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1381  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Errol Spence vs Keith Thurman on: March 02, 2023, 06:18:27 PM
Thurman ducked Spence for years when he was the champion and they were both under Al Haymon.

Thurman has always been scared of Spence and knows he'll got KO'ed.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Spence stops him out easily if they ever fight.

We cannot really confirm that whether if it is true or not, those are just speculations made in the past and up until now.

Besides, we cannot really blame Thurman if he didn't gave Spence a chance for a title shot few years back because back at the day, welterweight is still a pretty stacked-up division. You got names like Pacquiao and Mayweather on the same division, while Spence at that time was still a hotshot haven't got a chance because a fight with him is not profitable. You know that boxing is always business first.

Yes, and on the other hand, there are reports saying that Spence duck Thurman when he become a champion. So we really don't know who duck who during Thurman's prime and reign as 147 lbs. They are still both under Al Haymon, but we all know that Spence is now the A-side in that stable.

But now we will have a chance to see it, maybe it was 2-3 years late though, as Thurman got injured and then he fight Manny because that is the biggest paycheck for him.

Right! That is the trouble now because Spence Jr. still got the bigger slice of the cake even if he doesn't have anything to offer at 154 because he is not the champion, it's Jermell Charlo. To be fair, they both belong to the same stable, the PBC, so this fight should be in plain 50-50 even if Spence is called the PPV King as there's no risks in this fight. These governing bodies should uphold their name and provide a fair and square fight, but I guess that's really too much to ask these days.
1382  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: March 02, 2023, 05:48:29 PM
There is no doubt that both the Asian countries of Japan and South Korea are continuously striving to build their national teams, and both of them are striving to make their teams more organized than their Asian counterparts. As far as I know, of all the Asian teams they have played in the world cups, South Korea is the only one they have ever managed to play in a semi-final in 2002. I guess they would have been able to play better in the last world cup, and I'm eager to see what will happen in 2026.

Japan and South Korea have become stagnant since the 2000s. The teams that are showing the maximum improvement from Asia are Saudi Arabia, Australia and Iraq. And some of the most promising ones are United Arab Emirates and Uzbekistan. In terms of ranking, Japan, South Korea and Iran are at the top, but I am not witnessing much improvement in the quality of their game for the past many years. Both Japan and South Korea win a match each against stronger sides in Qatar 2022, but they found it hard to maintain momentum.

The reason why Japan and South Korea could get more progress is the plan they got and the hard work they do to stick to the plan they have. It is still quite common for other teams and countries like Saudi Arabia to spend much more money than other teams in similar fields in Asia. This is why, based on the investment they have made in these years, it is quite normal for them to be showing more improvement as compared to other teams.

I think it's because Japan and South Korea is not giving any priorities nor funds to their football clubs because the said sports didn't belong to the country's top favorites, I mean, we can see it in the SEA games where their soccer/football team is really not that good. Aside from that, the named countries are taking more focus on their economic growth as they don't have that much funds like the Saudi Arabia does where they have the luxury to spend millions on their national team.
1383  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Invest in Bitcoin by selling wife's jewelry on: March 01, 2023, 06:49:49 PM
Bitcoin will cross $100k after halving in 2024 ie if I invest $3000 in Bitcoin now then there is a chance of getting 10x after 2024.
Just be careful OP because that specific statement is not guaranteed, the prediction is just likely to happen but not really 100% where you can say that it's a guaranteed profits. There will be some instances that the bull might start running in 2025 and not directly take effect after the halving in 2024.

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At present I am forced to sell my wife's jewelery as I have no fiat money.
I guess it's the other way around my friend because you are the one who convinced your wife to sell her jewelries.

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whether selling my wife's jewelery and investing on bitcoins makes sense? Is it reasonable to invest in gold rather than bitcoin?
Yes, it's a good idea because bitcoin is more volatile than gold and yes, much expensive than the gold especially in the future. But please, do remind your wife that these things are not guaranteed as this investment is really a gamble as we really don't know what will happen in the future. But as long as you're not hasty, you will be blessed to reap some good juicy profits.
1384  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: February 28, 2023, 07:18:42 PM
They beat a good team, the Dallas Mavericks, so there's no reason they can't win against other tough teams. They are sharing the ball well, and LeBron does not have to carry his team; he just has to play his normal game. There's not much pressure on him, but they still win games because they follow the system.

Not good to be honest. If they are against a tough team and downed by that same points, they won't surely be able to bounce back. The effectiveness of what happened in the recent trade will just be seen if they will keep winning consistently. However though, they are currently on a 3-game winning streak and to make sure to keep up with the good standing, they need to aggressively win their next games.

Their next game is against Memphis Grizzlies. The Lakers won their first meetup by only 1 point with no Anthony Davis and Westbrook is the second-best player in that game next to LeBron James. With Davis on board for the next game, let's see how that game will be turned out.

Yes, it's still to early to decide whether that recent trade they made was right for the team but honestly, I'm already having an impression that this present roster is much more reliable compared to what they had at the start of this season. But still, we will see if they are already reliable to have a good streak and consistent enough on their performance because their next game is against the Grizz which is not an easy team to get by and now the Lakers got another trouble as LeBron can't play for some games due to the injury that he caught in the game versus the Mavs while D'Lo is still listed as probable.
1385  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Errol Spence vs Keith Thurman on: February 28, 2023, 04:27:29 PM
Thurman ducked Spence for years when he was the champion and they were both under Al Haymon.

Thurman has always been scared of Spence and knows he'll got KO'ed.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Spence stops him out easily if they ever fight.

We cannot really confirm that whether if it is true or not, those are just speculations made in the past and up until now.

Besides, we cannot really blame Thurman if he didn't gave Spence a chance for a title shot few years back because back at the day, welterweight is still a pretty stacked-up division. You got names like Pacquiao and Mayweather on the same division, while Spence at that time was still a hotshot haven't got a chance because a fight with him is not profitable. You know that boxing is always business first.
1386  Economy / Economics / Re: Untouchable Savings: Do you have it? on: February 27, 2023, 08:16:24 PM
I am not sure - who are the lucky people who would have a untouched saving..
I dont even hav an emergency fund
Because I have a loose hand and a loss mind. and people get money from me and I give it to them
And you also don't need to be sure of that, because anyone who has untouched savings also doesn't talk about his assets in public and say he's a philanthropist like you say. If you give money to other people for free without a good reason, it will only look amazing to those who receive it. Whereas those who give it will only get a few words of generosity from people who know it, but more ridiculous in my opinion.
Probably, people who have untouched savings prefer to stay low key and do not brag much about their achievements. So we can’t tell exactly as who are these lucky people as they tend to look poor than to make people believe that they are rich and wealthy, with all those untouched savings reserved for their future. But tbh, people only save because they have goals in the future, and that savings are still going to be spend when the perfect amount is being reached.
1387  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is trading good for beginners? on: February 27, 2023, 07:50:11 PM
There's a reason why a huge majority of people lose tremendous amounts of money with trading — simply because it's not easy and it's definitely not for everyone.

Seriously, trading is overrated. Go get a job or start a business instead. Unless you want to grind for more than a year and shoulder the losses while you're still learning.
And with this realization, it’s obvious that trading is not good for beginners as trading would only end up as a mess. Trading is not easy, and it should be learned the hard way, and I think beginners are not capable to dominate in trading until they become knowledgeable and skilled in it. And with significant experiences that will make them better trader, then most likely that these traders will gain more profits rather than seeing them consistently making mistakes and end up losing their capital.
1388  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: My father thinks I'm working in a shop,he didn't know I'm bitcointalking. on: February 27, 2023, 07:18:35 PM
Signature campaigns are suitable as side jobs that support the main job. I support that, but some people treat signature campaigns as their main job without anything else.
On your last point it's clear to me not the best option. But has anyone made signature campaign their main source of income?
With no other work like being unemployed, I think it's fine to make signature campaigns the main source of income (for a while). But when they leave their main job and rely solely on signature campaign as source of income, it's clearly a bad decision.

Signature campaign won't last forever and will expire, so you shouldn't rely solely on signature campaign as source of revenue. The best thing is to make signature campaign side activity while chatting with thousands of different users on forum.
Signature campaigns can provide us good source of income but we should not rely from it completely since everything might be unstable and uncertain in the future. If you can’t get a well compensated job, then try to create a chain of businesses where you are skilled and you have high knowledge on how to manage it. That way, even if signature campaign stops working, you will still have other sources of income that will generate and provide you some decent amount of income.
1389  Economy / Economics / Re: Money and education on: February 27, 2023, 06:58:58 PM
Education does not guarantee you a successful future, but education is necessary and a solid springboard for you to start life. Today, many college graduates are unemployed, but not all, many still have jobs even while attending college. That means that in addition to degrees and knowledge, we need to have many more skills, and skills are not the same for everyone. Sometimes education is not necessarily a university graduate, or getting a degree, education is the knowledge that you can learn outside of society.
Education is only your first step, since a lot of big companies would prefer to give you great opportunities because you are a professional and bachelor degree holder. But it won’t be the final basis that you will be successful in the future, as a lot of people today who are not even professionals are also living in luxuries. Everything is still based on our own strategies in life. If you are a very resourceful individual and you have certain skills that are in demand, you will still be successful in life with or without formal education.
1390  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it good to accept crypto as a payment? on: February 27, 2023, 06:35:22 PM
Since I've known bitcoin, I think that's how long I've considered it good for adopted means of payment.
Maybe the problem is the regulations differ from country to country. I can't expect many shops or shopping centers in my country to adopt bitcoin as a means of payment, bitcoin is illegal as a legal currency here.

So in the end I can draw the conclusion that whether or not bitcoin is adopted as a means of payment depends only on how the government regulates it. If it is legal, then you can expect to benefit from adoption and increased demand at your services.
My country is not actually banning the use of bitcoin although it’s not completely accepted as an official currency. But if you decide to accept bitcoin payment in your business, you are free to do so. The government won’t have nothing to do about it. However, still most of the shops or stores here are majority accepting fiat payment, though some few ones are now slowly adopting bitcoin as a payment system.
1391  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Crypto Market on the Rise, But Proceed with Caution! on: February 26, 2023, 09:45:36 PM
Still a bear for Bitcoin, as a log run. Although Bitcoin is positive in the short term. Since there hasn't been a significant decline this year, Bitcoin's growth has essentially been organic. Because Bitcoin keeps growing without ever declining, we should proceed cautiously. Although I initially believed it to be a trap, it appears I was mistaken and it is growing. Given that it is impossible to forecast when the price of bitcoin will hit its lowest point, we cannot declare that it has not. Proceed with caution, especially while dealing with altcoin. Altcoins will suffer if Bitcoin crashes even slightly.
Regardless of any market condition, it’s still best to deal the market with more caution so you won’t fall in any trap and see yourself losing in the end. Although I must say the market is showing a positive price increase these days, but knowing the fact that there is high volatility that will trigger the market any time, so we should always learn to be more cautious and mindful whether we are yet to start our investments or start the trading activity.
1392  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Errol Spence vs Keith Thurman on: February 25, 2023, 08:10:05 PM
Reinstated by the WBC, Conor Benn immediately goes after Errol Spence Jr

His future with Errol Spence is not yet in the horizon as the latter already a fight that would likely happen in April, no date yet as of now, but both camps already got themselves a fight because this is a mandatory defense fight for Spence. But the twist is, he got his own way make Al Haymon influence the governing body to make the fight happen at 154 where he got no belts at all yet it's still labeled as mandatory defense.

If there is someone that Conor Benn should target, it's be his domestic rival Eubank Jr. They supposedly to fight, until Benn was supposedly caught with PEDs. And so that fight is cancelled and they look for Liam Smith as a replacement. Unfortunately, Smith knockout Eubank.

Conor Benn is a decent boxer with nice record while having a 60+ percent KO ratio. But his campaign to make a fight with Errol Spence might not come into fruition as it's already widely speculated that sooner, he will vacate his belts at 147.

Benn is a 154 lbs, unless Spence will really stick to this division, they might fight in the future.

Or maybe Spence will still be at 147 lbs because he has unfinished business there.

That was already a history, Conor Benn should just accept his fate that needs to refresh his skills first before going to a much stronger opponent as his records and value will be at heavy risk if he does that. And a small correction though, Benn is still a 147 division and he haven't made any recent fights at 154 before he was caught with PEDs. Still though, he should start at a much safer fight as a hasty move for now will not be worth it.
1393  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Tommy Fury - February 26 in Saudi Arabia on: February 25, 2023, 07:40:18 PM
Jake Paul has made a bet with Tommy Fury that if Tommy Fury wins he gets double the paycheck but if he loses he gets nothing. They both shaked hands on the deal so I do not know if that is legally binding but there is video evidence of it happening but both fighters look confident going into this fight. Tommy Fury does not normally get as angry as he was in the build up to this fight so I am excited to see if he can use that anger in the ring against Jake Paul.

I am no lawyer nor do I have any kind of law degree or education but it would seem logical to me that even a verbal contract is a binding one. And the fact that they shook hands on that agreement and acknowledged AND that it will recorded on video is more than enough proof of a legally binding agreement. The bet must be honored. If the loser of the bet chickens out and tries to go back on his word, then those actions should have legal consequences for that man.

Not to mention the amount of honor and fans the loser will lose if he goes back on his word. People don't like liars like that who go back on their promises...



I agree, there's no need for a paper and pen to make the bet legal. I ain't a lawyer either or a person that do knows all the loopholes about the law but mostly, a video containing a verbal agreement as an evidence is more than enough to file for a claim in-case the losing side will suddenly chicken out after the fact that they shook their hands to make the deal happen. The losing side just can't make up any good excuse to justify their actions, just in-case.

In this instance, the losing side will not just lose all the possible money he could get but the reward as well such as a promise from the WBC that the winner will be included in the rankings and that means everything as it's a door of opportunity.
1394  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Figueroa vs Magsayo WBC Interim Featherweight Title (March 4) on: February 25, 2023, 06:20:46 PM
You guys are measuring the wrong way. Yes they might be both coming from a RECENT loss but lets look at both of their track records over years. Obviously Figueroa might have been on a bad luck streak just like Magsayo, but Magsayo's history is less flawed by a 1 fight (draw). So how does one even compare the two histories? Its hard to tell but Figueroa has been showing more weakness in the recent past, so my money is on Magsayo.

Just because he recently had some bad luck in his fight against Vargas and has finally gotten 1 loss does not make this an eventuality which will happen again. 24 wins 1 loss. Cmon.

But looking at the statistics, even though Figueroa has one draw, his knockout record is more impressive than Magsayo.  Besides, Figueroa is taller and has a reach advantage, if Figueroa mimic the strategy of Vargas, I believe Magsayo will have a huge problem in this fight.

I definitely agree! All boxers have their own failure in this industry and the good thing about them is that they aren't measured by the loss they had but with what they did after the loss they experienced. Both Figueroa and Magsayo came from an unfortunate situation, both boxers didn't want that for sure but they needed it because by that, they will be molded as a much better boxer. But since we are here speculating and putting some bets, my money also goes for Magsayo even if he will be listed as favorite, it will still be Magsayo.

When it comes to betting, I will also go with Magsayo not because I think he is a better boxer but because he is a fellow countryman, and I do that to show my support


That is if Figueroa can mimic the strategy of Vargas and give a hard time to Magsayo but we all know that Figueroa is more like an open book because he's been showing a lot of weaknesses lately than the latter. He might have a good KO ratio but when it comes to ring IQ, I will still side with Magsayo. While for my betting opinion and option, Magsayo is also a fellow countryman but I will bet on him not just because of that fact alone but because I do believe on his talent and that he will beat Figueroa.

Both have different styles and so I doubt that Brandon will mimic the style of Rey Vargas just to win. He has his own way or strategizing in this fight and fight Magsayo the way he knows it.

But for sure it will be his volume punching again, nothing will change a lot here, that's already what we call bread and butter, and that style has been working for him for many years except against Fulton who took all his best shots and received some as well.

Figueroa's trainer might got another way how to utilize the skill that he have because they both know that they cannot follow everything that Vargas has done to Magsayo when they first clashed with each other. They will just pick a thing or two from that fight that they think that could help Figueroa's skills to enhance his chances towards Magsayo. Let's just expect about it already as Vargas is not the same with Figueroa, so it's given that they will have a different kind of approach.
1395  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: February 25, 2023, 04:01:48 PM
But apparently, Bivol is willing to go down to 168 lbs and fight Canelo as long as Alvarez is willing to put his belt on the line.

That makes sense since it's already clear from the start that Bivol will only take the rematch against Canelo with the belt on the line.

But I'm not aware of it honestly that Bivol is willing to go down. As far as my knowledge is concerned, it's Canelo's camp doing the run.

Regardless though, a fight with Beterbiev or Canelo is a good one for Bivol. Let's see.

I wonder if the governing bodies will agree about that if ever Canelo is indeed open to welcome and host the fight between him and Bivol at 168 because AFAIK, the current stand about the Russian boxers is that they are barred from fighting for a title, that's why WBC is making a statement that they wouldn't allow unification fight between Bivol vs Beterbiev. But when it comes to Canelo, it's just okay? Let's see about that.
1396  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: February 24, 2023, 08:01:04 PM
Plenty of reports that are saying we won’t see Durant on the floor for the Suns until at least Sunday, with a debut next Wednesday even a possibility. I want to see them in action, but with Booker just back in the lineup I can understand why they want to take it slow. I’m glad I’ll be able to see Durant play a lot more. Maybe even in person.

Yes, I also checked it out and indeed, Kevin Durant is reportedly set to make make Suns debut on March 1.. Fans are waiting patiently what would be the outcome of Durant's trade to the Valley of Suns and fortunately, we already have a date about it as he will likely make his debut on the road versus Charlotte Hornets.

Currently, the Suns is on the 5th seed of the West and just a game away from the 4th seed which is occupied by the LA Clippers. The next couple of weeks will be fun as the West is starting to get tighter because of the recent trade.

It's gonna be a wild wild west again this time. Everyone for sure have eyes on the Western conference. The Suns may never make a huge impact on Durant acquisition for the remainder of the season, but come playoffs, they will definitely be one of the hardest if not the hardest team to beat in the West.
Imo, they are not just really strong on papers, but they could make it work this time, most probably.

I do agree that the Suns chances to get themselves a spot in the playoffs has increased because of their recent acquisition of Durant and the same goes for their chances not to get choked in the 1st round of eliminations. We all know that Kevin Durant is a playmaker and in every team he lands on, it's expected that it will be a great team granting that he is now included in the equation. So hopefully, Kevin Durant will not get drag with CP3's problem as he tend be inconsistent once they get a series games.
1397  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Errol Spence vs Keith Thurman on: February 24, 2023, 07:36:06 PM
Reinstated by the WBC, Conor Benn immediately goes after Errol Spence Jr

His future with Errol Spence is not yet in the horizon as the latter already a fight that would likely happen in April, no date yet as of now, but both camps already got themselves a fight because this is a mandatory defense fight for Spence. But the twist is, he got his own way make Al Haymon influence the governing body to make the fight happen at 154 where he got no belts at all yet it's still labeled as mandatory defense.

Conor Benn is a decent boxer with nice record while having a 60+ percent KO ratio. But his campaign to make a fight with Errol Spence might not come into fruition as it's already widely speculated that sooner, he will vacate his belts at 147.
1398  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: February 24, 2023, 06:40:43 PM
^ Yes, Eddie Hearn wanted a Bivol vs Beterbiev and so is Bob Arum, so let's see how they are going to work it out.

Its just for now it's complicated as Bivol is targeting Canelo as well, either 168 or 175 lbs. And then Callum Smith is also coming into the horizon and also looking for a big payday against Beterbiev. We wait how the Smith vs Stepien result will be though, if he wins maybe Bivol is willing to fight him instead of waiting for Bivol.

That was Eddie Hearn's first plans but after weighing somethings, he suddenly changed his mind because as of now, he have another play in mind.

But for Canelo, he is not yet on the equation as he still have a tune-up fight incoming with a boxer named Ryder and it's not yet scheduled nor his camp made any attempts to make a discussion to make the fight possible. So possibly, Canelo is still feeling his wrist and is likely taking some time to fully heal it.

Anyway, what we have here about the proposed fight mentioned above is not yet final. Maybe in the next couple of weeks, we might see a done deal between the said camps.
1399  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Tommy Fury - February 26 in Saudi Arabia on: February 24, 2023, 04:57:57 PM
They just had their first face to face at the press conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho4nda7fLJg

What I found funny/interesting is Jake proposed a double or nothing bet to Tommy that if he loses Tommy gets double his purse and Jake gets nothing and even had the contract/bet ready to sign: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZClH_f-k9M

Tommy's dad John Fury was quick to accept quite vocally but Tommy didn't seem too sure and looks like he tried to start a scuffle to change the topic haha. Tommy has seemed very confident up until that. I guess if he was so sure he would gladly take the bet but I don't blame him if he doesn't. Potentially going home with nothing would probably be too much to handle.

Tyson is over there now so maybe his presence will add a bit of extra spice.

Lol I was about to comment about the all or nothing bet between Fury and Paul.  Paul seems agitated by the comment of Fury that it is an easy fight.  And that Paul will lost since he is now facing a fresh boxer and not a washed up MMA old players.  So Paul wanted to make a bet as you stated, the winner take all.  Now that sounds very interesting.

That's why there's a lot of people who supports Jake Paul because he got a good initiative how to turn the tides into his favor, he surely knows how to use it too well so that he will not be silence by any comments made by other camps or some speculative hypes. Jake Paul indeed got an extraordinary mouth for saying something like that out of the blue and with contract prepared which was really unexpected by the opposite camp as they are surely surprised about it. For that, Jake Paul deserves my thumbs up Cheesy
1400  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Figueroa vs Magsayo WBC Interim Featherweight Title (March 4) on: February 23, 2023, 09:12:51 PM
You guys are measuring the wrong way. Yes they might be both coming from a RECENT loss but lets look at both of their track records over years. Obviously Figueroa might have been on a bad luck streak just like Magsayo, but Magsayo's history is less flawed by a 1 fight (draw). So how does one even compare the two histories? Its hard to tell but Figueroa has been showing more weakness in the recent past, so my money is on Magsayo.

Just because he recently had some bad luck in his fight against Vargas and has finally gotten 1 loss does not make this an eventuality which will happen again. 24 wins 1 loss. Cmon.

But looking at the statistics, even though Figueroa has one draw, his knockout record is more impressive than Magsayo.  Besides, Figueroa is taller and has a reach advantage, if Figueroa mimic the strategy of Vargas, I believe Magsayo will have a huge problem in this fight.

I definitely agree! All boxers have their own failure in this industry and the good thing about them is that they aren't measured by the loss they had but with what they did after the loss they experienced. Both Figueroa and Magsayo came from an unfortunate situation, both boxers didn't want that for sure but they needed it because by that, they will be molded as a much better boxer. But since we are here speculating and putting some bets, my money also goes for Magsayo even if he will be listed as favorite, it will still be Magsayo.

When it comes to betting, I will also go with Magsayo not because I think he is a better boxer but because he is a fellow countryman, and I do that to show my support


That is if Figueroa can mimic the strategy of Vargas and give a hard time to Magsayo but we all know that Figueroa is more like an open book because he's been showing a lot of weaknesses lately than the latter. He might have a good KO ratio but when it comes to ring IQ, I will still side with Magsayo. While for my betting opinion and option, Magsayo is also a fellow countryman but I will bet on him not just because of that fact alone but because I do believe on his talent and that he will beat Figueroa.
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