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1401  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I am sending few dollars in bitcoins for answers to my question on: March 13, 2017, 01:05:34 PM
Yes I am new, but learning thanks to you all.

When Starting a new coin, how do you know what to set the initial value of the coin?

Can you set it at something like 1.00 if not listed on a exchange?

The people of this coin will only be trading it for a year before they start to sell it at market value.

Just need to know how to put an initial value for the coin, I know not all coins are in the exchanges so how do they place a value for it.

Please list your wallet ID and I will send you a small amount of bitcoins for real answers.


It's simple: Coins, just like everything else, have value because of supply and demand. Before a coin is not traded exchange, it's value it's 0, unless there is OTC buy and selling (over the counter, this means, people buy and sell here in the forum for example). Prices are set organically, forcing a price will not be seen as something good specially in crypto world where things are supposed to be decentralized.
Bitcoin value was 0 at the beginning before OTC market started, then Mtgox standardized the price.
1402  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: List of coins with instant transactions on: March 13, 2017, 12:09:46 PM
Which coins can do instant confirmed transactions? As far as I know it's Dash, Byteball can do it too due to fast confirmations by witnesses. Probably some DPOS coins can process instant transactions too, does anyone know some?

There are no coins that can do instant confirmed transactions onchain and decentralized at bitcoin volumes with bitcoin tier security, otherwise everyone holding such a coin would be rich and retired living in some island resort.
1403  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So no one cares about ETF decision, right? on: March 12, 2017, 06:10:26 PM
We haven't seen any huge downfall (as expected) after the decision of ETF. Do you think that we as bitcoin users have not paid any value to the ETF's decision?

Water off a duck's back. When the price dipped down briefly, all people saw was a massive buying opportunity.
The doomsday prophets have been proven wrong.

Interested in exploring community's opinion about it. Bears must be disappointed because they lost the chance to short for huge points.

I heard of one bear who made a 50x short and lost all his money. That was because the price went up to #1325 and wiped him out, before it started crashing.  Grin


The pump before the dump was insane. Those pesky whales are really Machiavellian. It's funny how they shaked all the shorts before the dump.

The question now is: what to do in the next ETF in march 30th?

Good video btw:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSZTK_ofQXc
1404  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we still gambling while we always lose? on: March 12, 2017, 04:24:12 PM
Some people are destined to be addicted gamblers, they are addicted to the adrenaline rush of the uncertainty, knowing that there is a chance to win even if that chance is slim is what makes them feel good, so this feel good impulse is what they always look for.
1405  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Most of the money on: March 11, 2017, 07:09:17 PM
I made some good gains in the bitcoin slot machine casino, I think bitcoin videocasino was it, I did some good rolls and got a lucky scalated win of 0.7 BTC when it was worth 200 USD... so yeah not that much money at all.
1406  Economy / Speculation / Re: after the denial of the ETF , what will be the next hype train to jump onboard? on: March 11, 2017, 05:05:05 PM
WWIII.

but but , where do i get my free WIFI , to buy some coins if the nuclear holocaust is apon us ? let alone electricity  Embarrassed



Time to hype for Gold Coins. I don't mean that digital crap, 1's&0's by the way. I mean real physical gold coins which you can hold in your hands. Liek this:


Damn this picture itself makes me drool.


In a nuclear holocaust gold coins are useless. In fact, there are 0 scenarios where gold coins can be useful if bitcoin isn't useful. If bitcoin is dead due the internet and electricity is dead, gold is also dead since no internet and no electricity means no civilization.
1407  Economy / Economics / Re: Is the SEC straight fucking with us now? on: March 11, 2017, 04:24:48 PM
Those bastards did what I expected. Delaying the damn thing for hours, waited for the markets to close so people can't buy the dip, and then boom there you go, the crash happens.

It was great to see bitcoin recover so quickly. Bitcoin comes out stronger than before thanks to the ETF rejection after all. Fuck them bureaucrats, we dont need them to go the moon.
1408  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: March 11, 2017, 03:20:14 PM
The profit that I make in gambling I always use it to speculate in the altcoin market, but sometimes it's a good idea to use it in the bitcoin market too. I yesterday made some money with the ETF incident. I sold for USDT, then I bought back in at $1000, pretty good deal. Good to see BTC recovering so fast.
1409  Economy / Economics / Is the SEC straight fucking with us now? on: March 10, 2017, 07:25:40 PM
Why are they taking SO long to take a god damn decision? Why can't these old fucks hurry up and tell us what's up? It's friday night, I don't feel like siting on my computer for the rest of the day, just give us a god damn verdict you pricks, and you better approve or else you'll look like retards eventually by not accepting this post-bitcoin reality. You can't stop it.
1410  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gavin to Satoshi, 2010 -- "SOMEBODY will try to mess up the network (...)" on: March 10, 2017, 06:16:28 PM
What does BU have to do with the TxOut script referenced in your quote?

Nothing.

Do you even know what you're talking about?
It was 100% probability that you or franky1 would make the first reply (shitpost). I hope Roger Ver-y Poor is paying you well.

You of course choose to ignore the fact that satoshi basically said fees are there for a reason, and how the idea of a secondary software is stupid.

Keep dreaming, BU is already dead, so is Jihan Wu and anyone that tries to fuck around too much.
1411  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Gavin to Satoshi, 2010 -- "SOMEBODY will try to mess up the network (...)" on: March 10, 2017, 05:40:02 PM
I don't believe a second, compatible implementation of Bitcoin will ever be a good idea.  So much of the design depends on all nodes getting exactly identical results in lockstep that a second implementation would be a menace to the network.  The MIT license is compatible with all other licenses and commercial uses, so there is no need to rewrite it from a licensing standpoint.
Good idea or not, SOMEBODY will try to mess up the network (or co-opt it for their own use) sooner or later.  They'll either hack the existing code or write their own version, and will be a menace to the network.

I admire the flexibility of the scripts-in-a-transaction scheme, but my evil little mind immediately starts to think of ways I might abuse it.
 I could encode all sorts of interesting information in the TxOut script, and if non-hacked clients validated-and-then-ignored those transactions it would be a useful covert broadcast communication channel.

That's a cool feature until it gets popular and somebody decides it would be fun to flood the payment network with millions of transactions to transfer the latest Lady Gaga video to all their friends...


A second version would be a massive development and maintenance hassle for me.  It's hard enough maintaining backward compatibility while upgrading the network without a second version locking things in.  If the second version screwed up, the user experience would reflect badly on both, although it would at least reinforce to users the importance of staying with the official version.  If someone was getting ready to fork a second version, I would have to air a lot of disclaimers about the risks of using a minority version.  This is a design where the majority version wins if there's any disagreement, and that can be pretty ugly for the minority version and I'd rather not go into it, and I don't have to as long as there's only one version.

I know, most developers don't like their software forked, but I have real technical reasons in this case.


I admire the flexibility of the scripts-in-a-transaction scheme, but my evil little mind immediately starts to think of ways I might abuse it.  I could encode all sorts of interesting information in the TxOut script, and if non-hacked clients validated-and-then-ignored those transactions it would be a useful covert broadcast communication channel.

That's a cool feature until it gets popular and somebody decides it would be fun to flood the payment network with millions of transactions to transfer the latest Lady Gaga video to all their friends...
That's one of the reasons for transaction fees.  There are other things we can do if necessary.

How long have you been working on this design Satoshi?  It seems very well thought out, not the kind of thing you just sit down and code up without doing a lot of brainstorming and discussion on it first.  Everyone has the obvious questions looking for holes in it but it is holding up well Smiley
Since 2007.  At some point I became convinced there was a way to do this without any trust required at all and couldn't resist to keep thinking about it.  Much more of the work was designing than coding.

Fortunately, so far all the issues raised have been things I previously considered and planned for.

Well well well, what do we have there? Look at this amazing piece of history.

Gavin Andressen, back when he was reasonable, pointing out how people would try to flood the network with trash.

Then satoshi, pointing out how basically BU would be a disaster.

How times change. Now a post-CIA Gavin is pushing this BU trash and supporting Jihan Wu and the rest of idiots flooding the network with garbage to try to force the BU nonsense as a solution.

Gavin and BUcoiners exposed again by Gavin and satoshi himself.

Here's further exposing of Gavin in pre-CIA times, talking about the evils that he is now promoting, and pointing out how merchants and nodes control bitcoin, not Jihan Wu's monopoly:

I very much doubt that any one entity will ever have 50% of the computational power. The botnet operators will bow to the whims of the community because it's the community that ultimately gives bitcoins value. What good is a giant load of bitcoins if you don't have anyone willing to give you something in exchange for them?
Eventually the largest merchants and money exchangers will control what is "standard" bitcoin.

Take the "50-coiners" scenario, and imagine that they manage to get 75% of the CPU power on their side.

But imagine that the biggest merchants and money exchangers are more conservative, and are in the 25% minority.  I think they will be-- I don't think they'll be the ones in the business of generating coins (they'll be busy selling products or doing the exchange thing).

What happens?

Well, the block chain splits.  Transactions using coins minted before the split will get added to both block chains, and accepted by everybody.

Transactions involving "50-coins" (generated after the split) will be accepted on the 50-coin chain, rejected on the 25-coin chain.  And vice-versa.

"50-coiners" would quickly find out that they couldn't get rid of their newly minted money because who wants bitcoins that are rejected by the biggest money exchangers or merchants?

If the big merchants and money exchangers disagreed, I bet you'd see Bitcoin clients that ONLY accepted pre-split coins and did no coin generation (since those transactions would be accepted by everybody).  If it was never resolved, I think the number of Bitcoins at the time of the split would become "the number of Bitcoins, period,"  because most people will not want to use money that is accepted some places and not others.


Replace "50-coiners" with BUcoiners and 25-coin with Core. There you have it.

Check the tweets here too:

https://medium.com/@WhalePanda/how-bitcoin-unlimited-btu-will-be-erased-169977ecb3bb#.8lzo1psxc

Get ready to dump BUcoin and double your BTC stack if the unfortunate event happens.

1412  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin Player Takes Home $255,000 In “Milestone” Casino Win on: March 10, 2017, 04:44:30 PM
An online gambler won 160 BTC in a single spin in likely the largest ever single jackpot claim in Bitcoin history.

The player, who went on to walk away with Bitcoin equivalent to $255,000 at current prices, struck lucky at Troll Hunters, hosted by Bitcoin casino Cloudbet.

The casino announced the “milestone” win in a dedicated press release on Friday.

“For us, this signifies a new era in the relentless growth of Bitcoin gambling,” Cloudbet Head of Operations Leandro Rossi commented.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-player-takes-home-255000-in-milestone-casino-win

Are you the one who won?  Smiley Or are you a member of this community?

That is amazing, it is the dream of every gambler to hit the jackpot. I wonder what was the initial investment he did to bet in order to win the jackpot, anyone knows how much he lost before winning and so on?


By reading the article it was mentioned that the user started with a 0.16btc bet  he might have a bankroll ranging from 5-10btc since he's betting that big right away on his first bet. I want to know how long did it take for him to hit the jackpot it doesn't say in the article though.

Yep the important information is to know how much money he wasted until he hit the jackpot to really calculate the net profits, and then we are going to see if it's was worth it, maybe he is some rich crazy gambler and wasted more than $250,000 gambling.
1413  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you feel shameful for being a gambler? on: March 10, 2017, 04:00:26 PM
Not really, if you are gambling with your own money, then what's the problem? there's nothing to fear, other than losing your own money, so I don't see how that is shameful. Shameful would be if you are stealing other peoples money to gamble, now that is very sad.
1414  Economy / Speculation / This massive price increase in seconds shows us something on: March 10, 2017, 02:42:31 PM
What it does it shows us, you ask?

Well, very simple: This shows how easy the price of bitcoin can be pumped if there is FOMO. So imagine that big pockets move small amounts of their portfolios into bitcoin. Even without a ETF, we would be in $10,000+ in DAYS with continued FOMO.

People forget the marketcap for bitcoin is tiny, and rises can look like massive green candles easily.
1415  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How the chinese BUcoin takeover will be destroyed on: March 10, 2017, 12:45:17 AM
Core is poison, and so are you.

How much did you pay for that account, Roger?

My name is Dustin Freeman. I've been involved with Bitcoin since early 2012 after hearing about it on HARD[OCP], and subsequently reading Satoshi's white paper.

I did not doubt that Bitcoin would be success until Core's abrupt about-face on that white paper. But Core does not control Bitcoin, as much as they would like you to believe.


Check the edit. The fact that you shilled for XT actually pisses me off. You are calling out Core devs (which are the only reason bitcoin continues being as solid as ever) while you shilled the disgrace called XT, with some fucking moron that wanted to be the "beneavolent dictator", someone that was clearly anti privacy:

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-xt-fork-can-blacklist-tor-exits-may-reveal-users-ip-addresses

and someone that dumps the coins then ragequits to crash the market latter, then goes to work in R3cev, and R3cev is a failure, then bitcoin breaks the ATH months later. LOSER lol.

Mature.

Ignoring the facts. You worshiped XT, an altcoin that wanted to be controlled by beneavolent dictator XT, and wanted to crack down on TOR users. Therefore, all of your arguments are invalid (not surprised you are dumb enough to support BUcoin)

(maybe they're affiliated with some altcoin that they believe it could profit with Bitcoin's decline?)

gmaxwell the devs 'boss' (CTO) works for blockstream which have an agenda and their own platform.
Gmaxwell loves Monero.

gmaxwells wage comes from AXA and DCG, which DCG owns coindesk and many other services. and also zcash.

DCG and blockstream is also involved with the bankers hyperledger.

also another blockstream employee, who invented FIBRE (ringfensing blockstream nodes around the bitcoin pools as the top of the network topology) (termed upstream filters). is now working with 'chaincode' to create hyperledgers 'fabric'


Oh wow, the best coders on the planet are working on effective offchain scaling (off-chain being the ONLY way to scale to mainstream levels). You guys are a waste of time. I can't wait to see BU fail to see what the name of the next delusional big blocker wet dream is named like.
1416  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How the chinese BUcoin takeover will be destroyed on: March 09, 2017, 11:52:52 PM
Core is poison, and so are you.

How much did you pay for that account, Roger?

My name is Dustin Freeman. I've been involved with Bitcoin since early 2012 after hearing about it on HARD[OCP], and subsequently reading Satoshi's white paper.

I did not doubt that Bitcoin would be success until Core's abrupt about-face on that white paper. But Core does not control Bitcoin, as much as they would like you to believe.


Check the edit. The fact that you shilled for XT actually pisses me off. You are calling out Core devs (which are the only reason bitcoin continues being as solid as ever) while you shilled the disgrace called XT, with some fucking moron that wanted to be the "beneavolent dictator", someone that was clearly anti privacy:

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-xt-fork-can-blacklist-tor-exits-may-reveal-users-ip-addresses

and someone that dumps the coins then ragequits to crash the market later, then goes to work in R3cev, and R3cev is a failure, then bitcoin breaks the ATH months later. LOSER lol.
1417  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How the chinese BUcoin takeover will be destroyed on: March 09, 2017, 11:44:38 PM
Core is poison, and so are you.

How much did you pay for that account, Roger?

Or are you sad enough to come back years after shilling XT and seeing it fail?

Good. I've got my node up and running. If you're reading this and run a node, you should as well.

to quote Mike:

Quote
[Core devs] believe that the only mechanism that Bitcoin has to keep them in check should never be used.

Myself and many other early adopters and developers went down this rabbit hole because we wanted to support a world changing technology that takes power from the elite few and puts it back in our hands. The Bitcoin Core project is no longer aligning with these ideals.



Lol, what a fucking moron. Just a loser like Mike Hernia. You wanted him to be your benevolent dictator, now you want Jihan Wu to tell you how bitcoin works.

http://coinjournal.net/gavin-andresen-mike-hearn-will-be-the-benevolent-dictator-of-bitcoinxt/

You are all a cancer to bitcoin, and bitcoin keeps getting rid of you.
1418  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / How the chinese BUcoin takeover will be destroyed on: March 09, 2017, 11:41:19 PM
https://medium.com/@WhalePanda/how-bitcoin-unlimited-btu-will-be-erased-169977ecb3bb#.edr8pegfj


Core team continues doing an amazing job with every release, no one with a functional brain will stay in BU.

BTU will get dumped, miners will either kill themselves or go back to Core in case of a split (betraying the delusional idiots that still don't get BU doesn't work).
This, or BU itself being a coding disaster will put the nail in the coffin.

Unfortunately, it will be inevitable that Bitcoin gets a massive hit and goes back several years, but Roger may become ver-y poor in the process if he isn't frauding and really dumps BTC to buy more BTE or whatever tag the altcoin will have.

Facts remain: Core devs are the better coders, BU will not get anywhere long term without them. Hopefully, people involved are reasonable and don't keep pushing towards this abyss, or they will learn the hard way (im talking about the idiots delusional enough to believe in BU lies, not the ones that are doing this in purpose to try to stop bitcoin).

PS: Bitcoin does NOT scale to mainstream levels on-chain, get this through your skulls already you dumb big blockers.
1419  Economy / Services / Is there any proper way to buy a phone numer with bitcoin? on: March 09, 2017, 06:36:24 PM
Just to confirm the SMS in some websites, or activate a new whatsapp or whatever?

Sometimes I want to register on a website, and I dont want to give them my damn phone number. Also sometimes for work reasons, I need to share my phone with some people I dont really trust, so I could write to them in whatsapp using a number I don't use.
Any ideas?
1420  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin ETF confirmed by sauces on: March 09, 2017, 04:59:55 PM
Rumor of the mill is, special chef in restaurant called SEC, told the special VIP clients that the new sauce was ready for global consumption. This sauce will be found all over the place and will be a commercial hit. He told me the sauce is sticky so you must press hard to pump it out of the bottle.
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