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12481  Economy / Speculation / Re: POLL : ETF approval or disapproval on: February 28, 2017, 12:20:40 PM
Nothing but death and destruction awaits us all.

Other than that considering the amount of activity with amendments and meetings and so on, I don't think there's any way of guessing. Some people seem to think it's a gloomy sign. It looks reactive and constructive to me.
12482  Economy / Speculation / Re: Chinese EFT Expectations on: February 28, 2017, 02:49:15 AM
This place is a black hole when it comes to Chinese sentiment. I've been consistently amazed at how little information people have about what happens there. No one could even tell me the mechanics of how exchanges were operating during the Chinese 'ban' phase yet I assume tens of thousands of Chinese people were happily using them right then.
12483  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Will Trump survive the first period as president of the US? on: February 28, 2017, 02:18:47 AM
They've got a few years to dig someone out. Anyone other than Hillary would've walked it. Let's see if Donald makes a success of things. If things are looking up for the man in the street then perhaps he won't be inclined to ever go back to bog standard politics. Everyone else will look staid in comparison, then again perhaps people will be yearning for that by then.
12484  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 28, 2017, 01:56:37 AM
Where are all our bear friends from that time? No more Lambi?

I wonder what'll come out of the woodwork when there's the inevitable fall and lull. Presumably it'll be with everything, price, adoption, a notch or two higher and thusly a tad harder to scream death and gloom. I'm sure they'll find something somewhere.
12485  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 28, 2017, 01:11:30 AM
Or the SEC are giving them every chance they can to make amendments so that it can be approved. It can be looked at either way.

Though I'm not convinced any ETF'll pass, I vote for the latter. And I wonder how much each of these amendments costs the applicants in legal time. It must be pretty substantial.
12486  Other / Meta / Re: [POLL] Do you have signatures enabled? on: February 28, 2017, 01:09:06 AM
Enabled. I don't mind the advertising. I particularly like browsing over the personalised signatures filled with peoples' own projects. There's some interesting stuff out there.
12487  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Will Trump survive the first period as president of the US? on: February 27, 2017, 11:19:36 PM
No doubt thousands of minds will be devoted to finding some way of removing him, but he's proven time and again that he is not like other human beings. I guess campaign bluster is one thing and you can't get away with the same in office but I'm sure he'll have a jolly good try.
12488  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoins in 2009 on: February 27, 2017, 08:50:33 PM
Some forum background here - https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/BitcoinTalk

This is the initial Bitcoin forum - http://bitcoin.sourceforge.net/boards/index.php but it's not accessible. I'm sure it used to be but perhaps I'm imagining that. If it was in my lifetime I'm sure someone would've preserved it.
12489  Economy / Speculation / Re: Poll: What Will Bitcoin Price be at the End of Year 2017? on: February 27, 2017, 08:47:23 PM
How on Earth are we supposed to supply proof?

There might be some epic moments in the middle bit, but my guess is we finish the year in the $1300-$1500 range.

That's if there isn't any forkageddon in which case it might be zero, or rather two chains that are both zero.
12490  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 27, 2017, 07:30:15 PM
Proportions are pretty wrong / bad on that makeup or costume of that guy... It doesn't respect the 1.6 golden ratio rule! Cheesy Cheesy

Where the human race is going, we don't need no stinking Golden Ratio. But we will have better foundation and blusher.
12491  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 27, 2017, 07:25:37 PM
Because... you will not want the entire human race to look in a certain way that doesn't feel "elegant" ...

Do u want humanity to look in the future like this cute little guy??[/b]  Cheesy  Cheesy

I've been watching episodes of the Outer Limits recently and one showed me the future of humanity by sticking a little fella in an evolution machine.

I see no reason to doubt that this is how every single one of us will look in a few thousand years.



But with 'like' buttons embedded on the glans and clitoris.
12492  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoins in 2009 on: February 27, 2017, 05:36:28 PM
Get yourself a copy of 'Digital Gold' by Nathaniel Popper. The latter stuff is kind of irrelevant, but it's very good at covering the earliest stages.

And you're right. It was very extremely quiet for quite some time. Via passages in that book you could tell that Satoshi got very excited if one person showed the slightest interest.
12493  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What was Milo Yiannopoulos disappointed to find at the prom? on: February 27, 2017, 05:33:54 PM
Any forms of sexual intercourse as long as it is not done within the bonds of marriage between man and woman is not moral and is not okay.

For hundreds of thousands of years, and millions beforehand, our ancestors were cheerfully rutting away with zero concept of marriage. Does that mean they all went to hell?
12494  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The White House bars several news organisations from briefing on: February 25, 2017, 03:07:29 PM
They did the right thing. The mainstream media is behaving in a shamelessly biased manner and spreading rumors and falsehood against Trump and his administration. These guys need to be taught a lesson.

And Donald and friends aren't? Good lord.

The media are a bunch of assholes. Donald's team are as well. The difference is that Team Donald doesn't have the balls to back up the balls they spout. A robust and level headed bunch would counter whatever they feel are falsehoods. What this lot are doing are blustering and threatening and sticking their fingers in their eyes and shouting 'la la la la.'

That's not going to wash.
12495  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2017, 02:23:47 PM
Absolutely no way ETF goes through.

But you think it will have an effect? Why should it makes btc rate drop? Any correct trader knows the chances are low no?

Stranger things have happened. And that big meeting they had a couple of weeks ago are not the actions of something that's been outright rejected. They want to know more.

I think quite a few people have bought in with the expectation of a further rise if it's approved. Maybe they'll throw in the towel. There'll be a dip. A full on crash is doubtful as ETF fever is only part of the general uptrend that's been going for a long time now.

And there are two more applications to consider in quick succession after the Winklevii one. I doubt they'll have the gloss, but perhaps they'll add some refinements. Overall though I think rejections will be down to Bitcoin itself and no applicant can do anything about that.
12496  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2017, 02:17:50 PM
The meeting is 11 of March right?
That means we have exactly 2 weeks from now. Is this normal for USA to hold such meetings on Suturday? it's working day?? and result will be same day or need also wait?

That's the decision deadline. There's no associated meeting. They might already have made up their minds. Falling on a Saturday is a bit of a weird move indeed. I've read elsewhere that no ETF has ever passed by doing nothing, which is what some people are expecting here, and there's no way something so new and complex would pass like that either.

We'll know either way before that Saturday I expect.
12497  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: It's freaking 2017 - Do you own 1 BTC? on: February 25, 2017, 01:51:29 PM
Do you think it's safe to trade 1 btc for PayPal balance?

Nope. That's now a lot of money and Paypal is too easy when it comes to questionable behaviour. Maybe if someone has thousands of feedback for Paypal trades but other than that I wouldn't consider it for a second.

You could try cash in smaller increments or see if there's a two way ATM you can sell to.
12498  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2017, 11:57:11 AM
Same here, it felt like as if you are playing a video game and with that ATH you've killed the final boss and it's game over and credits are scrolling down the screen.

Although we are just starting I know, but this is my feelings nowadays  Sad

Uncharted territory is the main feeling I'm getting.

We got an ATH with China having effectively banned itself, though perhaps that wouldn't have been achieved without that happening, and it's sitting quietly at this price level with little attention elsewhere.

Does this mean 2014-15 beat the exuberance out of everyone? or maybe they expect much, much more and this is a small and overdue step towards it.
12499  Other / Politics & Society / The White House bars several news organisations from briefing on: February 25, 2017, 12:49:10 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/24/media-blocked-white-house-briefing-sean-spicer

Steve bannon - the press is the opposition and 'should keep its mouth shut'.

Trump tweet - the press is 'the enemy of the people'.

This is a rather uncool move. I wonder when everybody who isn't a Breitbart zombie starts to wonder what's been unleashed.
12500  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Transaction Fees are SPIKING ! on: February 24, 2017, 08:01:51 PM
To facilitate cheap and fast transactions transactional banks (aka hubs) should be established over the blockchain. These will put an end to miners' hegemony and mayhem in respect to which transactions should be included into the blockchain and at which price (i.e. fee). Some people will obviously get up in arms at this idea and likely start protesting vigorously against it. I understand their butthurt but I advise them to think twice (before spurting curses and epitaphs), and first time to think how mining (i.e. essentially confirmations of transactions) is already centralized without the possibility of turning back

That feels a little like fighting centralisation by wholeheartedly embracing it in another form.

What I'd really like to see is a functioning Lightning Network just so us little guys can get a feel for what it truly is. Hopefully Litecoin might develop that.

It's also said that we can have a Bitcoin one without Segwit, albeit with vulnerabilities. Perhaps someone should knock something up and let us play with small amounts knowing what the risks are.
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