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14681  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Rise in violence 'linked to climate change' on: August 02, 2013, 04:12:46 AM
I thought global cooling was the new thing. Are people still on the global warming fad?

This is so confusing. Will we become less violent when the world cools down as the new fad suggests?
The early adopters have moved on to global cooling hysteria.  They figured they'd get the best seats on the bandwagon.

But there's still a good group of the Warmers who are faithful .... to ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E42mIvjzRw
14682  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: ASICMiner Rumors on: August 02, 2013, 01:06:34 AM
Now, if BTC can get up to 150-200 dollars then perhaps things change, and quick...

BTC price is totally irrelevant.  If that is what makes your money back, you could have just kept your BTC and had the same gains.  ALWAYS ALWAYS calculate your returns in BTC, never dollars.
This statement is only true when leverage ratio = 1.

In other words, if you buy a miner for 1 bitcoin and it's net production before it obsolesces is one bitcoin, you are even money and did the work for free.

If you buy a miner for 1 bitcoin and net production is 3 bitcoins before obsolescence, this is a leverage ratio of 3.  In this case, you have tripled your money.

Etc.
14683  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Politics does not matter. Only power. on: August 02, 2013, 12:59:56 AM
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So thinking about it that way encourages me that there is hope for a better tomorrow, for improvement of the human condition and societal organization.  Perhaps cryptocurrencies will be the sword that finally strikes a mighty blow at the root of centralized power:  control over money....

Yes, it could certainly be. 

For sure, in numerous third world counties in which such dire straits and corruption exist that there is no way Paypal could get established there, and hence, Amazon or Ebay cannot exist there.

Beyond those situations, where a separate private currency has obvious advantages (yes I am talking about someone in the US trading directly with someone in Kenya, etc) it is not so clear.

Would the emergence of a crypto currency in the USA say to the extent of 10% of paypal transactions  cause fundamental social or political change?  If so, how and what?
14684  Other / Politics & Society / Re: PRISM - Who else is disgusted by this? on: August 01, 2013, 07:37:59 AM

Skype backdoor confirmation...

 http://lists.randombit.net/pipermail/cryptography/2013-May/004224.html
14685  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Gigabyte 7970 Ghz Edition is bad - What's good? on: July 31, 2013, 03:33:14 PM
.....I sold off the Bitcoins I bought when the prices were low, and have just over $425 to put towards a 3rd card for my rig.
I've got an extra 550 watts on my PSU, so I don't think I have any real limitations other than temperature or money.
At the current prices, something like 0.55btc each, you could buy 7+ USB erupter miners and a 3-4A d07 usb expander.  See current sale under "mining, group buys, "Canary in the Mine"

 Then run btgminer under w7 or linux.

Your USB would contribute to hash rate 7*333 >= 2200 mH. 

That is four times the hash rate for the price of one card.  And yes, you can run the GPU and the USB miners at the same time.

Your two GPU would add 1100 giving you 3300 mH.
14686  Other / Politics & Society / Re: PRISM - Who else is disgusted by this? on: July 31, 2013, 11:31:03 AM

And what happens, exactly, when you are caught in the figurative crossfire between those folks "getting what they deserve" and the fellows dishing out the "just deserts"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIiUqfxFttM
14687  Other / Politics & Society / Re: PRISM - Who else is disgusted by this? on: July 31, 2013, 02:20:14 AM
Well all I can say is that many people have said that the would rather die fighting for freedom then to lose it; and that if they take away our freedoms, then the "terrists" have won. Hmmn? Hey! waitaminute! Somethin's not right here! Where'd all the freedom lovers go?

As for the mass-media, yes-sireee-bob, a large percentage of our population is now on to them (realizing that it's pretty much ALL controlled propaganda) and that's what worries me most now - because we very well may be approaching a critical mass: the dirty rats know this too. So what's in store for us next? What happens when you corner a scared and ruthless rat?
IF you have not seen it you'd not believe it.

A scared and cornered rat will attack a Doberman.  He'll straight on attack, with a jump sink his teeth right into the Doberman's nose, and have that dog crying like a baby.  He'll hang on and on and on, and the dog will try to shake him off, but that creates even greater pain.

DON'T get into the situation where there is a cornered rat and you have to deal with it, whether it is a actual Norway rat as I described above or the political more or less human style of rat.
14688  Other / Politics & Society / Re: PRISM - Who else is disgusted by this? on: July 30, 2013, 03:17:23 PM
In other words, many are now wide-awake for their "prism" raping.
A great many of these sorts of systems of top down control crumble when a country's economic self corrects after periods of severe overspending, such as the US is in right now.

...

Au contraire!  Corporations and our government here in the US are increasingly mutually supporting and merged via lobbying, revolving door structures, etc, so in many respects they can be considered as one entity.

Critically, a lot of power structures fail to retain control absent the sort of police state apparatus necessary for totalitarian population management.  I believe that people's pensions and other 'entitlements'* are already gone and have been for some time.  The only real shoe to drop is letting the population know (as they just did in Detroit) and the news is almost certain to be met with dis-satisfaction on the part of the losers.  Real wealth is generally zero-sum and it did not disappear.  It was transferred so a logical reconciliation which would resonate with the losers would be to transfer it back.  This is unacceptable to our political leadership who generally are composed of or installed by the winners, and hence the need for a 'turn-key' solution to keep the plebs in their place when the time comes.  That is THE primary rational for the most capable surveillance system the world has yet known.  Of course this is my personal hypothesis.

(*) 'Entitlements' are thus named because, for instance, I paid a lot into Social Security and am as such 'entitled' to get it back when I need it for retirement or whatever.  Of course I never counted on it and thus my toe dipped into Bitcoin, PM's, etc, and actively avoided such obvious scams as 401K (or 404K as I think it will come to be known.)



"404K", I got a chuckle out of that  Grin

This thread has gotten so deep, there's almost too much to respond to.

That's quite interesting isn't it?

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One of my largest concerns for the US is the blatant manipulation of the media. TV truly is serving only one purpose in this county and that is to make people content being sheep. People will always use the "it's only entertainment" excuse but come on, "Jershey Shore", "Honey Boo Boo", "Real Housewives of New Jersey" just to name a few... disgusting. I feel dumber just trying to think of these titles. You know there are actually thousands of devout fans that would put off interaction with other people or even call off of work to watch this garbage.

Past the point of appeasing idiots with horrendous TV programming - there comes the redirection of attention from important news. One clear case that has happened in the past two weeks was information about the Bradley Manning trial. Didn't hear much about that from the so called "leaders in news" in America. No, people were a million times more concerned with the Trayvon Martin case....

I just, I can't, can't even brain right now.


It could be something different, something radically different than that which you express.  Suppose that we are just coming out of a filthy stinking swamp and for the first time breathe fresh air.  Never know what you missed before, did you?

We now view - at least a fair percentage of people - view the TV mess from afar and see it quite clearly.

Even a great many of the people you criticize - the kids that watch reality TV - see the TV mess of news programming for exactly what it is - and see it from afar.

Those are sea changes at work, they are huge.

The fundamental dynamics of an enemy from afar, seeking totalitarian control over you and I, and the heroic seeking of independence, freedom and liberty are unchanged as struggles and perspectives of the individual.

But now that struggle is against branches of an over reaching US government, instead of coming from Eurasia.  As a distant enemy is Russia or China any "farther away" than Washington DC or the NSA?

14689  Other / Politics & Society / Re: SEC busts "pirateat40" aka Trendon Shavers...another one bites the dust on: July 30, 2013, 12:17:15 AM


A suggestion by no less than FOUR Zhou Tongeds must be followed.
14690  Other / Politics & Society / Re: SEC busts "pirateat40" aka Trendon Shavers...another one bites the dust on: July 29, 2013, 09:21:12 PM
See? You just can't help yourself.....

In spite of your proudly displaying such attributes as....

....the acumen of a true minion of the lowest knuckle dragging, bleary eyed progrssives.


I did sincerely ask and will again:

Why the bitterness?

What's with the hostility?

You've ran against a very diverse group of people.  They don't fit your little square and round pegs.  You know?  The square and round pegs in your IQ test?

Just relax, stay calm, do your personal best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJIjoE27F-Q
14691  Other / Politics & Society / Re: SEC busts "pirateat40" aka Trendon Shavers...another one bites the dust on: July 29, 2013, 05:28:19 PM
I don't have a chip on my shoulder, I simply post the way I need to to get the reaction I am looking for.
That is the very definition of trolling.  But the bitterness and unhappiness shows through quite clearly.

Oh I'm definitely "trolling", I've made it as obvious as possible and I still managed to get page after page of dumbass responses from you in the last two threads.

Again, I'd have to say that you aren't very bright.

In fact, even after saying this, I bet I can keep baiting you into arguments that you can't win.
I have to admit, you have had your moments of deep, keen insight into the affairs of the world.  You have utterly blasted apart vain and silly arguments presented on the Internet with the acumen of a true minion of the lowest knuckle dragging, bleary eyed progrssives.

I must admit that you were at your best...

...when the going was good....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhRUe-gz690
14692  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do You Think Bitcoin Could Have Existed in the 90s? on: July 29, 2013, 03:36:33 PM
Bitcoins in the 90s ??

Imagine the speed of transactions Cheesy
Although something like a bitcoin could have existed in the 1990s, the coin would not have been mined as is now. 

Presume instead a virtual currency backed by a stack of gold somewhere.

Then, could a public blockchain based on crypto exist?  Yep, and those computers could do the SHA 256.

Next, the transactions would be limited to those for which the system was effective.  Say international transactions.  The transaction fee would have been higher, too.  Maybe something like $25 would have been enough incentive for peer to peer ad hoc groups to maintain something like a block chain.
14693  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: July 29, 2013, 03:12:49 PM
Imo science is used to support significant amounts of tyranny in our society.  Which quite saddens me being a huge science enthusiast.

People should not be compelled to do or not be able to do things based on whether it is a scientifically good idea or not.  eg.  just because smoking is considered bad does not mean it should be banned.  Same for healthy food, you should be allowed to eat what is scientifically proven to be bad for you if that's what you wish.  etc.

Science says guns are dangerous obviously, just as many implements are dangerous.    That doesn't give anybody the right to start deciding who gets to own them and who doesn't.  The minute you shoot someone with one is when it becomes an issue, just as you get questioned the minute you decide to impale someone with your kitchen knife but not before just because you own one.

Of course the argument could be made (leave it for me, the guy in favor of "pro choice" vis a vis guns), to make the argument for the fascist...
  • GUNS ARE LIKE FLOURIDE IN THE WATER!  GUNS ARE LIKE MEASLES AND SMALL POX VACCINATIONS!
  • THE WISE ELDERS OF SOCIETY MUST TELL YOU WHAT YOU CAN AND CANNOT DO!

You see, even for those who are pro choice of guns, many of us recognize certain social imperatives across the whole of society.

14694  Other / Politics & Society / Re: PRISM - Who else is disgusted by this? on: July 29, 2013, 12:04:36 PM
In other words, many are now wide-awake for their "prism" raping.
A great many of these sorts of systems of top down control crumble when a country's economic self corrects after periods of severe overspending, such as the US is in right now.

In the meantime it would likely be reasonable to expect the bureaucracies and those profiting from this to try to support them to the last moment possible.  And I personally think that Microsoft, Google, Yahoo and the others named in cooperating with the NSA will be found to be the recipient of vast amounts of money not just for their cooperation, but to insure their willing and eager participation.  (And their support of the preferred political candidate).

This is the very Mafia concept of a "made man".

Translated:  These large companies are evil.  Take your business elsewhere.
14695  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [OP-ED] Pushing Back Against Corporate 'Counterfeit Science' on: July 29, 2013, 11:50:42 AM
IMO this thread merits some more discussion. It is an important topic that effects all of us.
There is a theory that in large part the only valid science will be that in private industry.  Taken on face value this is a bit of a stretch, let's separate "basic and applied" science, and consider it with reference to applied science.

The concept is that government funded science can and will be influenced by popular prejudice, klepto and crony capitalism, and various mythologies present in both the voting population, the media and the elected representatives.  And that science done by industry will more likely achieve useful and beneficial results - because those are what yield profits.  Not in all cases and not in the short term, but over the medium and longer terms.
14696  Other / Politics & Society / Re: SEC busts "pirateat40" aka Trendon Shavers...another one bites the dust on: July 29, 2013, 11:43:24 AM
I don't have a chip on my shoulder, I simply post the way I need to to get the reaction I am looking for.
That is the very definition of trolling.  But the bitterness and unhappiness shows through quite clearly.
14697  Other / Politics & Society / Re: SEC busts "pirateat40" aka Trendon Shavers...another one bites the dust on: July 29, 2013, 11:41:28 AM


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Under the federal law of the United States of America, tax evasion or tax fraud, is the purposeful illegal attempt of a taxpayer to evade payment of a tax imposed by the federal government. Conviction of tax evasion may result in fines and imprisonment.[1]
So now you have shifted the goal posts to the definition of a specific crime related to not paying taxes.  The number of people convicted of these crimes is quite small and they are carefully defined in black letter law.  Most people who send in a return simply get an audit, then they get a bill with interest and penalties.  So your broad brush statement that "if you don't pay taxes rich or poor you go to jail" is total bullshit.  In fact your very examples in support of your (changed)premise prove that.  The tax laws have a simple goal, to maximize revenue.  If you go and read some of the cases on tax fraud they are very, very different than the case of the average person who does not pay his taxes.

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House checks did not bounce; they were honored because the House Bank provided overdraft protection to its account holders
So you mean that rich and powerful people do get treated differently?

Oh, and if you look at the history of those events, if Gingrich had not made an issue out of it it would have gone on for another decade unchanged.  And the issue he made of it was political, not based on morality or ethics.  Sorry, you fail again.
14698  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: July 29, 2013, 11:29:06 AM
Imo science is used to support significant amounts of tyranny in our society.  Which quite saddens me being a huge science enthusiast.

People should not be compelled to do or not be able to do things based on whether it is a scientifically good idea or not.  eg.  just because smoking is considered bad does not mean it should be banned.  Same for healthy food, you should be allowed to eat what is scientifically proven to be bad for you if that's what you wish....

But that's pretty much the progressive creed, since the early part of the 20th century, when they championed Eugenics.  Scientific, right?

The emergence and distorsion of many social sciences including psychology, sociology is based on the idea that experts should guide and control the population.

Oh, back to the grim reality of areas where guns are banned....FirstAscent's progressive utopia TODAY IN NEW YORK:

http://gothamist.com/2013/07/26/subway_stabbing_victims_suit_agains.php

But don't worry...just control the media and control what's printed, and everything will appear WONDERFUL!
14699  Other / Politics & Society / Re: SEC busts "pirateat40" aka Trendon Shavers...another one bites the dust on: July 29, 2013, 04:06:06 AM
Wow, you really are stupid.

Do you really not know the difference between having an overdrawn account and passing bad checks?  

You said this:

If a person is caught not paying all of their due taxes, they go to jail rich or not. 

Down here writing hot checks is a crime the DA goes after on a regular basis - for the little people.

Let's see - is there prosecution for the members of Congress?  For the 10,000+ hot checks they wrote?

Nope.  So there is different treatment for rich people than for little people.

Oh and by the way, if a person is caught not paying all of their due taxes, they don't go to jail.  They just pay penalties plus the tax due.
14700  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: July 29, 2013, 03:59:55 AM
....

I noted earlier, that federal permit issuing is the only way that has any real means of keeping guns out of criminals' hands. Why don't you offer up any solution or suggestion to get guns out of criminals' hands? Or do you just not care? Do you just want the gun population to rise and rise, and with that, we'll see gun deaths rise and rise as well.
What other types of centralized Federal new laws and power do you advocate?

So far it's pretty clear that (unlike the OP) it's not "assault weapons", it's all guns.

Let's hear the whole platform.  What else would improve society and reconstruct it more to your liking?

Do you not recall your own recent comments? I see no need to explain it all again. I guess you've got some reading to do. I'll quote your recent comments for reference below:

The funniest thing of all: people don't read my posts. For if they did, they'd stop arguing against things I haven't said.

Go back and read them, and then you'll discover my position on guns. It addresses the faults of the system and factors in the most blatantly obvious statistical data.

I've read and fully understood your statist, totalitarian rants.
No, I am asking what stands you'd like to see outside of the matter of firearms.  From the federal level.  Carbon controls?  If so, how?  Tracking of individuals 24/7?  That could be used to deduce almost all crime.  But what would you control at the federal level?  What would you do with Exxon?  With shale oil?
What kinds of vehicles should we drive?  How about a mandate on max carbon emissions per human?  How about birth control?  Max of one child?

You name it.

We're discussing guns. I have some threads on the environment, if you want to wade into that territory, go find them.
No problem, I was just curious.  Generally, liberal controller personality types do not want to just control one item or one type of behavior.  Often, it doesn't seem to matter what they control - as long as it's something. 

I suspect that you're one of those types who uses political ideologies to decide what you believe about scientific findings. Personally, I use scientific findings to motivate my political ideologies.
I think it's more complex than that, but I was just trying to get an idea of what this better and more utopian world with no guns would look like - from your point of view.  Sort of trying to see the vision.  Did not mean to derail into other subjects. 

This isn't new with guns, by the way.  There's been societies with sword and spear control plans in the past.
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