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1321  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Official Newbie BitInstant Support Thread (Active Customer Support) on: April 21, 2013, 11:55:33 PM
Okay Ursay I contacted Zipzap and they told me to give this information to you.

Here are the transaction details:
Merchant order ID
4f2595c9-0007-48b8-9b03-0f9d922211f7
Customer account ID
785 119 595
Payment code
0103572240
Status
Paid
Amount
500.00 USD
Final full order amount
503.95 USD


So here is the order ID and the proof that I paid.  If there is nothing you can do I'll ask Zipzap for a refund just so this can be over.

Again...here is your proof of payment for that order which was placed on 4/2.  You received it on the same day that it was placed.

https://blockchain.info/address/1Hh54JkZRbSCom3ddsbJuVgACpy4dwbTXg

If you have another order which failed then you should have a different order ID # and zipzap acct # for that failed order.

We clearly aren't getting anywhere. I'm asking Zipzap for a refund. The information I had is what I gave you. Two separate payments but you only are giving me one blockchain. This means Bitinstant possibly never received the money I gave to Zipzap. Either way I'm going for the refund from Zipzap because clearly you don't know whats going on and they certainly have my payment.
1322  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Official Newbie BitInstant Support Thread (Active Customer Support) on: April 21, 2013, 09:20:44 PM
Okay Ursay I contacted Zipzap and they told me to give this information to you.

Here are the transaction details:
Merchant order ID
4f2595c9-0007-48b8-9b03-0f9d922211f7
Customer account ID
785 119 595
Payment code
0103572240
Status
Paid
Amount
500.00 USD
Final full order amount
503.95 USD


So here is the order ID and the proof that I paid.  If there is nothing you can do I'll ask Zipzap for a refund just so this can be over.
1323  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitBuntu LiveCD R2 on: April 21, 2013, 07:52:02 PM
To solve the trust issue, let us compile the important binaries ourselves and just include the source code and commands to do it.
1324  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Official Newbie BitInstant Support Thread (Active Customer Support) on: April 21, 2013, 05:37:32 PM
Ursay I'm going to give you and Bitinstant the benefit of a doubt. I've contacted Zipzap to find out if they screwed up and lost my money.
1325  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Official Newbie BitInstant Support Thread (Active Customer Support) on: April 21, 2013, 05:25:48 PM
Ursay maybe it's possible that Bitinstant got my orders mixed up somehow. The order from April 2nd and April 3rd. Both were paid for, that is all I know from my end.

All I know is I sent money to both account numbers but only received half the coins. The emails were sent from Zipzap confirming that fact.

The blockchain https://blockchain.info/address/1Hh54JkZRbSCom3ddsbJuVgACpy4dwbTXg

This seems to be showing the order from April 2nd which I did receive and which is associated with the Bitinstant email saying:
OrderID: 4f2595c9-0007-48b8-9b03-0f9d922211f7
EventID: 82abd759-7988-4af6-9c18-b3e24fd85671
DestAccount: 1Hh54JkZRbSCom3ddsbJuVgACpy4dwbTXg
QuoteID: b7d770b4-86e0-4e31-a6c8-0bba104a8c48
User: SYSTEM
DestExchange: btc
eventtype: Order executed
EventSentAt: 1364918455.97
APIResponse: {'Transaction_id': u'515b00483fa78d54fa0ea749'}
FundsSent: $480.05 USD


But the order from April 3rd I received no email like this yet Zipzap confirms I deposited the money. My guess is either Zipzap or Bitinstant mixed up my orders.







You keep giving me order info for a successul order.  Show me order info for your unsuccessful order and I will try to help.


There are two orders. The one on April 2nd was successful, the one on April 3rd was not. The info from the unsuccessful order on April 3rd, all I have is the email from Zipzap which said:

Amount to Pay: $503.95
Account Number: 785119595

Your ZipZap payment has been successfully processed and the merchant has been notified to complete your order. Please keep this email for your records.

We value your feedback and would appreciate your participation in a short, 30-second survey, which you can access here: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/P6TZQ58.
Your involvement enables us to continuously create better experiences for you, and others like you.

Thank you for using ZipZap, the Global Cash Transaction Network.

http://www.zipzapinc.com


And this email message was delivered on April 3rd at 9:11 AM EST. So if they sent this email it means they received my payment which I deposited at that time.

Can you contact Zipzap and check to see if payments were sent to these two account numbers?  

785 119 595 and 637 645 888

Zipzap has my money whether Bitinstant received it or not I don't know. But I do know they have it and they emailed me confirming that they have it on that day at that time. So if they made a mistake I'd like a refund from them and if Bitinstant made a mistake then I'd like my coins.

To anyone reading this thread:

According to Bitinstant the 785 119 595 account number was for a blockchain a day earlier but can anyone see how illogical that is? I received confirmation from Zipzap for a payment on April 3rd that I made on April 3rd, apparently Bitinstant never received the payment and is attributing it to a payment I made on April 2nd. But I made two payments, one which was made on Tuesday April 2 and one which was made on Wednesday April 3.

This would mean Zipzap had to receive two different payments to two different account numbers but somehow confused them as one? If I would have somehow mistakenly made two payments to the same account number (the only possible explanation for this) then they would still owe me a refund because they would still have the money. This would take Bitinstant off the hook if that is what happened but I'm looking at the documents I have and in my records I paid to two different account numbers.

This means Zipzap was sent $503 to these two accounts Account Number: 637645888 and Account Number: 785119595 on two separate days. My guess is if Bitinstant didn't make the error then Zipzap did, but either way I want my refund as it's been almost 3 weeks now and $503 is a significant amount of money.
1326  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Don't trust ripple! It's a get rich quick scheme for the creators. on: April 21, 2013, 07:00:09 AM
Ripple is a get rich quick scheme for it's founders.

No one goes into business hoping to get poor  Cheesy  Cheesy  Grin

But seriously, let's set aside emotion for just one moment. If Ripple delivers on all its promises and becomes the world-wide payment system that frees individuals from the traditional financial system, is it so bad that the founders get enriched?

If you truly do believe that everyone is going to use Ripple and that XRPs are going to skyrocket in value, nothing is stopping you from participating - you can buy XRP in bulk right now from Bitstamp (that's what I've done). Seems pretty fair to me.

It's how they would be getting rich not if.
1327  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin on: April 21, 2013, 06:29:48 AM
Can musicians earn Devcoin?
1328  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WTB] LTC for Paypal - paying 5% above btc-e rate on: April 21, 2013, 05:21:02 AM
Let me know if you have some for sale. Please check my rep in my signature.

Thanks.

100LTC for $300. That sound like a good deal to you?
1329  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How do you create an altcoin? on: April 21, 2013, 05:19:53 AM
I'm bored, its the weekend. I was thinking of creating an altcoin for fun, I won't release it, it would just be cool to get it running and see how fast mining is. Hopefully its not to hard :3 If it is I have a VPS with nothing on it I could use for some sort of litecoin web script.

Thanks Cheesy
Apparently you just fork Bitcoin or Litecoin and change a few lines of code and call it Newcoin. Honestly I could even do it.
1330  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin on: April 21, 2013, 05:18:30 AM
After the 4/20 Rally (early May), I'm going to promote DevCoins like a MOTHERFUCKER. I'm gonna tell people "it costs less than a penny to support independent artists around the world." and link them to Vircurex and tell them to buy 1 or 2 DVC, since they only cost .0009 USD So 1 penny buys you 10 devcoins and gives money to an artist.

Then I'm going to try to make my own site as I said previously. If I can get a few million DVC (from my writing on devtome) I'll make a forum where you get paid DVC once a month or once every 2 months based on your post count. Then make a store where they can use the DVC to buy stuff, and also let outsiders buy stuff. And exchange for BTC and USD.

I REALLY think DVC can help EVERYONE and I really want to help it.

Yeah but how much is that for the article? If DVC is a fraction of a penny then the artist gets a fraction of a penny?

I support the idea in principle but in practice it doesn't seem to be working right now.  You would have to give an artist millions of Devcoin.
1331  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Official Newbie BitInstant Support Thread (Active Customer Support) on: April 21, 2013, 03:37:13 AM
Ursay maybe it's possible that Bitinstant got my orders mixed up somehow. The order from April 2nd and April 3rd. Both were paid for, that is all I know from my end.

All I know is I sent money to both account numbers but only received half the coins. The emails were sent from Zipzap confirming that fact.

The blockchain https://blockchain.info/address/1Hh54JkZRbSCom3ddsbJuVgACpy4dwbTXg

This seems to be showing the order from April 2nd which I did receive and which is associated with the Bitinstant email saying:
OrderID: 4f2595c9-0007-48b8-9b03-0f9d922211f7
EventID: 82abd759-7988-4af6-9c18-b3e24fd85671
DestAccount: 1Hh54JkZRbSCom3ddsbJuVgACpy4dwbTXg
QuoteID: b7d770b4-86e0-4e31-a6c8-0bba104a8c48
User: SYSTEM
DestExchange: btc
eventtype: Order executed
EventSentAt: 1364918455.97
APIResponse: {'Transaction_id': u'515b00483fa78d54fa0ea749'}
FundsSent: $480.05 USD


But the order from April 3rd I received no email like this yet Zipzap confirms I deposited the money. My guess is either Zipzap or Bitinstant mixed up my orders.





1332  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Official Newbie BitInstant Support Thread (Active Customer Support) on: April 21, 2013, 03:29:31 AM
Still haven't received Bitcoins owed since April 3 2013. What is going on with Bitinstant?

I believe you received this similar response from support quite sometime ago...?

zipzap 785119595
This processed successfully on April 2nd.

See here: https://blockchain.info/address/1Hh54JkZRbSCom3ddsbJuVgACpy4dwbTXg

[RESOLVED]

No I believe something went wrong. I did make a purchase a day before and one of them went through, but the purchase on April 3rd did not go through. How does showing me something from April 2nd account for April 3rd?

The payment from April 2 is this one
Hey there,

This is to notify you that your order has been updated, please find the details below:


PLEASE NOTE: If are are planning to fund a third-party wallet, we are not liable for their delay in crediting you. Please check www.blockchain.info with your address to verify we sent the transactions before emailing support about an order not received.


OrderID: 4f2595c9-0007-48b8-9b03-0f9d922211f7
EventID: 82abd759-7988-4af6-9c18-b3e24fd85671
DestAccount: 1Hh54JkZRbSCom3ddsbJuVgACpy4dwbTXg
QuoteID: b7d770b4-86e0-4e31-a6c8-0bba104a8c48
User: SYSTEM
DestExchange: btc
eventtype: Order executed
EventSentAt: 1364918455.97
APIResponse: {'Transaction_id': u'515b00483fa78d54fa0ea749'}
FundsSent: $480.05 USD



If you have any questions, feedback or need some help, please do not hesitate to contact us!
support@bitInstant.com
Telephone: 1.716.712.4846
Fax: 1.347.223.5251

Feedback is important to us, please leave us a 2 minute review!
http://www.resellerratings.com/store/survey/BitInstant

Thanks!

The team @ Bitinstant.

Account Number: 637645888 <-- I received my coins on April 2nd associated with this account. This one went through just fine. I'm talking about April 3rd.


Amount to Pay: $503.95
Account Number: 785119595 <- I never received the coins for this payment in association with this account number.

Your ZipZap payment has been successfully processed and the merchant has been notified to complete your order. Please keep this email for your records.

We value your feedback and would appreciate your participation in a short, 30-second survey, which you can access here: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/P6TZQ58.
Your involvement enables us to continuously create better experiences for you, and others like you.

Thank you for using ZipZap, the Global Cash Transaction Network.

http://www.zipzapinc.com

If you have any questions, comments or concerns please email us at support@zipzapinc.com

So while April 2nd everything went fine, April 3rd was a disaster. So it goes I paid $503 on April 2nd and received the coins. On April 3rd I paid another $503 and never received the coins. I made a final purchase on April 12 paying $503 and I received the coins.

The issue from April 3rd is not resolved. April 2nd was never a problem. April 12th was resolved.
1333  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MC2: A democratic cryptocurrency based on a hybrid PoW/PoS system on: April 21, 2013, 12:58:39 AM
Link to the draft version of the whitepaper: Download

Notable things about this chain:
- Uses a new approach to secure hashing algorithms for the hash tree of a given block that should increase FPGA/ASIC resistance
- After 27 coin years it employs a democratic system of voting to manipulate the interest rate of the block chain (users act as the central bank and regulate the rate of inflation)
- Difficulty is based on the linear weighted average of the block times for the past 18 days for PoW blocks
- New block reward adjustment algorithm is given that yields an 8% decrease in block reward per year
- Simple PoS design (tried to strip it of as many complexities as possible)
- PoW and PoS systems are designed to happily coexist, with favour slightly given to the PoW system
- PoS system also intended to prevent 51% attacks

Feel free to peer-review/tear it apart.  I will be the first to say that I'm pretty terrible at math, so please correct any mistakes I've made.  I'd love to hear why you think it's a great/terrible idea, though.  Obviously I anticipate there are a lot of problems with it that I couldn't foresee, so please help me out!

Figure 2 also doesn't want to display with the Y-axis title correct, not sure why that is/too tired to fix this (been working on this/thinking about it for almost 11 hours now).

DONATIONS (will be refunded to the address from which they were sent if this doesn't pan out):
BTC: 12HWFAsv1ojTuw5FzoP9T3SnyjZew5hFDL
LTC: Lb8ESE4NW6kcQVb8uqYS3oRumWSj1gGuza


Lead developer
Tacotime
Potential developer list:
TheBigYak
RauBan
CryptoJunky

If you're working with Python then list me as someone who may occasionally contribute code. What languages are you working with?

I have two questions, how many coins will there be? If it's 11 million total for instance then I think this would be ideal. If it's more than it wont ever be as valuable as Bitcoin and so how will you get early adopters to support this?

I asked the same question to SunnyKing about PPcoin. But yes I'm definitely interested in contributing to the project whether with code or in other ways depending on what you decide to do. Right now I'm familiarizing myself with the Bitcoin code but it's fairly straightforward from what I've seen of the Python implementations.

There are a number of things I like about this project so far.

You've made an honest attempt at making it GPU/CPU friendly.  I'm actually very nervous about the direction of Bitcoin given the growing hashing power availability, and I'd like to see some way to keep the network power distributed.  There will always be favorable hardware.  Rotating Hashes is clever, and I like it.  Finding a way to make the algorithm deterministic while non-predictable is no small task.  There may be yet better ways, but this is a good start.

You've brought in the Proof of Stake concept from another coin, and integrated it in a new way.  Including current innovations just makes me happy in general.  I thought the major benefit of PoS was Transactions without Mining.  Either that

The difficulty adjustment system is non-standard, and should provide an extremely stable and predictable difficulty path.  Given the recent issues with TRC, I can't say I blame you.

You've given thought to all the common faults of current coins, and tried to address them.  That sounds more like prudence than anything else, but it's been overlooked a lot lately.

The democracy thing seems left field.  It seems to be an attempt to allow community feedback into the algorithm, to adjust for errors or changes in the economy.  That shows some remarkable foresight, although I'm not sold on the timeline or mechanism yet.  The idea of damped, non-automated feedback is valuable though.

The fixed block reward reduction feels flawed to me, but that's a gut reaction; I don't have any facts to back it up.  I agree that rewards need to change dynamically.  This is as good a place to start as any.

Overall this is the most thoughtful new coin I've seen in a while, but a lot of your suggestions are solutions to problems I was contemplating, so I may be biased a bit.

I'm mostly an embedded developer, but I'd be willing to help out with development where I can.

The democracy factor is interesting but how to implement? Digital signatures built into wallets which have a certain amount of coins in order to vote? I have no idea how to go about implementing it but it's certainly a good idea to have democratic elements.

The other thing I'm thinking about (unrelated to this) are artificial intelligence elements. AI and cryptocurrencies go well together and would be symbiotic but I'm not knowledgeable enough yet on AI or on cryptocurrencies to code it myself. An AI expert who understands the Bitcoin code could give some insight here and then anyone can code based around those insights but I'm not that expert.

Count me in.

Have you considered starting a project on a crowd funding site like kickstarter ? With all the news around BTC at the moment I think you could get a large amount of funding rather easily.

You're absolutely right. This should be on Kickstarter. Why not?
I do think however that he should not rush through the design process / white paper peer review. It looks good, but if there are any ideas which can improve it then now is the time to do that since the coin doesn't yet have a name.

He seems to be taking the best innovations of each coin and combining them then adding
Any solution to the byzantine consensus problem with a hybrid PoW-PoW stake system that further introduces fault-tolerance and enhances network security with no real net increase in computation power should be a better solution, not a worse one (main tradeoff is chain bloat, but I'm sure people find this acceptable).  

I can understand the need for compromise but where in your paper is this tradeoff made explicit and it's security/efficiency improvement analyzed ? You simply assert that proof of stake is Good, and build from there. The same for the PPC paper, it's all hand-waving spiced with low level implementation details. Don't view it as an attack on you or your objectives, I am a fan of getting rid of wasteful hashing; however this is a very hard computer science problem (Byzantine consensus vs. the Sybil attack) and I expect a hairy analytical paper with all sort of funny symbols and equations, not implementation details.

It seems to me the cryptocurrency community needs more thinkers than doers. Not enough analysis goes into these bitcoin forks, and the results up to now are half baked and flaky.


Quote
Yes, I'm adding more hash algorithms -- but there is no simple way to implement them all together with an ASIC or FPGA without using a massive number of logic units.  You're looking at maybe 35k gates with a scrypt ASIC while this would easily require 100k+ to hit all encryption algorithms.  

So what ? A modern FPGA can include over ten million gates (virtex 7). A large 22nm ASIC can contain hundreds of millions of simple gates. Indeed it's a bit more work to get the first device done (a fixed cost), but once you have the mask the marginal cost to multiply it is the same as a simple Bitcoin mask which uses a single type of hash. What you should be targeting for is that each chip cannot be much more efficient than a CPU, and scrypt, a password derivation technique, is NOT a proper primitive for this task, the same for you multi-hash scheme.

This is a post I agree with but what books or academic papers do you suggest must be required reading so that we can build a knowledge basis to conduct this level of contemplation and analysis?

We should probably put it on Lesswrong or a similar Wikisite and let people learn the required theoretical knowledge, have the discussions which need to be discussed, worth out the mathematics and equations like you say, and then do a proper peer review. I think you're absolutely right the peer review process is important but if all the people with deep understanding aren't willing to explain that esoteric knowledge or write a book on the subject then nothing can change.
 an innovation of his own.
1334  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DVC - Devcoin on: April 21, 2013, 12:57:04 AM
Try not to buy DVC as an investment, its not meant for that.
I'm kinda just holding 40k DVC so I can gift them to a dev who helps me out with something one day or something. Does that make sense?

How much would that be worth though? If it could be worth $4000 then yeah it would make sense. If it would be worth $400 then its not making sense. if It could be worth $40 it's just silly and if it remains what it's worth now than it's just pretend money.

I think you're right, if Bitcoin is a success Devcoin will probably be worth $400 but by then Bitcoin would have to be worth tens of thousands a coin.
1335  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DVC - Devcoin on: April 21, 2013, 12:46:18 AM
So I am just looking into alternate crypto-currencies and I was hoping someone could give me some background on Devcoin. Is it a wise investment? I compared the charts and they seems to match up with LTC and PPC just on a much smaller scale. Thanks for any information.

Devcoin has a great dev team and community behind and a great vision as they pay creatives, developers, and all kinds of people bounties in Devcoin for inventing, producing and creating amazing stuff. Definitely a wise choice for the long term both as an investment and also if you want to support numerous projects Smiley

When the DVC market cap gets big enough they are going to build a spaceship Smiley


How is it an investment? It seems like a charity.

Because the DVC to BTC exchange rate should rise over time as Devcoin has a very strong community and developer, and as Devcoin becomes more widely known (Devcoin has a very comprehensive marketing program which is just getting started), and as more DVC services and websites appear.

How many Devcoins would a person have to buy to make a significant profit? Please help me out with the math here because I cannot see how Devcoins will rise in value when theres so many.
1336  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Official Newbie BitInstant Support Thread (Active Customer Support) on: April 21, 2013, 12:44:49 AM
how long does it take for a deposit to go through and to withdrawl ?

thanks
It used to be within the hour or less. Now they promise you within 24 hours but if you look at the past 300+ pages in this forum alone there are many unhappy customers lately over the past 21 or so days. I got lucky my issue was on day 1 and i found my way here quickly and i got resolution (4+ days). There are many going on 1-3 weeks with no resolution. I would question my sanity if i used their services again.

The past 24 hours we've been handling the vast majority of orders within 2 hours due to some recent improvements.

What about me? My problem hasn't been resolved and it's been over 2 weeks. Some people have unresolved issues going further back. This has not been a pleasant experience.
1337  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DVC - Devcoin on: April 20, 2013, 10:01:01 AM
So I am just looking into alternate crypto-currencies and I was hoping someone could give me some background on Devcoin. Is it a wise investment? I compared the charts and they seems to match up with LTC and PPC just on a much smaller scale. Thanks for any information.

Devcoin has a great dev team and community behind and a great vision as they pay creatives, developers, and all kinds of people bounties in Devcoin for inventing, producing and creating amazing stuff. Definitely a wise choice for the long term both as an investment and also if you want to support numerous projects Smiley

When the DVC market cap gets big enough they are going to build a spaceship Smiley


How is it an investment? It seems like a charity.
1338  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Official Newbie BitInstant Support Thread (Active Customer Support) on: April 20, 2013, 05:05:15 AM
Still haven't received Bitcoins owed since April 3 2013. What is going on with Bitinstant?
1339  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The intelligence community on: April 20, 2013, 02:04:49 AM
They benefit from Bitcoin as much as anyone. They brought us modern encryption and TOR among other tools of privacy. Bitcoin brings them a way to smoothly conduct clandestine operations. We could use their help in developing a decentralized exchange system in order to stabilize Bitcoin's adoption.

They never needed Bitcoin to do clandestine ops. Why would intelligence agencies need Bitcoin? I'm not saying they wouldn't use it, but I don't think they need it.
1340  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Remember: Wallet encryption is only good if you don't have keyloggers! on: April 19, 2013, 11:18:17 PM
Be careful out there...

Quote
Reposting this because I think this needs to be addressed as an exploit.

Last night around 9PM PDT, I clicked a link to go to CoinChat[.]freetzi[.]com - and I was prompted to run java. I did (thinking this was a legitimate chatoom), and nothing happened. I closed the window and thought nothing of it.

I opened my bitcoin-qt wallet approx 14 minutes later, and saw a transaction that I did NOT approve go to wallet 1Es3QVvKN1qA2p6me7jLCVMZpQXVXWPNTC for almost my entire wallet (2.07 BTC).

I had something like 2.07225 BTC.

This is an exploit that was able to steal BTC from an encrypted wallet without having my password - how is this possible? I thought for the most part that bitcoin-qt was safe against these types of attacks as long as the wallet is encrypted.

This legitimately happened to me and I think this exploit needs to be given some attention, please do not downvote as I want to figure out why this exploit was able to access my encrypted wallet without having my password.

So, /r/bitcoin - what happened here?

More info: Browser - Chrome OS - Windows Wallet Version - 0.8.0beta
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1cokps/java_exploit_stole_all_my_btc/


That is why you should never run Java and that is why you should use caution when storing your coins. Why put them all in one place?
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