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1341  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Big Wins of 2021 ($550,000+) on: January 19, 2022, 04:47:19 PM
well, OP is anon so he/she could have many reasons to share it here
from building reputation to making connections... maybe?

here is a good place to find like-minded people in terms of gambling.

I wonder if you are able to win hundreds of thousands of dollars, then why do you need a reputation anywhere and any connections? Why do you even need publicity? If I was capable of making that kind of money betting I wouldn't brag about it either in real life or on the forum, I can't think of any reason why I would want to do it.
1342  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What will be the next big industry move? on: January 19, 2022, 04:02:06 PM
as far as I understand, they succeed very poorly, since it is easy to “pressure” an organization, but it is difficult to “pressure” a large number of people.
Yeah, the next big progress of gambling industry might be coming out from governments' side in terms of regulations. As long as people are preferring to have fiats as one of their payment options then casinos will go for license related things which again lead to get approval from governments; when gamblers stick within cryptos for their gambling, then casinos will be able to operate without need of government's nod which will eliminate the possibilities of government's intervention into gambling industry.

In my opinion, crypto casinos are already doing a great job with government pressure. If you do not play for millions of dollars, then you have a huge selection of crypto casinos where you can bet without KYC, that's a fact. The problem is that if we are talking about the Metaverses, then each Metaverse has a creator - in fact, these are centralized projects and there will definitely not be such freemen that are now in crypto gambling.
1343  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [CHESS] World Championship 2021: Carlsen Vs. Nepomniachtchi on: January 19, 2022, 03:48:02 PM
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that's awesome
thanks a lot for the information

you are right, we can find the players on the link you provided too and check their game history and strategies as well
this is the 1st place person:
https://lichess.org/@/TSMFTXH

and yes, russian would be hard to read here, maybe one day I'll learn it but not yet

This is Hikaru Nakamura. He played the lichess for the first time. As I understand it, he has a contract with chess.com and he only plays there, but for the sake of this tournament he changed his principles. And I think he did not regret it - one bitcoin is an excellent prize by the standards of chess. In addition, it was an online tournament and the players did not spend money on travel, hotels, etc.

I do not know if this is the appropriate board to discuss but earlier was the Day 2 of Tata Steel Chess where several games were interesting.

Before the games, the match between Karjakin and Dubov was really interesting as there was an ongoing feud between them during the WCC 2021 when Magnus revealed that Dubov took part on his team preparation. Though the game ended on a draw, I definitely see the friction between the two (2) players.

The game between Magnus and Anish was also an intriguing one where Magnus was able to capitalize on Anish's inaccuracy. He won the game and basically forced an ending where the former would be able to win an endgame since Anish was down two pawns at the end.

Of course it will be ok to discuss all tournaments here. Chess is not very popular, so one topic is enough for them.
I also follow this tournament, but classical chess takes so much time that I don't watch all the live broadcasts, mostly I watch reports about the most interesting games.
1344  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: January 19, 2022, 03:35:55 PM
Real have already offered PSG 200 million (if I'm not mistaken) for Mbappe, but PSG refused. In fact, they turned down 200 million simply to have him play one more season - that seems to be an all-time record. I guess the PSG bosses think that Mbappe will be the key player this season to help PSG win the Champions League, otherwise I can't explain this financial decision.

It's not unusual for Madrid to buy Mbappe now because they have prepared a fund of 292 million pounds for the purchase of players, but PSG who don't want to let Mbappe go this season make Madrid may have to wait until next summer to get him in free, PSG are indeed a rich club but I don't think they will be ready to lose 200 million by rejecting madrid offer and prefer to keep mbappe until the end of his contract.
I think PSG decision to keep mbappe and risk losing him for free is a stupid financial strategy, to compete in the UCL maybe for now messi, neymar and di maria are enough for PSG in my opinion.

One way or another, they made this decision. Perez confirmed that Real offered 200 million euros for Mbappe, but was refused Link
An amazing decision by the management of PSG, it's like allin where their goal is to win the Champions League and that they are willing to pay such an insane price. But what happens if they fail again? It will be like a giant loss, 200 million euros is serious money even at the level of the top clubs.
1345  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What will be the next big industry move? on: January 18, 2022, 04:02:40 PM
Actually I don't what will the regulators next approach on the next generation Online Casino since most of them is moving toward Web 3.0 format which is a completely decentralized. I wonder how can they still regulate or required KYC procedure for gamblers that playing on exceeding amount of the required for the KYC.
Without a doubt this is a challenge that governments all over the world are facing, before the apparition of bitcoin it seemed we were going to eventually reach a point in which the centralization of power will be nothing more but a given and people will just have to accept it, however now decentralization is slowly countering that tendency and this is something that governments despise, as all their efforts over the last decades are crumbling before their eyes.

Unfortunately, they are trying to regulate even decentralized services, but as far as I understand, they succeed very poorly, since it is easy to “pressure” an organization, but it is difficult to “pressure” a large number of people. I can assume that the authorities will try to maintain their monopoly position by offering users competitive services (like CDBС instead of real cryptocurrencies), I hope most people don't fall for this trick.
1346  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 18, 2022, 03:46:30 PM
He is 35 years old and his contract with PSG ends in 2024. At this age he will not become better, best he can do is to maintain his good performance if not lose some of it.
I doubt PSG will let him go to Newcastle before the end of the season. They need him in CL especially. Otherwise money isn't a problem for Newcastle, they will pay more than what will be asked. The problem is would Navas accept move there if Newcastle will relegate? I don't think so. He will most likely stay in PSG imo unless they will place him in the benches most of the time.

Goalkeepers are "long-lived" among the players, so it is quite possible for him to play until the age of 40 without much loss in the quality of the game. I also think he will stay at PSG (it's a rich club and I'm sure he's happy with his salary there) and only move to Newcastle if he feels threatened by his position as #1 goalkeeper in the team.
1347  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: January 18, 2022, 03:36:20 PM
I think PSG should be able to ultimatum Mbappe now to take a firm stance, because if Mbappe really doesn't want to extend his contract, it's better for PSG to sell him in the current transfer market, than in June Mbappe will be a free transfer and of course PSG won't will get a money from the departure of Mbappe, even without Mbappe, I think PSG front line will still be dangerous because they still have Dimaria, Neymar, Icardi and Messi, so maybe losing Mbappe will not affect PSG front line too much ,  I think by selling Mbappe PSG still has the opportunity to use the money to look for other players who can replace Mbappe's position later.

Real have already offered PSG 200 million (if I'm not mistaken) for Mbappe, but PSG refused. In fact, they turned down 200 million simply to have him play one more season - that seems to be an all-time record. I guess the PSG bosses think that Mbappe will be the key player this season to help PSG win the Champions League, otherwise I can't explain this financial decision.
1348  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: January 18, 2022, 03:16:03 PM
I think, Real Madrid will be champion in 2021/2021.They are showing their performance every match. Barcelona's big player Messi has been left out.Realmadrid have a good team combination playing. They have a good team and management. I think they have able to win in La Liga title in 2021/2022.My prediction goes to madrid.I hope Madrid will be champion.

Real Madrid despite the fact that it is not a favorite in the Champions League retains the chances this season to make a treble: Cup + Championship + Champions League. Bayern, for example, has already lost this opportunity after being knocked out of the German Cup. The likelihood that Real will win the Champions League is not very high, but I can not say that it is much less than other favorites. I think that a whole group of teams (about 7) deserve to win.
1349  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: January 17, 2022, 08:27:44 PM
Although it is early to conclude which team will win the title for sure but City seems to be the favourite one thanks to the points gap they have but also to the inconsistency of their rivals. Chelsea dropped badly after resisting in top for a good period. Liverpool is doing good also but they missed many points lately

Bookmakers believe that the champion has already been determined and are ready to answer for their prediction with money:

Manchester City FC 1.05

Liverpool 12.40

Chelsea 56.00

All others are over 200! Wow!
By the way, for those who prefer a conservative income, but higher than in a bank, the rate on the City looks reasonable - 5% in just 3.5 months. City will most likely become the champion for a couple of rounds before the finish of the championship.
1350  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Africa Cup of Nation Discussion Thread || Current discussion: Group Stage. on: January 17, 2022, 08:17:34 PM
Today games were supposed to be easy wins for Cameroon and Burkina Faso as both were playing against weaker opponents.Well Cameroon being already qualified maybe didn't play full focus in this game and thus a draw was the result,the problem was for the bettors and most probably a lot of tickets are ruined because of this.Burkina Faso also was supposed to beat what they call the weakest team of the tournament in terms of player quality but they didn't manage to,I think today was a day of surprise results in the African Cup of Nations.

The fact that Cameroon would not play at full strength and that it was dangerous to bet on them was clear even after the second round. Even the odds that the bookmakers offered for this match testified to this. The result of the second match is really amazing - Burkina Faso risked letting Cape Verde go ahead because they could not achieve a victory over an obviously weaker opponent.
1351  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 17, 2022, 08:08:52 PM
Milan 1 - 2 Spezia Calcio



unbelievable, milan dominated the game, but couldn't score many goals and worse, the defense disappointed again and they conceded 2 goals, I regret having bet on them, I'm sure I'll stay a few games without betting on them because this is probably the beginning of a cycle of defeats and instability on their side

I lost my multi bet because of this match, although I assumed that Milan would definitely win at home. Extremely unexpected and unpleasant result. Shots - 25:10; Shots on target - 8:6; Corners - 10:1 The statistics were in favor of Milan and if Ibrahimovic had scored (he hit the crossbar) a minute before Milan conceded a goal, the result would have been more logical.
1352  Local / Новички / Re: Исходники Госуслуг попали в открытый досm on: January 17, 2022, 07:32:20 PM
Если это все что они могут предложить для защиты, то у меня для вас плохая новость: аккаунт не защищен вообще и взлом это только вопрос времени.

По большому счёту, никакие варианты защиты не могут ничего гарантировать, когда речь идёт о таких массовых проектах,-skip- Так что не существует идеальной защиты ИМХО.

Согласен с вами, изначально когда я изучал эти новости я даже пожалел, что зарегистрирован на госуслугах, так как тут на уровне архитектуры системы нельзя защитить себя на 100 процентов.

Очевидно, что там не хватает опции "запретить верификацию с помощью госуслуг на любых сторонних сервисах". Это отсекло бы множество проблем. Злоумышленникам не было бы смысла ломать госуслуги, если максимум того, что они могли бы получить оттуда, это информацию о пользователе. Аналог опции для сотовых операторов, когда на основной счет вешается запрет на оплату чего-либо, и создается специальный отдельный счет откуда производятся все оплаты.
Надеюсь, реакцией на возникшие проблемы будет введение такой опции.
1353  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [CHESS] World Championship 2021: Carlsen Vs. Nepomniachtchi on: January 16, 2022, 08:19:25 AM
The strongest bullet chess championship in history ended yesterday (the time limit is 1 minute per game and you can take a berserk). By the way, the prize fund was one bitcoin.
After the first day, Carlsen was 15 points behind the leader and was in third place, and for some reason the whole second game day he played a moronic opening (king F2 for white and king F7 for black) and eventually finished outside the top ten. It looks like he is in a crisis, but is trying to pretend that everything is fine.

who organized this championship? I'd like to read a bit more on that found only this one:
https://www.chess.com/article/view/2021-bullet-chess-championship

but it was last year

was the prize really distributed in BTC or you converted the dollar value of the prize?

curious here
 Wink

The tournament was organized on the lichess platform, here is the link:
https://lichess.org/tournament/qzRBGPLN

As I understood from the description, the sponsor was CakeDeFi and the prizes were distributed in cryptocurrency:

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Hello everyone and welcome to agadmator CakeDeFi Christmas Arena!
I don't stream often but I like to join in now and then.
Hope everyone has a great time, both watching and playing. May the fastest and most accurate player win. Flagging is of course encouraged.

1st PRIZE - 1 BTC
2nd PRIZE - 2500 DFI (about $10k)
3rd PRIZE - 500 DFI (about $2.5k)

(no sharing of prizes!)

Winners will be contacted after the tournament via Lichess for prize distribution.

IMPORTANT : To receive the prizes, winners must have verified accounts on cakedefi.com/ as they are sponsoring and distributing the prizes.

As usual, I will be streaming and showcasing your games.
Enjoy Smiley

Look at the list of participants, I think you can easily find streams of this tournament from many players (Nakamura, Nepo, Dubov, Penguin, Carlsen, Firuja, etc.) who took part, personally I watched it here: https://crestbook.com/node/10310 but there is Russian, so it is unlikely that it will be convenient for you.
1354  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: January 16, 2022, 07:40:25 AM
I think Freiburg's poor performance in this game is simply because Borussia Dortmund were too strong and it had to think more about defense. Although even this did not help, and the score after the first half was 3-0 in favor of Borussia. The degree of dominance is clear even from the scenario of the second half - as soon as Freiburg scored a goal, Borussia again tensed up and scored two more.
After Haaland back to team Dortmund looks stronger right now and Freiburg is not hard to defeat and happing with many goals created by Dortmund player last night. Haaland success make brace and give three points for Dortmund and make position close with Bayern left three points only, but Bayern have one match left and will be separated six points if Bayern tonight success defeat Koln. Statistic will help Bayern looks easy get three points from Koln and playing as home because always looks easy for Bayern last several match with winning track and keep on get three points always.

Bayern won quite easily and the gap rose again to 6 points. In fact, this is not a problem, because before the end of the championship, Bayern will definitely lose many more points, the problem is that Borussia will lose even more. Borussia Dortmund can take big wins and dominate individual matches, but their slumps is longer than Bayern's in veragee and there's no reason to expect Bayern begin to lose points on a long time for some reason.
1355  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- Group Stage! on: January 16, 2022, 07:26:23 AM
The fact that Real and PSG meet at such an early stage is bad because someone will leave the tournament, but good because already at this stage we will see a dramatic confrontation. The problem of the Champions League is that this tournament becomes interesting in the final matches of the group stage (in some, not in all) and in the playoffs, and as you rightly noted, even in the playoffs some teams get weak opponents and their confrontation is not very interesting.
Bad decision with one bigger team will leave tournament early between Madrid or PSG, but how ever PSG failed touch first standing position on group stage have regulation will faced with leader group stage where Madrid as against for 16 round. Both team playing well and Madrid keep consistent on champion league group stage just got one loss, different with PSG just collected 11 points from three time with winning and one time loss and get two draw, different with Madrid success get five winning and collected 15 points with one loss only. But domestic league Madrid more consistent than PSG will give favorite for Madrid take to quarter final.

I don't understand why it's bad that the "big" clubs will meet now so that someone is eliminated from the tournament. We will see two great matches, it would be worse if it was one match (final). There should be only one winner in a tournament, so it's normal for even good teams to leave the tournament. By the way, if some small team reaches the finals by knocking out big clubs, then this will also be good, as it will increase the diversity among the winners of the tournament and bring some fresh trends.
1356  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Аналитика, анализ, прогнозы. on: January 16, 2022, 07:08:55 AM
Все как в LN, в экономическом плане LN и POS похожи до степени смешения.
Экономическая модель PoW:
1. Чем больше у меня майнингового железа, тем больше мой хешрейт.
2. Чем больше мой хешрейт, тем больше моё вознаграждение.
3. Чем больше моё вознаграждение, тем больше я могу купить за него майнингового железа.
4. goto 1.

Итого: деньги делают деньги, богатые богатеют.

Вывод: поскольку экономические модели PoW и PoS одинаковы, то можно считать, что PoS - это PoW и наоборот.
Согласны?

Нет, даже то что вы описываете как минимум сомнительно. Ваше железо не майнит железо (в то время как в POS монеты майнят монеты), что уже приводит к различию в открытости/закрытости систем.

Другие отличия:
в POW есть аукцион тупости щедрости когда майнеры Петя, Вася, Иван соревнуются между собой буквально в том, кто больше денег выкинет в трубу (сожжет на майнинг), да, есть нюанс эффективности, но тем не менее миллиарды живых долларов улетают в трубу.
В POW при наращивании хешрейта постоянные затраты растут (в POS они неизменны, а в процентном соотношении стремятся к нулю), что приводит к таким эффектам как отрицательная рентабельность на дампе рынка и банкротство майнеров.
В POW для реализации описываемого вами алгоритма вы должны активно этим заниматься, в POS вы должны активно заниматься (продавать монеты) для того чтобы избежать реализации этого алгоритма.
И так далее, думаю если выписать все сходства и различия, то различий будет намного больше.
1357  Local / Новички / Re: Исходники Госуслуг попали в открытый досm on: January 16, 2022, 06:48:02 AM
Интересно, приведет ли это к тому, что широкоизвестные "специалисты Сбербанка" будут со временем наивных пользователей донимать, напрямую через госуслуги, с классическими просьбами "обезопасить счет" + новинками вроде "оплатить штраф/налог и т.д."?

Уже привело:

Мошенники активируют QR-коды

Телефонные мошенники воспользовались актуальной темой QR-кодов. Представляясь по телефону сотрудниками портала «Госуслуги», они предлагают привязать QR-код к странице пользователя и получают доступ к личному кабинету граждан. Затем злоумышленники могут, например, использовать полученные на портале данные жертвы для оформления кредитов, предупреждают эксперты.

Телефонные мошенники стали звонить жертвам от имени сотрудников портала «Госуслуги», предупреждают в компаниях по кибербезопасности. Они просят граждан продиктовать код из СМС-сообщения якобы для активации или привязки QR-кода к странице пользователя, рассказал руководитель аналитического центра Zecurion Владимир Ульянов.

источник

Сегодня получил от госуслуг, вот такое письмо:



Что косвенно подтверждает наличие проблемы.
1358  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Аналитика, анализ, прогнозы. on: January 15, 2022, 04:24:12 PM
Итак, с чем конкретно вы тут не согласны:
В контексте разговора POW vs POS, LN это чистый POS без капли POW.
Биткоин не перестанет быть POW когда эмиссия закончится, так что ее наличие/отсутствие ни о чем не говорит.
LN включает в себя всё то, за что тут пытаются критиковать POS: обладатель стека "ничего не делая" получает деньги и накапливает монеты.
LN - это не PoS в любом контексте.

Отсутствие собственной эмиссии у LN говорит о том, что LN - это несамодостаточная сеть, которая не может функционировать без сети, обладающей собственной эмиссией. Сети, использующие консенсус PoS, напротив, являются самодостаточными сетями с собственной эмиссией. Поэтому, LN - это не PoS.

Вы продолжаете делать одну и ту же ошибку - рассуждаете о "любых" контекстах, но пытаетесь опровергнуть мой тезис только в одном, о котором я изначально и не говорил.

PoS критикуют не за то, что стейкхолдер, ничего не делая, накапливает монеты -skip-

Видимо вы невнимательно читаете обсуждения, POS критикуют за многое, в том числе и за это:

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При этом у стандартного PoS есть и недостатки. В частности, поскольку у держателя более крупного стейка больше шансов завалидировать блок, то «богатые становятся богаче».
https://habr.com/ru/post/462073/

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“Нечестная” экономическая модель
Одна из частых тем для критики PoS-систем связана с тем, что они раздают новые средства пропорционально существующим накоплениям. Следовательно, «бабки делают бабки», богатые становятся богаче и все это выливается в то, что несколько богатых пользователей располагают большим богатством, чем было бы в эгалитарной системе PoW.
https://2bitcoins.ru/chto-budet-kogda-ethereum-perejdet-na-proof-of-stake-pos/#nechestnaya_ekonomicheskaya_model

Все как в LN, в экономическом плане LN и POS похожи до степени смешения.
1359  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Аналитика, анализ, прогнозы. on: January 15, 2022, 12:59:32 PM
Все верно, это никак не противоречит моим словам.
Биткоин не перестанет быть POW когда эмиссия закончится, так что ее наличие/отсутствие ни о чем не говорит.
Противоречит. Вы поставили знак равенства между прекращением эмиссии и её отсутствием. Я возразил, что прекращение чего-либо не означает отсутствия чего-либо.

Ошибаетесь. Я ставлю знак равенства между монетой POW где идет эмиссия и монетой POW где эмиссия закончилась - эти обе монеты все равно POW - ничего не поменялось.

Я вижу сходство POS и LN в том, что в POS обладатель стека получает прибыль за счет замораживания своих монет, и в LN обладатель стека получает прибыль за счет замораживания своих монет (в сети L1).
Да, но вся эта дискуссия началась с вашей фразы:
И еще вопрос: если POS так ужасен, а POW хорош, то почему L2 биткоина Lightning очень очень подозрительно близок к POS, но не к POW? Второй уровень сети решает те проблемы, которые не может решить первый уровень? POS биткоина лучше чем POW биткоина?
Вы не просто указали на сходство между LN и PoS по одному из параметров, а поставили знак равенства между LN и PoS. Вы прямо обозначили LN, как PoS биткойна, да ещё и попытались сравнить две сущности, одна из которых зависит от другой и не может без неё существовать.

Биткойн работает при помощи сети Интернет. Если бы я спросил: Биткойн лучше Интернета? Наверное, вы бы подумали: что за идиотский вопрос? LN работает при помощи сети Биткойн и других подобных сетей. Вы фактически спросили: LN лучше, чем Биткойн? И что мы должны были ответить по этому поводу?

Зачем вы путаетесь в аналогиях, если у нас есть конкретная тема обсуждения? Давайте ее и продолжим обсуждать.
Итак, с чем конкретно вы тут не согласны:

В контексте разговора POW vs POS, LN это чистый POS без капли POW.
Биткоин не перестанет быть POW когда эмиссия закончится, так что ее наличие/отсутствие ни о чем не говорит.
LN включает в себя всё то, за что тут пытаются критиковать POS: обладатель стека "ничего не делая" получает деньги и накапливает монеты. Сейчас это накопление идет медленно так как комиссии копеечные, а если все-таки LN окажется востребованным и на нем действительно будут сотни миллионов транзакций + смартконтракты + атомарные свопы и т.д., то процесс пойдет быстрее.

Я утверждаю, что к LN можно применить тот же аргумент, который противники POS используют к POS "обладатель монет ничего не делая получает еще больше монет".
1360  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Аналитика, анализ, прогнозы. on: January 15, 2022, 11:00:08 AM
Биткоин не перестанет быть POW когда эмиссия закончится, так что ее наличие/отсутствие ни о чем не говорит.
Смерть человека не опровергает факта его существования, а наоборот подтверждает. Прекращение эмиссии не опровергает факта существования эмиссии. Когда эмиссия закончится сеть L1 будет продолжать пользоваться монетами, полученными в результате собственной эмиссии.

Все верно, это никак не противоречит моим словам.

Cеть LN не может существовать без монет, полученных в результате чужой эмиссии. Сеть LN не самодостаточна, в отличие от сетей L1, из-за отсутствия своей эмиссии.  

Тоже верно и это опять не противоречит моим словам. В том числе вот этим:

Я вижу сходство POS и LN в том, что в POS обладатель стека получает прибыль за счет замораживания своих монет, и в LN обладатель стека получает прибыль за счет замораживания своих монет (в сети L1). В обоих случаях обладатели стека стригут деньги "просто за то что у них уже есть монеты".
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