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1481  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Haney vs Kambosos II (Undisputed) on: October 16, 2022, 12:34:52 PM
^^ Yes, and a young age of 23 he has accomplished a lot, undisputed and without a lost, that is truly a amazing accomplishment for him. And I guess Kambosos is just one hit wonder and I doubt that he can be a champion again. He is a warrior no doubt, but against the best, I don't think he can win with the likes of Davis or Ryan Garcia. But it will be good to see him match against those two though. Just to have some excitement again. And now we are hype seeing this version of Haney against Lomachenko.
We never know, if Kambasos would stay in the current division, then he won't be a champion again, maybe it's time for him to move up and try his luck, but the way I see it, it looks like his full talent has already been displayed and he is not as great as the boxers whom fans admire and believed to be a future hall of famer.

What about a rematch between Kambosos and Lopez? I think that would be fun.
1482  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13 on: October 16, 2022, 11:45:33 AM
Inoue via knockout is much better rather than betting with a decision with low odds.

I think that would not be the betting option we can expect here in this match.

With Naoya Inoue's Knock Out rate, the odds instead for him to win by the decision will have decent odds and not low. I'm also sure that Inoue's Winning by Knock Out especially in the early rounds, probably between Rounds 1-4, won't have that good odds since chances for the fight to be finished on that said rounds are possible as we are talking Naoya Inoue and he is against a super underdog.

Maybe there's another betting odds that would satisfy us, then that's the time to choose. All I believe is that it's not going to be hard for Inoue, and since he is a knockout artist, I'm expecting to see his signature body shot to KO Butler. Rounds 4-6 I think has a better odds compared to rounds 1-3.
1483  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: October 16, 2022, 11:20:25 AM


Reports said that it is just a minor injury, so finger crossed, and hopefully we can see him when the regular season starts. The team is exciting to see with him around, last year, we thought that they will have a bad season. But Ingram pushes them and so with Zion back in the line up, we should expect the Pelicans to be on the upper side of their division. Yes, he is not that prone to injury, he is just super athletic for his body that it really did take a toll on him. But he has slim down already and that is a good indication that he is very serious to make a huge comeback.

That's good, well, last season they have a good run despite not having Zion, so we can expect that at the start of the season they will be one of the top teams in the West. Getting in the playoffs again with a healthy Zion, for sure they'll become better and we might see them a great contender in the West.

Zion's ability to dominate inside is very big especially now that Ingram is very confident already with his shooting and attacking the paint.
1484  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Dmitry Bivol vs Zurdo Ramirez on: October 15, 2022, 05:58:30 PM
Even 168 seems to be few for Dmitry. He is a big guy by nature. I just cant imagine him being 168. Dmitry seems to be +85kg in off season and 79.4 (or 175lbs) on the scales. Dropping almost 10kg just to have a rematch? It is Canelo, who needs to gain weight and fight in 175, to rebuild reputation. Canelo needs to beat Dmitry "on Dmitry's field", to gain confidence and respect back. What is the point for Dmitry to cut, when it was Canelo who wanted to test himself in light heavyweight.  
Yes, I think if there will be a rematch between Dmitry and Saul Alvarez it will be 175 lbs. Alvarez can definitely made 175 lbs easy, but Bivol will have problems making that weight.

And if I'm not mistaken, the first fight is 175 lbs so not sure why they need to change in the rematch unless Alvarez wants to take advantage of making Bivol life very difficult because he will have to squeeze his body to super middleweight.

And Canelo might be left hanging if he will suddenly decide to contest the fight at 168 lbs. because Bivol won't surely agree with that as in the first place, Canelo lost in 175 so it's expected to contest the rematch at the same weight. I'm not sure what is in their contract but I think Bivol has a right to deny a rematch if Canelo will active the rematch in super-middle.

I agree and I reckon that Canelo doesn't have the power to call the shots this time, he'll be lucky if Bivol will make some time for him because I think an undisputed fight in the light-heavyweight division will be the next thing to happen, but if Bivol will got defeated here, it will be Ramirez who will have the opportunity to fight Bob Arum's monster cow while Canelo won't have the appetite to fight Bivol because there's no title in the line anymore.

Canelo though is still the cash cow and for me, can still call the shots if he wants. But maybe he has respect to Bivol after he was defeated. And so it is still a good chance that Canelo will seek revenge to the persona against Bivol win or lose.

But Bivol has only a good option to fight Beterviev if the Canelo fight won't happen after his Ramirez win. And yes, this should be 175 lbs no doubt.

Canelo can still call the shots regardless of the result of this fight but he cannot demand because he is not in the A-side anymore, now he's the one chasing while Bivol is looking at him as a finished chapter. So, we will probably see it soon if these guys wants to have second dance. Before that, we should witness this explosive fight first.
1485  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Haney vs Kambosos II (Undisputed) on: October 15, 2022, 05:36:11 PM
Golden Boy already know that it's indeed time for Garcia to face boxer that is near his prowess/caliber, Javier Fortuna was his last test to make sure if Garcia is already fit to fight heavy names and it turns out that Garcia can do it because he defeated Fortuna with a good outcome and no signs of struggles. Although Tank Davis is a different story because he is an experienced boxer who defeated big names in industry unlike Garcia, but the latter have the chance because he have a good KO power.

It's rare to have a boxer like Garcia who has both the charisma and skills to be a champion, that's why they are carefully giving him some fights that are not really that interesting because of his poor opponents. But this is just their way to make him strong and when the time they finally let them fight against a boxer like Tank Davis, he already learned a lot and has a higher chance to defeat him because already has enough pre-fights to face strong opponents.

So what do you think? is he already ready to fight a champion in his next game? Because if you'll ask me, I would say 100% ready, he has to take a bigger risk if he wants to earn bigger reward, and fighting Tank Davis could be a good one, not the toughest fight for sure but it's not going to be easy either.

Judging from his recent fight against Fortuna, it is clear that he is back although he still have some difficulties in his jabs but he can work that out. Fighting Davis will not be that hard for him because he have the right tools, he just have to time it carefully when to dispose those tools because Davis is also quite clever mainly because of the experiences he had.
1486  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anderson Silva vs Jake paul who you bet on? on: October 15, 2022, 04:10:29 PM


That is a good point! But we know that experience will somehow help Silva in this fight, Jake Paul might be a decent boxer with good knockout punch but that will be a challenge in his side to do because Silva at his age is still quite agile to evade any serious punch. Anyway, just as you said, this is a rare interesting fight that we should see soon. My side belongs to the MMA HOF, we'll see who will be victorious at the end of the day.

If there's one fighter who can challenge Jake Paul it's going to be Silva, Silva only has one fight in boxing but that one fight is enough to show boxing experts and critics that he has what it takes, I have a feeling that this fight will be very much different from all the fight Jake Paul has, I don't want to see Silva getting knock out just like what happened to Woodley as this will tarnish his image and his legacy, I also noticed that both fighters have big respect to each other, let's see in the ring if they will still respect each other.

No mate, Anderson Silva already had 4 professional fights in boxing and this is his 5th fight. Two of those fights happened last year in just a span of four mere months, imagine Silva's age, yet he managed to attain that feat and finished it all successfully even if he is an MMA fighter. That's why I'm confident to say that this will be Jake's first defeat, I just hope that this isn't staged tho.
1487  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: October 15, 2022, 03:45:39 PM
I missed the game of Pelicans but upon looking for some updates and news about it, I was shocked and surprised again about Zion Williamson. This guy just got recovered and then he's injured again.

But as per the news, it's not that critical as before. Well, hopefully it isn't so that he'll come back as what he has said.

And the Pelicans could say worth it for the contract they got for him.  Grin
https://www.nba.com/news/zion-williamson-twists-left-ankle
He's okay.
You scared me there for a while after reading your news. I didn't watch their game too.
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“I want to use the right term, but in the moment, it didn’t feel too good,” Williamson said. “It was one of those things that happened and I popped back up like, ‘Yeah, I’m straight.’ Played a few minutes after that, felt fine, then they sent me to the back just to double-check.”
We could say the weight trim is working. If he is still heavy it won't end up like this. Maybe worst.
I've just read a couple of headlines and that made me look at what happened and good thing that it's not that bad as before. He's just getting back on shape and said some words that he's going to show what he hasn't shown before.

I was not able to watch the game but good thing the injury is not serious, otherwise, it will be a complete disappointment not seeing him again this season. The Pelicans have invested on him, trusting his recovery and that he could come back fully healthy again, but if major injury would happen again, I don't know, maybe they will find a way to trade him.
Yep. It wasn't that bad at all.

He could end up like the other players that have been so good and expected a lot but then, injury disabled them. We can name a few of them that have went miserably because of injury.

Let's just be optimistic that Zion is much different this time and fortunately, it was just a minor injury. Let the kid do the work because I believe he can still make a difference, he is not that prone just like the other players who ended their careers much earlier.
1488  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13 on: October 14, 2022, 01:14:09 PM
That kind of odds will not gonna attract bettors to bet on Inoue ML, it looks like an easy 2% return but would you guys have the balls to risk your money for 2% return? The chances to win is high but the risk is high as well, you choose.

In the first place, it's really obvious that Moneyline odds for Naoya Inoue do not make sense for placing a bet.

Besides, as a bettor, there is another way around to take advantage of Inoue being a Favorite like; on what round he will win, on what round he can Knock Out Butler, or if the Japanese monster will win via Decision, etc. Not unless risking high odds in favor of Paul Butler.

Anyways, let's just wait for other betting options. Don't expect though that Inoue will have decent odds of Winning between Round 1-3 for an obvious reason.

If you look at Naoya's previous fight against Donaire Kans to make this a KO, it's obviously very big.
Even though Butler is still strong enough and able to fight but I personally feel that a knockout is still possible and this could also happen very quickly.

Inoue is still amazing to me and I'm definitely going to bet on a knockout under round 4.

I can only say that Paul Butler has no chance of winning. And, I agree that there is a huge possibility that Butler will get knockout might be around round 4 - 6.

Best to invest huge money to bet for Inoue since the odds are low. Much better to have option for knockouts for every rounds which I think will be much worth it.

Paul Butler probably knows that already that's why he is just taking an advantage while he can earn because there's really no way that Butler can give Inoue a hard time especially with the monster's current abilities. Butler may have a delicious odds on this fight but I doubt it will tempt the bettors because his chances are almost near to impossible, Inoue via knockout is much better rather than betting with a decision with low odds.
1489  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Dmitry Bivol vs Zurdo Ramirez on: October 14, 2022, 12:34:20 PM
Even 168 seems to be few for Dmitry. He is a big guy by nature. I just cant imagine him being 168. Dmitry seems to be +85kg in off season and 79.4 (or 175lbs) on the scales. Dropping almost 10kg just to have a rematch? It is Canelo, who needs to gain weight and fight in 175, to rebuild reputation. Canelo needs to beat Dmitry "on Dmitry's field", to gain confidence and respect back. What is the point for Dmitry to cut, when it was Canelo who wanted to test himself in light heavyweight.  
Yes, I think if there will be a rematch between Dmitry and Saul Alvarez it will be 175 lbs. Alvarez can definitely made 175 lbs easy, but Bivol will have problems making that weight.

And if I'm not mistaken, the first fight is 175 lbs so not sure why they need to change in the rematch unless Alvarez wants to take advantage of making Bivol life very difficult because he will have to squeeze his body to super middleweight.

And Canelo might be left hanging if he will suddenly decide to contest the fight at 168 lbs. because Bivol won't surely agree with that as in the first place, Canelo lost in 175 so it's expected to contest the rematch at the same weight. I'm not sure what is in their contract but I think Bivol has a right to deny a rematch if Canelo will active the rematch in super-middle.

I agree and I reckon that Canelo doesn't have the power to call the shots this time, he'll be lucky if Bivol will make some time for him because I think an undisputed fight in the light-heavyweight division will be the next thing to happen, but if Bivol will got defeated here, it will be Ramirez who will have the opportunity to fight Bob Arum's monster cow while Canelo won't have the appetite to fight Bivol because there's no title in the line anymore.
1490  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Haney vs Kambosos II (Undisputed) on: October 14, 2022, 12:13:00 PM
That may be the case and possible scenario, but I seriously think that Garcia and Davis fight is almost inevitable because both boxers are contesting to reach Haney, Ryan cannot go to Haney directly that is why he is teasing Davis because that is his key to have a fight with the undisputed champion, Devin Haney and I sincerely hope that this fight will happen soon.
I doubt that's the reason why Garcia and Davis doesn't want to fight each other. Honestly every fight of both Garcia and Davis, they're always become a favorited boxer and they're not become a challenger. This because they're don't want to lose and ruin their undefeated record. Fight with Haney obviously will make they become underdog and there's a big possibility they will lose. Moreover there's a news if they're looking for move to higher weight division.

Whatever it is, it's still unclear what Garcia and Davis wanted because they could fight anytime if they wanted to, maybe, just maybe, they are still building the hype to make sure that their fight will sell out in case they will make it happen in the future. And I think what you said was just a rumor, we can't either confirm if they're really looking forward to climb the next division.

More on that kind of possibilities, they are really chasing each other in case that handlers and promoters start to negotiate. It will be easier from both camps to sell the fight with their fans; I see your point and that is also what I'm seeing with this social posts exchange. They are both pro and they are known fighters who are ready to go inside the ring.

It's just a good negotiation to start everything up. We will see more on these two while waiting for any updates regarding to possibilities of the upcoming fight.

Meanwhile, let's all wait and be focus with the rematch of Haney and Kambosos

Well, that possibility has gotten bigger now and it's been in the news that Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia decided to have some small talk in a club and afterwards they both posted "done" which brings curiousity to the people. Later on, it's been revealed that both camps are indeed having some discussion to make this fight happen, I assume it will happen in December or January. Meanwhile, Kambosos vs Haney fight is already around the corner. What do you think mate, will Kambosos outbox Haney this time?  Grin
1491  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anderson Silva vs Jake paul who you bet on? on: October 14, 2022, 11:46:39 AM
When you say they both know how to box. Isn't Jake Paul's main job being a boxer anyway?

Anderson Silva is really one of the GOAT in the UFC he is a good striker, I agree with that. but cage and just boxing are really different. The age gap is also a big factor, and let me also point out that even if Anderson Silva was at his best, he couldn't beat Jake Paul in a boxing match, so it's clear where I'm going to spend my money.

In case you didn't know, Silva already had two victories last year in professional boxing matches. He defeated the former middleweight champion,
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. and knocked out the HOF Tito Ortiz too. He might be old but we can't yet consider that as a disadvantage nor a factor on this fight against Jake Paul who haven't yet boxed any legit boxer. Anyway, your money your rules Grin

True, Anderson may be passed his prime but his opponent can still be considered a novice in boxing since Jake Paul opponents are not really a boxer but washed-out athletes of different sports.  So that evens out the score.  The only worrying thing about Jake Paul is that he has a knockout power which can be devastating if Silva is unable to absorb those power punches.  Regardless if Silva can evade heavy blows then I might think that Silva has a better chance of winning, unless the fight is scripted  Grin.

That will be the downfall of Silva because we know that his jaw is easy to crack and Jake Paul won't have a hard time cracking it if he can manage to land a solid punch on it, he just needed to land a single or two to defeat Silva but I bet that won't come easy because Silva knows that his opponents are aiming on his head that's why he is trained to get evasive maneuvers and by the way, he is good at it.
Taking away that fact, it will be an entertaining and an even fight, I just hope they didn't have a pact tho.
Silva is a legendary MMA/UFC fighter who would be considered one of the best, but he is too old to take on a young 25-year-old fighter who has been training hard for the past few years. and yes Jake Paul is a POS who has never fought a professional boxer but he has trained boxing from an experienced boxing coach and he is quite active and his strength, his stamina will far exceed current Silva.
If Jake Paul was 25 against 46-year-old Anderson Silva, I think he won, and if he had fought Silva then or in his prime, Paul would have been hit hard and would have probably hung up his gloves.
and anyway this will be an interesting match and also quite entertaining to watch.

That is a good point! But we know that experience will somehow help Silva in this fight, Jake Paul might be a decent boxer with good knockout punch but that will be a challenge in his side to do because Silva at his age is still quite agile to evade any serious punch. Anyway, just as you said, this is a rare interesting fight that we should see soon. My side belongs to the MMA HOF, we'll see who will be victorious at the end of the day.
1492  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: October 14, 2022, 11:29:00 AM
"Fined but not suspended."
https://www.nba.com/news/draymond-green-fined
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Draymond Green has been fined but won’t be suspended by the Golden State Warriors for a violent punch to the face of teammate Jordan Poole last week.

Coach Steve Kerr said after Tuesday’s preseason win against Portland that Green would return to practice Thursday, then play for the defending NBA champions against Denver on Friday night and again in the season opener Tuesday against the Lakers. Kerr, general manager Bob Myers and players have met to decide how to best proceed — including Green and Poole talking to each other.
Watching porn or having a relationship inside the team is worst now than knocking down your teammate.  Cheesy
Here I thought NBA is getting stricter about its rules but I am back to the reality that they are not. Leaked video or not they should be fair about their punishments. What if other players will try the same thing and no camera caught it? Even if there is, they won't be afraid to do it too because they can pay up.
It's safe to assume that this had been the most controversial summer of the league. So many happened in just months of waiting before the tip-off.

It should be fair and square, a fine and a suspension should be given to any players or staff that have broken some rules and shows unprofessionalism. It seems to me that the Warriors is not taking it seriously even if they knew that Poole's family isn't happy of what had happened. It's really fortunate enough that it was caught on video because if not, almost 100% we wouldn't know about it. What a controversial off-season!

Agree with that, it seemed like the consequence is very light, it was a clear violence, he should be suspended at a very least. Well, that's how NBA works,  the system is not fair as it favors more to players whom they think is very valuable to a team.

The league itself isn't the one who decided about that matter, it's the franchise because it happened on their watch and not during season games or anything that will be concerned to the NBA. Just like Ime Udoka, it's the Boston Celtics who gave him a year long suspension and that's is understandable because the franchise need to set an example to their players and staff that stuffs like that is not allowed, it was a hard decision for the team after what they achieved last season but they had to. But it seems to me that the Warriors doesn't have that much courage to give at least a month long suspension for Green, a fine won't suffice because we know they can afford it.
1493  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Dmitry Bivol vs Zurdo Ramirez on: October 11, 2022, 05:58:06 PM

After Ramirez, there's only the Beterbiev-Bivol undisputed fight that is supposed to happen at 175. Other than Beterbiev which is difficult to negotiate due to its different promoter and network, pretty sure small Bivol would be willing to drop to 168 for more money and the chance to become undisputed if this is the weight Canelo wants for the rematch.

I don't think Canelo has the authority to ask him to climb because as of now, he is the underdog here. It's really good to see if will gonna happened the fight between Bivol and Beterbiev, But Bivol needs to beat Ramirez first. It would be one of the greatest fights that would gonna happen because both of these guys have clean records. Unlike Crawford and Spence, these two here are real warriors and there will be no reason for them not to fight and be given a chance.

Right! Canelo may have the power to activate the rematch but seriously, he cannot demand Bivol to fight him in super-middleweight as in the first place, Canelo lost the fight in light-heavy so if he wishes to fight Bivol once again, it should be in the same division. Speaking of Bivol, Beterbiev and Ramirez, these three undefeated boxers is not avoiding any fight and they are the main reasons why the light-heavyweight division is now interesting. Forget Crawford and Spence, I do believe that one of them is really avoiding the fight to protect their record, and one of them is playing Mayweather's book.
1494  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Haney vs Kambosos II (Undisputed) on: October 11, 2022, 05:30:40 PM
That may be the case and possible scenario, but I seriously think that Garcia and Davis fight is almost inevitable because both boxers are contesting to reach Haney, Ryan cannot go to Haney directly that is why he is teasing Davis because that is his key to have a fight with the undisputed champion, Devin Haney and I sincerely hope that this fight will happen soon.
I doubt that's the reason why Garcia and Davis doesn't want to fight each other. Honestly every fight of both Garcia and Davis, they're always become a favorited boxer and they're not become a challenger. This because they're don't want to lose and ruin their undefeated record. Fight with Haney obviously will make they become underdog and there's a big possibility they will lose. Moreover there's a news if they're looking for move to higher weight division.

Whatever it is, it's still unclear what Garcia and Davis wanted because they could fight anytime if they wanted to, maybe, just maybe, they are still building the hype to make sure that their fight will sell out in case they will make it happen in the future. And I think what you said was just a rumor, we can't either confirm if they're really looking forward to climb the next division.
1495  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anderson Silva vs Jake paul who you bet on? on: October 10, 2022, 05:14:12 PM
When you say they both know how to box. Isn't Jake Paul's main job being a boxer anyway?

Anderson Silva is really one of the GOAT in the UFC he is a good striker, I agree with that. but cage and just boxing are really different. The age gap is also a big factor, and let me also point out that even if Anderson Silva was at his best, he couldn't beat Jake Paul in a boxing match, so it's clear where I'm going to spend my money.

In case you didn't know, Silva already had two victories last year in professional boxing matches. He defeated the former middleweight champion,
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. and knocked out the HOF Tito Ortiz too. He might be old but we can't yet consider that as a disadvantage nor a factor on this fight against Jake Paul who haven't yet boxed any legit boxer. Anyway, your money your rules Grin

True, Anderson may be passed his prime but his opponent can still be considered a novice in boxing since Jake Paul opponents are not really a boxer but washed-out athletes of different sports.  So that evens out the score.  The only worrying thing about Jake Paul is that he has a knockout power which can be devastating if Silva is unable to absorb those power punches.  Regardless if Silva can evade heavy blows then I might think that Silva has a better chance of winning, unless the fight is scripted  Grin.

That will be the downfall of Silva because we know that his jaw is easy to crack and Jake Paul won't have a hard time cracking it if he can manage to land a solid punch on it, he just needed to land a single or two to defeat Silva but I bet that won't come easy because Silva knows that his opponents are aiming on his head that's why he is trained to get evasive maneuvers and by the way, he is good at it.
Taking away that fact, it will be an entertaining and an even fight, I just hope they didn't have a pact tho.
1496  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: October 10, 2022, 04:03:09 PM

I guess he just said that he's not rushing at all because he wasn't drafted but we know that he is already hoping to be a part of the NBA, things happen for a reason and clearly, it is not yet his time. He has the height advantage but that won't do nothing if he can't guard the center as he's still so thin, he needs to use this time to buff a bit so that he won't be cracked when someone wants to posterize him or get past him.

Yes, the anticipation was there if he can get on board the NBA but yeah anything happens for a reason and I think he is not really ready, that height of his if not used properly will surely just become a hinder, and he needs to be subtle in making preparations and it is good to start with his defense and that would be absurd if he is the tall guy in the court but has to deal with getting posterized by guys the same his size, right I think he lacks the passion to make defense on the recent Oklahoma Thunders game, so that is a problem at all,

Right, he already knows what to do in-terms of offensive play but what about during defense? People are hyping him especially from the Philippines because he will be the first full-blooded Filipino basketball player to play in the NBA, but his fans should also know that he is not that ready, and he will just get embarrassed because he is still raw mainly in his defense capabilities. He should work that out as his future role is a center, he can't avoid the times when there will be a player who will try to embarrass him inside.
1497  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Fernando Martinez vs Jerwin Ancajas rematch - Oct.8 on: October 10, 2022, 02:43:38 PM
Jerwin has to move up, he has no power in this fight, he adjusted well, but unfortunately, he wasn't fast and he does not have volume punches. The same result in their first meeting, it was very clear that once again he was still dominated by Martinez.

Congratulations to Martinez, and to the bettors who took Martinez to win via decision.

We have seen that Martinez deserved the belt after this second match.
Some were thinking because of Ancajas' weight issues, why the first match was won by Martinez.
But here, Ancajas already seemed to be prepared and yet, he failed to get back his belt.
Let us see what the next plans of Ancajas' camp now that he didn't get the belt this time around.
Seems that he should move to the bantamweight division and maybe he will excel again in this sports.

Such a disappointment lost for Jerwin, and unfortunately we are all wrong. He was one of the best champion of his division but this fact is being shattered by Martinez and he truly is now the champion. Congrats to him.

Ancajas has still a bright future though, he has to take a rest first for the rest of the year and talk and sit down with his camp and manager, yes bantamweight should be his next target, Inoue after Butler is moving up in weight so he should try bantamweight and see how it goes.

Indeed! We didn't saw that coming because all we know is that Ancajas is still comfortable to fight Martinez as he did manage to withstand the latter's punches in their first encounter given Ancajas's situation that time, but Martinez has improved as well and gave Ancajas some struggles. I definitely agree that he should rest and take his time to reflect whether it's time to move up or should he start from the beginning in the same division, either way, he's still young and probably can face other champions in both said divisions above.
1498  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13 on: October 09, 2022, 08:14:14 PM
Just to be clear, I'm not a fan of Naoya Inoue but just referring to the close one that will happen in the match.

Even for let's say Butler is able to beat Casimero, still it doesn't change the fact that he is nowhere within Inoue's league.

People are not underestimating Butler without a good basis.
I find it interesting that there are the other side that thinks that Butler will win against Inoue. But to those that have seen how good really is Inoue, you'll be like us who have the idea why we're thinking like that.

But it's okay to think that it could be Butler getting this match because of what you have seen as well. So, it will end up that we could be wrong or it could be you when the time comes. Although, it's not a biggie really.

Upset can happen, we cannot deny that, other than that, people who think Butler has more chance of winning are simply expressing a fan's wish and is blind to actual statistics of both boxers.

That might be an expensive mistake that will cost Butler another defeat if he will try to prove that he can give Inoue a good fight that will last longer than 7 or 8 rounds, a 3rd defeat in fact because I can already imagine that he will lose by a way of KO or TKO as a decision is not that likely to happen especially in this fight where Inoue is looking forward to give a message to the boxers in the next weight class.

I am still thinking of the many possibilities available on how Inoue will win this fight.  With the previous performance of Butler, my mind tells me that it would be an early knockout but the performance of Butler against Sultan tells me a possible late-game decision.

Just let them be, cannot really blame them if they are inclined to see Butler win although that is almost near to impossible because their idol is now facing the monster of Japan which is also a knockout artist.

I believe that KO or TKO is likely the result in this fight but I think the bookies will just list a low odds on KO/TKO in favor of Inoue because they knew the likelihood outcome of the fight. That said, a win by a decision will be much more attractive but let's see it soon as we still have 2 more months to go.
1499  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anderson Silva vs Jake paul who you bet on? on: October 09, 2022, 07:47:45 PM
When you say they both know how to box. Isn't Jake Paul's main job being a boxer anyway?

Anderson Silva is really one of the GOAT in the UFC he is a good striker, I agree with that. but cage and just boxing are really different. The age gap is also a big factor, and let me also point out that even if Anderson Silva was at his best, he couldn't beat Jake Paul in a boxing match, so it's clear where I'm going to spend my money.

In case you didn't know, Silva already had two victories last year in professional boxing matches. He defeated the former middleweight champion,
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. and knocked out the HOF Tito Ortiz too. He might be old but we can't yet consider that as a disadvantage nor a factor on this fight against Jake Paul who haven't yet boxed any legit boxer. Anyway, your money your rules Grin
1500  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Dmitry Bivol vs Zurdo Ramirez on: October 09, 2022, 07:19:07 PM
Canelo fighting for undisputed title in light-heavyweight? There's a chance but he got to be that lucky if he can have that chance because there are others in the said division who are lined up already. Also, Beterbiev might be hailed as undisputed here and Canelo will fight him? Doesn't make sense because he'll just add another defeat in his record. He can't even defeat Bivol and he is thinking that he can crack Artur Beterbiev? Surely, that's a suicide and might be the first time seeing Canelo sleeping in the canvass.

Well since Canelo doesn't have any tasks left to do in the Super Middleweight, what's next is trying to dominate the Light Heavyweight even for others, its a suicide for Canelo. At least he's not the type of boxer that will protect his legacy by just staying in his comfort weight division.

Just look at how the boxing community responds when Canelo was defeated by Bivol. There's not much criticism because at least he tried moving up. Although he failed to win against Bivol, it doesn't mean he can't come back anymore.

I guess we will see it soon if he will take that chance to fight the undisputed boxer it may be Zurdo, Beterbiev or Bivol and I strongly believe that it's the latter who will reign as undisputed. Aside from that, Canelo might be busy in SMW as well as he will also have to defend his titles, or the sanctioning bodies will give him a mandatory opponent. Well, for us, Canelo is already irreplaceable because he managed to attain the highest attainable rank in the boxing, and he just need to accept sometimes that there are certain divisions that doesn't suit to him.
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