If people took a second to examine the "payout" records then they would have noticed the following.
19Sp5HuwrcW23TetC9kE5WMqziUSXLjYyY (BTC-multiplier.de) > 1N9unBxizvpmJf4t3L6x558dz5r1mxj1KS (CMW owned address that tops up CMW payout address) > 1LKW6fiftaQg8UPp32ptdgJW587XXCDk3p (CMW payout address) From BTC-multiplier.de Had enough HYIP SCAMS?
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Why would a real "cloud mining" company be funding its payout address from other proven scam sites? |
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Bit-x, Hashnest and Genesis Mining all have backing from manufacturers.
Bit-x = BitFury
Hashnest = Bitmain
Genesis Mining = Spondoolies
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People are more likely to notice and report lower than average payouts. Some payouts in fact have been higher than expected, overall most of the accounts are still under average a bit. Some are above. All we could do is to split our hashrate amongst more pools but that would create some new issues.
Right now we've been doing better than average in the last couple of hundred blocks and it's starting to get reflected on account balances.
What payouts exactly have been greater? |
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@Mabsark , an average is composed of higher and lower number, not just equal or above.
Exactly! So, when have the actual payouts been higher then? More proof = more trust = more better.
Yet cloudminr.io provide no proof whatsoever and flat out refuse to provide any. This has been discussed, look back and read. But the just of it is variance. Notice that beside the payout amout it says est. Payout... Well est stands for estimate. There is no guarantee. There are factors that come into play that you should inform yourself about that people generally refer to as mining variance.
It has already been explained that it isn't mining variance at all as that would necessitate some payouts above the estimate. And it's not maintenance fees eating the difference because there are none, they're included in the initial cost. So, where are the higher than expected payouts? |
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It is funny that people are quick to complain when there is a string of bad luck but I have never heard anything when we get good luck. I can understand your confusion if you don't completely understand what the variable are in Bitcoin mining but I think it should be easy enough to understand what an estimate is.
Mining variance means on average you should get a similar amount of payments that are above the expected value to those that are below that value. Why isn't that the case with this "service"? When have payouts been greater than expected? Also, name a bitcoin miner that will still be mining profitably a year from now, never mind 5 years. |
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The ClearHash thread is locked now and it looks like they've ran away with the money.
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I vouch for this, great site. Made profit already!
So, you've already made a profit from this cloud mining service that has only been running a week?  |
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Given the known problems with AM's hardware, I'm starting to wonder if they didn't just catch fire. That seems like a more plausible explanation than them being "stolen".
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We are not a Cloud Mining Ponzi, we however are waiting for an excess amount of funds in order to buy more rigs. That is why we haven't moved the money a lot. Now, this is just a promotional giveaway so I'd enjoy it if you would not spam with large lettering.
You have provided no evidence whatsoever that you have any mining hardware. You have provided proof that you are paying your "customers" directly from the money they sent to you. Your latest payout transactions trace back to the BitStamp hack. Before anybody starts promoting this garbage to get as many buying referrals as they can, they need to understand that this is just a blatant ponzi and anyone they refer will be ripped off. |
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WARNING!ClearHash.Net is a cloud mining ponzi. 1DXxLzocfWXTHVYv4MTai4LLtXZgcJDknZ is the payout address. 1AFjgfnUhAYp4eh2GhbbLkCXY5xK25qJmQ is the recipient of a payout from that address. https://blockchain.info/address/15VtSFggB1UkVT6zEVneDGYJV7H6AJcacW1AFjgfnUhAYp4eh2GhbbLkCXY5xK25qJmQ sends 0.04 BTC to 15VtSFggB1UkVT6zEVneDGYJV7H6AJcacW which sends 0.0399 BTC to 1DXxLzocfWXTHVYv4MTai4LLtXZgcJDknZ which sends 0.0005295 BTC back to 1AFjgfnUhAYp4eh2GhbbLkCXY5xK25qJmQ. A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations.
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Why weren't shareholders informed that AM couldn't finance BE300? "TO of the BE300" ?? What does this mean?
Tape out. |
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It's blatantly obvious that you were ripped off by ASICMiner, not Havelock.
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The payments trace back to BTC Guild at least. 13VeGaUy7etLcwJe3mbYxkEEDJfZYsu2Ca (Payout address) < 14u1finZobAPzZHSDt1ZAoLfRWuBVcaNkV < 1HqMYmjsYyAsEf8papVQLFU48BbNa2eiA4 < 1K1LV33CaKmrh6gqQVVArtHCyeugN8hw9S < 14cZMQk89mRYQkDEj8Rn25AnGoBi5H6uer (BTC Guild) So does that mean they are actually mining? Is BTC Guild their mining pool? Yes and Yes. |
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I am 99% sure they are just ponzy scam scheme and waiting for enough naive investors to take they coins and run.
The payout details that they posted proves 100% that they are running a ponzi. That's a guaranteed fact that with irrefutable evidence. They are taking the money paid to them, sending that money to their payout address and then paying a fraction of that money back to the customer's address from which it was originally sent. Ask them if they have a response to the scam accusation and let us know how they respond. |
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The payments trace back to BTC Guild at least. 13VeGaUy7etLcwJe3mbYxkEEDJfZYsu2Ca (Payout address) < 14u1finZobAPzZHSDt1ZAoLfRWuBVcaNkV < 1HqMYmjsYyAsEf8papVQLFU48BbNa2eiA4 < 1K1LV33CaKmrh6gqQVVArtHCyeugN8hw9S < 14cZMQk89mRYQkDEj8Rn25AnGoBi5H6uer (BTC Guild) |
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Sure, we use BTCGuild at the moment
Good, that's what it looks like from my blockchain analysis. So they are mining? Yes. The payments trace back to BTC Guild. 13VeGaUy7etLcwJe3mbYxkEEDJfZYsu2Ca (Payout address) < 14u1finZobAPzZHSDt1ZAoLfRWuBVcaNkV < 1HqMYmjsYyAsEf8papVQLFU48BbNa2eiA4 < 1K1LV33CaKmrh6gqQVVArtHCyeugN8hw9S < 14cZMQk89mRYQkDEj8Rn25AnGoBi5H6uer (BTC Guild) |
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My only relationship with Havelock was owning AM1 shares on their website which I sold upon learning of FC going missing. And yes, I reported your thread to the mods because you are just spamming this sub-forum. You had started 9 threads all about the same subject. Save your time and energy and stick to a single thread, it'll also make that info more accessible. |
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All addresses are public anyway so it makes no difference if they're posted. If someone wants to send advertising dust, they don't need to harvest addresses from forums, they can get those addresses directly from the blockchain or a blockchain website which would be so much more efficient.
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Nope, it's a pure ponzi as shown below. I posted this info to the ClearHash.Net thread but unsurprisingly, the OP deleted it. It's a pure ponzi. 1DXxLzocfWXTHVYv4MTai4LLtXZgcJDknZ is the payout address. 1AFjgfnUhAYp4eh2GhbbLkCXY5xK25qJmQ is the recipient of a payout from that address. https://blockchain.info/address/15VtSFggB1UkVT6zEVneDGYJV7H6AJcacW1AFjgfnUhAYp4eh2GhbbLkCXY5xK25qJmQ sends 0.04 BTC to 15VtSFggB1UkVT6zEVneDGYJV7H6AJcacW which sends 0.0399 BTC to 1DXxLzocfWXTHVYv4MTai4LLtXZgcJDknZ which sends 0.0005295 BTC back to 1AFjgfnUhAYp4eh2GhbbLkCXY5xK25qJmQ. |
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