sorry can't resist, but those statements could be applied to Sam as well, am I wrong?
I was we'll aware when I wrote that, but Sam genuinely suffers from dyslexia (difficulty in learning to read fluently and with accurate comprehension despite normal intelligence), yet appears fully capable of overseeing and running multiple departments of a growing company undeterred. He also has the humility to persist in communicating what his customers need to hear despite this set back, and the criticism sustained by those that don't fully acknowledge his disability. didn't mean to star a flame here, I genuinely wasn't aware of Sam's dyslexia. thanks for the info. As far as I'm aware Josh doesn't suffer from dyslexia. He just appears supercilious, foolhardy, and tired with respect to communication. I'm also pretty sure he doesn't oversee day to day operations with Butterfly Labs, so what specifically is his role? I once assumed he was CEO, but he categorically stated he wasn't.
In any case he should be embracing legitimate competition from another continent, he damn well knows his market and his own company require competition to survive.
If I have to be honest i think that our time is not well spent talking about BFL_josh/Inaba imho, it's a matter that really doesn't deserve any kind of attention |
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[strip josh post screenshot]
Keep it going Josh .. I am sure you will continued your little ranting and bad mouth others  What have you done to make others proud of you. ?? Whilst it is important to keep this thread on topic, I feel, once again the need to correct Josh's ability to phrase his intent in English; it's ' at their current unrealistic timeline' Josh, not, 'on their current unrealistic timeline'. Like your last defamatory comment Josh, this is gibberish. What on Earth is up with communication in tech industries? These are meant to be bright people, and I'm struggling to find any with the ability to speak their own language fluently. I'd forgive, or politely assist if it wasn't their mother tongue, or should they have a disability, but Josh is the epitome of a car crash at communication. What exactly is his role within Butterfly Labs?sorry can't resist, but those statements could be applied to Sam as well, am I wrong? |
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Selling my Day 1 shipping Saturn 200GH/sec unit. Bidding starts at 200BTC can use JohnK as escrow if he agrees.
Thanks for looking
200 BTC at current exchange ratio means ~ 17K.... whoaaaa a lot of money IMHO |
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Where is lottery mentioned for Mercurys on KnC site? I must have missed it.
just a joke |
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It looks like KnC is planning on a smaller unit, called Mercury (typo'd on the page). Cost $1,9995 - specs appear to be mis-copied from Jupiter. Check it out.
yep you're right, mis-copied is the right word: "Shipment begins in September"... they really do listen they have already changed the original shipping date from September to October  |
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It looks like KnC is planning on a smaller unit, called Mercury (typo'd on the page). Cost $1,9995 - specs appear to be mis-copied from Jupiter. Check it out.
yep you're right, mis-copied is the right word: "Shipment begins in September"... |
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They are producing 28nm ASIC hardware due to be delivered in Sept/Oct.
The originally advertised 250GH/s for 7-8k USD and ended up promising 350GH/s for under 7k. We are currently awaiting final GH/s estimates (they are hinting that it will end up higher than 350GH/s for the Jupiter unit) and their Power consumption looks to be below initial expectations as well.
they're not hinting GH/s estimate, in the last news they actually said "It is with great pleasure that we can finally announce our Jupiter is now a 400 GH/s device ". You have a point about on the power consumption side since they said: "We have previously specified the power consumption of the Jupiter device at a 1000 watts. We have now received indication from our chip manufacturer that this may be lower." |
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Quote Un Quote :
" Re: KNC Miner - Jupiter device: which PSU are you guys planning on using?
June 19, 2013, 02:46:06 PM
Reply with quote #14
Hi Guys
Sorry for butting in in your discussion but don't buy any power supplies yet.
We will have a large Technical announcement coming next week. Where we will give even more accurate Power figures and GH/s.
It will be a significant announcement which I hope will make all of our customers happy. and no before you ask I wont reveal any details before that newsletter goes out Smiley
again please don't buy a 1200W power supply you simply will not need one that powerful or expensive.
Sam "
From his statement seem like the Asic Chip has not been order?? "We will have a large Technical announcement coming next week. Where we will give even more accurate Power figures and GH/s." ?? are they still playing around with the chip??
the tech ann was already published, look at it here: https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-22 |
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Anyone get information on their position yet? Please post if you have. Lets see what it looks like!
Queue position update
We know you have all been waiting for the shipping queue position update and over the next few days we will be adding a comment to your orders which will give you the day that your boxes will be made, tested and shipped.
For example Day 1/Day 2/Day 3. This will indicate how far from the start of shipping your order will dispatched. This update will not apply to new orders and will only apply to the orders which were based on pre-order registration. All other orders will be dispatched in the order of payment.
since they've just extended the grace period for people who had unpaid order for another 7 days I doubt we'll any news on that front in the next few days |
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This is the chip they are going to use. http://www.asetwn.com.tw/content/2-5-3.htmlAnd one with pictures (the one in the metal can) HFC-BGA 52.5x52.5mm http://www.asetwn.com.tw/content/12.html"Heat spreaders made of Cu with Ni plating or Aluminum, Ceramic, AlSiC..." Yay, we're gonna have a CPU! much like the intel LGA package CPU, with huuuge number of pads We're gonna love it! Finally some company which understands things, not like the cretins at BFL who first chose all plastic packaging, which then smoked due to the heat and then chose bare die on 0.5mm BGA, and they plan to "neatly" arrange them in a grid, OLOLOL... (they imagine the chip surfaces will be in the same orientation and nothing bad will happen.... just try it...) EDIT: yes, I believe they had already done a chip in that package, the one they were talking about, which I won't get into talking about. from where do you know that? have you googled for chip size and the HFC-BGA name? idee2013, Check out this link... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by-je8XRCdYI've only given it a quick glance to it but I'm not able to understand how Bagpipe was capable of getting both manufacturer name and exact chip model from the video... it could be me |
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Reading that makes me more likely to trade BTC for gold. I buy when the market tanks and sell when it soars. I divested of it a few months back when it was clearly at a silly high. Perhaps it is time to buy back in. Hmmm.  It's predicted it will fall to around $1000, so hold on before you buy. do you have any source to back this claim? just corious |
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are you just daydreaming or did you find this 100GH/s per chip number somewhere in the hundreds of pages of smoke? That seems impossibly high no?
quoting the relevant part of yesterday's newsletter ("Chip Progress report" paragraph)
This means that we can achieve a minimum of 100GH/s per chip. Which we think most people will agree, puts us far ahead of our current competitors.
Can you tell me where to find this newsletter? Thanks. and if you are subscribed to their mailing list, yesterday you should have received an email with the exact same text you'll find on the link above |
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are you just daydreaming or did you find this 100GH/s per chip number somewhere in the hundreds of pages of smoke? That seems impossibly high no?
quoting the relevant part of yesterday's newsletter ("Chip Progress report" paragraph)
This means that we can achieve a minimum of 100GH/s per chip. Which we think most people will agree, puts us far ahead of our current competitors.
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Interesting I just noticed on my orders detail page it shows a kind of grayed out 34 right under my order Qty of 1 of a Jupiter...
Wonder what the 34 means? Could it mean at the time I ordered and paid, I was the 34th Jupiter ordered and paid for??? Surely not as I ordered June 19th... Unless the Saturn's have a lot more orders???Product Price per unit Amount Price
Saturn
34
$ 3,795.00 1 $ 3,795.00
Order price: $ 3,795.00
Shipping price: $ 102.60
Comments to order
Total price: $ 3,897.60
SKU code. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock_keeping_unitand more to the point it's present in the product page also if you're not logged in. |
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So basically they won't give you a shipping que.. until you paid the order. But they will remove your order after 7 days? What's the point then. after 7 days you can reorder anyway.. or am I missing something?
The point is don't place an order unless you can pay. Why would they give people shipping priority over someone who paid immediately? Makes no sense. I think they were talking about the famous "pre order" made on early april. From what i've understand they are giving another chance to those who didn't understand they had to convert those "pre order" to real one before june the 20th. |
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They also remove the reference to water cooling from the spec details. Last time i've checked, last week, it was still there
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No, none of those. you left out a big part of the world, though |
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Name and country + Social engineering + luck = possible burglary The other day I was trying to imagine the way they will disclose info about lottery winners, and to be honest I didn't come with any clever solutions to get the right balance between winners's privacy and process transparency. I'm quite curious to see their solution Surely initials/surname and city/state, or forum name and city/state. No need to be too specific. And congrats whoever the winners are... Will see. I know people who have quite peculiar surname. edit: Obviously I forgot... congrats to the winners |
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Name and country + Social engineering + luck = possible burglary The other day I was trying to imagine the way they will disclose info about lottery winners, and to be honest I didn't come with any clever solutions to get the right balance between winners's privacy and process transparency. I'm quite curious to see their solution |
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