You think 100 mill is a lot, how cute....
Even if you have 20%, 80% has majority, and as part of the majority, you can step the fuck off your high horse.
You have zero ideas as to what to do but you are raising trivial Bs on someone actually making a difference. You are now single handedly (with help from you side kick) to devalue your supposed investment.
Please dump your qora so we can be rid of you. We will happily buy it.
Exactly. CfB hardy had 1% of all Nxt coins but it's impossible to overestimate what he's done for the coin. In crypto world nobody gives a fuck how much coins one ownes. You know why we are against you? Yes, you are doing something for qora. But what you doing now is hurt qora. People support you, not because of you promote your NXT AE project, actually most of them against your doing this, but because you doing something for qora before. You can't be the leader of qora community any more. Because you can't lead all of us, you are split the community. If you really want to do something for qora, it's the right time to leave this community. |
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Dear Agestorzrxx,
Please relay this message to Dzarmush for me since he is ignoring me.
If it's true like he said, he has the backing of the majority of Qora owners (He mentioned a lot of Qora owners contacted him), then he would have no problem accepting my challenge to determine whether he has the backing of the majority of Qora stakeholders or not.
Either he lied, or I lied. And a poll or survey among Qora owners will show which one of us is telling the truth.
What I'm seeing now is a lot of NXT guys are backing him, and they're making a play to take over QORA leadership. I resent that, and we will not let that happen.
If he truly believe everything he said, please ask him to accept my challenge for a QORA owners poll, so we can come to a decision on who the next Qora spokesperson is.
If not, he really should get the fuck out since he has no business representing Qora.
Thanks, Agetorzrxx
qoraKnight,first you can do some things to QORA!agestorzrxx is from china!me too!but agestorzrxx did not attend the qora IPO in the past,i think so! Don't like a idiot. Of course I am a original stakeholders. Looks like you know all the people who attend the IPO. That's funny. |
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it will promote qora too. nxt fans will buy qora through nxt AE. We can regard nxt as a friend , not enemy. We need to tolerance.
No one treat NXT as an enemy. Actually lots of NXT supporters are trolls in qora early stage. And some of them make the rumor that qora is a clone of NXT. We don't think it can promote qora. That‘s the reason we against it. We don't want the price of qora be decided by NXT. |
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How do you think the Qora AE's future?
AE has no borders.
I always believe AE is usless. Only Cross Blockchain trading is making sense. There is nothing different between OTC Exchange and the AE. And if the exchange reopen, both of them are useless. |
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Someone please do me a favor and repost this message, so Dzarmush can see my challenge.
If Dzarmush firmly believes that majority of Qora owners are on his side and agree with what he is doing, why is he so afraid of accepting my challenge and conduct a survey and poll among Qora stakeholders and investors? Calling me names and ignoring me will not resolve our difference. Open dialogue is the only answer here. If Dzarmush truly wants to be the leader, he should un-ban me, so we can have an open dialogue and a debate on this topic.
Now having said that, I think it's fine if Dzarmush had worked and promoted his NXT AE gateway project in a separate thread, but that is not the case here. He has been actively promoting his project as if it's sanctioned by the Qora community, and he even mentioned that he has already registered a domain name for his NXT AE Gateway. If he has done everything in the NXT thread, I'd have no problem with that. But he was doing the promotion in the Qora thread (especially when he is being seen as the official announcer and spokesperson of Qora), and that really pissed me off.
Here is the things - I've been in talk with several Qora investors, and all of them told me they would never want to see Qora being traded on NXT AE as a NXT asset for the following reasons:
1. Most of us devoted Qora supporters believe one day Qora will overtake NXT, so we don't want Qora to be tainted by the image of having existed as a NXT asset, and being seen as Nxt's little buddy or sidekick from the very start. We don't want to have that "tag" for our beloved Qora.
2. We simply want nothing to do with NXT because we don't own any and we don't care about NXT project. On the other hand, every single person who has advocated Qora being listed on NXT AE has a vested interest in NXT, hence they have conflicted interests.
I believe a poll or survey will settle the argument once for all. It's reasonable, and it's the only way to show what the Qora owners really want.
Stop please.Please don't make the internal struggle. Dude, he is trying to stop Dzarmush to promote NXT in this thread. |
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People who have many nxt want to trade at ae, people who have less nxt don't want to trade at ae.
So that's the problem.
There is nothing wrong to trade at ae. He can go to the NXT thread do such things. The wrong is used qora's main thread to promote NXT. And he act as he can represent the whole qora community. |
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So that's all. Nxt is good , no need promote nxt ae on this thread.
Lots of Qora holders said they want someone to issue Qora asset on AE so they can trade Qora there. Lots of NXTers said they want to have Qora listed on AE so they can buy into Qora without selling Nxt. That's the only reason I did it. People want — people get. But then one asshole with several puppets started posting lots of crap. That's all. Also I don't understand what does it mean: "promote AE in Qora thread". Nobody promotes AE. Instead it's a good way to promote Qora outside of Qora thread. Nxt has a huge community, but you can't just post Qora related info on Nxt forum or in Nxt thread. Now when we have Qora asset we can post something in Nxt threads once in a while: news, stats, whatever. I think you are right , but the QoraKnight is also right. Both of you want to make the qora better. About the ae, I think many people are in silient , I know many people don't want to trade on ae. What happen to you are similar to me, previously I want to build a forum for qora, so take sometime to build the qora.club. But it seems that most people don't like this, so I stop support the qora.club. I think there is something wrong on me , What I learn from this is that before we do something, we should consult with community. I think you can understand what I said. No, this asshole isn't right. You've got the point when you say you don't want Qora to be traded yet, because we all know you're a normal person and active member. But this dumbass is just trolling everybody and trying to dictate what we have or have not to do. He doesn't understand the whole concept of decentralization and trying to control everything by stating he has 20% coins. Which is also total bullshit of course. You stupid asshole, he said his group own about 20% coins. There is nothing wrong. |
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So that's all. Nxt is good , no need promote nxt ae on this thread.
Lots of Qora holders said they want someone to issue Qora asset on AE so they can trade Qora there. Lots of NXTers said they want to have Qora listed on AE so they can buy into Qora without selling Nxt. That's the only reason I did it. People want — people get. But then one asshole with several puppets started posting lots of crap. That's all. Also I don't understand what does it mean: "promote AE in Qora thread". Nobody promotes AE. Instead it's a good way to promote Qora outside of Qora thread. Nxt has a huge community, but you can't just post Qora related info on Nxt forum or in Nxt thread. Now when we have Qora asset we can post something in Nxt threads once in a while: news, stats, whatever. You are a liar. Most of them who want to issue Qora asset are NXT guys. You can issue Qora asset, but please go fuck out to NXT thread. As QoraKnight said this thread has been hijacked by Nxt supporters. Just think! If QORA is good enough, what you are afraid of? We are not afraid of anything.This is qora thread, we should focus on develop qora, not promote the stupid NXT AE things. |
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About the ae, I think many people are in silient , I know many people don't want to trade on ae.
Yes, only the idiot will trade qora on ae. |
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So that's all. Nxt is good , no need promote nxt ae on this thread.
Lots of Qora holders said they want someone to issue Qora asset on AE so they can trade Qora there. Lots of NXTers said they want to have Qora listed on AE so they can buy into Qora without selling Nxt. That's the only reason I did it. People want — people get. But then one asshole with several puppets started posting lots of crap. That's all. Also I don't understand what does it mean: "promote AE in Qora thread". Nobody promotes AE. Instead it's a good way to promote Qora outside of Qora thread. Nxt has a huge community, but you can't just post Qora related info on Nxt forum or in Nxt thread. Now when we have Qora asset we can post something in Nxt threads once in a while: news, stats, whatever. You are a liar. Most of them who want to issue Qora asset are NXT guys. You can issue Qora asset, but please go fuck out to NXT thread. As QoraKnight said this thread has been hijacked by Nxt supporters. |
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Dear Agestorzrxx,
Please relay this message to Dzarmush for me since he is ignoring me.
If it's true like he said, he has the backing of the majority of Qora owners (He mentioned a lot of Qora owners contacted him), then he would have no problem accepting my challenge to determine whether he has the backing of the majority of Qora stakeholders or not.
Either he lied, or I lied. And a poll or survey among Qora owners will show which one of us is telling the truth.
What I'm seeing now is a lot of NXT guys are backing him, and they're making a play to take over QORA leadership. I resent that, and we will not let that happen.
If he truly believe everything he said, please ask him to accept my challenge for a QORA owners poll, so we can come to a decision on who the next Qora spokesperson is.
If not, he really should get the fuck out since he has no business representing Qora.
Thanks, Agetorzrxx
haha, he is ignoring me too. Of course he is lied. A poll can explain everything, but he can't face it. |
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To the Qora Community:
I'm making an announcement as a representative of the majority group.
1. I am proposing that we conduct a poll or a survey among current Qora owners (stakeholders) to fill the position of Qora spokesperson (the position is currently hijacked by Dzarmush). That is our first priority. Until then, we do not recognize Dzarmush's status and authority, and we firmly reject all the decisions made by Dzarmush on our behalf. A poll or survey can be conducted via PM, or via a built-in poll system implemented by the Qora dev.
2. It is NOT Qora community's official position to endorse NXT or NXT-related trading platform. Qora will not be officially listed or sanctioned on NXT AE.
3. Qora thread belongs to the Qora community. It's all about Qora and Qora development. Promotion of any other coin in Qora thread is banned.
4. It is our belief that Qora community should be run based on democratic rules -- polls and surveys should be conducted, and the voice of the majority should be heard. In other words, majority decides. I am sorry that some people seem to have problems understanding the rules of democracy.
5. We will follow Qora dev's guidelines and follow Qora dev's instructions, and only contact new exchanges when the current client is deemed 100% stable by the core qora developer.
6. Dzarmush is rejected by the majority of Qora owners as the spokesperson of Qora currency. He does not speak for us under any official capacity. Anything he says or does is of his own opinion and does not reflect Qora's official position.
Totally agree. |
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Qora community needs policy of checks and balances. I can understand both sides of conflict - they try to bring value to Qora.
From the clash of opinions emerges the truth. Let's see how it will be.
I saw some gleams among tons of crap he posted, but for me it looks like a weak attempt to legitimize himself by saying something more or less meaningful along with 99% of bullshit. If anyone with more than 3 posts on the forum think it's a wrong move to get to Nxt AE please let me know. The only reason I'm doing it is lots of requests from Qora holders I received yesterday. Really? If lots of requests from Qora holders, they will defend you in this thread. But most of people who agree you is just the nxt guys. Converse, several original stakeholders has against you and you like a dictator and ignore the majority voice. |
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Way better   I should have followed Smaragda's advice much earlier. You coward can't face the reality. |
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@Qoraknight
I'm sorry to have to interfere again with this little putsch you got going on but: you need to legitimize yourself, not dzarmush. If you're not willing to do that I'll just assume you're some kind of Patrick Bateman behind a sockpuppet account.
Mrr, I told you I represent the majority and I can prove that.
With a poll.Do you have problem with that? We will only be polling the early stakeholders of Qora. (in either case, I can show I represent the 20% interest). The question is - Does Dzarmush accept my challenge or not? Yes or NO? If I can prove that I represent 20% interest and it shows we're the majority group, will you shut up and leave?I am a original stakeholder and I am totally agree with you. if there is necessary, i can represent most of Chinese original stakeholders, as i know most of them against the NXT AE things. |
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Stop promote NXT in this thread!
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The stupid ass just use qora main thread to promote NXT. This is disgusting!  |
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O, disagreements in community are growing. It's easy to criticize someone and do nothing.
QoraKnight, do you have estimated development and promotion plan for Qora from your point of view?
Buratino, Personally, I'd like to follow Qora dev's original plan (ie. putting off marketing/trading at the moment... give the dev more time to sort things out).. the key is DON'T RUSH ANYTHING and don't do anything prematurely. Look, if we had taken the dev's advice and don't rush to trade in the first place, a lot of negative press surrounding Qora could have been avoided. Now dzarmush wanted to take it one step and listed qora on NXT AE, and I've just informed him NO, he does not have the approval and backing of the majority. But does he listen? Clearly not. What we need first is to implement a democratic system where all voice can be heard, and stop relying on an individual to make all decisions. What we need is a built-in poll system (dev mentioned he was working on it) inside Qora client. Before that, no major decision should be made. period. Bro, the stupid ass think you are my sockpuppets  He think he is smart, but he is really stupid. |
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THE FIRST QORA GATEWAY
NXT ASSET EXCHANGE Account: NXT-SSGH-KCZX-YBJQ-7NKWE Asset Id: 2950240446121913764 DepositsSend any amount of Qora over 10,000.00 to QRhPStz6C4C4MBgC9kmbUbJRQdGsZqe1EK and PM to dzarmush https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=176058 your NXT address in Reed Solomon Format (for example: NXT-SSGH-KCZX-YBJQ-7NKWE) Fees0.5% Deposits 0.5% Withdrawals Minimum deposit10,000.00 Qora Minimum withdrawal10,000 QORA Redemption timeMaximum 24 hours Minimum 1 hour P.S. I bought a domain name, but haven't built a website. Will make a simple page withing a couple of days. P.P.S. I'll contact Anon136 after (if) I got first 10M Qora. |
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The smart people will waiting the exchange reopens. Only the fool will sell qora use AE.  The were 3 assholes in this thread today, all from China. Looks like 1 person with 3 sockpuppets. Be respected. You are the stupid ass to promote NXT here. Do something usfull really help qora not the stupid NXT AE. |
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