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821  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: November 26, 2013, 03:19:26 PM
Lol i get 255$ for UPS in EU, how many gets USA folks
 
And yes there is only btc payment, no way

There is bank transfer but they provide no re-assurance that you will keep your place in line with that option. One would assume from the last time that it is the case though.

Where did you read that? Did you call them ?
822  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: November 26, 2013, 03:18:38 PM
how many coins do you guys think it will generate overall for 1 Neptune and how long will it take to break even when it delivers

Suppose you'll be able to start hashing the first of april (*) and taking into account the estimate made here by D&T (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=283820.0)
we should have almost 30 PH/s network hash rate. that means a difficulty of circa 4.285 billion, let say 5 billion just to be sure. At that diff level will produce 0.3017 a day.

I leave the rest as exercise for the readers Tongue

(*) first of april it's quite optimistic estimate.

Here's the estimate thread I've been a part of, particularly the first round results (I was nearly to the penny on the estimate): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=272768.msg3409229#msg3409229

And my next projection: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=272768.msg3442350#msg3442350

And for anyone who can do basic math, yeah April is going to be a shitfest for difficulty. This is why I don't understand folks are thinking first month mining will be 12.. 15.. 20 btc.

what do you about 30 PH/s estimate for the end of March 2014?
823  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: November 26, 2013, 03:06:34 PM
how many coins do you guys think it will generate overall for 1 Neptune and how long will it take to break even when it delivers

Suppose you'll be able to start hashing the first of april (*) and taking into account the estimate made here by D&T (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=283820.0)
we should have almost 30 PH/s network hash rate. that means a difficulty of circa 4.285 billion, let say 5 billion just to be sure. At that diff level will produce 0.3017 a day.

I leave the rest as exercise for the readers Tongue

(*) first of april it's quite optimistic estimate.
824  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: November 26, 2013, 02:46:20 PM
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... and you can refund up to shipment

Which we know was a lie last time around.

Not exactly, you were able to refund to the point the list was sent to the facility to process your order for assembly.

as of now there's only bitpay as payment method despite the fact in the news they mention also bank wire
825  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: As of now Bitcoin is mentioned 5 times in the top 20 on Hackernews. on: November 26, 2013, 02:28:30 PM
Trend continue today Nov 26 at 14:24 UTC it he main HN page we have 5  in the first 28 posts. 

Bitcoin and Gold   
Show HN: Live Bitcoin Transactions from around the globe in WebGL *Up again*
Coinbase to Waive All Fees on 11/29/13 in Support of Bitcoin Black Friday
Bitcoin Black Friday: Why Namecheap is Participating
How Money Moves Around The Banking System
826  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: November 26, 2013, 01:11:06 PM
So is anyone seeing a preorder page yet?

someone has a tip for a good page alert?

use this qry string "page monitor chrome extension". google will give you all the details.
827  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: November 26, 2013, 12:11:36 PM

Looks good, but every hardware is different with respect to dud cores. Some is golden and some is scat.

ck, can you elaborate a little on the difference in behaviour & reporting between the 3.8.2 tuned and non-tuned on a KnC miner?
Reporting between the two is identical.

The tuned one simply changes the decision making process about when to turn a core off and back on. Firstly it turns all cores on every time it's starting. However it turns cores off very quickly instead of after many errors, but turns cores off in a staggered fashion a few seconds apart. Then it turns them back on after only a minute, but will only turn cores back on if no core on/off has happened for the last minute staggering them much more to turn them back on. My observations were that turning dud cores off always helps the hashrate so making it easier to turn cores off made sense, but with rapid changes to the number of cores on/off, the power going to the units changes wildly when in fact the device will be more stable if it only ever changes power requirements slowly, hence the changes. It also increases the duration cores are off every time they fail before disabling them permanently (for that run of cgminer).

Anyway I find the hashrate and consequently the hardware error rate keeps improving over time as only the decent cores are left hashing, and cores that are borderline turn on and off intermittently in a staggered way that doesn't change the power requirements dramatically.

I've to say that Slush really like cgminer-tune, despite the fact I get lower hashrate @cgminer interface, slush is telling that my 2 jups are minting at 1.12TH/s. With prev cgminer version I was barely able to get 1.09TH/s.


edit: fix a typo
828  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: November 26, 2013, 11:54:37 AM
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Existing customers will get a discount on the boxes, and they will also receive their products around two or three weeks earlier than the competition. There will be no trade-in program.

Pre-orders open today, Cole said, ...


I'm happy to hear that early investors will get a discount but I'm less happy to learn it through  a third party what I'm supposed to learn by a proper communication sent directly by KnCminer.

Having said that, let's see what they have to offer Tongue  

829  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: November 26, 2013, 11:13:29 AM
anyone getting weird results/hash rate at eligius Huh

I gave up on Eligius a day ago. Can't stand all the variance, and luck seems to be crappy lately. Switched to 7.5% fee BTC Guild PPS for now.

Hit mineb.tc for 5% PPS, rock solid pool.

I've just checked since I have an unused account @mineb and I found out that a block that took 13hs to be solved was orphaned. a real pity. it happened to me also in other pools (e.g. slush), nonetheless a real pity.
830  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: November 25, 2013, 04:27:55 PM

My big question would be: is KNC going to offer any kind of discounts for the late October delivery customers, the ones that suffered the big losses? I mean, I personally paid $131200 at current exchange rate for 1Th/s

Learn to hedge.  That is an 'all-in' mentality that will always leave you chasing bets

Perhaps it would of been better to buy one Jupiter and keep the rest in BTC?  But then you probably would of sold that BTC a couple months ago when it doubled and then said more coulda shouldas



I'll be as honest as possible with my reply: I bought my miners first of all hoping to get a profit in BTC (I was terribly wrong, helped a bit by KNC production delays that were affecting the late customers much harder than the ones at the beginning of the queue) and secondly for the thrill of mining Smiley Kind of expensive caprice I'd say... I'm currently sitting on a nice amount of BTC that I started buying long ago, back when the exchange rate was abour $10/BTC. I still have NO intention to sell them as I strongly believe BTC is still going to get value.
If there are miners out there willing to take losses in BTC for the sake of $ gains, my offer still stands: send me 100 BTC now and I promise I'll send you back 60 BTC once the value of BTC doubles. No hassle, no electricity cost, no hardware failures!

ROTFL !
831  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: November 25, 2013, 04:23:10 PM


No details. Coming SoonTM

Wow!  20nm AND early 2014!

That MUST be the "incoming news" announcement from 'orama.

Bingo!

sorry for lame question: but how soon is soon ?  Tongue
832  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: November 25, 2013, 04:01:00 PM
now to make the day perfect, knc should announce a sort of fidelity program for the early adopters and just after that release the tuning suite Tongue
833  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: November 25, 2013, 03:17:18 PM

this is big Tongue
834  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: November 25, 2013, 02:48:21 PM
Heads-up for tomo BTW - incoming...

Day is almost over, what ya got?

+1
835  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: As og now is Bitcoin mentioned 5 times in the top 20 on Hackernews. on: November 25, 2013, 02:03:18 PM
The top posters used to be quite hostile toward bitcoin there, and believed it would go nowhere, at least when I still frequented it ~ 1 year ago.
Some paradigm shift happening there.

yeah it seems that some sort of shift in the attitude of big karma users is happening.... at least till the next correction in price Tongue
836  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / As of now Bitcoin is mentioned 5 times in the top 20 on Hackernews. on: November 25, 2013, 01:53:59 PM
It's a trend that is going for the last week or so



edit: fix grammar in the subject
837  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: November 25, 2013, 12:48:54 PM
The error seems to have been thrown by /etc/init.d/cgminer.sh
I can't seem to reproduce it right now.  Instead I am getting "-sh: etc/init.d/cgminer: not found"  however "less /etc/init.d/cgminer.sh" gives:

It seems you've missed the leading slash before etc, no?

just execute the command:

Code:
/etc/init.d/cgminer.sh restart 




It seems you've missed the leading slash before etc, YES?  Stupid error

Results:

root@Jupiter-3D0:~# /etc/init.d/cgminer.sh restart
Restarting Cgminer daemon: killall: cgminer: no process killed
Error: Write failed


root@Jupiter-3D0:~# /etc/init.d/cgminer.sh start
Starting Cgminer daemon: Error: Write failed


root@Jupiter-3D0:~# /etc/init.d/cgminer.sh stop
Stopping Cgminer daemon: killall: cgminer: no process killed
cgminer.

TaggedYa

strange.

since there're a lot of things going on when you issue a cgminer.sh start and a lot of those are related with the initialization of the asic boards I'm afraid that there's something wrong going on in this phase.
this are all the tasks performed:

Code:
root@lucas:~# fgrep \# /etc/init.d/cgminer.sh 
#!/bin/sh
        # Stop SPI poller
        # CLear faults in megadlynx's
                        # Re-enable PLL
                        # re-enable all cores
                        # Disable PLL
                        # disable all cores
        # Disable direct SPI
        # Enable SPI poller

all of them involved some sort of i2cset command executions.

If I were you I would join #kncminer channel on freenode and try to ask hno (an OrSoC eng) if he have an idea of what's going on.






838  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: November 25, 2013, 12:18:40 PM
The error seems to have been thrown by /etc/init.d/cgminer.sh
I can't seem to reproduce it right now.  Instead I am getting "-sh: etc/init.d/cgminer: not found"  however "less /etc/init.d/cgminer.sh" gives:

It seems you've missed the leading slash before etc, no?

just execute the command:

Code:
/etc/init.d/cgminer.sh restart 


839  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: November 25, 2013, 10:24:26 AM
from #kncminer channel

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10:45 < btcoco> any rig worth investment atm?
10:55 < hno> btcoco, depends on how you think the BTC price will evolve and associated risks. Unfortunately KnCMiner is all sold out at the moment, but there will
             be more available in some weeks I think.


for who doesn't know hno is a OrSoC eng. This going to be big, potentially  Tongue


nothing new if in some weeks means March

sure you're right if he meant to say a few months ... I suppose that the only thing we can do is waiting for official news. time will tell.
840  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: November 25, 2013, 09:59:14 AM
from #kncminer channel

Quote
10:45 < btcoco> any rig worth investment atm?
10:55 < hno> btcoco, depends on how you think the BTC price will evolve and associated risks. Unfortunately KnCMiner is all sold out at the moment, but there will
             be more available in some weeks I think.


for who doesn't know hno, he's an OrSoC engineer. This going to be big, potentially  Tongue



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