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1361  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Dust Attack Pada Jaringan Bitcoin & Altcoin on: May 30, 2023, 03:58:58 PM
Meskipun saya sendiri kurang yakin ini akan terjadi terlebih dalam waktu dekat, mengingat efek kenaikan fee transaksi di satu sisi juga tentunya memberi tambahan masukan buat pe-miner.

Ini yang juga saya pikirkan, jika misalkan melakukan hardfork maka transaksi turun, sedangkan ini merupakan hal yang ditunggu oleh miner untuk mendapatkan reward lebih banyak. Karena, bagaimana pun dalam kondisi transaksi normal seperti saat ini, reward fee terbilang kecil paling hanya berkisar 1 BTC atau kurang. Sedangkan kemarin reward fee melebihi subsidi, ini tentu adalah yang paling diharapkan miner. Tetapi, bagi pemegang bitcoin dengan jumlah kecil, tentunya akan menjadi masalah sendiri. Ini terjadi sebuah dilema tersendiri bagi keduanya. Karena di masa yang akan datang, miner bergantung pada fee, jika feenya di bawah 1 BTC, saya rasa menjadi kurang menarik, kecuali harga BTC sudah lebih dari $200.000 saat semua BTC sudah di mining, mungkin masih bisa menjaga antusiasme miner.


Saya pikir bahwa komunitas Bitcoin itu terbuka dengan inovasi pada jaringan Bitcoin, namun jika itu sudah membebani jaringan saya pikir bahwa tidak hanya saya, namun banyak orang akan menolak kehadiran Ordinal pada jaringan Bitcoin. Tapi jika pengembang Ordinal dan Bitcoin core dev bisa menemukan cara untuk mengatasi agar Ordinal tidak membebani jaringan Bitcoin, menurut saya komunitas Bitcoin akan menerima hal tersebut dan Ordinal bisa berjalan dengan baik tanpa mengganggu pengguna lainnya di jaringan.
Kalau soal terbuka, tentu komunitas bitcoin memang bisa terbuka dengan kehadiran NFT dan Meme di jaringan Bitcoin, tapi perlu diingat pula banyak juga yang mengeluh dengan mahalnya fee pengiriman dari sisi user yang disebabkan oleh tingginya transaksi NFT & meme. mungkin yang bisa membantu adalah penambahan batas transaksi per detik, dengan demikian mungkin dapat memengaruhi jumlah antrian. Tapi, ini terlalu teknis, saya tidak paham apakah ini memungkinkan atau tidak. Seandainya jika ini memungkinkan, maka transaksi lebih cepat dan efisien.
1362  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: May 30, 2023, 10:52:51 AM
Bukannya kemaren sempat turun di bawah $25k, gan? Apa analisa ini maksdunya untuk hari ini dan ke depannya?
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Menyentuh 25K kalau belum close di area tersebut, artinya cuma lewat, posisi close candle biasanya jadi patokan. Misal, pada tanggal 25 Mei kemarin, sempat menyentuh 25.871, tapi candle close 26.183, artinya ini menggambarkan support 26K masih bisa menahan koreksi. (CMII).
Kemudian, analisa dengan TF 1 jam dan 1 hari merupakan analisa cukup panjang mas, bukan hanya pada hari ini. Kalau untuk harian, lumrahnya di TF lebih kecil, misal TF 15 menit.

Monggo dikoreksi jika pemahaman saya salah  Wink
maaf baru dibalas, karena saya baru cek ini karena ada sundulan dari mas @chikito, ternyata ada reply ini dari mas.




Posisi sekarang ini hampir sama dengan 2019 sebelum halving 2020, cocoknya memang untuk membeli bertahap atau DCA. Kalau user sabar nunggu sekitar 2 tahun lagi, mungkin baru bisa menikmati profitnya, tapi kalau user short term harus memperhatikan juga semua detil untuk bisa retest ke 30K, kalau gagal ya nahan dulu. gitu aja.

Betul mas, seperti yang saya sebutkan di reply post sebelumnya, pattern kali ini cukup mirip dengan kondisi 2018/2019, jika mungkin pattern ini terulang, maka puncak ATH akan terjadi pada 2025.
1363  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Dust Attack Pada Jaringan Bitcoin & Altcoin on: May 29, 2023, 05:40:31 PM
Ya hampir sama kayak ETH dan BNB dimana kita biasa ngirim token erc20 dan BEP20/BSC. Namun yang pembeda di sini jaringan bitcoin itu tidak segede erc20 dan bep20 jadi tidak cukup dan sangat membebani untuk hal semacam itu, bahkan bisa ngelebihi jumlah fee atau gas eth untuk sekali ngirim token. Saya harap kedepan ada pengembangan untuk membelokkan, atau semacam kayak mengubah arah jika ditemukan token BRC20, sehingga tidak membebani transaksi.

Tapi seberapa yakin komunitas Bitcoin dapat menerima hal baru ini. Melakukan pengembangan baru akan membutuhkan waktu lebih banyak. Sedangkan perputaran BRC-20 cukup cepat, jika memang ini disetujui, mungkin kita akan melihat pembaruan untuk mengatasi trafik transaksi yang tinggi. Tapi, pertanyaan saya, apakah mungkin komunitas BTC akan setuju dengan BRC-20 untuk waktu panjang jika pada akhirnya membebani jaringan BTC??
1364  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Platform Exchanges Di Indonesia on: May 29, 2023, 05:31:48 PM
Dengan minimnya pendapatan dari proyek bounty kok jadi kerasa banget ya fee 25.000 kalo wihdraw dari indodax Grin. Padahal dulu kena fee nyampe 100.000 aja ga kerasa.. Sekarang exchange yang fee-nya paling bersahabat apa ya gan?

Oya kok balance yang ada di Idex pada ilang ya kalo lama ga dibuka. Terahir saya pakai Idex seingatku masih ada token-token sisa, tapi pas kemaren dibuka lagi kok udah kosong semua, riwayat transaksi juga kosong semuanya.. Kalo di binance aman ga ya? disana juga kayaknya masih ada sisa-sisa token, tapi sayang lupa pakai email yang mana dan google autenticatornya juga sudah kehapus.

Kalau exchange lokal mau fee murah untuk narik IDR, coba gunakan tokocrypto.

Idex sudah memperbarui layananya mas, Jika pada web mas sudah melakukan deposit ke Idex sebelumnya, coba untuk kontak Idex, saya pikir merekasudah melakukan delisting dari token-token tersebut. Jika memang tidak ada harganya, Binance aman kok, kalau mau wd tidak mau kena fee, silakan ke P2P di binance, prosesnya juga cepat.
1365  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: May 29, 2023, 05:22:20 PM
I don’t think there is any tradition to be found in that and if this would tell us anything, it’s that Croatia have got really good football players who then also happen to be in top tier clubs strong enough to win the Champions League trophy.

Yup, traditions isn't the key to be champions, UCL title not because of Croatian players on team, but how the team will be on the match. So far Man City become favorite because they are have good strategy under Guardiola also have balance players. If Inter Milan able to win this match, I don't its because of Croatian players traditions, but Man. City already made a mistake, no more.
1366  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 29, 2023, 02:45:58 PM
If Roma win the Europa League, then they will get a ticket and there will be 5 Italian teams in the Champions League. Have you forgotten about it? It will be a repeat of what happened to the German teams this year - 5 teams received direct tickets to the Champions League group stage. By the way, I wonder if Roma goes to the Champions League, will Italy retain 2 tickets to the Europa League? I do not know this nuance.
I also don't understand this yet, but in my opinion, tickets for clubs in the league will be adjusted, there is a possibility that they will be given to one team under AS Roma in final standing. Since going to UCL is a prize for winning UEL, then the ticket that should belong to them based on the league standings will automatically shift to the lower team because if it is not given to the team below AS Roma in standing, won't the participating team minus 1 club?

I already trying to find the rule about this, but still not find clear information yet.
1367  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: May 29, 2023, 02:18:18 PM
Roma and Sevilla have a great chance in the final game this time. Sevilla have secured victory many times in past finals. But this time Roma team has a great chance to secure victory.
This game is the biggest chance for AS Roma to get competition title after a long time not going to final UEL. Maybe this time is the great moment for AS Roma to have good history with winning UEL title. Sevilla maybe better with their UEL title history, but AS Roma players will not give the title to Sevilla easily, they will playing all out in this match. For Mourinho, winning UEL title can be a prove if he deserve to keep the "special one"  Tongue
1368  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you lose on slots? on: May 29, 2023, 02:08:26 PM
Only self disciplined gamblers do s apply this method and stick to it. Having an already planned budget for your gambling gives you control over your money and helps you avoid financial waste in gambling that comes with the instinct of believing you're going to win if you try again, which leads to another trials after another till you're empty.

Exactly, there are a lot of gambler understand about this, but in reality while they are playing any gambling, they are forget about that. Their emotion lost control and making another deposit until they are sacrifice his hot money for gamble. People who get addicted in slots always thinking about the jackpot, but they are mostly lose because they are doing the same mistake manytimes.
1369  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: May 26, 2023, 04:34:46 PM
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Harga saat ini sepertinya cenderung mencari support baru yang mungkin akan menyentuh $25k seandainya kepanikan tak terhindarkan. Tapi semoga saja tidak dan saya harap pemulihan harga akan terjadi setelah koreksi hari ini.
Support 26K sepertinya akan menjadi support yang bisa menahan koreksi BTC. Jika dilihat dari indikator TF 1 jam dan TF 1 hari, sepertinya masih dalam masa trend naik. Pada recovery dari 26K ini, jika BTC mampu konfirm di atas 28K, mungkin kita akan melihat BTC retest ke 30K,  tetapi, jika pada posisi 28 K ini gagal break, maka BTC akan meneruskan fase sidewaynya.
IMO/CMIIW/DYOR/DWYOR
1370  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is Pi mining networks real? on: May 26, 2023, 02:56:40 PM
I dont know cant judge them by their looks. But obviously this Pi Network works like a ponzi its like the lyka gems that surround before and now its gone. Many scrutinize that project due to a lot of factors. Worse is Pi is being inclined as a blockchain project which clearly it isnt. Its like a centralized platform for using Pi but not really involve blockchain tech. So be careful to a lot of coomunity there, dont wanna fall on this.

I don't want to demean the citizens of my country, but in fact, older people, both women and men, mostly have no interest in crypto. If there are a lot of old members attending community meetings, chances are they are only interested in promises of profit. If they run a ponzi scheme, I remember the case that happened to the bitconnect community.

Well, I tried to visit Pi Network Indonesia facebook, look at this. Not much different, the participants are old people, why? because they are easier to influence so they can join PI. Cases of "multiplication of money" fraud in Indonesia are common and most of the victims are old people. The scheme that makes me suspicious of PI at the beginning. Even though there were also many young people, from several meetings I found the participants were elderly people who incidentally are very easily tempted by the lure of profit, getting rich and so on.
1371  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Don't gamble if you don't have patience on: May 26, 2023, 02:34:55 PM
In fact, we can enjoy slot games as a relaxation game, but only to relieve fatigue after busy work activities. slot games can be useful, if played according to the portion. I mean, without chasing victory.

Even though this type of game doesn't require a strategy, we can be entertained especially if luck is on our side. not infrequently, rewards from free spins provide good bonuses and can even get a jackpot. -snip-

yes, most players who play slots do not need any strategy. They think of this game as a bejeweled game, the main thing from them is to match the symbols and get money. and then makes players more often out of control with their betting. They forget that playing patiently will be far more effective than playing with emotion. Because this really becomes a deadly trap for gamblers when they no longer feel entertained because of the losses they have experienced.
1372  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: May 26, 2023, 02:25:31 PM
castle is a big club but I don't know what the salary burden will be against Newcastle which is too big for Ronaldo on the other hand also he is old and it is still very difficult to compete at the highest level on loan later to Newcastle so for me it will not happen and maybe this will be a rumor oblique.

Today I read the news about plans from newcastle if they wants to create the "galacticos" team in EPL, that Newcastle is aiming to achieve in the next summer transfer market. There is no name Ronaldo in the list of targeted players, on the contrary, Neymar is included in this galacticos development plan. According to the news I've read, Mewcastle is ready to spend £ 450m for the upcoming transfer market.
1373  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is Pi mining networks real? on: May 25, 2023, 02:54:38 PM
It's a SCAAMMMM. The first time I heard about this scam project was several years ago, and now there is no news about the project or development. It's all marketing gimmicks and promises that you'll get rich when you buy, which is a typical definition of a Ponzi project. I would advise anyone not to attempt to download or use any service related to that project or attempt to promote it, you are trying to promote fraud and your friend or community will hurt you when they lose their money.

also, when you try to download this application, they collect and sell your data in order to continue their promotional campaign for this scam.


That's right, I found PI-Network in 2018, I also tried to trace back whether I was wrong or not. And I found github explorer for PI Network, and the first commit existed since 6 years ago. I hear form several group member in Indonesia that i joined, Here Pi-Network doing seminar few times, unfortunately I did not save the documentation from group member, one think made me don't believe about this project is, most of those who participated ini seminar look like is not understand crypto. For example, this one:

Source: https://www.beritabulukumba.com/nasional/3877843048/begini-keseruan-kopdar-pi-network-di-indonesia-siap-siap-cairkan-pi-coin

look at the people who attended the Pi-Network community meeting, it seems they are not people who understand crypto right, I'm pretty sure they are join this community because of tempted by the promise of profit and make them rich sooner. Indonesian old lady interested in crypto,  lol, Cool
1374  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: May 25, 2023, 02:26:14 PM
I see that Newcastle is more suitable for signing Neymar, because the Magpies will play in the Champions League next season. Not only Neymar, Eddy Howe also had to bring in several star players to be able to compete at a high level.

I don't think Neymar will be a target for Newcastle, because Al-Nassr agree to give a chance for Ronaldo to join Newcastle if they qualify for the UCL in his contract clause on loan status. With the magpies qualifying for the UCL, maybe Ronaldo will consider returning to Europe. Now this become a headline from a lot of media. But, this is maybe hard to happen, because the contract with Al-Nassr is very expensive, if Newcastle has to pay Ronaldo's salary, it will definitely need a lot of money, do you think newcastle will sacrifice their money for Ronaldo?.
1375  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Dust Attack Pada Jaringan Bitcoin & Altcoin on: May 25, 2023, 02:11:00 PM
baru pertama kalinya ngelihat semahal itu biaya transaksi bitcoin sekarang. Saya juga sering melihat transaksi aneh tersebut di jaringan bitcoin.
Bahkan mereka tidak mengambil transaksi sama sekali dari mempoll bitcoin. hampir semuanya dibuat kosong dengan jeda kurang dari 10 block

Sekarang udah jelas, pada kasus $0.15 yang saya temukan bukanlah dust attack seperti yang saya curigai. Namun, transaksi $0.15 atau 469 satoshi bisa dikatakan sebagai representatif transactions untuk mengunggah NFT, Text dan token. Karena, jika tidak ada BTC yang dikirimkan, maka NFT tersebut tidak keangkut.  Lebih jelasnya bisa dibaca komen sebelumnya. Jadi, ini bukan lagi transaksi aneh dan mungkin juga kurang pas untuk dikatakan sebagai dust attack, mengingat ini bukan benar-benar untuk niat membebani jaringan bitcoin.

Akan tetapi, potensi dust attack pada bitcoin pun bisa terjadi, namun membutuhkan banyak orang yang beraliansi agar bisa menaikkan traffic bitcoin, seperti pada kasus membludaknya transaksi di Ordinals.

Satu hal yang memberi jawaban atas pertanyaan banyak orang yang mana ini pernah menjadi pertanyaan saya,
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jika seluruh bitcoin sudah dimining, apakah miner tetap untung?
, pada saat pengiriman BTC mencapai puncak transaksi, miner mendapatkan cuan dari fee lebih besar dari rewards subsidi. artinya miner masih bisa mendapatkan btc dengan value yang besar di masa depan.
1376  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: (Q&A)Apa alasan anda bergabung ke situs bitcointalk? on: May 25, 2023, 01:46:18 PM
Mungkin memang pada sibuk di real gan atau mereka lebih suka baca daripada nulis. itulah bagusnya forum ini masih jadi titik acuan, dan saya liat ada beberapa member SFI baru yang ikut berdiskusi di forum ini .

oiya, ada salah satu temen bilang kalo IDnya di hack. cara balikinnya pakai email kah?
Sibuk real life dan jenuh dengan hasil bounty menjadi alasan yang paling sering saya jumpai. Sebenarnya, kalau mau ditelisik ke global, member SFI banyak kok mas yang aktif, hanya saja mereka jarang atau hampir tidak pernah kumpul disini. alasannya sih variatif, jadi saya tidak mau spekulasi mengenai ini.

Terkait akun yang dihack, selama email pada akunnya tidak diganti, bisa kok via email. Atau, bisa mengajukan banding dengan menghubungi admin menggunakan email yang digunakan untuk mendaftar pertama kali.
1377  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Don't gamble if you don't have patience on: May 25, 2023, 01:41:12 PM
In the end slot games will indeed get someone addicted, even though they say we must have a way to stop when we have won or lost. From what I've experienced it's hard to stop when we are in a lucky spin and will continue to be encouraged to play because we expect another win, that's when everything ends in a total defeat.
Slots is a kind of gambling that can easily make users addicted (IMO). The fast circulation of money makes gamblers often lose control when betting. This is what makes many slot gamblers playing continously and increased their bet without being patient. In contrast to sports betting, or card gambling, the circulation of money is slower, a person can think before acting, whereas in slots, when betting is done, they wait for the machine to run and expect a win without knowing the odds.
1378  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do not be pulled by the hype of meme coins on: May 24, 2023, 04:07:00 PM
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Therefore, we should not be tempted by the excitement surrounding meme coins. I believe that only those who get in early may reap some rewards, but this does not apply to all meme coins.
yup. Presale meme coins/tokens at pinksale are always the top trend every day. Those who take part in the presale or at the fair launch will get big profits, if the community succeeds in generating shillings for new buyers after adding liquidity to AMM. when the hype happens, those from pinksale will sell at least to tke the initial money, thus leaving a profit whether it goes up or down in their wallet. The rule always be same, If it goes up, they created FOMO with shillings on various social media, ifin  a few hours drop, they've managed to secure their initial deposit.

well, even during presale this meme sold out, as i say, its doesn't mean will be success. Take a profit while you can is better.
1379  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you been threaten to stop gambling on: May 24, 2023, 03:50:23 PM
If I were in your friend's position, obviously I would follow my wife's advice to stop gambling and tell the truth about the money that is made and spent in gambling, then I really have to regain my wife's trust from gambling activities, even though I'm a heavy addict, remember there are a thousand ways for men to do activities outside the home without their wife knowing, remember men are more resourceful than women.

Fortunately that situation did not happen to me. heavy choice.

Being honest is better because this will control the money will use to gamble. We know, if we gamble and access to money is in a men, maybe he will continue to make deposits when he loses. However, if he say the truth from the beginning  to his wife, even he is addicted to gambling, maybe if he can't stop, he asks to help control money for gambling every day.
1380  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [DISKUSI] Proyek Kripto Scam asal Indonesia on: May 24, 2023, 03:41:18 PM
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Kesimpulan diatas bahwa mereka hanya memanfaatkan popularitas untuk menarik minat dari sang penggemar atau investor lokal supaya membeli produk mereka, karena mereka merasakan yakin membelinya karena jika pada selebriti menipu akan mengorbankan karirnya di dunia hiburan, kenyataannya tidak karena mudah saja bagi mereka untuk melepaskan diri dari "tuntutan" investor dengan berdalih pada fluktuatif harga koin/token berdasarkan tingkat permintaan dan penawaran, padahal kalau dikaji mereka tidak menuntaskan roadmap dan bahkan produknya tidak memiliki kualitas untuk bersaing dengan proyek koin lainnya.
Inilah sisi gelapnya mas, jika dianggap scam tentu mereka memiliki dalih tersebut dan itu memang benar adanya. karena definisi scam adalah penipuan nyata, sedangkan untuk Asix dan Leslar masih sempat melakukan pengembangan bahkan memiliki likuiditas yang mendukung transaksi jual beli. Jikalau Asix delist dari Indodax, maka mereka akan memiliki alasan kalau proyeknya gagal. Leslar hanya memiliki likuiditas yang kecil saat ini, petingginya sibuk bucin lupa sama kriptonya. mereka pun akan berdalih kalau proyeknya gagal. Padahal, sedari awal memang sudah dikhawatirkan proyek anang dan lesti ini hanya untuk hype lokal saja dan tak bertanggung jawab untuk kelanjutan dari proyeknya.

Agak lucu sih kalau lihat si Anang, karena ia memiliki waktu untuk jualan live di tiktok tapi tak ada waktu untuk Asix. Jadi info dari mas @luzin itu bukan fake ya, karena pernah lewat fyp akun tiktok saya  Cheesy
padahal mayoritas fyp saya adalah mobile legends, tau-tau lewat aja itu si anang  Grin
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