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1461  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Robot Trading, Menjanjikan Profit, Benarkah? on: May 18, 2023, 11:10:02 AM
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robot trading akan berguna bila kita memahaminya, sehingga mengetahui waktu yang tepat untuk menggunakannya, tetapi yang kebanyakan terjadi orang bergantung pada robot trading, yang seharusnya mereka pintar trading terlebih dahulu baru menggunakan robot
Seharusnya memang seperti itu mas, pemula ataupun yang mengimpikan profit besar harusnya fokus pada belajar trading dan menggunakan indikator, jadi ketika menggunakan bot, mereka paham batas buy tertinggi berapa, potensi cutloss dan take profitnya berapa persen. Setelah itu, baru mengaturnya pada bot. Sayangnya, yang dipikirkan kebanyakan memang tidak perlu report, percayakan pada pemegang bot, taruh uang disana dan menikmati penghasilan, hingga akhirnya terjebak pada sistem bodong.
1462  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 17, 2023, 04:18:26 PM
Milan must be able to win the 3 remaining matches of the championship to be able to participate in the cups next year

This does not guarantee the position. Their only chance at the moment is to qualify for the Europa League (UEL) or stay to finish for the 5th. If AC Milan is able to win all of the remaining matches, Inter & Lazio must be lose at least 2 times, so AC Milan can cut their points to shuffle Lazio position . This doesn't seem possible. Inter & Lazio is on better side. Inter can definitely win 2 matches and lose 1, because their schedule just versus clubs that currently on bottom of standing. With these results, I'm sure Milan will not qualify for UCL next season.
1463  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: May 17, 2023, 04:07:42 PM
For the records, AC Milan is more successful club in the UEFA Champions League competition than their city rivals Inter Milan. As matter of fact, AC Milan is the second most successful club in the competion so it's absolutely wrong to say Inter demonstrated seniority. But from what we have seen so far in the semi finals, Inter Milan was a much better team.
Inter Milan's current problem now is how to face whoever that'll qualify tonight to play against them between Manchester City and Real Madrid because from every visible evidence, the two teams are more stronger than Inter

the good record obtained by AC Milan in the past just a good memories for us. Actually, this is a great opportunity for AC Milan to return to the UCL Finals after a long absence. Unfortunately, the opportunity was not accompanied by a good performance, Inter continued to prove their dominance against AC Milan. Even though AC Milan has a good history in the UCL, this season AC Milan's appearance is so difficult to be called as a strong team, because they often make blunders. Inter is currently better than AC Milan even Inter also showing us their inconsistency too, and from the results of the quarter-finals, I have doubted AC Milan's chances of qualifying for the final against Inter, and what I'm worry about now is come true.
1464  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [Tips] Bagaimana Saya Aman Pakai Wallet Bitcoin Selama 5 Tahun Ini on: May 17, 2023, 01:57:32 PM
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 Dan, ini juga berlaku buat wallet bitcoin, kalau ternyata banyak yang komplain pasti bakal ditinggalkan kayak freewallet.

Dan mungkin yg lg tren sekarang seperti ledger yang mengirimkan atau mengekstrak seed dan private key ke pihak ketiga juga jadi perhatian khusus untuk hati2. Mungkin ada sesuatu dibalik itu
Untuk kasus bank mungkin kita masih dapat bantuan hukum dari pemerintah atau lembaga/institusi lainnya (walau tidak menjamin uang kembali jika hilang), sedangkan kalau pada wallet bitcoin apalagi yang closed source, ini bakal merugikan kita sepenuhnya.

Akhirnya kekhawatiran saya terhadap penggunaan hardware wallet terpecahkan juga. Karena bagi saya sejak awal tidak berminat pada hardware wallet seperti ledger dan lainnya, karena saya khawatir dengan seednya, kita tidak pernah tahu produksinya seperti apa. Tidak mungkin sepenuhnya tidak diketahui oleh pengguna maupun mesin pencetak. Jika sudah membocorkan ke pihak ke 3 ataupun mereka sendiri menawarkan layanan recover, artinya memang mereka memiliki key cadangan.
1465  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Dust Attack Pada Jaringan Bitcoin & Altcoin on: May 17, 2023, 01:47:43 PM
Mungkin maksudnya 546 satoshi sebagaimana tercantum di screenshot (dan seperti yang saya sebutkan sebelumnya diatas, nominal tersebut adalah jumlah minimal untuk output transaksi di node Bitcoin Core).
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Saya sempat bingung mengapa butuh Inscriptions fee ini, setelah saya mencari informasinya ini diperlukan agar NFT, Text ataupun Token BRC-20 dapat diangkut dan tersimpan pada blockchain Bitcoin. Jadi ini sifatnya adalah perwakilan, dan benar apa yang mas sebutkan ini adalah nominal minimal untuk transaksi bitcoin, karena NFT, text dan Token bukan BTC, dev menjadikan pengiriman minimal di setiap ativitas yang terjadi di Ordinals ataupun unisat atau yang semacamnya.
1466  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [Untuk Newbie] Alasan Untuk Tidak Trading Uang Pinjam on: May 17, 2023, 01:33:24 PM
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lain halnya kalau saya sudah menjadi trader pro, tentunya berani memegang dana investor dengan kontrak yang dapat dikatakan rumit untuk dilakukan oleh orang seperti saya Grin
Memegang uang orang lain untuk trading tak ubahnya menggunakan uang pinjaman mas, hanya beda istilah "investor nitipin uang untuk modal trading". Endingnya pun akan sama, seandainya kita salah prediksi baik telah melakukan analisa secara teknikal maupun fundamental, dan si investor tidak terima karena uangnya merosot banyak, yang ada kita akan dianggap telah melakukan investasi bodong.  Cheesy

1467  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Menghindari Kesalahan Ketika Mengikuti Hype Yang Sedang Terjadi on: May 17, 2023, 01:29:52 PM
Ada 1 tambahan dari saya, bergabunglah dengan grup lokal yang memang suka mencari token-token meme atau yang sedang hype. Tapi pastikan grup yang Anda pilih adalah orang-orang yang memang membeli token tersebut bukan hanya sebatas shilling. Saya pernah ikut grup ini, tapi tidak terurus dan sudah ditinggalkan oleh yang aktif berbagi tersebut. Grup yang saya ikuti ini dulu waktu mereka aktif, ada yang mengecek smart contract, ada yang mengecek developer ada yang melihat pembahasan proyek ini di sosial media. Jadi memang tidak asal mereka atau dalam artian beberapa poin dari OP dilakukan oleh member grup tersebut.

Mungkin jika ada member forum ini yang suka dengan token meme dan hype yang baru launching dan memiliki grup, bisa atuh member forum ini diajak bergabung di grupnya. Tapi, ingat ini bukan sembarang grup isinya memang orang-orang yang suka duka bersama.
1468  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: May 16, 2023, 02:53:16 PM
There is still rumors that Real Madrid is interested in Kylian Mbappe, but there is no official or credible source of information on the subject. Even after clinching the deal with Jude Bellingham, they are still interested in him. Mbappe, in my opinion, may still be interested in joining the club even if it does not work out this season but very soon. After PSG, I believe Real Madrid will be his next destination.  His new contract with PSG compels him to stay for the time being in order to win a Champions League trophy for the club before leaving.
I don't think PSG will let Mbappe go easy at the moment. Messi has accepted the termination of the contract, Neymar also left. If Mbappe also leaves PSG, the star charm of PSG will also disappear  Cheesy. If it really happens, Mbappe out, I'm sure this will make it difficult for PSG who are trying to get the UCL title. After all, from several other media it was reported if Madrid already changes their interest in Mbappe and chose to look for alternatives, one of the players that getting attention from Madrid is Osimhen.
1469  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: May 16, 2023, 02:43:23 PM
This is one tough nut to crack, huh? I get where you're coming from, thinking gamblers should keep friends around if they're open to good advice. But I beg to differ. Once the gambling beast is unleashed, it's safer for pals to steer clear. You see, addiction blurs the lines of reason. Gamblers shrugging off well-meaning advice? That's denial, and they're caught in a self-destructive loop. Staying close might just fan the flames of their addiction.

I've seen it firsthand, gamblers lost in their addiction, resorting to dire acts, piling up debt, even scamming friends. It's a bitter pill to swallow, but the folks who care become likely targets of their desperate moves. In this mess, friends gotta look out for number one. Can't let the gambling vortex suck them in. Sometimes, tough love and keeping a safe distance can save friendships and prevent further hurt.

Leaving debt and scams is a complicated problem for gamblers who play with the anger and addiction that is happening here. I'm not in debt just for gambling, even now it makes me realize that having debt, especially when something changes plans, is difficult. Moreover, taking a loan with planning to be able to max-win, this is the fantasy of someone who gambles with anger, selfishness, greed and is too confident that he will get max-win or other big wins. I understand the position, they choose to be a scam, because they have nothing to pay anymore or they are trying to pay in the next few months. But, even if I had money, I chose to say no to a friend who wanted to borrow for gambling even though he said he would not gamble, if he was a gambler I would refuse. Because I realized if they lost, they might find themselves looking for another loan that would be hard on them.
Sometimes, tough love and keeping a safe distance can save friendships and prevent further hurt.
yeah, thats right, and i believe sometimes refusing is a form of attention in order to maintain friendships.
1470  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 16, 2023, 02:18:18 PM
Ac Milan made a mistake by allowing themselves to be defeated by a team that they will defeat without exerting themselves. I don't believe Ac Milan will be able to qualify for the Champions League the following season because it will be very difficult for them to meet up when the league is about to end. On the other hand, Inter Milan made more of an effort to ensure that even if they didn't win the league title, they should still be able to qualify.
Lazio is four points ahead of Ac Milan, thus even if they did earn a point, Lazio would still aim to win the remaining games to qualify for the champion league as well. This means that Ac Milan can not reach the necessary number of points to qualify for the champion league the next season.

Losing against Spezia is already a sign that AC Milan will not qualify for the UCL next season. If we are seeing from points, with the remaining 3 matches Milan can make the last 9 points. However, it is impossible for Inter to lose their matches. Even if Inter Milan loses in 2 matches, inconsistencies Milan's performance still can't make me sure that Milan will be able to take advantage from it. In fact, I'm worried that AC Milan will be under pressure which will make them lose points again.
1471  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Apakah Pemilik Token Mendapatkan Deviden? on: May 16, 2023, 11:05:32 AM
Saya baru denger istilah token reflections. Memang di crypto banyak keajaiban ya, ada yang tadinya murah menjadi muahale poll (mendadak kaya) ada yang mahal mendadak jadi debu (mendadak rungkad). Keajaiban lain juga seperti yg agan sebutkan yakni holder A dapat B. Oya, BTC dulu saat rilis BCH dan BTG juga pakai model ini ya? (maap saat BCH dan BTG muncul sy belum aktif mbounty - tapi setau saya begitu, holder BTC dapat BCH dan BTG saat rilis).

Tapi menurut saya metode Holder A dapat B, seolah seperti permainannya Dev. misal Dev sudah memiliki token yg populer dan memiliki kepercayaan tinggi maka memunculkan token/coin baru kepada holder, meskipun bagi user yg hold dapat cuan gratisan tapi kan dev pasti dapat alokasi yang gede jadi cuannya juga lebih gede. tapi ini menurut pendapat dalam pemikiran saya, kalo dalam prakteknya saya suka kalo dapat token gratisan.. hahaha
Saya bukan suhu kok mas, kebetulan aja ngerti dikit token ginian. haha

BCH & BTG bukan sistem yang sama dengan token yang saya sebutkan mas, melainkan holder BTC mendapatkan BCH & BTG berupa airdrop dari fork. Sedangkan refleksi token A reward token  B ini membutuhkan transaksi Token A yang terjadi di AMM (Pancakeswap, Uniswap dll) atau jika SCnya bekerja untuk tiap transaksi. Mekanismenya begini mas.

Sebut saja Token KOPI memberikan reward BUSD kepada holders, ketika saya membeli token KOPI maka pembelian saya akan dikurangi tax (variatif, misal 10%). Nah dari 10% ini nanti akan otomatis dijual melalui Smart contract (SC), dan dikonversi ke BUSD, dari 10% ini akan didistribusikan kepada semua holder token KOPI berdasarkan porsi/persentase hold token KOPI tersebut, tidak termasuk saya karena saya baru saja membeli tidak ikut tersnapshot, kecuali ada transaksi baru setelah saya dan token ada di Wallet saya, maka saya akan mendapatkan rewards BUSD tersebut.

Namanya juga bisnis mas, pebisnis pasti akan mencari keuntungan besar. Dev juga tidak ingin kerja bakti, sekalipun mereka niat scam  Cheesy
1472  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Dust Attack Pada Jaringan Bitcoin & Altcoin on: May 16, 2023, 10:48:44 AM
Hari ini saya iseng-iseng untuk ngetest upload file ke ordinals, dan hasilnya membuat saya mengetahui asal muasal dari transaksi 456 satoshi.


Jadi, jika kita ingin mengunggah NFT atau text-incriptions maupun mint token BRC-20, semuanya membutuhkan inscriptions fees sebesar 456 satoshi. Jadi, semakin meningkat transaksi BRC-20 maka memang akan meningkatkan jumlah transaksi 456 satoshi. Kemudian, yang saya cukup kaget pada bagian network fee untuk NFT yang sangat mahal, entah ini pengunaan biaya untuk apa, saya kurang paham. Mungkin ada yang mengerti monggo diinfokan. Saya juga menyempatkan untuk melakukan preview pada text-incriptions, dengan isi teks:

Code:
Testing untuk membuat text-inscriptions di Ordinals wallet.


text tersebut membutuhkan fee sekitar $3.
1473  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Apakah Pemilik Token Mendapatkan Deviden? on: May 15, 2023, 02:44:06 PM
Apakah sekarang cukup banyak token yang membagikan token kepada holder (deviden)? -snip


Ada cukup banyak kok mas,
Pada 2021 diperkenalkan metode reward yang hampir mirip dengan staking yang disebut dengan token reflections, konsepnya holder akan mendapatkan token apabila ada transaksaksi baik itu jual/beli maupun transfer antar wallet dengan porsi sesuai dengan jumlah token yang dihold. Misal, mas memiliki porsi 2%, maka mas akan mendapatkan alokasi 2% dari total transaksi yang terjadi. Token jenis ini juga ada mekanisma refleksi dengan reward yang berebeda, misal hold token A dapat token B. Jenis ini tidak perlu lock dan tidak perlu stake di smartcontract, cukup simpan di wallet pribadi.
Token jenis ini bisa ditemukan di jaringan ETH, BSC, Polygon. yang lain saya belum ngerti karena belum pernah make
1474  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Dust Attack Pada Jaringan Bitcoin & Altcoin on: May 15, 2023, 02:00:02 PM
Ya bisa jadi untuk menguntungkan kaum mereka sendiri. Karena tren-tren cryptocurrency sendiri telah bergeser ke hal baru. White paper yang diperjuangkan oleh satoshi nakamoto 12 tahun silam hampir bergeser dari tujuan utama bitcoin (yang hanya sebagai pembayaran) ke hal-hal jaringan pintar layaknya Ethereum.
Sepertinya tren transaksi meme sudah turun saat ini, dilihat dari mempool, transaksi $0.15 pun tidak seramai waktu saya membuat thread ini. Saya juga melihat volume di ordinalswallet pun tidak begitu banyak, dari data volume 7 hari, kebanyakan transaksi tidak mencapai 1 BTC. Mungkin komunitasnya enggan bertransaksi dengan ongkos mahal.

Entah apa yang ada dipikiran mereka sehingga menyempalkan coin meme (shit coin) yang awalnya erc20 lalu beralih ke brc20 (yang membebani server bitcoin untuk hanya sebagai pembayaran), pasti lama-lama akan banyak yang ngikuti, bikin coin lalu disempal ke blockchain bitcoin. Seharusnya mereka paham bahwa bitcoin itu bukan altcoin, Satoshi bikin bitcoin hanya untuk pembayaran, bukan untuk inovasi smart contract layaknya ethereum.
Saya pikir bagi mereka ini adalah inovasi yang dapat mengangkat usecase bitcoin, tetapi mungkin mereka salah dalam mempertimbangkan dengan potensi tingginya trafik yang membuat blockchain Bitcoin padat.
1475  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [Tips] Bagaimana Saya Aman Pakai Wallet Bitcoin Selama 5 Tahun Ini on: May 15, 2023, 01:49:27 PM
Sebenarnya harus online sebentar untuk mensikronkan balance, (mungkin saya ini memang cukup paranoid soal keamanan), setelah balance sinkron baru saya lakukan proses offline tadi.
Bukan terlalu paranoid sih mas kalau menurut saya, karena setiap orang memiliki cara tersendiri dalam mengambil keputusan, apalagi yang berhubungan dengan aset. Sudah sewajarnya kita harus memastikan keamanan wallet yang kita miliki, apalagi wallet yang dibutuhkan adalah wallet online. Ingat kasus BSI, sekelas bank pun dikabarkan mengalami kebocoran data, apalagi kita user biasa.
1476  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: May 15, 2023, 10:45:42 AM
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After all, once people enter a depressive spiral, it is difficult to get out without proper help, and problem gamblers can unfortunately make people who cares about them to slowly go away, because they way they act.

I think it depends on what the situatione. If the gambler still accept any positive input from his friends, it should be possible for him to continue his  friendship without having to stay away. But, if gamblers don't want to acppet any of input from those who care about them, of course they will stay away from it. However, if I learn from the events around me, most who are already blind with gamble, and really addicted, they actually leave leaving debts and even commit fraud against their own friends. For some reason his friends maybe trying to be careful because he don't wants become a victim from his friends that already getting gambling addicted.
1477  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 15, 2023, 10:37:06 AM
~ Super surprising defeat of AC Milan by Spezia (2-0)
AC Milan repeated the mistake when playing with a club they could have beaten. This is no longer the AC Milan fans had hoped for. Ultras gave input to representatives of AC Milan after the match was over, this proves that Ultras Milan expects seriousness from AC Milan to build a strong team. The defeats against Inter Milan and Spezia were enough to make the fans disappointed, because AC Milan is currently trying to catch 4th place so they can play in the UCL next season. I think Ultras also wants AC Milan can make an epic comeback for the 2nd leg.
1478  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: May 15, 2023, 10:22:19 AM
Barcelona have already secured the title this season and it comes after two seasons they failed to do so for their 27th LaLiga title, and the rumors of Messi's presence next season at the club are getting louder despite other rumors, but maybe it will be an added gift if Messi could return to Barca. And at the moment Laliga only sees club competition that wants to get out of the relegation zone which will still be interesting to look forward to because there are still a number of clubs whose rankings may drop even though at the moment it looks safe because the 4 matches that still have to be played will allow changes in the lower standings, and Valencia has moved away from that zone, and next week they will face Real Madrid who no longer have any targets so this match will be profitable for Valencia.

You are right, rumors of Messi's return to Barcelona become hot headline. Many media reports that Laporta will try to bring him back to Barcelona. Even though without Messi Barcelona has been able to show its quality, maybe as a club that brought Messi to the peak of his career as a football player, Laporta doesn't want legendary players at his club to be without a club for too long or play at a lower level outside the leagues of European clubs. However, Laporta must be willing to spend more money than this season, because Messi's salary might burden him, even though I know Messi is a brand for the Barcelona public.
1479  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 12, 2023, 04:49:52 PM
Even though milan has a chance to be in the top 4, it doesn't look like they will take more risks in this week's match. I think Milan will not appear with the main squad and use half of their second tier players more in the match against Spezia. What is clear is that they still hope to be able to win this match with a makeshift squad and not rely too much on the main players later.

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AC Milan has a chance in this week's match, because Inter Milan must face Napoli. Maybe for Napoli, whatever the result is no longer important. However, this is a big match, I'm sure Napoli will not let Inter win easily. If Napoli can show their best performance and win the match, then Milan need to handle next two match vs Spezia and Sampdoria with winning results. Well, if in the end AC Milan can get UCL spot, and made Inter Milan going to 5 end of season, maybe AC Milan fans are quite satisfied with their revenge for losing in the Semi Finals. but it will much better if AC Milan made a comeback on the 2nd leg.
1480  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: May 12, 2023, 02:19:42 PM
Ancelotti is that type of thing, he always wants to keep his very old players in the team, but I think he must have had his reasons for doing so. Maybe what he did at Milan was not in line with what he wanted, but when he is at Real Madrid with that in mind he still wins titles in all competitions.

Maybe next season will be the last season for several senior players at Real Madrid such as Benzema, Modric and Kroos because we know all three of them will get a contract extension for one more season. After that, for sure Ancelotti will think about the future of Real Madrid by bringing in some talented young players and I think Florentino Perez will start the Los Galacticos project again.

One thing I believe in from Ancelotti's decision is, old players who have played for the club for a long time is able to balanced the team's playing rythm. Then, it is also easier for older players to get coach instructions because they respect each other. In contrast to young players who are more easily defected and indisciplined. But, this is not a good strategy, Madrid have a good academy, Ancelotti should not be doing another mistake and needs to change. The academy is important, because we can find new young talents. Milan threw away their talents several times because Ancelotti lacked faith in young players. Of course with Perez, Ancelotti easy to buy new talented players, football is about business, having talented players from academy will giving them more money as Arsenal did. right  Grin
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