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1361  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling hiding, rules ignored. on: May 18, 2020, 06:47:51 PM
I dont understand these people there are online gambling games already that wont endanger their lives and the community but they still want to gambling in physical casino's. Well it's either they're really addicted to gambling that they can't think straight anymore or they just simply dont know.

We don't understand their reason because they won't tell us why they still want to play in the physical casino. Maybe they want to feel a different thing than to play in online gambling because some of them will have excitement when they can compete with the people face to face. But out of that, we hope that they know the risk to go to the public area, and they must prepare themselves from everything.
The only reason that I think why they are doing that are because, they are not aware that there are online gambling or they don't trust online gambling

I don't think this is the case here

These people are beyond doubt well aware of the online casinos' existence. And it is not necessarily a lack of trust that drives them to stick around brick'n'mortar casinos, either. More likely, they are looking for ways to socialize and to be a part of a top-tier society since they can definitely afford that. Really, can you imagine Bill Gates or Warren Buffett (both of which are known as poker aficionados) playing poker online? Well, maybe you can but I certainly not
1362  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: During a bull market, cash out in what? on: May 18, 2020, 05:39:54 PM
I'll probably cash it out with fiat and then reinvesting when the market dump again.

I've learned my lesson in the past, we can't be too greedy if we want to earn and enjoy the bull run. Because I was greedy last bull run, I wasn't able to maximize my income which I regret and have move on already and i know I'll do better when the next bull run will come.

The same thing happened to me, which I was very greedy during the last bull. During the next, I will convert my asset into fiat currency because there is a huge chance of losing if we hold them in Bit Coin or Ethereum. This time we should, it wisely otherwise we will be losing value again if we repeat the same mistake again.


Those who learned what happened since last 2017 will probably turn their assets to stablecoin and wait till there will be bear market.  ITs the bear market that will make them richer as they figured it out already

Stablecoins are a hell of a lot riskier than cryptocurrencies

To be clear, I mean top cryptocurrencies (read, Bitcoin, the one and only). If you choose a centralized stablecoin, e.g. Tether, you bear a systemic risk of a catastrophic failure of a single entity (company) behind it. With decentralized stablecoins things get even more complicated and tricky. All in all, you either have to cash out and withdraw to your bank account or use a cryptocurrency hedge. The latter is the best option overall if you ask me, though properly implementing this approach requires time, effort, and, most of all, understanding of how things work there
1363  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Pun & Fun Thread on: May 18, 2020, 05:09:10 PM


Two flies arguing on a toilet seat... One got pissed off
1364  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: During a bull market, cash out in what? on: May 18, 2020, 10:05:43 AM
That is because they are investing a very small amount of money in the market and they need such a huge growth in order to change their lives, someone that is investing several years of savings probably only needs a coin to grow five times its current value in order to change his life significantly and then apply the strategy that you are suggesting

That depends on what those savings amount to

For example, if you managed to accumulate a few hundred thousand dollars during that time (in fact, even a few dozen thousand dollars would suffice), you can easily live off volatility by riding weekly price action, as this seems to be the timeframe of Bitcoin's major price swings recently (like on the order of 5-10%). Moreover, you would even be able to reinvest some of your profits thus earned (which would further add up to your operating capital) and then enjoy the potentially unlimited power of compounding
1365  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling hiding, rules ignored. on: May 17, 2020, 10:18:25 PM
~

Not to derail your post, but I can put it shorter, and that is,

Practice what you preach
1366  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Be a professional gambler on your own way. on: May 17, 2020, 08:50:28 PM
You made Basketball as example but why there are very few players like Micheal Jordan and Kobe Bryant? because they are gifted and thats it

I'm not sure I understand your point

However, I wouldn't call either Micheal Jordan or Kobe Bryant short with their listed heights of 1.98 m (I checked, yeah). Well, maybe they are not the tallest basketball players on the planet, but I doubt they would be able to accomplish their feats if they were just like ordinary men in height. But don't make an obvious logical fallacy of assuming that just being tall enough guarantees your success as a basketball player (which you seem to be doing anyway). Being tall is only one of the gifts you have to possess, necessary but definitely not sufficient
1367  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 500$ - 30,000$ Gambling Challenge on: May 17, 2020, 08:22:42 PM
If you bet 4 satoshi and win with 49031x multiplier, then you would win 196k satoshi only, which is less than 20 backs. Correct?
What a strange way to spend time Smiley I guess you gamble just to gamble, but not to win a lot

It is the fact itself that you can win on so high a multiplier

And if you win it before making so many bets (which is the hope here as far as I can tell), that basically proves that you are a lucky person, all in all. Then you will feel happy, like a chosen one, even if only for a brief period of time. This is basically what makes you into a gambler -- no mater how much or how long you lose, it is this rare moment when you are a winner that counts in your own frame of reference and in your internal value system (lucky or not)
1368  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: During a bull market, cash out in what? on: May 17, 2020, 05:16:34 PM
However, the market is still unpredictable these days. Anything can happen in a matter of seconds, whether if it’s a pump or dump. The cryptocurrency market is highly volatile, so we have to put only an amount that we could afford losing

This market has always been unpredictable

And the utter irony is not so much that it is unpredictable per se (which it still is) as it is unpredictable to you or me personally, or us collectively. When we set our targets, we typically think that it is highly unlikely that the market will crash lower or surge higher. Really, how many people in early 2017 could foresee in their mind's eye that Bitcoin would reach almost 20k by the end of that year? Not many. Conversely, who could say in late February this yeas that Bitcoin would flash crash below 4k a couple weeks later? As few, if not fewer
1369  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: House Edge vs. Luck - the Last Stand on: May 17, 2020, 04:42:16 PM
But let's talk about your strategy once again. Are you sure you can earn 10% of your balance monthly with it? Because that would be a bold statement. Many people are dreaming of such an income, especially if almost no risk involved. And you are saying that you created a gambling strategy which can ensure it?

Yes, I think it's feasible because (as I already explained on numerous occasions) you earn via outliers aka variance, not by collecting dust here and there. Ultimately, it depends on betting speeds (the faster the better)

Let's assume that the bankroll needed is the highest bet you made times two:

BANKROLL = [HIGHEST BET] X 2

(if you disagree, let's discuss it, but I think it's a safe assumption)

Can you say that, given the above definition of bankroll, you can make 10% of it monthly in profits?

I'm not sure I understand what you are getting at

I had seen it only a couple times at the very beginning when I actually had to bet everything if that is your point. After that, it was only half a dozen times when I had only 3 or 4 doublings left until bust. How much I earned in these cases in relative terms, you can calculate yourself. Strictly speaking, I was not doubling but increasing at something like 130% on a roughly 40% win chance (and compounding). I was actually able to increase my balance a few times within the three months' time span (I started with free doges), though I don't think I was using trully house-proof settings
1370  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Pun & Fun Thread on: May 17, 2020, 04:07:12 PM


When one door closes and another one opens, you are probably in prison
1371  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling hiding, rules ignored. on: May 17, 2020, 03:47:54 PM
Strangely, the hour to 01 (night), I saw one by one people continue to arrive and enter the casino building, finally I also went in to see what was done by that person, at the end of the story the person put up a bet and gambled.
That's what gambling addicts do, even though the government forbids people from visiting casinos, however, ignoring them, in their minds betting and gambling, ignoring the rules

Can't say anything about casinos

As there are none over here. However, I can tell you that it is the same story with gyms. I have keys from one such gym, and two days ago I went there to have a workout. I tried to unlock the door but it turned out somebody was inside and left the key in the lock from the other side of the door. Finally, I got in, and there were a few guys working out there already. Looks like I wasn't the one or the first one to train behind closed doors and in secrecy
1372  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Pun & Fun Thread on: May 17, 2020, 10:03:34 AM


- Why does Santa Claus have such a big sack?
- He only comes once a year
1373  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Pun & Fun Thread on: May 17, 2020, 10:00:28 AM
Nicholas girls mustn't climb trees!
but they love riding the wood

It must be hard!
1374  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Be a professional gambler on your own way. on: May 17, 2020, 09:36:27 AM
It matters if you are born with a natural leaning toward something, but nothing can probably beat perseverance and determination

Those can play an ugly trick on you

Say, you persevere in and are determined for something which you are not naturally gifted with (like being short and trying to become a world-class basketball player). Then you will only be wasting your time and effort. Put differently, blind perseverance and determination can easily turn into an exercise in stupidity and futility. You should always practice "situational awareness", so to speak, i.e. how well something fits you and how well you fit in

I assume we all have a working brain, sufficient amount of common sense, and enough awareness

But apart from that, you should also use them accordingly

Ironically, it is mostly through luck that you find your "natural leaning toward something", not through the things you mentioned. Otherwise, there wouldn't be such a thing as mid-life crisis at 40 something. People go to college to get a degree and start on a career only to understand in a decade or two later that this is not what they ever wanted. So much for a working brain, common sense and awareness

You do not expect a fish to dream of playing with the birds in the sky. A blind man can dream all he wants but that won't include him joining the professional baseball league as a pitcher. You know what I'm talking about?

In real life, though, there are fifty million shades of gray
1375  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: GAMBLING: Skill-based vs. Chance-based on: May 16, 2020, 05:56:54 PM
But how do you consider sportsbetting in one of these? A skill-based game or a chance game? Coz me personally I think of it on different aspect, when it comes to the player that is playing on field or on the sport it is skill-based game for them, at gambler's end it is a chance game even you have searched a lot of the player's stats you can always win or lose. I also tried sportsbetting on boxing and it didn't end well for me tough I bet on high stat player.

You make a valid point

The fact of life is that different people with different levels of expertise in the same domain look at the same thing quite differently. For an experienced gambler who knows how to take advantage of randomness, the outcome in the games of chance like dice may no longer be a matter of pure luck as it is for the rest of the pack. It can be generalized further in the sense something will be a skill-based game for masters and experts at it, while for laymen and novices it will be more like Russian roulette in reverse, i.e. with only one empty chamber in the revolver
1376  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Be a professional gambler on your own way. on: May 16, 2020, 04:47:43 PM
It matters if you are born with a natural leaning toward something, but nothing can probably beat perseverance and determination

Those can play an ugly trick on you

Say, you persevere in and are determined for something which you are not naturally gifted with (like being short and trying to become a world-class basketball player). Then you will only be wasting your time and effort. Put differently, blind perseverance and determination can easily turn into an exercise in stupidity and futility. You should always practice "situational awareness", so to speak, i.e. how well something fits you and how well you fit in
1377  Economy / Economics / Re: Is Bitcoin the future of the global economy or just another commodity like Gold? on: May 16, 2020, 02:06:08 PM
It is hard to say whether debt is less risky
Well, it is a mainstream consensus, see topics about the cost of debt vs cost of equity.

When the borrower defaults, his debt usually gets written off as that seems to be the whole idea behind a default. Indeed, you can come after the borrower's property or whatever, but typically a default means exactly the opposite, i.e. you can't do anything anymore in legal terms (read, you have to bite the bullet and kiss goodbye to your shekels).
I don't know about your local law, mate. AFAIK, the lender still can seize the collateral in the event of default

I guess it is not so much about differences between local law systems as about our understanding, or misunderstanding, of the term "default" and its legal definition in a specific jurisdiction. Let me just say I generally agree that if a borrower fails to pay on a debt what they were due to pay, the lender can seize the collateral provided there is a collateral

In other words, you can take only so much

Even if there is no collateral, a bankrupt company usually still has some fixed assets that can be sold; therefore, debt holders are entitled to it

A thoroughly bankrupted company typically doesn't have much to offer its lenders
1378  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Альткоины, когда буллран? on: May 16, 2020, 11:56:32 AM
В феврале 2020 - уже по $270-280

Честно признаюсь, что не запомнил имени персонажа

Но зато хорошо запомнил эти цифры. Когда эфир стоил ровно столько в начале нынешнего года, у меня состоялся диалог с кем-то из местных деятелей на подобную тему. Я пытался донести мысль, что такой ценник -- это тот уровень, с которого стоило бы начать выходить из монеты. Как теперь оказалось, на нем фактически уже надо было заканчивать (лично я ожидал, что эфир дорастет до 300 баксов)
1379  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Pun & Fun Thread on: May 16, 2020, 10:21:03 AM


Nicholas girls mustn't climb trees!
1380  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Counting Cards -- a Dirty Cheat or a Legit Skill? on: May 16, 2020, 07:48:38 AM
Also in your example, your friends got killed, so where's the law there? people from casino sometimes put the law in their hands

That makes an interesting case for looking into it deeper

If we are talking about the US casinos, many seem to be run by Native Americans in reservations. And to my knowledge, these Indian tribes have a certain amount of sovereignty, so their reservation can be considered an enclave, i.e. an independent country surrounded by foreign territory. In practical terms, when you turn up there, whatever the reason, you are no longer protected by the federal law. In the end, it may turn out a total no-law zone, and thus you are on your own there (Nevada has its own gambling laws as well)
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