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12641  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: AntMiner S2 1TH/s Miner (1w/GH/s) on: April 26, 2014, 01:57:58 AM

I downloaded that program and the Bitmain.img file in the quotes but My win32 disk Imager program doesn't offer any option to format. I can format in windows explorer under fat32 I used "Default Unit Size" as Allocation unit size optionquick format checked. I tried to do this to one miner and it worked! Only after i bought a new micro sd card, I think re-writing the micro sd a bunch of times corrupted it. I'll try the same on the other two now.

OK Update.. Good news all 3 1TH/s miners are hashing, the problem was with the Micro SD cards. 3 new Verbatim 8gb cards & it works.
If you SSH into the OS and do a shutdown prior to powering down, you will greatly reduce the chances of trashing your SD card. The problem is likely to happen when you power off while a program is writing data to the file system. MBP Bitfury rigs delivered last year also had the same problem. Of course, getting good SD cards like you did also helps a lot.

Has anybody figured out why this is happening? I can't find anything in the OS that writes to the file system.

12642  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BCN] Bytecoin (CPU-mining, true anonymity) on: April 26, 2014, 01:56:18 AM
Ring signatures are not new. I didnt claim they were. I'm saying cryptonote is an applied concept and BCN is the first working anonymous cryptocurrency. Even if BCN was released yesterday, they'd have already acheived more than any of the other "anonymous" cryptos have been able to.

It isn't really that different from coins with distributed mixers and not reusing addresses. I don't really follow blackcoin, but doesn't it do that?

I find "anonymous" to be a vague term and not very useful. Different systems have different properties as to what information is disclosed and to whom. How that translated to "anonymous" often depends on how it is used and what "anonymous" is taken to mean.
12643  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: US Mining Hardware Deduction/Depreciation on: April 26, 2014, 01:50:53 AM
So, here's a question... (Generally Speaking) People don't mine BTC, pools mine BTC. Individuals do 'work' for the pools. So, in this particular interpretation, the pools bear the burden of tax responsibility for having mined the coins, correct? If you were to say that because an individual actually finds the block, and thus "mines" the coins, wouldn't that make the specific individual responsible for the tax burden of the 25 BTC? I fail to see how the wording of their statement, strictly interpreted, incurs a tax burden on individual miners.

Sure it does, in your model (which is correct in my opinion), you are being paid in BTC to provide a service. This ends up having the same effect as applying the original guidance to solo mining (income at the time of mining, then capital gain/loss if and when sold).

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Based on the wording of the IRS' statement, I don't believe they really understand the process.

This is likely true to a large extent, but what you posted above does not demonstrate it.

In any case, to answer the OP, you should talk to an accountant. If the equipment has a useful life of less than a year, you do not put it on a depreciation schedule (publication 946, page 6). Even if for some reason you put it on a depreciation schedule, when you dispose of the property you can deduct the unappreciated value as a further loss. This ends up being about the same.

Finally you may be able to take a section 179 deduction for the equipment and expense it that way instead of depreciation (but again, not if it doesn't have a useful life of more than a year).

The tax laws are arbitrary and often dumb, but in this case it isn't that bad.

12644  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - a coin with strong privacy based on CryptoNote technology on: April 26, 2014, 01:31:04 AM
Many other latin languages. Esperanto has a tendancy to confuse "universal" and "latin-based".

There is broader commonality among languages than that. For example, Russian is not normally described as Latin-based, yet its terms for money and coin are also similar.

Universal is certainly not true though, you are right about that.
12645  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BCN] Bytecoin (CPU-mining, true anonymity) on: April 26, 2014, 01:24:35 AM

1. Write an entirely new cryptocurrency from scratch, incorporating an unknown (at the time) but rather brilliant cryptographic technology to secure privacy, all for the purpose of pre-mining the coin for 2 years.

We can't verify the claim that any of this happened two years ago. The earliest existence we can verify is a few months ago.

If you want to restate your claim based solely on verifiable facts, then we can address it.

BTW, ring signatures are 15 years old and Diffie-Hellman is even older. There is no new or unknown cryptography here, although that makes the actual coin more innovative (and also more trustworthy), not less. The same can be said about bitcoin.

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EDIT: Speaking of the spreadsheet, you've made numerous BCN sales to people (myself included). We assume that you mined your BCN, but nobody really knows how you're acquiring it. Additionally, nobody knows what I did with the BCN I bought from you. The mere fact that we are trading it for valuable currency means that it does have value, and other folks can easily be doing the same thing.

It is apparently becoming valuable now, I agree. That is only because of the substrate that is being built here. An unknown coin is a worthless coin, and as I said, there is no large deep web economy based on this coin. The very concept is impossible, but even if it weren't you can infer the value of the coin (and therefore infer a lot about the value of its economy) from the hash rate in the block chain, and both are extremely low.

12646  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BCN] Bytecoin (CPU-mining, true anonymity) on: April 25, 2014, 11:25:55 PM
abhorrently evil shit that BCN is used for on the deep web (and you know exactly what I'm taking about).

I frankly doubt that its used for much of anything (yet). No exchanges, no real "outside" buyers, etc. BTC worked/works for SR, etc. because you could take those BTCs that you sold your "stuff" for and use them for other things, and because people wanting to buy that "stuff" could buy BTC to use.

The idea that BCN is being used for some large evil economy defies logic.

I do agree that the developers might have what you said in mind when they (maybe) started two years ago, but it would have required BCN to succeed widely in addition to all that evil stuff. The evil stuff can't support an economy on its own. It didn't happen though, all that happened is a premine.






12647  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: New BCN/Cryptonote-based coin discussion on: April 25, 2014, 10:59:11 PM
So we have a couple of CryptoNote technology implementations and a lot of discussions around them.

I ask you not to deteriorate existing solutions, but to create a new version of CryptoNote based cryptocurrency that will suit us all.

I'm ready to develop it, but I need to clarify your wishes concerning:
*Coin name
*Emission curve
*Additional features

Why do you prefer the CryptoNight proof-of-work over other CPU-friendly alternatives,
like my Cuckoo Cycle?

For one thing, if you're doing a code fork, it's less work to keep the existing PoW. That wouldn't necessarily be a reason to not change for a good reason, but it is a reason to not change without a reason.

12648  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BMR] Bitmonero - a new coin based on CryptoNote technology - LAUNCHED on: April 25, 2014, 10:33:50 PM
- emission is via clearnet (80% of ByteCoin was mined in the past two years by persons unknown, it only entered the clearnet last month apparently)

We don't even know it was two years. Technically all those blocks could have been created in a short time by someone with enough hash power (and it isn't even really that much). The problem with all this lack of transparency is that you really can't trust anything about it.

I call it a ninja premine because for either reason, the name fits. If they mined for two years, then they are good at staying hidden. If they mined in a few days or weeks and then launched with this unverifiable story about a two year history in the deep web, then they are experts in disguise and deception.








12649  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - a coin with strong privacy based on CryptoNote technology on: April 25, 2014, 10:10:39 PM
Im actually for prolonging the emission period to as long and fair as possible. If this coin is in fact intended to become a viable option with mass adoption in mind, 4 years is just not long enough. I have been mining (Bit)monero from day 2 and wouldnt mind if my stash gets halved (although I wouldnt mind if it just getting halved from here on 10000 blocks in the future either Wink ). Any way, we should discuss first and have a vote for it and we should have it soon because the earlier the easier, the better.

As smooth stated, this is a hard fork change and will be difficult to implement and get consensus on.  But it can still be discussed.

Any change to the emissions schedule is a hard fork, but some are much easier sells than others. While I don't agree that the reverse stock split is "taking coins away" I definitely understand that people will see it that way and it will be hard to accomplish realistically, so we should do something else.

12650  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BCN] Bytecoin (CPU-mining, true anonymity) on: April 25, 2014, 10:09:24 PM
+100 000 BCN for giveaway =)

I donated as well. BCN giveaway fund should be pretty healthy now
12651  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BCN] Bytecoin (CPU-mining, true anonymity) on: April 25, 2014, 10:08:15 PM
who ever holds more bytecoin maybe relevant or irrelevant.  Depends on the nature of the substrate I would think.

We have no idea what the substrate is, if there even is one. With regard to the bytecoin development community, so far I've seen one fix from monero get pulled back to bytecoin, and little if anything going in the other direction. If there are stores, exchanges, etc. for bytecoin, then let's hear about that. Failing that, there is no substrate. It is all a mirage.

But like you I am mining both and taking a wait and see attitude. I think monero has just a whole lot more legitimacy and transparency at this point, and that counts for a lot. Just the fake cicada 3301 references are enough to convince me there is an element of scam to bytecoin, but those could possibly done by someone with no real connection, so we can't be sure. It smells bad though.



12652  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BCN] Bytecoin (CPU-mining, true anonymity) on: April 25, 2014, 10:03:18 PM
I don't think it is fair to say bytecoin was ninja mined for 2 tyears. It was most like announced on the deep web. I don't think a third world country can say bitcoin was ninja mined just because they were not aware of it.

If you can demonstrate that actually happened, that might make a difference to perception. So far all we have a web site that appeared a few months ago and the claim that it has existed for two years. For all we know someone with a botnet mined all those blocks in a day and put fake dates on them. It would be a very clever and possibly effective way to premine 80% of a coin if you ask me. Like a ninja.

Talk is cheap. Show evidence.

12653  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - a coin with strong privacy based on CryptoNote technology on: April 25, 2014, 09:48:38 PM
Im actually for prolonging the emission period to as long and fair as possible. If this coin is in fact intended to become a viable option with mass adoption in mind, 4 years is just not long enough. I have been mining (Bit)monero from day 2 and wouldnt mind if my stash gets halved (although I wouldnt mind if it just getting halved from here on 10000 blocks in the future either Wink ). Any way, we should discuss first and have a vote for it and we should have it soon because the earlier the easier, the better.

Realistically it seems like it is going to be hard to ever get ageement on the reverse stock split idea, so we'll likely have to do something else, or nothing. My favored plan is to move the reward curve out and then temporarily reduce the current rewards until the total drops to match the new curve, but there are other ideas being thrown around.

12654  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - a coin with strong privacy based on CryptoNote technology on: April 25, 2014, 09:47:06 PM
Why did Bitmonero change the block penalty free size from 10 kb to 20 kb? Doesnt that bloat the block chain by a factor of 2? Are there any merits in it? Can the limit change on its own, say miners in general decide to make larger blocks, thus raising the limit over time?

This was never explained. TFT thought it was a good idea, so he did it. No discussion or technical justification was given. 

According to the white paper the penalty-free block size is supposed to grow with 110% of the median block size. I haven't checked in the code to see if that is implemented correctly.

I did notice that the code for selecting transactions to include a block isn't very intelligent and can be improved. I guess that won't matter much until there are more transactions, and at that point it should be an easy fix.

12655  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [185 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: April 25, 2014, 09:23:27 PM
Any ideas why looking at the share graphs they all have a steady decline? Usually it goes up for a share found and down accordingly when the share expires. Since P2Pools almost doubling in size since yesterday the shares including new ones seem to drop steadily and almost drastically.

The payout graphs for p2pool show payout per block. If the pool grows and therefore finds more blocks and your hash rate stays constant then you get less per block, but the same amount overall.

Graphs showing estimated payout per day would be good to add. Those would not decline if the pool grows, which I agree creates a perception problem when users don't understand what is going on.

12656  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - a coin with strong privacy based on CryptoNote technology on: April 25, 2014, 09:15:56 PM
tacotime already answered most of this but I'd add:

- With every renaming people get confused (BCN, BMR, MRO..?) you get my point.

Important point. This is not a rename of BCN. BCN was made public with 80% already mined. This coin was made as a fork of BCN to have a clean launch with no premine, no IPO, no block fee, etc.

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- Pls create a new thread for technical help and one for discussion to keep some visibility.

Fantastic suggestion. New users shouldn't have to wade through all the discussion just get help, especially given the rough state of the software.


12657  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - a coin with strong privacy based on CryptoNote technology on: April 25, 2014, 09:13:23 PM
I updated the info on The CPU Coin List to show the new name.

Why was Monero chosen as the new name?
It is "coin" in Esperanto.

Also it is said to be close to the word for money/coin/currency in many other languages.
12658  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MRO Monero trading thread and OTC exchange (formerly Bitmonero BMR) on: April 25, 2014, 08:22:05 PM

Buying 5k MRO for 1.0 Bitcoins.

Check pm. Smiley

If you guys traded please let me know for the ticker
12659  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: BCN Bytecoin trading thread and OTC exchange on: April 25, 2014, 08:19:02 PM
Now 10m BCN trade reported
12660  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: New BCN/Cryptonote-based coin discussion on: April 25, 2014, 12:53:24 PM
- instamine: MRO is not instamined.

The concept is frankly absurd. Out of a total of 18 million coins, only about 170 000 have been mined so far.

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