"Oopsy! Anybody have a blue tarp the size of The Netherlands?"
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Well, let me show you some proof of how bitconnect's ponzi works. I decided to """invest""" 100$ (1BCC at the time) into their lending platform in order to see what the hell they are doing with it. Its clear to see on the blockchain. I made some screenshots (and uploaded them externally, dont want to spam the forum with hugeass pictures) Anyway heres Part1: http://sk.uploads.im/ksjTE.pngThe picture contains 3 screenshots. The 1st one is my bitconnect online wallet, where to I transferred 1BCC on Sep 24th 20:23 and I "lent" it right after that. (disregard the transactions on the adress after that event, that is just me selling/get rid of my remaining coins. inb4 "fuck you, you say its a scam but still you invested in it" - i decided to buy a lot of cheap coins back in march, bcc was just one of them, without really looking more into it.) They didnt move it until the next day, Sep 25th 7:00 to bundle it up with a bunch of other coins (which other users lent during the same time period) in order to make a sum of 2000 BCC, which they then moved to a new adress. (2nd and 3rd screenshot) If they really had a BITCOIN trading bot to profit from the BITCOIN volatility, they would need BITCOINS and not BITCONNECT COINS to profit from it, so I figured they would use the 2000BCC to buy back BTC in order to invest in any bot. But the blockchain shows that THEY WERE DOING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WITH IT. At least not for 8 days. (from Sep 25th to Oct 3rd, then they started moving it, and by moving it i mean paying out """interest""" of the next users that lend.) Part2: Well alright, I waited a day to see if I get any interest paid out and it in fact I did. I saw about 1,5$ in my """dollar wallet""". Once I hit the button, I had 0.014BCC in my bitconnect online wallet, available to be withdrawn. I figured, if they dont do shit with the BCC that I lent them, where the fuck do those new BCC come from? So I checked the blockchain. http://sl.uploads.im/hzslU.pngI transferred the BCC to my local wallet on the 3rd screenshot, and decided to trace those coins (which took about half an hour of clicking) And guess what,I traced them back to YET ANOTHER ADDRESS WHICH HAD 2000 BCC ON IT, once again created by combining BCC that users lent (on Sep 25th 00:02, 7 hours before I lent my BCC - screenshot 1&2) In other words: my """interest""" came from the coins of other users, and thats the PONZI. GOT IT?
The strategy is this: As soon as people lend their BCC, they are at least frozen for 120 days (depending on the sum) and unable to be sold by the user, which in turn reduces the available supply of BCC and pumps up the price. Combine that with the price increase of BTC, and the BCC coin's price got to where it is now. Putting it short: this isnt FUD, these are the facts. FACT1: Your interest is paid with the BCC of other lenders. (I figure they just have a random number generator, which calculates the daily interest rate. sometimes its higher, sometimes lower.) FACT2: The bitconnect owners/developers own 5,5M of the 8M coins that exist. It was heavily premined and they can control the market with it. Their coins are worth about 1B USD at the current price. (I dare you to trace the richest adresses back to the 1st block that was ever mined) https://chainz.cryptoid.info/bcc/#!rich Check the rich list and you will see that there are a lot of adresses with exactly 2000 BCC on it. FACT3: They didnt give a fuck about their own roadmap since august. webstaking was never enabled. https://bitconnectcoin.co/roadmapbottom line, if anyone tells you to invest in the awesome bitconnect trading bot/lending platform, tell them to invest in a shotgun instead and shoot their brains out cause theyre not using it anyway. I applaud your effort to get to the bottom of it, and while I'm very skeptical myself I noticed one error in one of your assumptions which might be helpful if you continue to investigate. You mention the following: "If they really had a BITCOIN trading bot to profit from the BITCOIN volatility, they would need BITCOINS and not BITCONNECT COINS to profit from it, so I figured they would use the 2000BCC to buy back BTC in order to invest in any bot" however they already have the bitcoin for those BCC you lent them. When you purchased the BCC you likely bought it from them for BTC (or from someone else, who initially bought it from them for BTC of course). My point being when someone buys BCC from them for BTC then lends the BCC back to them, they now have both the BCC and BTC in their possession. There are several concerning signs with their system, but I don't think the BCC you deposit not moving straight away is actually one of them. It's much more interesting to know what they are doing with their bitcoin reserves. Another user on here did track at least one of their bitcoin addresses which had about 8000 BTC in it that wasn't moving so you may wish to follow up on that instead. I'm that user. Your welcome. As for the trading bot, it manipulates the BCC rate on BitConnect's own exchange. But shhhhhhhhhh! Don't let BitConnect's ladyboys know this.
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Anyways, heres a link if anyone is curious. From what I am reading Fraser is SOOOOO Fucked! Here are a few nice quotes: "The test of whether an individual is a controlling person for the purposes of § 20(a) is not a categorical one that turns solely on the individual’s status as an officer or director. Rather, the inquiry is a functional one, as SEC regulations indicate.” "Thus, control is adequately pled when there are factual allegations that “support a reasonable inference that defendants had the potential power to influence and direct the activities of the primary violator.” Here is the biggest quote so far: The amended complaint plausibly pleads that Fraser controlled the Companies and Garza. It does so first by alleging that Fraser owned half of the equity in each of the Companies a well recognized indicator of control.In other words Fraser was absolutely in control. https://file.io/moutPFOhh, yeah, that is some serious stuff that will get him on the hook. He is going to get his..,in time. holy shit what a nice twist. shouldn't have run the charity 9/11 scam Less than an hour ago I got up to speed on the 9/11 scam. Does anybody know if Garza and Fraser are directly related, e.g., cousins? I can't get over the notion that Fraser pulled Garza in on his small nefarious entities oppose to being the other way around.
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I like all the FUD around Bitconnect. In the meantime those who are investing money in Bitconnect are laughing to all the fudders. I never understood people who don't invest why they have to FUD. I mean what do they gain from it? Nothing more than being left behind while the train is moving. Anyway, as long as it works I don't see any issues. Quite a ice ride. See you in the top 3 on coinmarketcap. In the meantime, let the fudders behind crying even harder.
Dude, we're trying to HELP you!!! I have no gain for FUDing BCC. I wish I could, but there is no way for me to short BCC because it isn't listed on any respected exchanges. "as long as it works I don't see any issues" - When everything ends, remind yourself that you once said this!! In the mean time, don't tell your family and friends you have have invested cos it will save some embarrassment in the future. I Have been reading a lot of different reviews about bitconnect but i still dont really see where is the scam, so whoever made this platform is a FAKE name (Ken something) does that make a difference to anyone ? satoshi is also a FAKE name most likely. what i mean is that this coin got to be in the top 10 on coinmarketcap with about 1.2 bil and it seams like it just growing as time goes by. bitconnect could have just got up and bail out when they had issues in Aug. but they DIDNT. WHY if its a scam and back then it was a nice 700-800 mil. i was reading they might partner with VISA, that just shows more legitimacy. (correct me if im wrong here) i would love to see this platform still working 5 years from now. My bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BitConnect IS NOT a scam because its creator used a fake name on an official document when registering its charter in the UK, the number one prerequisite for VISA when considering to partner with an entity consisting of only ~8,000 active users. The number two prerequisite for VISA when considering to partner with an entity consisting of only ~8,000 active users is to make sure the entity is paying its fair share of taxes and is timely filing its corporate paperwork, of which I assume the following attests to, with apologies for not being versed in British english, hence the assumption. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10278342Here's all of BitConnect's corporate filing history that'll be viewed by VISA prior to approving its partner request: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10278342/filing-historyBonus link: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10278342/filing-history/MzE1Mjc5NjkwNmFkaXF6a2N4/document?format=pdf&download=0YES, we don't know who Satoshi Nakamoto is, but Bitcoin is a DECENTRALISED crypto where there is no control by one organisation or individual. The is no possible way for Satoshi Nakamoto to run away with a majority of the Bitcoin in existence (unlike the owners of BCC). The Biggest bitcoin wallet owns LESS than 1% of all bitcoins, and that will be one of the exchanges. No one can single handedly manipulate Bitcoin. Bitconnect is CENTRALISED like a bank, but worse!!! At least you can walk into your bank and ask for your money. The central bank of Bitconnect is currently taking large deposits from suckers and one day you will wake up to find they are closed for business and have taken the money with them out the back door. 10 wallets hold 70% of ALL Bitconnect coins. Those 10 wallets which are likely to be owned by the developers of BCC control the price of BCC. If they want it to go up they just swap a few coins here and there and manipulate the exchange. You're right that bitconnect isnt a scam becuase the owner is unknown. Its a scam because the entire organisation is manipulative and fraudulent. The quicker you realise this, the less money you will lose and the less embarrassment you will have to go through. You are also hiding under a false name here and most probably using an alt account. Are you also a scammer? How do I know that you are not lying and just creating FUD to buy at a cheaper price?You caught the tatter! Now that the cat's outta the bag, I'm buyin' more BCC when I get the price back now to U$180.
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I like all the FUD around Bitconnect. In the meantime those who are investing money in Bitconnect are laughing to all the fudders. I never understood people who don't invest why they have to FUD. I mean what do they gain from it? Nothing more than being left behind while the train is moving. Anyway, as long as it works I don't see any issues. Quite a ice ride. See you in the top 3 on coinmarketcap. In the meantime, let the fudders behind crying even harder.
Dude, we're trying to HELP you!!! I have no gain for FUDing BCC. I wish I could, but there is no way for me to short BCC because it isn't listed on any respected exchanges. "as long as it works I don't see any issues" - When everything ends, remind yourself that you once said this!! In the mean time, don't tell your family and friends you have have invested cos it will save some embarrassment in the future. I Have been reading a lot of different reviews about bitconnect but i still dont really see where is the scam, so whoever made this platform is a FAKE name (Ken something) does that make a difference to anyone ? satoshi is also a FAKE name most likely. what i mean is that this coin got to be in the top 10 on coinmarketcap with about 1.2 bil and it seams like it just growing as time goes by. bitconnect could have just got up and bail out when they had issues in Aug. but they DIDNT. WHY if its a scam and back then it was a nice 700-800 mil. i was reading they might partner with VISA, that just shows more legitimacy. (correct me if im wrong here) i would love to see this platform still working 5 years from now. My bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BitConnect IS NOT a scam because its creator used a fake name on an official document when registering its charter in the UK, the number one prerequisite for VISA when considering to partner with an entity consisting of only ~8,000 active users. The number two prerequisite for VISA when considering to partner with an entity consisting of only ~8,000 active users is to make sure the entity is paying its fair share of taxes and is timely filing its corporate paperwork, of which I assume the following attests to, with apologies for not being versed in British english, hence the assumption. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10278342Here's all of BitConnect's corporate filing history that'll be viewed by VISA prior to approving its partner request: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10278342/filing-historyBonus link: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10278342/filing-history/MzE1Mjc5NjkwNmFkaXF6a2N4/document?format=pdf&download=0
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As far as I know, Satoshi is the developer of bitcoin and its component part-satoshi. I can assume that he hides his identity for fear of his life and health, as well as to prevent inconveniences caused by attention to popular and rich personalities
Man, I am starting to think that someone, perhaps Satoshi/Mike Hearn himself has created spam bots that just spew nonsense on any topic that is created or bumped to the top of the queue that has anything to do with or mentions Satoshi.
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SAmsung, TOSHIba, NAKAmichi, and MOTOrola
There ya go.
It's just your speculation, there is no evidence. But you thought it well. And what is NAKAmichi? - I hear it for the first time Not his speculation, but others: https://www.wired.com/2011/11/mf_bitcoin/Someone else wondered whether the name might be a sly portmanteau of four tech companies: SAmsung, TOSHIba, NAKAmichi, and MOTOrola. It seemed doubtful that Nakamoto was even Japanese. His English had the flawless, idiomatic ring of a native speaker.
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Speakin' of Minstrel ... "Minstrel In The Gallery"
The minstrel in the gallery looked down upon the smiling faces. He met the gazes --- observed the spaces between the old men's cackle. He brewed a song of love and hatred --- oblique suggestions --- and he waited. He polarized the pumpkin-eaters --- static-humming panel-beaters --- freshly day-glow'd factory cheaters (salaried and collar-scrubbing). He titillated men-of-action --- belly warming, hands still rubbing on the parts they never mention. He pacified the nappy-suffering, infant-bleating one-line jokers --- T.V. documentary makers (overfed and undertakers). Sunday paper backgammon players --- family-scarred and women-haters. Then he called the band down to the stage and he looked at all the friends he'd made.
The minstrel in the gallery looked down on the rabbit-run. And threw away his looking-glass - saw his face in everyone.
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David Kleiman, who unfortunately passed away in 2013, could be our best candidate for Satoshi Nakamoto's true identity. Here's an article on Kleiman's background and story. None of those claiming to be Satoshi have ever moved the genesis blocks Satoshi is known to own the private keys to. With Satoshi holding 1 million plus btc, which are now worth more than $4 billion, the best explanation is Satoshi must have passed away. No. Even Mike clues everyone in as to what happened to all the early coins that are still unspent. I no longer have the keys that were referenced in my initial emails with Satoshi. That's why the remaining coins are unspent. At the time bitcoins had no value at all and nobody else was using the system, so I didn't bother backing up the wallet and eventually lost it. Back then there were no forums, no markets, no exchanges, no usage at all as far as I could see and Satoshi did not seem to have any interesting in marketing either.
https[Suspicious link removed]TwrC8/hqdefault.jpg[/img] "You mistaken a 2009 Bitcoin forum for a Bitcoin forum in 2009."[/center] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2700<link> On 17 Mar 2010, the now-defunct BitcoinMarket.com exchange is the first one that starts operating.Does anybody know what Mike Hearn has been smoking? Aside: Re the last link above, I smell an update for the below in the making ... Oh, and speaking of "no market", let's revisit Mike's first post, eh? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2270.msg30122#msg30122You do realize that Bitcoin started 11 months before what ever it is you are trying to reference here and everything I am talking about happened during that first year. For example, the bulk of Satoshi's coins are from 2009, and Mike is confirmed to have been involved in October of 2009 for sure and through his emails as early as April 2009. Also there was no value in bitcoin during this time as you submitted a link to that proof yourself. I think you are confusing December 2009 with December 2008 or something. Even up until Satoshi went silent here, bitcoin had very little value and didn't find dollar parity until after he walked away from the forum. I am not sure what you think you are proving here but you are wrong in whatever you are attempting. Mike is Satoshi. Mike doesn't have the keys to the coins he mined in 2009 which means Satoshi does not have the keys to the coins mined in 2009 because they had no value. For fun, let's assume Satoshi did mine 1 million coins throughout 2009 and 2010. Up until August of 2010 bitcoin had zero value. That is $0. So for 1 year and 8 months (or 20 months) Satoshi was holding onto a wallet or private keys for 20,000 blocks mined (1,000,000 divide by 50) worth of coins that had zero value. Why? Why would he preserve something so worthless at the time when he said multiple times it was an experiment and beta? I stand corrected. Thanks, bud.
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SATAN!
Wrong answer! There is a seed within but it is from a Light Source. See that? Mark my word, one day there'll be a massacre in front of the Great Pyramid of Vegas. Oh, wait ... <ref. ...> meet chu at circus circus? lol I'm a couple blocks from Stupak's dick if you're in town. I had dinner with Rassah and his husband last night. nice i hear the mob is buying up the float of all the bitcoins in the world weee "Wait, the mob is buying up all the floating dicks? Sumbitch!" Weeeeeeeeeee! BTW, you like my blue Moby Dick?
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SATAN!
Wrong answer! There is a seed within but it is from a Light Source. See that? Mark my word, one day there'll be a massacre in front of the Great Pyramid of Vegas. Oh, wait ... <ref. ...> meet chu at circus circus? lol I'm a couple blocks from Stupak's dick if you're in town. I had dinner with Rassah and his husband last night.
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Nice finds.
Man, if Google could lay claim to bitcoin and the blockchain, that would be very interesting to watch. We'd find out how decentralized bitcoin could really be!
There is evidence that about 65% of all mining capacities are concentrated in large carpages. This data is not difficult to find online. What does carpage mean?"Seriously, you never heard of CarPages?" Nope. Am I missing out on something? Humor, bud. See the car is saying ... And in case you're not versed, cars can't talk. TBC, I, too, don't have a clue as to what carpages is/are.
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David Kleiman, who unfortunately passed away in 2013, could be our best candidate for Satoshi Nakamoto's true identity. Here's an article on Kleiman's background and story. None of those claiming to be Satoshi have ever moved the genesis blocks Satoshi is known to own the private keys to. With Satoshi holding 1 million plus btc, which are now worth more than $4 billion, the best explanation is Satoshi must have passed away. No. Even Mike clues everyone in as to what happened to all the early coins that are still unspent. I no longer have the keys that were referenced in my initial emails with Satoshi. That's why the remaining coins are unspent. At the time bitcoins had no value at all and nobody else was using the system, so I didn't bother backing up the wallet and eventually lost it. Back then there were no forums, no markets, no exchanges, no usage at all as far as I could see and Satoshi did not seem to have any interesting in marketing either.
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/6t2ci2/never_before_seen_mike_hearn_satoshi_nakamoto/dliizv6/ https://web.archive.org/web/20091215005450/http://www.bitcoin.org:80/smf/"You mistaken a 2009 Bitcoin forum for a Bitcoin forum in 2009." https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2700<link> On 17 Mar 2010, the now-defunct BitcoinMarket.com exchange is the first one that starts operating.Does anybody know what Mike Hearn has been smoking? Aside: Re the last link above, I smell an update for the below in the making ... Oh, and speaking of "no market", let's revisit Mike's first post, eh? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2270.msg30122#msg30122
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Nice finds.
Man, if Google could lay claim to bitcoin and the blockchain, that would be very interesting to watch. We'd find out how decentralized bitcoin could really be!
There is evidence that about 65% of all mining capacities are concentrated in large carpages. This data is not difficult to find online. What does carpage mean?"Seriously, you never heard of CarPages?"
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Nice find, bud. “By the old Moulmein Pagoda, lookin’ lazy at the sea, There’s a Burma girl a-settin’, and I know she thinks o’ me; For the wind is in the palm-trees, and the temple-bells they say: “Come you back, you British soldier; come you back to Mandalay!” Come you back to Mandalay, Where the old Flotilla lay: Can’t you ‘ear their paddles chunkin’ from Rangoon to MANDALAY? On the road to Mandalay, Where the flyin’-fishes play, An’ the dawn comes up like thunder outer China ‘crost the BAY!” There are palm trees in front of Mandalay Bay and the wind, the wind was blowin' ... <link vvv> Oh, the wind, the wind is blowing Through the graves the wind is blowing Freedom soon will come Then we'll come from the shadows
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SATAN!
Wrong answer! There is a seed within but it is from a Light Source. See that? Mark my word, one day there'll be a massacre in front of the Great Pyramid of Vegas. Oh, wait ... <ref. ...>
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So Gleb , i read all your posts in this thread and i was convinced that OP tried to steal identities but i wonder why your DT friends still have not painted that scammer. is he not a scammer, if yes then you must remove your negative posts from this thread. Okay, you win! I have removed all my negative posts from this thread. Happy now?
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hahaha... It feels like our current president's last 8 months in office here in the USA... All fail and no jail yet... Clearly Homero was aiming too low with this piddly $10m scam... with so much bluster he should've run for president. Then fuck the SEC, the FBI, and the whole alphabet Garza 2020! Unless he gets more than 2 years in the clink, in which case - Garza 2024! Yep... Trump is gonna squeeze every dollar he can squeeze out of the US Presidency. Bigly. #estate_tax-repeal Eliminating or reducing taxes? And that's a bad thing? Trump is the best thing to happen to the US of A since the Boston Tea Party. I hope he continues to piss off the establishment and Libtards that dominate politics, media, and entertainment. They can all go fuck themselves. Bannon has a multi-billionaire funder in his corner now who wants the entire political elite class destroyed. He is going to single handily ensure Trump is reelected and that his agenda is carried forth, just like the voters wanted when they elected him to drain that miserable and corrupt swamp. This Bannon?: https://www.wired.com/2016/09/trumps-campaign-ceos-little-known-world-warcraft-career/This multi-billionaire funder in his corner?: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-04-25/renaissance-mints-another-billionaire-with-two-more-on-the-cusp
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probably really liars bitconnect coin - promised bittrex, not nova
Perhaps hinting as to what's to come:
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