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14061  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Gox.com could come back if it was insured on: February 25, 2014, 07:32:27 PM
How do you know they're not insured? Surely they'll have to have some kind of insurance to even run a business like this? I also very much doubt people will trust Mark with anything Bitcoin related again.

Even if they did, and I'd doubt the judgment of anyone who would insure a fly by night operation like Gox, I seriously doubt they'll pay out on a loss of, supposedly, $409 million when that loss resulted from the willful and possibly criminal actions of the insured.

I wouldn't really call Gox a 'fly by night operation', but as insurance companies tend to do, they always try wrangle out of big payments. It's going to be very interesting to see what happens if they do go under and how much their debts and assets are valued at, especially with the fluctuations in value of Bitcoin.
14062  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2014-02-25] As Mt. Gox collapses, SecondMarket prepares to launch a Bitcoin exc on: February 25, 2014, 07:27:04 PM
SecondMarket’s Barry Silbert to Launch Regulated US Exchange this Summer

http://www.coindesk.com/secondmarket-barry-silbert-launch-regulated-us-exchange-this-summer/


@ hilariousandco

wrote that on my phone  Smiley

Iphone? It gets me every time I try to post from there and it's pain to go back and edit.

I've got a feeling something will hold this exchange back, or it'll be throttled by regulations. Hadn't NY already brought in some strict rules regarding Bitcoin?
14063  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Dear MtGox Customers..... on: February 25, 2014, 07:21:03 PM
What do you think: Is this the end of the Cryptocurrency or a new beginning???

I think it's a good thing for the future of Cryptocurrency! Something that was not sustainable collapsed... We hope that these "Individuals"  will not destroy the Bitcoins....

Why would an exchange, especially one as bad as gox, going down be the end of Cryptocurrency? Bitcoin will probably be stronger once gox goes out of the picture.
14064  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Gox.com could come back if it was insured on: February 25, 2014, 07:15:09 PM
Like that wallet backed by loyds of london.  There's still a chance MtGox still has everyone's money or 90% of it.  They probably didn't have enough time to re-write their software, so they stopped all transactions.  Coming back insured by a company like lloyds of london is probably the only way anyone would ever use them again.

Now I know nothing of what's going on and I wouldn't put money on this, but I'm trying to figure out why they bought Gox.com

How do you know they're not insured? Surely they'll have to have some kind of insurance to even run a business like this? I also very much doubt people will trust Mark with anything Bitcoin related again.
14065  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: DONT LET MARK KARPÈLES LEAVE THE COUNTRY! on: February 25, 2014, 07:13:38 PM


What further steps must be taken in order to convince authorities to flag his passport, issue an arrest warrant, etc.?

Im not calling for a witch hunt here! Mark as well as anyone enjoys the right to remain innocent until proven guilty. But in order to determine that, we have to make sure that all prerequisits are taken to proof his innocence, in other words: to further a trial to get some answers.

You kinda are calling for a witch hunt here. He hasn't even commited a crime yet, has he? Well, apart from running a shoddy business. Mark also doesn't seem like the type of guy to just go on the run either.
14066  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: A really basic question about Escrow on: February 25, 2014, 07:08:49 PM
Another community maintained list with a bit more info can be found here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=276897.0

It can't be that well maintained if John (John K.) is number 1 on there currently. The other trusted escrow list should be updated too really.
14067  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitcoin raffle. on: February 25, 2014, 07:00:35 PM
First 20 users to purchase any amount of tickets receives an extra ticket for free.

Are you aiming to make money, or are you going to pay the raffle prize out of your own funds, because if you give free tickets away this is unlikely?
There is not a pre determined amount of tickets so it cost's me nothing the pay out is the same whether I receive the amount I am giving away for this raffle. They have to purchase a ticket in order to receive a ticket so technically it is not giving them away.
I pay out 0.09 regardless if that amount of tickets is purchased or not.

You're still giving out free tickets, and I doubt you'll sell enough tickets to break even though. So you'll still pay out if you only sell a few tickets at a loss?
Yes that's why it's for only 0.09 that way I can afford to pay out even if I don't get that amount. There is no reason why I shouldn't I mean I guess there is a lack of trust with everything I guess the real question would be this what kind of retard would set something like this up with the hope of ripping people off when they could make more by being honest? I got someone from work interested and they are going to buy a ticket so if he is the only one that buys a ticket I guess he wins.

I'm not saying you're going to scam, but I assume you want to make money from this, right?
14068  Other / Meta / Re: Ponzi world taking over gambling section on: February 25, 2014, 06:53:12 PM
i think the most controversial ponzi on this site is this coin2x ponzi still a lot of people on that thread is hoping that he will comeback i dunno how much he make for this ponzi

There's always gonna be a lot of people hoping that they'll come back in every thread where someone sends in money.
14069  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2014-02-25] Mt Gox CEO Karpeles says bitcoin exchange is at "turning point" on: February 25, 2014, 06:49:20 PM
Already posted here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=486971.0
14070  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2014-02-25] TSA Searching For Bitcoin in All The Wrong Places on: February 25, 2014, 06:46:23 PM

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Barker notes that he was wearing a Bitcoin not Bombs hoodie which had a picture of a B17 bomber dropping Bitcoin. The hoodie did not have the phrase “Bitcoin” on it; only the image of the coins.

That was his mistake there.

No it wasn't a bomb misunderstanding. Read the whole article.



I did:

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It is quite evident from the encounter Barker experienced that the TSA is obviously looking out for Bitcoin. However, it also seems obvious that currently the TSA is not trained so well in what Bitcoin is. It also appears that they are targeting people who have a Bitcoin logo on their person or their belongings. Barker has shared his story in hopes to warn other Bitcoin users to be careful when traveling, especially if internationally.
14071  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2014-02-25] Major Bitcoin Exchanges Disown MtGox, ‘Tragic Violation of Trust’ on: February 25, 2014, 06:44:02 PM
https://coinreport.net/major-bitcoin-exchanges-disown-mtgox/

Finally!!! Now the next news i wanna hear is "MtGox Throws in The Towel And Goes Bankrupt"!!!

That's probably not what the people who have their coins stuck in there want though  Grin.

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Mt.Gox has been going downhill since the beginning of this month. What was explained to be only a technical issue, soon evolved into something that many were not expecting.

Only beginning of this month? It's been on its way out for as far back as I remember.
14072  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who should be BTC Foundation's Replacement for Karpeles on: February 25, 2014, 06:14:58 PM
Wait, is the Bitcoin forum?  

Well, shit, and here I thought I was posting this discussion about bitcoin leadership on a cooking forum.
Bitcoin Foundation is a private club that has its own forum. That's the right place for them to discuss their internal club affairs.

Anyone can view it though. I don't know if there's any hidden boards or not though.
14073  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is buying BTC from funds in a UK bank account illegal? on: February 25, 2014, 06:08:54 PM
Hi
Just wondering if anyone knows if buying BTC via bittylicious (with funds from a UK bank account) likely to get me account shut down? I saw someone on another thread saying that HSBC had said any trades in BTC would see their account closed? Dont know if this applies to buying through Bittylicious?

Thanks!

I think that's usually for profits from selling Bitcoins that might get you shut down. Buying should be fine. If you want to buy from Bittylicious without using a bank you can go through zip-zap and pay with cash at a lot of convenience stores or post offices etc.
14074  Other / Off-topic / Re: Movie Recommendation Station on: February 25, 2014, 05:52:36 PM
RoboCop the movie.......... Really nice!

Only the original, unfortunately... Wink

He's a spambot, but have you seen the new one yet?

Yup. It's not baaaad, but I still don't why the studio felt it was relevant to make.

This made me laugh (NSFW): https://vimeo.com/86014703

Haha. Those exploding schlongs look pretty realistic. Have you seen the full thing?

Nope, but if it's anything like this but full-length... I'm so down! I'd watch that over the remake any day!

I just downloaded the Our RoboCop Remake haha. No idea when I'll get around to watching it though.
14075  Economy / Gambling / Re: Do you think that we need new Ponzi section? on: February 25, 2014, 05:51:07 PM
I bet 95% of the mods time is spent moving threads to the correct forums haha.
14076  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: We're All Early Adopters Again! on: February 25, 2014, 05:49:19 PM
Gox is not the only exchange. If and when it bites the dust I don't think it'll be bad, just people will probably flock to other exchanges and start buying more coins there which will gradually pull the price back up.
14077  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who should be BTC Foundation's Replacement for Karpeles on: February 25, 2014, 05:26:17 PM
I don't think we need to replace him or even need the board.

Andreas Antonopoulos

Isn't he already on the board in some capacity?
14078  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 22 Messages From Creationists To People Who Believe In Evolution on: February 25, 2014, 05:19:26 PM
Quote from: George Carlin, 1932-2008
When it comes to bullshit... big-time, major league bullshit... you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims, religion.
No contest. Religion easily has the greatest bullshit story ever told.
Think about it, religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky... who watches everything you do, every minute of every day.
And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do.
And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place... full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time !
 
...but he loves you

Feels like Stockholm syndrome on steroids...

If we are accountable to God's law of 10 commandments, wouldn't it be loving of God to provide a way to be saved from the price we needed to pay for our crimes?  That seems like a pretty amazing gift.  Basically Jesus paid our life sentence for us and what do most people do, they mock Him, laugh, say it is "bullshit."

It seems far riskier to live life laughing at God then serving Him.  Let's say I am totally wrong.  Let's say that I am asking God for forgiveness for breaking one or two of the 10 commandments only to die and realize that I was "wrong."  Then what?  I won't suffer any different fate than those of you that don't believe.

But what if I am right?  What if Hell is a real place and the only way to heaven is through accepting Jesus?  The logical choice is to accept Him.  


Not if you're following the wrong religon. If Islam is true you're probably fucked. Personally, even if there was a god I'm not going to give into bullying and death threats. If god won't take me as I am and how he made me he can go to hell.

I said this in my other post.  Christianity is the one religion where we don't have to change to come to God.  We come just as we are.  It is up to God to make the difference in our lives.  It is not about us being "holy" on our own.  We can't be, even if we wanted to be.  It is admitting we are not perfect then accepting Jesus.  

Islam is about earning salvation.  It is pointless to try to earn it and any religion that encourages Jihad or killing others for a higher "ranking" in the eternal world is problematic.



Isn't it Christianity that's about earning salvation? Pretty sure they use that word a lot in the bible and prayers. Fundamentalist Islam and hate preachers might encourage killing and jihad, but this is not a view shared by most moderate Muslims. The god of the bible encourages killing people and unbelievers, yet most people ignore these parts. You've also stil failed to answer how you know the bible is the true word of god and not the Koran or any other book.

Of course the word "salvation" is used but we are not able to save ourselves.  Salvation can only come through repentance, basically saying that we need Jesus.

In the Old Testament there were wars.  There are still wars today.  But one of God's commandments is "Thou shalt not kill."  Killing is not something God wants.  Does He allow for wars?  Sometimes war is necessary.  Let's take Hitler for example.  Wasn't that war necessary?  God does not like war.  God does not wish that anyone would kill.  It is part of the "fallen" world we live in though.  

Nothing I say will convince you that the Bible is the truth.  The Bible itself gives reasons for why Jesus is the only way.  He says, "I am the way the truth and the life.  No one comes to the Father except through me."  The Bible is very clear that there will be false teachers and in a way the Bible itself becomes the measuring stick in which to gauge what is truth.  But the problem is that if someone does not believe the Bible is true then this becomes irrelevant to them.  If you are sincerely curious about this the book I recommend is "The Case For Christ" by Lee Strobel.  A journalist decided to end the debate once and for all and show how Jesus was a fraud by doing investigative journalism, like he had done for other stories.  In the process He realized that there was too much evidence to deny that Jesus really was who He said He was.  

The bible says. On what grounds is the bible an authority? Why do you not say the Koran says or this bit of paper says. If the bible is very clear about false teachers, how do you know it or Jesus are not one?  How do you know it's not the work of Satan? I want to know what reasoning or evidence you have for believing the bible. You can't just say "it says". Why do you believe the words in it are those of Jesus and God? Why do you not believe in all the other regions that essentially say the same thing?



Why do I believe?  Because God has made Himself very real to me.  How do I know my husband?  How do I know my daughter?  How do I know my best friends?  It is very much the same with my relationship with God. One thing God has spoken to my heart on many occasions is the verse "My sheep know my voice."   Also, there are "gifts" God gives and one is called "discernment" which is the ability to discern spirits and right from wrong.  I have been in a room and could literally feel that someone possessed by a demon was there somewhere only to have the person then lock eyes with me in a creepy way a few minutes later, but I felt the dark spirit before I even saw the person.  I am not afraid of the demon because I know "Greater is He that lives in me then He that is in the world."  To know Jesus really opens the door to see the world in a more spiritual way.  And like I keep saying, all religions are NOT the same.  Christianity is about being humble and realizing we cannot earn anything. God is the one that changes us and opens our "eyes" if we let Him to see. We don't do anything on our own strength.  Show me another religion that tells us that?  

You're either nuts or trolling. "How do I know my husband? How do I know my daughter? How do I know my best friends?" But they physically exist. You can't hear or see god. He appears to no one, does nothing and says nothing, so how can anyone be held accountable for being sceptical? And you shouldn't be scared of demons or ghosts because they don't exist, but you should be scared of people. Murderers and rapists are the nutters you need to be worried about. Demons wont rape or murder any one.

You might think that god has made himself real to you, but a lot of Muslims probably say that about Allah and Mohammed (peace be upon him). Has god told you the bible is legit? Why can't you believe (or not believe) in god and just live a good honest life without the bible? Surely that is good enough for god?

You say demons won't rape or murder? Where do you think a person's desire to rape and murder comes from?  

Even if I lived what appeared to be a perfect life it is not enough to earn a way to heaven in doing so.  All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God is what the Bible says.   Our "righteousness is as filthy rags" is another verse.  It is like a white sheep that looks really white on a lawn of green grass but on a fresh layer of snow this same sheep would look dirty.  That is the way we are before God.   And where is the line?  Where is the "I am good enough to go to heaven" line at?  Humans seem to arbitrarily decide they are good enough just by comparing themselves to other people.  It is almost like they plan on dying and going to heaven and then telling God, "I was better than the guy that murdered someone" or "I never raped anyone" or so on. Then they expect God to say, "Ah yes.  I grade on a curve and  you are in the middle so you are OK."  But that is not in the Bible anywhere.  In fact God tried to make it very clear that we can't measure up to the standard and that is why we need a sacrifice for our sinful nature. Jesus came to be that for us, out of His love for us.  

And as for hearing God,  have you tried?  It requires coming to Him in sincerity and taking time to pray and asking Him to reveal Himself to you.  That is a prayer He always answers when it is prayed with a humble and contrite heart.

Rape and murder come from people being fucked up, not demons. I also don't understand why god made people that way then complains when they do stuff he designed them to do.

You keep saying "the Bible says", but never answer me what the bible has to do with god. You're just completely brainwashed by it being "The Truth", but have no reason, logic or explanation why it is so.

And I prayed a lot as a kid. Never heard anything back or felt anything other than silence. I'm kinda glad though, as If I did I probably would've been petrified, or batshit crazy.
14079  Other / Politics & Society / Re: goodbye iOS. hello Android. :) on: February 25, 2014, 05:10:02 PM
iOS only! I think it's really easy to use and I like their design! However I do not doubt that Android is quite good but iOS will always be better.  Wink
This kind of statement is basically too wrong to even be wrong.

IOS is already way, way worse as you can see from the very existence of this thread. 

IOS refuses to support BTC apps.  Hence IOS can not be better, let alone "always be better".  If they decided tomorrow to allow BTC apps they could still never achieve status of "sometimes being better" because they could disallow such apps at any time.  They suffer from a top down control model malfunction.

Probably just an Apple fanboy with little to no experience of other devices.

More security flaws from Apple today: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-26335701
14080  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Huffington Post on: February 25, 2014, 05:07:11 PM
Haha top post from a so-called Political Pundit: "Wow, a currency for criminals has thieves among its patrons.  Who could have seen this coming?"

I don't know what people expect from the comments of a newspaper.
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