Well shit I didn't get to request my damn PSU that they never sent me or to tell them about the board that crapped out on me.

I guess I'll just send them another e-mail that they won't answer.

I would love to see the FTC turn their eyes towards AMT just don't know if they consider them a big enough fish to even attempt to fry.

I'd love to be proven wrong though.

It's ok though. I'll keep an eye on the class action ass well and see how any other legal things start to resolve themselves.

eventually he's going to need to come back to make a court date.

Christ zipkin is an idiot. Almost a stereotypical villain blabbing his whole plan to the people he is defrauding.

advancedminers.com now redirects to amtminers.com
https://twitter.com/AMTminers

There is their twitter.

He chose.... poorly.

Just makes you wish you had some stuff printed up doesn't it?

I'm sure there is a Kinkos around though.

Se now that would be worth it. We should buy booth space next to AMT at the conferences. We should use that to out scammers, my guess is people might be willing to contribute something to that cause.

If AMT isn't set up you should claim their space and use it as an AMT warning booth.

Not a problem, I was thinking it was sat-monday as well until I checked it.

Are you going to the inside bitcoins conference in Chicago? It's next June I think. I'm thinking about it as I can just visit everyone in Northwest Indiana and take the train into Chicago.

The conference doesn't start until tomorrow I believe.

I would check at the flamingo as the conference has hotel rooms there. I imagine we can call the flamingo and possibly ask if he's checked in. Don't know if they'll provide that info or not.

No it's pretty well document what opieum's goal was.

I would wear an AMT stole my money t-shit with their logo and all.

And it would have a QR code that leads to the chats.

I wish I didn't have class this upcoming week or I would be there with you.

I sure hope josh is in attendance. Or if he hired some local to run the booth scare them off and man the booth your self.

What a cunt.

I still haven't received a power supply mind you.

Hem opieum of you think what I found in the AMT documents is good then I urge you to go check out the BFL thread. You can thank me latter.

According to Josh and his sales and order list AMT only had 183 Orders for a total 219 miners.

The document is a mess though, order date and paid date are in the ddmmyyy format, but shipping dates are in the mmddyyyy (when they even follow that format anyway). It lists customers whose miners had shipped first, but rather than listing by order number it is listed by state. After separation by state the order as presented appears to be random. The ordered item has different names for the same product. The 1.2th/s miner is referred to  as  1.2th/s coin miner and as AMT1200 making it even harder to get a clear picture of what was ordered with a quick glance. At worst this was done to confuse the courts at best it just goes to show how disorganized AMT is and speaks to josh's self proclaimed inability to manage. It also speaks to his incompetence as a businessman.

The lowest order number I see is 492, the highest is 1700. I'm not sure why though as they only sold 183 orders.  Seems to me that perhaps they wanted to start with higher order numbers to make it seem like a considerable amount of orders were already placed. But that is purely speculation on my part.

Largest order on the list was $50,000 followed closely by $41,000

Order date of #492 was 10/8/2013 for a 1.2th/s at the time AMT submitted this document they had only fulfilled 45 orders order #492 was not one of them.

Mine however was ordered on 1/31/2013 and shipped before #492. It's important to note that AMT counts the broken ass rigs they sent out as complete orders as mine is dated April 7th 2014.

I see opieum's order and can only identify it by the fact that Josh put his name out in the open. Important for it to be noted that with AMT you have no privacy.

While we all await tomorrow's news on BFL and where things will be headed head for them I thought I would like to provide an update on the AMT class action.

Here are some of the more recent court documents from the case. I decided to plunk down a few bucks in the interest of figuring out where we stand and sharing the info with all of you. https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B_er85osA9tfYndiSUdLVl9iczA&usp=sharing

So the sad news is that the judge denied the class action. But the good news is the case isn't over and clenell's ( and really all of our potential) lawyers amended the claim adding three more plaintiffs. That amended claim hasn't had the class action denied or accepted, but the lawyers at Chimicles & Tikellis make some excellent arguments as to why it should be accepted, with lots of case law, in their Memorandum of Laws document.

There is a statement by Josh Zipkin it is an unsworn statment but he is still subject to penalty if he lied under it though. The final point in his statement reads:

 AMT has been inundated with customer complaints, letters from attorneys, badmouthing
and criticism on Bitcoin related social media sites and other lawsuits besides this one.
I have done my best to respond to each complaint and to find a solution for the customer and will
continue to do so.

I don't feel that statment is true. He has not done his best to respond to complaints and says as much in the chats where he said he ignores questions about the MPP.

Someone might want to contact the court on that front, with as much as he lies to us it isn't surprising he lies to the court.

Is the change of slogan an admission of guilt or do you just think he doesn't like his own words used against him? If the latter is the case he has a long road ahead.

I hate that this guy is trying to just wipe away the past like it didn't happen. Josh Zipkin is a scummy asshole.

"Josh Zipkin scam"
"AMT scam"
"amt scam"
"amtminers.com scam"
"amt fraud"
"AMT Fraud"
"amt Fraud"
"AMT fraud"
"AMT not US"
"AMT lies"
"Josh Zipkin cock-nosed asshole" ok  that one was just fun for me.
"josh Zipkin scammer"
"Josh zipkin scammer"
"Josh Zipkin scammer"
" Josh Zipkin bitcoin"
" Josh zipkin bitcoin scam"
"Josh Zipkin bitcoin scam"
"Josh Zipkin miner scam:
"Josh Zipkin mining scam"
"Josh Zipkin AMT scam"
"Josh Zipkin AMT miner scam"
"Josh zipkin http://thedealfair.com/ AMT"
" Josh Zipkin e-mail joshua@thedealfair.com"

I say we all try to contact Josh at this e-mail since he seems not to be answering any AMT related e-mail

joshua@thedealfair.com

Hmmm, lets hope this guy gets what he deserves.