My question is answered, i'm saved, get rich fast is the trick it seems
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December 08, 2019, 05:37:46 PM

By the way, I am still on the lookout for a reliable dead man switch arrangement. I'm afraid if anything happens to me, my family won't be able to collect. Any tips? Should I open yet another thread "out there"?

I read a nice thread on the topic.
A lot of ideas to feed from:

Dead man's switch: better approach proposal
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December 08, 2019, 05:42:34 PM

VB1001 while we're at it, I resisted the hat fad for many long weeks, much to micgoossens' consternation, until finally cap-itulating to conformity
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg47846923#msg47846923
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg47861315#msg47861315
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December 08, 2019, 05:54:53 PM
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Thanks so far for your suggestions and opinions on the secure, inheritable seed storage topic.
It's a hell of effort for me to quote everybody's contribution i'm referring to here, so i round it up in this unilateral post, to avoid to totally mess it up.

I now consider storing one half of every seed in a place where i must have at least personal contact to a human to access the seedwords.
That means safe (yuck) or notary. Maybe both, half seedwords in the safe, passphrase at the notary for post mortem inheritance reasons or something like that.

JJG: I didn't tell the bank's employee anything about crypto, and i would i never do so. I just mentioned folded, single paper sheets and little items. I guess i will keep the ledger(s) at home for everyday use and to follow the two-level anti-thug advice of sacrificing a few % of my crypto (by mindrust, if i'm correct), which was also brilliant.

Somebody was curious about the country, it's Austria (the one without the kangaroos).

The finger is doing nice, at least no signs of infection and i can use it for typing again. This should end well, and i regard that as a warning by the universe, to follow safety standards with cutting tools. Even worse, i have a pair of kevlar gloves lying around. I should have used them. Once i rammed the base of my thumb into a sharp sheet metal edge, which got it cut half off, with a lot more blood, hospital, stitches and temporary nerve damage involved. Doctors did beautyful work, ten years later the scar is very light and thin.

Thanks for the love, practical tips and support so far #nohomo

I'm in read-only mode for the rest of the day or two, need to make a few wood/metal rings (jewellery) soon, which still needs quite some research and experimentation, and also craft another two of those bitcointalk anniversary ebony poker chips, using a different process.

There's better than that... Satoshi labs have BIP (and have implemented there own version) for a key sharing on the trezor:
https://blog.trezor.io/shamir-backup-the-revolution-of-private-keys-backup-is-here-858687ed7fe7

As soon as I saw that, I bought the model-T (already have the one, but is unsupported on that).

Now I have mailed out shares to my most trusted friends and family, signed and sealed with an explanation letter so that if anything happened to me it can all be recovered. Made A LOT of shares and most of them are required for recovery.
Originally I did split the seed words, but that does mean the number words required to be guessed is greatly reduced. I my case they had 2/3rds of the words, so just 1/3rd had to be guessed. With the Shamir there's no worries there.

Just would be nice for others to implement the BIP!
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December 08, 2019, 05:56:52 PM

VB1001 while we're at it, I resisted the hat fad for many long weeks, much to micgoossens' consternation, until finally cap-itulating to conformity

I read it this morning, it took you a while to put on your hat, but I preferred not to publish it, the important thing is the result, we all have a hat, I appreciate your sincerity.
You are a grumpy guy Cheesy, but you are always telling the truth and this honors you, never change. Cool
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December 08, 2019, 06:02:58 PM



You fucking doxed me!!! Tongue
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December 08, 2019, 06:10:48 PM

VB1001 while we're at it, I resisted the hat fad for many long weeks, much to micgoossens' consternation, until finally cap-itulating to conformity

I read it this morning, it took you a while to put on your hat, but I preferred not to publish it, the important thing is the result, we all have a hat, I appreciate your sincerity.
You are a grumpy guy Cheesy, but you are always telling the truth and this honors you, never change. Cool


Hé didn’t wanna join the evil HAT-cult if I remember it correctly, I still have the V8 avatars with no HAT protests etc

He was clearly joking or just being V8....
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December 08, 2019, 06:12:12 PM

BITCOIN / GOLD Ratio...

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BITCOIN / GOLD Ratio currently stands at 5.15 and has risen +2.97% in the last week of trading against gold. (against the SP500 it risen +2.52%)


Source: https://twitter.com/BitcoiF/status/1203726525352349697
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December 08, 2019, 06:12:49 PM

I don't want to mention any alts, but it is a bit strange that AA starts talking about multiple chains forming the "Internet of money". Here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VG-zln3TUg

The only current weakness I see in bitcoin is a potential for a sudden fee increase, which should be alleviated by the LN in principle, however, it's the details that matter. Not a problem right now.

VCs will be hyping other chains, that's beyond the question. SEC tackled telegram for now, but there will be others.
Anybody knows if is there a vehicle that trades bitcoin dominance? It could be an interesting hedge trade.
PlanB, incidentally, thinks that dominance is about to spike higher ("Guess, what's next" twit)
https://twitter.com/100trillionUSD/status/1203012308513017856
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December 08, 2019, 06:17:38 PM
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IIRC the first hats were not specifically intended to be worn as an avatar. Maybe xhomerx could clear this point and... WTF was he thinking when he came up with the idea Tongue

Also was it Hairy the first one to wear his (Genesis) hat as an avatar or was it Rosewater? Were it had been Rosewater that would surely reinforce the cap-itulation meaning of it.

There are also some semi hat related anecdotes like when Vod decided it was a good idea to poke/mess (presumably just for fun) with Mic and it was like the first time a thread out of WO got quickly filled with hats: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5065375.0

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December 08, 2019, 06:18:47 PM
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Thanks so far for your suggestions and opinions on the secure, inheritable seed storage topic.
It's a hell of effort for me to quote everybody's contribution i'm referring to here, so i round it up in this unilateral post, to avoid to totally mess it up.

I now consider storing one half of every seed in a place where i must have at least personal contact to a human to access the seedwords.
That means safe (yuck) or notary. Maybe both, half seedwords in the safe, passphrase at the notary for post mortem inheritance reasons or something like that.

JJG: I didn't tell the bank's employee anything about crypto, and i would i never do so. I just mentioned folded, single paper sheets and little items. I guess i will keep the ledger(s) at home for everyday use and to follow the two-level anti-thug advice of sacrificing a few % of my crypto (by mindrust, if i'm correct), which was also brilliant.

Somebody was curious about the country, it's Austria (the one without the kangaroos).

The finger is doing nice, at least no signs of infection and i can use it for typing again. This should end well, and i regard that as a warning by the universe, to follow safety standards with cutting tools. Even worse, i have a pair of kevlar gloves lying around. I should have used them. Once i rammed the base of my thumb into a sharp sheet metal edge, which got it cut half off, with a lot more blood, hospital, stitches and temporary nerve damage involved. Doctors did beautyful work, ten years later the scar is very light and thin.

Thanks for the love, practical tips and support so far #nohomo

I'm in read-only mode for the rest of the day or two, need to make a few wood/metal rings (jewellery) soon, which still needs quite some research and experimentation, and also craft another two of those bitcointalk anniversary ebony poker chips, using a different process.

There's better than that... Satoshi labs have BIP (and have implemented there own version) for a key sharing on the trezor:
https://blog.trezor.io/shamir-backup-the-revolution-of-private-keys-backup-is-here-858687ed7fe7

As soon as I saw that, I bought the model-T (already have the one, but is unsupported on that).

Now I have mailed out shares to my most trusted friends and family, signed and sealed with an explanation letter so that if anything happened to me it can all be recovered. Made A LOT of shares and most of them are required for recovery.
Originally I did split the seed words, but that does mean the number words required to be guessed is greatly reduced. I my case they had 2/3rds of the words, so just 1/3rd had to be guessed. With the Shamir there's no worries there.

Just would be nice for others to implement the BIP!

That's a nice feature. Unfortunately, I have the One, so I can't use it. Good to know it can be done with the T.

Another thing I want to add to the discussion is that, when it comes to passphrase choice and seed storage/protection, we should apply the KISS principle. Keep things simple and don't overdo it. There was a time when I devised a complex method for generating ultra-strong passphrases, using a random number generator with its own numerical seed, that pointed to words in a book. It made me feel very secure, until there came a time when I had to unlock the data, at which point I realised I had totally forgotten the passphrase or how to generate it! Fortunately, that was long before I got into Bitcoin, it had to do with file encryption. Was a lesson for me, not to be too paranoid, while ensuring the passphrases are strong.
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December 08, 2019, 06:24:29 PM

IIRC the first hats were not specifically intended to be worn as an avatar. Maybe xhomerx could clear this point and... WTF was he thinking when he came up with the idea Tongue

Also was it Hairy the first one to wear his (Genesis) hat as an avatar or was it Rosewater? Were it had been Rosewater that would surely reinforce the cap-itulation meaning of it.

There are also some semi hat related anecdotes like when Vod decided it was a good idea to poke/mess (presumably just for fun) with Mic and it was like the first time a thread out of WO got quickly filled with hats: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5065375.0



I actually liked that thread a lot Cheesy and the HAT invasion though JJF***G must appear in his classic style of-course  Tongue
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5065375.msg47695534#msg47695534

But overal it was a fun moment at that time ....
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December 08, 2019, 06:28:58 PM

IIRC the first hats were not specifically intended to be worn as an avatar. Maybe xhomerx could clear this point and... WTF was he thinking when he came up with the idea Tongue
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5065375.0



I think his exact words to me were "here, put this on"
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Last edit: December 08, 2019, 06:54:51 PM by bitserve

IIRC the first hats were not specifically intended to be worn as an avatar. Maybe xhomerx could clear this point and... WTF was he thinking when he came up with the idea Tongue
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5065375.0



I think his exact words to me were "here, put this on"

Yup but... Was it figuratively? I really don't know. I really can't remember nor am completely sure after re-reading. Maybe my retrospective perception is wrong.

In any case it would be very interesting to hear what xhomerx was exactly thinking when he started it all Smiley
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December 08, 2019, 06:43:19 PM

From my recollection, this early hat history conversation goes back before October 15, 2018 - because I believe that the main reason that V8 was razzing Hairy so much about hat eating was because months earlier Hairy had said that he would eat his hat if there was certain BTC price movement.  I can't remember exactly the bold prediction, so I went back and looked at Hairy's posts for many months before October 15, but I could not find such post.. so I cannot exactly refresh my memory with an actual post.

This possibly?

Are we crashing upwards again? This is confusing, isn't it?

A full month continually crashing and we are only a few thousands below ATH. Yeah.

We are bottoming. If not this week, then next week.  I’ll eat my hat if we are still bumping $12k in late January.

Peter R:  take your shitty altcoin somewhere else.  Maybe the Ripple fools will buy it.

Holy shit!!!!  I think that may be the originating promise of a hat-eating post.  I had only gone back searching to about April 2018 looking for some kind of thread of that discussion.

Of course, members sometimes would promise all kinds silly-ass shit, including infofront promising to suck everyone's dick if BTC reached $100k by the end of 2018, rosewater started to post food pics of sandwiches and calamari, which may even kind of relate to Adam historically promising to buy beers at various points that the BTC price moved that seemed to have motivated Bob into his beer-buying promise if BTC sunk below a certain price and various other BTC price-related promises like that. 

Regarding the Hairy hat eating promise, I had recalled that there had been at least a little bit of back and forth about Hairy saying that he would eat his hat (but I did not see any back and forth around January 11), yet the hat eating promise seemed to have been part of the motivation for why V8 was playing upon that kind of a hat-eating theme - which thereafter resulted in XhomerX10 offering hats to various members (not necessarily for the purpose of eating, but instead based on some of the posts of MicGeese saying that he had been buying bitcoin related hats).... so the eating-of hats promise component kind of got lost in the way the hat-obsession tradition evolved.  Go figure.
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December 08, 2019, 06:51:19 PM

IIRC the first hats were not specifically intended to be worn as an avatar. Maybe xhomerx could clear this point and... WTF was he thinking when he came up with the idea Tongue

Also was it Hairy the first one to wear his (Genesis) hat as an avatar or was it Rosewater? Were it had been Rosewater that would surely reinforce the cap-itulation meaning of it.

There are also some semi hat related anecdotes like when Vod decided it was a good idea to poke/mess (presumably just for fun) with Mic and it was like the first time a thread out of WO got quickly filled with hats: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5065375.0



I actually liked that thread a lot Cheesy and the HAT invasion though JJF***G must appear in his classic style of-course  Tongue
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5065375.msg47695534#msg47695534

But overal it was a fun moment at that time ....

Really funny yeah. Somehow the thread got locked after several JJG walls of text and before I could post some memes about Vod "throwing gas to a fire.gif".

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