You leaped over the point i keep making on this topic relentlessly.
90% of Gold is used.
10% roughly (exact figure is irrelevant) is used as you said quoted above.

So what do we draw from that conclusion then ?

90% of Bitcoin usage is pyramid scheme style profiting.
10% is used as intended.. as a currency to buy things. (instead of being used as a commodity)

Summary ?
You are all fucking stupid.

That it's STILL rigged to make the dev's rich.

This should be renamed to "Scammy Retard Coin"
It doesn't matter how many accounts you shills create to defend this shit coin.. reality does not change.
Notice how there is nobody but brand new sock puppet accounts defending it.
Usually with their accounts being used to advertise the scam coin..

In other words same old, same old.
It's nothing new here.. been watching scammy investards act this way for years.

Oh and the other idiot who commented after the guy i quoted said "Their good at marketing"
Nope.
YOU are.. how the fuck do you think your getting your free coins ?  

I should report you.
Spammer idiot douche  
He created his account a few hours ago and is handing out advice all over (24 posts so far)

Check out this gem..  


Topic was = regret by not believing in BITCOIN?

Problem is not his rape of English but the fact he doesn't know what the topics are about.
Most people in crypto are THIS guy.
Sad and pathetic.

Perfect for Deep coin the Onion scam.  

b zz might drop with an excessive amount of.cvoou !!!!111ONE d otg !!!!111

That was your 12th post here noob.

So what is more likely ?
A noob shows up and buys BTC at the current prices and then waits for others to be TALKED INTO buying them.
..so he can profit.

Or is it about Gold ?

I highly doubt any of you here have taken the time to do internet research on ponzi / pyramid or MLM schemes.
If you did you would see all of this is a giant scam machine.
If you Google'd it you would hear honest testimonials from people who felt pressured to lure in others etc.

This noobs last post starts off by saying this..


Hmm interesting NOOB.
I had no idea Bitcoin Core guys were paying for a SIG campaign.
Let me guess they are paying out money from the great Bitcoin ICO way back right ?

And i quote the 14 post count NOOB again..


By all means tell us about the Bitcoin SIG campaign.. i am sure all the other 14 post noob accounts would love to get in on that.

The plastic toy in a cereal box is "physical" but it doesn't make it valuable does it ?
Nor are ProSet hockey cards from 1990 after they saturated the market printing too many.

You all wanna bubble ? You got it. LOL
Just like the hockey cards boom of the early 90's and the housing market scene that crashed the planets economy and caused world wide inflation causing my price of Butter to go from $1 to $6.

Hey can we get an 80's style Water Filter "ICO" startup coin ?
As seen on an episode of the King of Queens on TV before. (i knew people who got sucked into that back then)

No point in trying to convince willing scam participants who are making money.
They look at you then the money in their hand.. then turn around and wander off.
Humanity rolls on.. same old same old.

Exactly.

They still dump coins on the market when ever they want or as much as they want with no warning or reason.

And by the way trying to make a 5 year old confirmed scam legit with a feeble token of ideology is not going to work.
That's like Charles Manson (RIP) asking to be set free because he seen the light and was saved by Jesus.

It's yet more shenanigans from the only crypto company who has been fined by FiNCEN.
Oh and i think they were possibly the first to do an ICO of sorts too (or maybe that was Maidsafe?)
Thanks for the shitstorm of idiocy Ripple inc.

Yup.. Ripple inc. = Decentralized. ..and working with banks ? 

What did i just say ?
New to crypto ?

90% of the users involved don't know what a block-chain is.
5,000% ROI's or they aren't interested.
They think "block-chain" is an ICO coin scheme startup sales pitch to lure in more pyramid players.
You think these people want to support crypto ?
Not bloody likely. 

..chain ain't movin' unless investards see dollar signs.. and NOW !

18k ANN topics makes me think you shouldn't hold your breath.
Funny i use to joke we'd have 10k one day..
We blew past that and almost hit 20k before i even noticed.

It's all about them ICO projects startups crowd funding angel investing company investor platform smart contracts block-chain bounty airdrop SIG campaign profits.

You know anything but, well.. a currency (like IXC)

I would not call myself a good coder but thanks for the compliment.
I am self taught so that has given me some strengths but many glaring weaknesses.

And the picture is from a bands new album i seen then thought of you (knowing this topic would be bumped on page 1) LOL

But never fear.. and have "no tears" Spoetnik (with two turtle dicks is here to save the day and IXC)



Is that a turtle in my pants or am i just happy to see you ?

Best of luck Vlad buddy  

I said buy them at $3.50 and the whole entire forum lined up to laugh at me.
I looked now.. $270.

I sold mine a long looooong time ago i think at $8.
And i never did have very many though. (i never held altcoins too long in my 2013 day trading days)
At one point i had a few hundred though.
Knowing now i would have $81,000.00 worth of Litecoin though makes me want to puke.

..I had them mostly on BTCe but the last few i sold on Bittrex way back.

More random garbage bullshit posting ?
What got bored of harassing OGnasty and sending me and a couple other guys random pointless PM's ?
Why does this topic interest you ?
Hmm.. of all places this is where you turn up ?
Weird because i don't think i even seen you in the Altcoin section before.

Anyway..

Vlad you need to convince the investards it will make them money or forget it.
"Crypto" is of no interest to them all.
Their souls are sold !

his brand of trolling is sub-par and does not engage my intellect.
I can't be bothered with this character.. i am not amused.
I came back here because i seen him cross posting this as the scam topic proof for OGnasty.
I have no dog in the race and do not know either party at all.
All i can see reading this is the OP is a petulant brat.

What i think happened is there was a minor oversight as to what would happen if a refund was needed.
Which obviously this sort of thing should be anticipated and plans be made.
Problem is if the OP here had tried to work with OGnasty i bet the outcome would have been more favorable.

The summary here is..
The guy here asked for a refund.
OGnasty sent it back to Coinbase.
He asked the guy if that was ok first.. he said yes.

So..
He creates this topic titled "OGnasty has been compromised. |ID!0T|"
Now i ask anyone out there.. does that make any sense ?
Is this proof of his scam ?
Or as he called it "compromised" ?

Then he rails on relentlessly to veteran users weighing in on the issue lashing out at anyone that does not side with him or his continued verbal abuse of OGnasty (which i might add, he has kept out of it)
This topic is a summary of a weirdo that made a mistake.
It's his fault.
And instead of asking for help he chose to be a complete asshole about it.. and blame anyone but himself.
Peppered briskly with a wide variety of creative threats of physical violence.

What i vaguely find amusing is when the guy here is cornered with intelligent replies he starts PM'ing people weird seemingly random bullshit.
Like he gets bested in an argument and his response is to pull his pants down and scream and yell or something.
A pattern here is developing.. he gets his ass owned and then points the finger at others and threatens them.
A foolish habit to get into in crypto.

Let me tell this kid a story..
A guy thought it would be funny to say he killed his wife and kids on a chat room on an exchange.
The police were at his door within minutes.
True Story.. i still have the chat logs.

So feel free to shoot your mouth off all you want.
Just realize this place is not a wall to hide behind.

What does profit have to do with the topic ?
And what does it have to do with Bitcoin ?

Ok I'll play along for the sake of argument..

I would wager the OP here intended this topic to be a comparison of sorts of the two things as investments.
Then i would have to refer him to what i posted earlier.

Did he post what is more likely to give me unrealistically high profits ?
The answer would be "crypto".

If the question is "Which is better Gold or Bitcoin ?"
I would rather have Gold.. because of the reason i outlined before.
A key issue i take with Bitcoin these days is, it is no longer a currency but a pyramid scheme of sorts.
99% of the users involved with it couldn't care less if it even works at all.
They care about.. drum roll please  
P R O F I T S.

Ideology is crypto.
I am a supporter of crypto and 99% of you are not.
You are greedy bafoons bouncing around here pissing on crypto and acting like idiots.
Why would you contribute to Bitcoins crazy rise when a crash is looming ?
If you keep inflating it too much and too fast it will have to crash hard.
And which is "better" ?

Seems to me no matter how you ask the question you get the same answer.

Ultimately i hope the 1% that actually care about Bitcoin that are likely whales and true supporters..
I hope they can find a way to exploit the hoards of greedy idiot masses to further the concept of a *used* digital currency.

I have no problem with BTC.
I have a problem with no one anywhere caring that it works like dog shit.
and yet bragging about how great it is inflating the price higher and higher.

If the "commodity" being traded is based on a currency and that currency is then broken.
Then you have a broken commodity.
So what is better a new popular virtual commodity or.. gold.

VIP super secret Domination campaign ?

If it's legit then why are they hiding it ?
And why are the supporters doing the tasks admitting it's spamming then defending it ?


Gimme a fucking break.. how about not supporting a scam coin ?
EVEN if they *might ease up a *little on spamming ?
Your defense of the coin was retarded.  

You also said..


WTF ?

Yo dumb ass.. the point to mining is to secure the block chain and move transactions.
What the fuck kind of little fisher price game you think your playing for ROI's here kid / noob ?
It's not suppose to be a project.. its suppose to be a god damn fucking CURRENCY.
Use it.
Pretty simple huh ?
Oh but not with DeepScam the Onion coin is it ?
It would seem to be a little more convoluted with ultra uber secret domination tasks and SIG campaigns etc for your "FREE" airdrop coins.  

..meanwhile the dev has premined a shit fucking ton of coins and been staking them all along then handing out dust to co-opt you scammy noob profiteer investards into going along with the pyramid scheme coin "PROJECT" ..if ..you do some spamming for them via a SIG campaign etc.

Shady rigged scam coin is.. shady rigged scam coin.

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EDIT:

Oh and i do not care about the spamming.
I do not consider that "scammy".. irritating yes but it doesn't make the coin a scam.
There is other scammy issues with the coin.

The walled garden is an old exploited tactic here.
Self-moderated topics are typical.. and not a good thing.
There already is rules here that forbid Trolling and spamming etc.
So anything else *should be criticism etc.
Questions i figured out 5 years ago are deemed FUD & Trolling.
Never ever under any circumstances ask critical questions or go poking around.
Take your slice of the crypto pie profits.. be quiet and keep your head down.
..and never point out how rich the dev will get from the scheme !

You know i gotta ask Mr. "Fundamentals" just what the fuck is a scam then ?
Users here use to be rather clear on it and outlined it routinely.
Over the years no one will speak.
Anything goes now.
What would have gotten a guy flamed off the forum years ago is now "legit"
You all lowered the bar more and more and continually refuse to define what a scam is.
You will say it is not one but you won't name any that are.

Look at the noobs.. they show up here confused and ask for a summary.
It's gotten to the point where something obvious and blatant is lost in a cloud of scammy profiteer shenanigans.

Many users here (noobs / puppet accounts) have lined up to say it's not a scam if it's paying out to *some people.
But how much you make has nothing at all to do with it being a scam or not.
It's a scam by how it works and how it's handled and how it was designed and launched etc.

Anyway..  
This "coin" reminds me of Juicero.. the $400 "juicer" (original launch price was $699)  

http://fortune.com/2017/09/01/juicero-is-shutting-down/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/innovations/wp/2017/09/01/say-goodbye-to-juicero-the-maker-of-the-400-juicer/

They had no problem at all getting "investors" ..*before* they had to give refunds. LOL

Yeah i was going for comedy..
That is how i view "crypto".
I also did not expect a comeback but a 1 liner shot at me in some way.
I am used to it by now.
There is no defense or retort to what i say.. because i speak the truth.

Why is Bitcoin high in value ?
Because predators and morons are buying into it and treating it like a fucking pyramid scheme.
That's it.. period .
So WHY do they all line up to say it's better ?
They say because the price is high.
Do your comprehend how fucking god damn stupid that is ?
I'd throw all my money at housing mortgage bundles in a fucking heart beat before i bought Bitcoins.

Comedy Club ? ..you're lookin' at it.  
Thank you, thank you.. I'm here everyday and don't forget to tip the shithead shill profiteers here.

I don't see how topics like this are even debatable.. unless your a crypto cult deceitful investard.
The answer is duh.
Gold has been coveted by man all through out human history.. and always will.
And the "price" ?
You know that grandiose comeback i keep seeing posted here ?
Well.. that can be decimated with a quick fork increasing the supply now can't it ?
Or a bug found where someone exploits it etc etc.

Don't line up to imply Bitcoin is a worthy investment.
It's not.
A sensible investment would not be a scammy scene based virtual commodity used as a pyramid scheme that is inflated to obscene levels and regarded as un-legal in many places.
Don't foster and perpetuate a little facade to lure in more victims under false pretenses.
Tell them the truth.. even if it's ugly.

Comparing a fucking pyramid scheme to Gold ?
Yeah i see the comedy alright.. I'm laughing.  
Yeah but but but Spoetnik it's teh greatest !!11 'cause it's worth 100k a coin.
And ?
Your point ?

Question:
How do you fix something that is broken when no one sees it as broken ?

Lets debate.. i am a righteous Canadian Penguin  
First though let me point out your account was created on August 28, 2015
You have 345 posts.
I have 13,553.
Ok "senior" member ?

If you actually read what i just said it would have been clear.
You are in fact playing dumb.. or are.
Which justifies my a characterization of the vast majority of crypto investards.

The fact that Bitcoin was launched as a currency and failed in technical ways and with adoption does not interest you.
You noticed that it has a side use.. a commodity.
So no matter how badly fucked up THE CURRENCY WORKS ..you can still say, oh it's a digital stock to profit from.
And no the fact i said it's fucked up is not up for debate either so don't even try. (half this forum has admitted it)
The scene knows !

There is no debate i am right(ous).  



It's a great cereal though..
Yeah but the movie is a horrendous failure..
And it's tasty with milk !
Yeah but the movie is bad and got poor reviews.
But i like bananas !
Yeah but the movie did poor sales at the box office.
Yeah but i like cereal !

Where is the debate ?
If i put a fucking shoe on my head does it now become a great hat ?

Why do you all perpetually fail to grasp the notion of a "digital currency" ?
It's like you all waddle in here with a fat wallet clutching your dollars looking to get rich and all you hear is the catch phrases and key words.
- Block-chain
- Startup
- Fintech
- Crowd Funding

Maybe just go "master" the block chain and be an early adopter with 2014's Ethereum the scam coin and leave BTC up to people that actually care about it and WHY it was made.



Yup it's about $590.00 off now.
Sorry i seen it and forgot to screen-cap it when they ran it for $600.
Imagine how pissed off you'd be if you bought it then seen it for $11.
Ahhh "crypto" gotta love it huh ? Or i should say FIAT "gotta love it"  

Pro Tip:
Fiat is a currency.. like Bitcoin.

Elite Tip:
Ethereum is an app's gimmick / ICO smart contract coin cloning platform fuel "token".

Catchin' on yet ?
Notice a pattern in what i am saying here yet ?
Currency ?

Wait, what ?
Old man Spoetnik is off his med's again.. that darn Canadian is rambling crazy old coot shit again.
Yup.. mubblin' about some weird thing called a currency.
You know.. like the dollar which you use to buy "coins" with ?
And dump to get more of.. ahahhaha  

Hey.. Imagine how fucking pissed off you'd get when your FIAT dollars didn't work anymore when you needed to sell your bullshit broken crypto coins.

PS:
Why RE:Topic Title ?
Because it is.

So it was botched by design at launch and.. rigged.
Not allowed to dump your coins ? Excuse me ? What the fuck did you just say ?

Guy says "free coins" earlier ?
Well people are free to choose another SIG campaign and get *PAID* their free coins elsewhere aren't they ?
Since when is advertising free ?
Been on the internet before ? ROFL

And another noob said "community" ? ahahhahah
Reminds me of the only defense Doge Tard's use to chant all the time.

For starters it's been pointed out for 70+ pages that it is not an airdrop but an advertising campaign.
Which coincidentally is how pyramid schemes work... by definition.

Then we have the premined staked coins..

If i steal things out in the open is not stealing then ?
I'd just call it brazen theft.

And scam would be used within context.. we actually have had long held beliefs in ideology here in crypto for 8 years.
Even if you are unaware of it or are pretending.. for profits.

Not sure how a coin rigged to make the dev rich by exploiting people is not obviously scammy.

You all need to get your ass on Google and research pyramid schemes.  

I literally LOL'd reading that investard drivel.
Nice.. i scroll down and you all switched to a new avatar advertising campaign.

Why do you support Ethereum ?

..because the price of it is high, that is the summary of this topic.

WOW, just wow !

You admit 70% are pure garbage and say "win some / lose some"
Uhmm no.. that would be "Win some / lose most" 
Why do you all fail relentlessly to see the ridiculous nature of this.

And yeah i suggested it to Gliss and he seemed highly offended and his ass-kissers who joined in insulting me.
Back then.. late 2013'roughly there was nothing to differentiate the coins such as an asterisk.
And there was also far less info posted on the coins themselves just ultra basic info.
Even then exchanges barely mentioned anything about the coins listed too.. they were just 3 letter codes.
No one could tell IFC was mined at launch premined or not vs Mastercoin with an open ended ICO.

It's been struggle with this crap all along.. and the guys reaping the advantage $$$ all along are the ones crying "troll".. and "FUD" of course.

Yup.. we "need" Crypto-Kitties.  

You all simply decided that tacking some form of ledger or block-chain onto something, anything.. makes it a currency.
Then you decided that these are now companies.. and you are now investors.
And you all think your "startups" are going to get you rich.

Ever heard of a digital currency ?

Who's making them ?
Ripple inc. fined by FiNCEN ?

Butters makes a coin cloning platform original intended to mod BTC to be an APPS gimmick capitalizing on the app's trend then he tells exchanges to freeze the coin and they do.. and some how all the shit he does is "decentralized" ?
You don't know what the fucking word means  

Which part of "crypto" do you want me to rip a gaping hole into now ?
Take your pick.. the entire thing is silly retarded bullshit.
Seriously pick any aspect of any of this obscene garbage and i will rip it open wide.

Why the fuck are so many coins worth $200+ ?
You know what Apple or Microsoft stock is worth ?
As investors you should be able to compare them and see one is inflated to ridiculous levels.

I am curious who will HODL their coins when panic kicks in and dumping ensues.

Need ?
Yeah we need an open source fairly launched decentralized working & scalable DIGITAL CURRENCY.
Slapping Grandma's recipe's on the block-chain or Crypto-Kitties then ICO'ing it to support a corporation is not a currency.
It's a fucking pyramid / ponzi scheme of sorts nothing more.

It was created in the first place over ideology.
So explain to me how you do it then if you abandoned said ideology.
It's the same type of logic that says XYZ coin will replace FIAT/BTC so buy it with FIAT/BTC.

You all wonder why i think you are stupid ?