[ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source

[Agestorzrxx]

O, disagreements in community are growing. It's easy to criticize someone and do nothing.
QoraKnight, do you have estimated development and promotion plan for Qora from your point of view?

Buratino,

Personally, I'd like to follow Qora dev's original plan (ie. putting off marketing/trading at the moment... give the dev more time to sort things out).. the key is DON'T RUSH ANYTHING and don't do anything prematurely.

Look, if we had taken the dev's advice and don't rush to trade in the first place, a lot of negative press surrounding Qora could have been avoided.

Now dzarmush wanted to take it one step and listed qora on NXT AE, and I've just informed him NO, he does not have the approval and backing of the majority.

But does he listen? Clearly not.  What we need first is to implement a democratic system where all voice can be heard, and stop relying on an individual to make all decisions.

What we need is a built-in poll system (dev mentioned he was working on it) inside Qora client. Before that, no major decision should be made.

period.

Bro, the stupid ass think you are my sockpuppets
He think he is smart, but he is really stupid.

[Agestorzrxx]

The stupid ass just use qora main thread to promote NXT.
This is disgusting!
 

[ivanlabrie]

I'm about to ignore this fucktard...qora knight, pulease.
No kind of fanboyism is good, not without common sense.

[dzarmush]

By the way, check this out https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=522102.msg6873214#msg6873214

That's why I didn't want to operate a gateway in the first place. Too many inadequates around.

[Mrrr]

@Qoraknight

I'm sorry to have to interfere again with this little putsch you got going on but: you need to legitimize yourself, not dzarmush. If you're not willing to do that I'll just assume you're some kind of Patrick Bateman behind a sockpuppet account.

[Agestorzrxx]

Stop promote NXT in this thread!

[QoraKnight]

Dzarmush,

I wish to make my intentions and plans clear to you and everyone.  This is what I'm trying to accomplish and achieve here --

1. I, and the group I represent, vehemently oppose your plan to list Qora on NXT AE.  Right now, you're being seen as the official spokesperson and leader of Qora, so what you say here is like the official announcement.  We want to make you know that we do not like that at all, and we want you to stop promoting your gateway here in Qora thread. Do you agree? Yes or NO?

2. We hope that the Qora community will not be run by a dictator or as a one-man show. The entire community needs to be involved in the decision-making process. In order to make that happen, some sort of polling or surveying method must be decided and implemented. Do you agree to my proposal to form a more democratic community where voice of majority will be heard?

3. I am not trying to judge you or trying to guess whether you have a hidden agenda.  But it is my observation that you're active in all of the IPO-based coins threads, and you have made attempts to gain leadership role in all of the instance.

So I'd like to make it clear to you that it is the will and decision of the majority of Qora stakeholders to dethrone you as the official spokesperson, we wish to make it clear to forum members that you do not represent Qora, you do not speak for Qora, and you do not have the support or backing of the majority of Qora members.  I would not ask you to leave, but you must understand your role here, dzarmush.

[QoraKnight]

@Qoraknight

I'm sorry to have to interfere again with this little putsch you got going on but: you need to legitimize yourself, not dzarmush. If you're not willing to do that I'll just assume you're some kind of Patrick Bateman behind a sockpuppet account.

Mrr,

I told you I represent the majority and I can prove that.

With a poll or survey conducted by the dev as the neutral 3rd party.

Do you have problem with that?

We will only be polling the early stakeholders of Qora.
(in either case, I can show I represent the 20% interest).

The question is - Does Dzarmush accept my challenge or not? Yes or NO?

If I can prove that I represent 20% interest and it shows we're the majority group, will you shut up and leave?

[Agestorzrxx]

@Qoraknight

I'm sorry to have to interfere again with this little putsch you got going on but: you need to legitimize yourself, not dzarmush. If you're not willing to do that I'll just assume you're some kind of Patrick Bateman behind a sockpuppet account.

Mrr,

I told you I represent the majority and I can prove that.

With a poll.

Do you have problem with that?

We will only be polling the early stakeholders of Qora.
(in either case, I can show I represent the 20% interest).

The question is - Does Dzarmush accept my challenge or not? Yes or NO?

If I can prove that I represent 20% interest and it shows we're the majority group, will you shut up and leave?

I am a original stakeholder and I am totally agree with you.
if there is necessary, i can represent most of Chinese original stakeholders, as i know most of them against the NXT AE things.

[dzarmush]

Way better  



I should have followed Smaragda's advice much earlier.

[Buratino]

Qora community needs policy of checks and balances. I can understand both sides of conflict - they try to bring value to Qora.
From the clash of opinions emerges the truth. Let's see how it will be.

[Agestorzrxx]

Way better  



I should have followed Smaragda's advice much earlier.

You coward can't face the reality.

[QoraKnight]

Agestorzrxx,

Welcome to the majority group.   I don't know how big a share you hold, but I can say it without a doubt, between you and us, we represent the majority of Qora owners.

Dzarmush,

Stop beating around the bush and answer my challenge -

If majority of Qora investors want you to step down (and relinquish your role as the official spokesperson of Qora) and cease promoting NXT AE gateway in this thread, will you abide by the will and decision of the majority owners?

A simple Yes or No will suffice.


PS:

Dzarmush, I'm tired of fighting you. So please answer this simple question -- Do you agree or not that Qora should be run as a demoratic community with democratic rules (poll all the members' opinion and take other people's opinions into account) before a decision is made?

IE. Whether to promote NXT AE or not?

@Qoraknight

I'm sorry to have to interfere again with this little putsch you got going on but: you need to legitimize yourself, not dzarmush. If you're not willing to do that I'll just assume you're some kind of Patrick Bateman behind a sockpuppet account.

Mrr,

I told you I represent the majority and I can prove that.

With a poll.

Do you have problem with that?

We will only be polling the early stakeholders of Qora.
(in either case, I can show I represent the 20% interest).

The question is - Does Dzarmush accept my challenge or not? Yes or NO?

If I can prove that I represent 20% interest and it shows we're the majority group, will you shut up and leave?

I am a original stakeholder and I am totally agree with you.

[Mrrr]

Ai, dzarmush got you on ignore. Now we'll never know the outcome of this clash of titans. Think I might do the same, since you keep refusing to show yourself. Good night.

[QoraKnight]

Ai, dzarmush got you on ignore. Now we'll never know the outcome of this clash of titans. Think I might do the same, since you keep refusing to show yourself. Good night.

Mrr,

Are you an early stakeholder?  If not, exactly how much Qora do you own?  If you dont own any qora, you really have no say in this.  I already told you that I can prove I am a big stakeholder of Qora and I represent the 20% interest if we just conduct a poll.

Are you guys afraid of the challenge?

[dzarmush]

Qora community needs policy of checks and balances. I can understand both sides of conflict - they try to bring value to Qora.
From the clash of opinions emerges the truth. Let's see how it will be.

I saw some gleams among tons of crap he posted, but for me it looks like a weak attempt to legitimize himself by saying something more or less meaningful along with 99% of bullshit.

If anyone with more than 3 posts on the forum think it's a wrong move to get to Nxt AE please let me know. The only reason I'm doing it is lots of requests from Qora holders I received yesterday.

[dzarmush]

In the meanwhile first trades occured!

https://nxtblocks.info/#section/assets_exchange/2950240446121913764

[Agestorzrxx]

Qora community needs policy of checks and balances. I can understand both sides of conflict - they try to bring value to Qora.
From the clash of opinions emerges the truth. Let's see how it will be.

I saw some gleams among tons of crap he posted, but for me it looks like a weak attempt to legitimize himself by saying something more or less meaningful along with 99% of bullshit.

If anyone with more than 3 posts on the forum think it's a wrong move to get to Nxt AE please let me know. The only reason I'm doing it is lots of requests from Qora holders I received yesterday.

Really?
 If lots of requests from Qora holders, they will defend you in this thread.
But most of people who agree you is just the nxt guys.
Converse, several original stakeholders has against you and you like a dictator and ignore the majority voice.

[peled1986]

so many trolls in this thread - qora is going to the moon  

[QoraKnight]

To the Qora Community:

I'm making an announcement as a representative of the majority group.

1. I am proposing that we conduct a poll or a survey among current Qora owners (stakeholders) to fill the position of Qora spokesperson (the position is currently hijacked by Dzarmush). That is our first priority. Until then, we do not recognize Dzarmush's status and authority, and we firmly reject all the decisions made by Dzarmush on our behalf. A poll or survey can be conducted via PM, or via a built-in poll system implemented by the Qora dev.

2. It is NOT Qora community's official position to endorse NXT or NXT-related trading platform. Qora will not be officially listed or sanctioned on NXT AE.

3. Qora thread belongs to the Qora community. It's all about Qora and Qora development. Promotion of any other coin in Qora thread is banned.

4. It is our belief that Qora community should be run based on democratic rules -- polls and surveys should be conducted, and the voice of the majority should be heard. In other words, majority decides. I am sorry that some people seem to have problems understanding the rules of democracy.

5. We will follow Qora dev's guidelines and follow Qora dev's instructions, and only contact new exchanges when the current client is deemed 100% stable by the core qora developer.

6. Dzarmush is rejected by the majority of Qora owners as the spokesperson of Qora currency.  He does not speak for us under any official capacity. Anything he says or does is of his own opinion and does not reflect Qora's official position.