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1341  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 14, 2013, 10:36:48 AM
I dont get it..

People who blame/fuck/fud/swear/whatever/dont believe in labcoin and even sold there shares, what are you doing here?
We heard it the first time, and we still don't care.

Are you surprised people argue on the Internet? Really?

You care that little, that you spend all your time arguing about it. Yeah, you sure convinced us that you don't care, honest!
1342  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 14, 2013, 10:35:01 AM
No, investing on religious-like beliefs is not sane and I never said it was, or advocated such an investment strategy. I simply made a true and factual statement.
You never said it was, but it doesn't matter if you said it: you're too dumb to understand that's what you are doing.

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Exactly, you are here to mock me and it isn't working. Not only is is not working, but I've shown that what you were saying about me was complete nonsense. That's why you are butthurt.
Oh, you're turning into Labcoin now! Claiming stuff without a shred of proof.
So cute.
And I'm not mocking you, you self-important monkey. I'm mocking every cheerleader here. You're just the stupidest today.

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It's funnier turning your own rantings against you.
That's not how it works.

You said you were here to mock people. Last time I checked, I was a person, therefore, you are here to mock me.

Do you even logic?
1343  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 14, 2013, 10:32:07 AM
Again, what part of that suggests that Labcoin are not mining with 2 Th/s? What part of that shows Labcoin admitting to have lied about mining with 2 Th/s?

If you think Labcoin is mining with 2Th/s where are the block rewards going?

To an address. An address they have stated will be shared later with us. Does the fact that they refuse to share this address now, prove that Labcoin are not mining with 2 Th/s? Of course it doesn't.

Do people here not understand the difference between facts, rumours, speculation and evidence?

Facts, rumors, speculation and evidence are all things that move the market. You're making predictions about the likelihood of future events, and all of those things come into play.

Plus, if half of the "community" no longer trusts them, then the price is going to be a lot less then it otherwise would be come November when you were planning on selling.

It is interesting, that people are buying in constantly. I dont know, this is not even over yet..

Because, even if the risk has increased, the potential reward is still pretty high. Even if you thought there was a 90% chance of failure, it would make sense to invest a small chunk in hopes that 10% gets you better then a 10x return

I'm just calling people out for spreading blatant lies. Take for example Labcoin saying that they were doing some tweaking. That somehow became "Labcoin admits to lying about hashing with 2 TH/s". That's a blatant lie as Labcoin said no such thing.


1344  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 14, 2013, 10:25:00 AM
Again, what part of that suggests that Labcoin are not mining with 2 Th/s?
Very simple ways to prove they were hashing were stated, and they did none of them.
They claim it isn't "stable"; even more reasons to use a pool and not solo mine.


Just because they never bothered using those methods acceptable to the community, that does not mean they lied about hashing at 2 Th/s. Neither does them claiming stability issues or pool mining.

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What part of that shows Labcoin admitting to have lied about mining with 2 Th/s?
Why would it matter? Do you even logic?

Because it's a blatant lie. People are claiming that Labcoin have admitted lying about hashing. I'm calling those lying cunts out because I know Labcoin said no such thing. I know that to be pure bullshit.

Spread as much FUD as you like, but if you start with the blatant lies, I'll call you on it.

Thanks for calling me a cunt, really appreciate it.
when they say they are hashing at 2th, then say mining has been delayed, then say they need more time to tweak and calibrate boards and chips before they are stable enough for production. How can they have 2th in production and get 4 th by monday when they still need time to tweak and calibrate boards and chips before they put into production.

What is your definition of lieing, do they need to admit to it fully before it is a lie?
For a lot of people that is enough for them to feel they have been misled.

Your welcome. If you don't want to be called a "lying cunt" in future, then stop spreading lies and stick to FUD. Claiming that Labcoin admitted to telling lies about hashing is the actual lie. By all means, speculate on what it means but don't lie about it and then try and pass those lies off as if they came from Labcoin.
1345  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 14, 2013, 10:19:05 AM
Of course you can make such claims, hence religions.
You're so easy to play with. This is exactly the kind of reply I was expecting.
Ask yourself, is investing on religious-like beliefs sane?

No, investing on religious-like beliefs is not sane and I never said it was, or advocated such an investment strategy. I simply made a true and factual statement.

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Also, it seems to me that you're the one who's butthurt simply from knowing that I'm not butthurt in the slightest. I maybe butthurt in November, but at the moment I'm like  Cheesy Grin
Why would I be? I have no stake in this whole story, I'm just here to mock people.
And your messages are pretty transparent.

Exactly, you are here to mock me and it isn't working. Not only is is not working, but I've shown that what you were saying about me was complete nonsense. That's why you are butthurt.

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Then why are you responding to my comments calling out people claiming that Labcoin admitted to telling lies about hashing?
To tell you that's not what matters.

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Do you even Logic?
Try to come up with your own stuff, please.

It's funnier turning your own rantings against you.
1346  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 14, 2013, 10:12:50 AM
It is interesting, that people are buying in constantly. I dont know, this is not even over yet..

Of course they are. Why do you think they bothered to blag you to sell off in the first place? Just to laugh at you? No, it was to buy your shares at a cheap price.
1347  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 14, 2013, 10:08:44 AM
Again, I don't care about them admitting to be lying or not; they're claiming things they should prove, no need to complicate things further.

Then why are you responding to my comments calling out people claiming that Labcoin admitted to telling lies about hashing? Do you even Logic?
1348  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 14, 2013, 10:06:46 AM
To an address. An address they have stated will be shared later with us. Does the fact that they refuse to share this address now, prove that Labcoin are not mining with 2 Th/s? Of course it doesn't.
So I guess I can claim Space Elephants exist, even if I refuse to prove it.

You win the deluded butthurt idiot award of the day.

Of course you can make such claims, hence religions.

Also, it seems to me that you're the one who's butthurt simply from knowing that I'm not butthurt in the slightest. I maybe butthurt in November, but at the moment I'm like  Cheesy Grin
1349  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 14, 2013, 10:03:43 AM
Again, what part of that suggests that Labcoin are not mining with 2 Th/s?
Very simple ways to prove they were hashing were stated, and they did none of them.
They claim it isn't "stable"; even more reasons to use a pool and not solo mine.


Just because they never bothered using those methods acceptable to the community, that does not mean they lied about hashing at 2 Th/s. Neither does them claiming stability issues or pool mining.

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What part of that shows Labcoin admitting to have lied about mining with 2 Th/s?
Why would it matter? Do you even logic?

Because it's a blatant lie. People are claiming that Labcoin have admitted lying about hashing. I'm calling those lying cunts out because I know Labcoin said no such thing. I know that to be pure bullshit.

Spread as much FUD as you like, but if you start with the blatant lies, I'll call you on it.

Ok, then what is your opinion on the current situation, and what is a stable price in your opinion?

They're hashing with 2 Th/s and will increasing the hash rate with time. This is not as easy or straightforward as they thought it would be, hence the stability issues. They will fix these issues or learn to work around them. They will pay dividends on the 17th.

As for a stable price, we're not going to see one until Labcoin satisfy the demands of the community.
1350  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 14, 2013, 09:55:29 AM
Again, what part of that suggests that Labcoin are not mining with 2 Th/s? What part of that shows Labcoin admitting to have lied about mining with 2 Th/s?

If you think Labcoin is mining with 2Th/s where are the block rewards going?

To an address. An address they have stated will be shared later with us. Does the fact that they refuse to share this address now, prove that Labcoin are not mining with 2 Th/s? Of course it doesn't.

Do people here not understand the difference between facts, rumours, speculation and evidence?
1351  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 14, 2013, 09:52:26 AM
Again, what part of that suggests that Labcoin are not mining with 2 Th/s?
Very simple ways to prove they were hashing were stated, and they did none of them.
They claim it isn't "stable"; even more reasons to use a pool and not solo mine.


Just because they never bothered using those methods acceptable to the community, that does not mean they lied about hashing at 2 Th/s. Neither does them claiming stability issues or pool mining.

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What part of that shows Labcoin admitting to have lied about mining with 2 Th/s?
Why would it matter? Do you even logic?

Because it's a blatant lie. People are claiming that Labcoin have admitted lying about hashing. I'm calling those lying cunts out because I know Labcoin said no such thing. I know that to be pure bullshit.

Spread as much FUD as you like, but if you start with the blatant lies, I'll call you on it.
1352  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 14, 2013, 09:38:30 AM
On the other hand.. they have boards and they have chips..

What happens it they put those in work?

When do you mean? This isn't a sca, they are having issues and aren't aware that honesty is the best possibility

I think i missed the part.. where they say: we dont mine atm; we dont have the 2th.. someone has that on his clipboard?

I missed that part also and despite asking for people to provide a link to Labcoin making such a claim, nobody has yet bothered to do so for one simple reason - Labcoin never made any such claim.

here

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The project is fully funded and I have personally 100% faith that Sam and the developers can and will deliver and though mining has been delayed, every single (even the most pessimistic) calculation I have done makes selling my shares anywhere near current price a bad idea.

and here

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Boards hashing, and having a mining operation running is two quite different things. The team has notified me that they need more time to tweak and calibrate boards and chips before they are stable enough for production. This does by no means mean that they are not working.

then here

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I would like to point out that I am not calling anyone FUDsters, I am also not saying that labcoin has not had 2th hashing. My statement is just based on the info I have and that is that more tweaking and calibrating is needed before Labcoin feels comfortable with stating a stable hash rate.


They previously said this

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We're currently averaging about 2 TH/s in solo mode, and expect to deploy at least 4 TH by monday 16, to reach gradually 50 TH within October.

Whats your your definition of lieing?

Again, what part of that suggests that Labcoin are not mining with 2 Th/s? What part of that shows Labcoin admitting to have lied about mining with 2 Th/s?


1353  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 14, 2013, 09:34:12 AM
Lol, why would I be butthurt? Perhaps you have me confused with someone who planned to flip shares for 0.01 BTC when hashing started? If that was my plan, then yes, I would be butthurt, but it wasn't, so I'm not.
I'm pretty sure that was your plan, you even bragged about it.
On the butthurt part, there is no doubt about it - you're much more stupid sounding that usual.

I'm absolutely certain that was never my plan and that you suffer from short term memory loss. My plan is and has always been to sell around November after the 50 Th/s comes online and before ActM gets online. It hasn't changed.

Like I said, I would be butthurt if my plan was to flip once the 2 TH/s came online, but it wasn't, so I'm not.
Hilarious. If that's your plan, it's not much different.
You planned to sell them short term at some news, there is not and there was not any precise plan for 50 TH in November.
Anyway, you'd have lost your money with ActiveMining, doesn't matter in the end.


BORING!
1354  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 14, 2013, 09:33:14 AM
i didn't read the last 50 pages, but did anyone else notice that there aren't any traces from the smd pads on the board? the chips should be connected in  some form of chain. i don't think those boards are worth anything.
Yeah it was pointed out many times, but the hardcore Labcoin bagholders choose to ignore it in favor of believing that the chips are hashing and they have assembled boards but for some reason can't provide pictures of those.

You have to be one hell of a brain dead idiot to think that a company would have all the resources necessary to produce a fully functional miner, yet not bother to do so. How does that make any sense whatsoever?

If they have the boards and chips, then there is clearly something wrong with your head if you think none of those have been assembled over the past 2 weeks.

How does a person become so delusional? Is it a special blend of drugs one must take?
1355  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 14, 2013, 09:28:16 AM
Lol, why would I be butthurt? Perhaps you have me confused with someone who planned to flip shares for 0.01 BTC when hashing started? If that was my plan, then yes, I would be butthurt, but it wasn't, so I'm not.
I'm pretty sure that was your plan, you even bragged about it.
On the butthurt part, there is no doubt about it - you're much more stupid sounding that usual.

I'm absolutely certain that was never my plan and that you suffer from short term memory loss. My plan is and has always been to sell around November after the 50 Th/s comes online and before ActM gets online. It hasn't changed.

Like I said, I would be butthurt if my plan was to flip once the 2 TH/s came online, but it wasn't, so I'm not.
1356  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 14, 2013, 09:19:19 AM
On the other hand.. they have boards and they have chips..

What happens it they put those in work?

When do you mean? This isn't a sca, they are having issues and aren't aware that honesty is the best possibility

I think i missed the part.. where they say: we dont mine atm; we dont have the 2th.. someone has that on his clipboard?

They claim it is not stable. And he said they are having issues which is correct. What part did you not understand?

The part were people somehow twisted the meaning of that into being "we are not hashing, we lied".
1357  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 14, 2013, 09:17:36 AM
On the other hand.. they have boards and they have chips..

What happens it they put those in work?

When do you mean? This isn't a sca, they are having issues and aren't aware that honesty is the best possibility

I think i missed the part.. where they say: we dont mine atm; we dont have the 2th.. someone has that on his clipboard?

I missed that part also and despite asking for people to provide a link to Labcoin making such a claim, nobody has yet bothered to do so for one simple reason - Labcoin never made any such claim.
1358  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 14, 2013, 09:15:41 AM
This is funny to see that some people here believe that this is the FUDsters that made the share price crash.
And I predicted it.
They will blame everything but the real culprits: labcoin's incompetence, and their bad investment decisions.

You will see the exact same with ActiveMining.

lol at Massbark being butthurt, his investment strategy didn't work out.

Lol, why would I be butthurt? Perhaps you have me confused with someone who planned to flip shares for 0.01 BTC when hashing started? If that was my plan, then yes, I would be butthurt, but it wasn't, so I'm not.

1359  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 14, 2013, 09:04:30 AM
What "lies"? The only lies are coming from "investors".

Again, my words: saying "We are hashing at 2 TH/s right now and you will see it growing up to 4 until Monday", then switching to "we are not / no longer (never said quite clearly) hashing at all and you should hold until October 30 to see if it was worth it*", that is quite a setback IMO.

* to be honest, they added that it would probably be a 10-bagger by then. Believe it or not...

Link to Labcoin saying that because they never said that at all.

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Labcoin: What is the reason for the drop from the original estimate of 6Th/s to 3-4Th/s to now 2Th/s for this initial batch? Is there a problem with heat?

Not really a drop to 2 TH, this is roughly the speed we're mining at now, it will reach 4 TH next monday. The drop  was from 6 to 4 TH and was caused by some underperforming part of the batch.

when do we expect a dividend? somewhere this week?

So 2 weeks till we start seeing divs?

First dividend payment is due  on tuesday 17 September

Not a single part of that shows anything about Labcoin lying about mining with 2 Th/s.
1360  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 14, 2013, 08:57:11 AM
What "lies"? The only lies are coming from "investors".

Again, my words: saying "We are hashing at 2 TH/s right now and you will see it growing up to 4 until Monday", then switching to "we are not / no longer (never said quite clearly) hashing at all and you should hold until October 30 to see if it was worth it*", that is quite a setback IMO.

* to be honest, they added that it would probably be a 10-bagger by then. Believe it or not...

Link to Labcoin saying that because they never said that at all.

Saying what, that they were hashing at 2, and would double it in a week? Or that we should hold until Oct 30? Or that it would be a 10-bag? I can quote all 3 of them...


So, where's the lie?
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