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1521  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BPC] BitpopCoin | X11 PoS 7% | Hero Member Dev | No IPO/Premine | Ninja Launch on: July 19, 2014, 10:29:42 PM
we do need bittrex.

also multisig technology and some applications on blockchain.
1522  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [VIA] ★ Viacoin ★ ~ the future of digital currency ~ ★ on: July 19, 2014, 04:06:09 PM
i hold  0.3 million XC coin, but i  also like viacoin very much!

viacoin is the future.
1523  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [VIA] ★ Viacoin ★ ~ the future of digital currency ~ ★ on: July 19, 2014, 04:02:47 PM
anybody send  Email to mintpal and crystpy?
1524  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [VIA] ★ Viacoin ★ ~ the future of digital currency ~ ★ on: July 19, 2014, 03:58:55 PM
any innovations?

oh, forgive me, this is the last time i post this:



The Story of Viacoin



If there is something I have learned over the years, it’s that innovation is incremental and good ideas are usually built on the shoulders of existing, well tested and proven technologies. Bitcoin is a good example of this, weaving well seasoned public key cryptography and other mathematical genius with peer to peer protocols, stack based programming languages and proof-of-work.

What makes Bitcoin brilliant is how it unites existing technologies to make something completely revolutionary.

It is also interesting to note how it takes a few stepping stones to get technology right. HashCash was not the solution for digital money, but without it coming first, maybe the next step of Bitcoin would not have been thought of.

I began taking Bitcoin seriously in April 2013 and in July/August 2013 I read J.R. Willett’s Mastercoin proposals where he suggested using blockchain timestamping in Bitcoin to embed data according to a new protocol which could be used to effectively create a new coin within a coin. I found this intriguing but had some technical objections and I was quite vocal during the debates, examples here and here.

Without getting too technical, there is a concept called ‘blockchain bloat’ and it’s quite a political problem within the Bitcoin developer space (because the definition is open to interpretation), and there are continuous efforts to reduce it.

By October I decided I was going to address my objections by creating my own solution. However, I got pretty caught up in other things and then the Bitcoin bull-run took my attention and I became quite well known in trading circles. Then in January alone came Counterparty, another protocol designed to embed a new Mastercoin like protocol in the Bitcoin blockchain. This attempt was in my opinion much better and further inspired me to pursue my original solution, since this was a confirmation I was on the right track, but my attention was still taken up by trading and there was so much more excitement to come with the China and MtGox for the next few months.

I liked Counterparty and it was pretty much what I had envisioned myself and they have run with the technology and spent a lot of time building it out but they still didn’t address my main objections, they it’s further confirmation of the concepts.

So what were my main objections? Firstly, Bitcoin was not designed to be a carrier pigeon and although it’s possible to encode data within normal Bitcoin transactions, there are a lot of political objections to it. This matters a lot because the people who contribute to Bitcoin development can, and has already done things that restrict the use of Bitcoin for these ‘non-standard’ purposes. There are arguably ways to encode data that cannot be blocked, but the real question is, how feasible is it to build a system like this on the back of Bitcoin when you have no idea if the next release of Bitcoin will outlaw your code.

Most recently for example, when Counterparty published their papers, they committed to using OP_RETURN based on 80 byte storage only to find Bitcoin 0.9.0 prevents relaying of transactions containing more than OP_RETURN of 40 bytes! Quite a nasty surprise!

So ask yourself, “is playing cat and mouse really a viable option for a smart protocol?” Bitcoin will definitely continue to play whack-a-mole against perceived blockchain abuse. Despite all the benefits of building on an existing, well established infrastructure, it’s simply not safe to do so when that infrastructure can outlaw you at any time.

My next objection was a matter of speed. Bitcoin is terribly slow to confirm blocks. The target of 10 minutes is already too slow, and add variance and it gets a whole lot worse. And, 0-confirmation transactions are not safe as has been demonstrated (as they can be double spent). Who hasn’t found themselves waiting an hour at least once, just to get a single confirmation? That kind of latency makes it pretty useless if you wanted to run a decentralized exchange on top of the protocol.

It was clear as day to me from the beginning, that any such endeavour requires a separate blockchain that was not only faster, but friendly to the data embedding methodology. Namecoin chose this path for example to build out a decentralised domain registration system. But unfortunately, it seems some people have an almost religious conviction that they must use the Bitcoin blockchain come what may.

When I saw the whole OP_RETURN debacle unfold I promised myself I would wait and watch to see what happened and if anyone would do the right thing or let their inflexibility hold them back. I waited, and since no-one filled the void, I decided I would take the plunge.

So here we are, Viacoin is my solution: it’s a currency and store of value in it’s own right (symbol VIA); and has fast blockchain, 25 times faster than Bitcoin and further speedups may be possible in the future by changing how the network synchronizes blocks. There are some interesting research paper on the matter.

The Viacoin blockchain is completely supportive of OP_RETURN data storage and will remain so. Since there is a already tried protocol, I have shelved mine and we will use Counterparty as our starting point for ClearingHouse. I believe this is the best way forward because we know it works already and will be very easy to get up and running. ClearingHouse will have it’s own internal currency, called XCH.

So the roadmap looks something like this:

Bootstrap Viacoin distribution by presale.
Launch the Viacoin network.
Build out viacoin services.
Launch ClearingHouse using proof based VIA to XCH conversion process.
Build out services
In summary, Viacoin and ClearingHouse have been a long time in the coming. I would like to have been first because, well that would have been a lot cooler. However, the fact other projects came along with similar concepts tells me it was a good idea. All ideas are incremental, so it’s not a matter “who thought of it first” because in the end, good technology and usable systems is what matters. I would particularly like to thank Namecoin developers who really started the ball rolling for alternative uses for blockchain storage, and to J.R. Willett and PhantomPhreak who really got the world thinking about the next steps after bitcoin.

ClearingHouse can go a lot further, to develop protocols for decentralized voting, identity and reputation management, setup and exchange of multisignature escrow, “blockchain notary” and a whole host of other applications.

As with all new things, this could all go wrong, but believe we are in a much better place than if we had been the pioneers because we know it’s possible, it’s just more a matter of the implementation details. Viacoin presale distribution has been designed to give an early adopter advantage similar to that of Bitcoin, with equal risk of failure. Ultimately the market will decide, but I think there has never been a more exciting time to be in crypto, than now.
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1525  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [VIA] ★ Viacoin ★ ~ the future of digital currency ~ ★ on: July 19, 2014, 03:53:45 PM
Viacoin(VIA) is added to Bter.com 's market at

https://bter.com/trade/via_btc

Deposit and get 1% bonus at

https://bter.com/myaccount/deposit/VIA

Bter is the biggest Chinese altcoin exchange platform!

great!
1526  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CNL] ConcealCoin | No Premine | 24 hours POW! LAUNCHED! on: July 19, 2014, 02:40:27 PM
http://cln.v2.dedicatedpool.com/


Pool down???
1527  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ****EUROPACOIN l ANNOUNCEMENT**** [ANN] on: July 19, 2014, 02:27:18 PM
Huh

mistake...
1528  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [VIA] ★ Viacoin ★ ~ the future of digital currency ~ ★ on: July 19, 2014, 10:56:24 AM
We need Mintpal/Cryptsy! Please add.

Amusing fact: Viacoin's 24h volume (855BTC) is more than Mintpal exchanges entire 24h volume (623BTC).

<3

Cryptsy and Mintpal.
1529  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [VIA] ★ Viacoin ★ ~ the future of digital currency ~ ★ on: July 19, 2014, 10:55:30 AM
http://support.bter.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

Ask biggest Chinese altcoin exchange platform bter list viacoin!

send them request guys.


1530  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]ZeroCoin[ZERO] - first sha256/scrypt/x11 PoW/PoS coin with zerocash support on: July 19, 2014, 09:38:38 AM
This is not the real zerocoin project?
1531  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [VIA] ★ Viacoin ★ ~ the future of digital currency ~ ★ on: July 19, 2014, 08:40:14 AM
Coindesk article:


http://www.coindesk.com/things-alt-mintpal-fallout-viacoins-big-haul-altcoin-kids/


Viacoin presale raises 610 BTC

Viacoin

A new altcoin project attracted more than 600 BTC in a pre-sale prior to the launch of the block chain.

The eight-day presale of viacoin brought in just over 610 BTC, an amount worth more than $380,000. The round consisted of both large and small investors, as shown by a presale distribution list provided on the alt’s official Bitcoin Talk forum post. Notably, the document shows that one investor purchased 75 BTC worth of the alt.

Viacoin is being developed in conjunction with another initiative called ClearingHouse, a decentralized protocol that will be built using Counterparty as a basis for development. Developer BTCDrak said on the official viacoin blog that services for viacoin will be the focus until ClearingHouse is released, which will also include its own internal currency.

BTCDrak told CoinDesk that he was surprised by the outcome, saying that he hoped to generate about 150 BTC during the presale. However, he cited enthusiasm from multiple sectors of the crypto community – as well as the body of investors who work in altcoins – as key to the successful presale.

He added:

“It’s pretty surreal.”
1532  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]ZeroCoin[ZERO] - first sha256/scrypt/x11 PoW/PoS coin with zerocash support on: July 19, 2014, 04:32:58 AM
nice.
1533  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [VIA] ★ Viacoin ★ ~ the future of digital currency ~ ★ on: July 19, 2014, 01:04:40 AM
could any please help, Im having trouble sending my coins from my electrum wallet....

I keep getting a error message "exceptions must be old-style classes or derived from BaseException, not NoneType"

tried both on windows and linux computers but same issue



This is a quick article to cover how to import private keys from a paper wallet and also cover some issues people have been experiencing with Vialectrum wallet, which is unfortunately still a little bit buggy. This article will cover a couple of scenarios: can’t open Vialectrum, forgotten password, and can’t send viacoins.

Viaclectum’s initial purpose was to be a safe way to generate your initial deposit address in a safer way, backed up with a 12 word seed phrase.

For the time being we recommend exporting your private keys to the main Viacoin-Qt client.

Exporting Private Keys
This is the process for exporting your private key from Vialectrum

Here’s how:

Open Vialectrum (if you can’t, this is covered later)
Right click on the address, or addresses that contain a viacoin balance
Click ‘private key’. This is a 50 or so digit number string beginning with 7
Import Private Key to Viacoin-Qt
Open Viacoin-Qt
Click on then Help menu, then Debug
Open the “Console” tab.
Type in the following command importprivkey 7yourprivatekeygoeshere
After a few short moments, Viacoin-Qt will rescan the address and your balance will be imported.
Please note that Vialectrum uses change addresses. So if you made any payments in Vialectrum, your balance might be spreads out across a few addresses, so check all addresses and repeat the process.

Import Paper Wallet
To import your private key from a paper wallet, please just open Viacoin-Qt as above and follow the instructions to enter import the private key.

Forgotten Vialectrum Password
Don’t panic as you can recreate the wallet using the 12 word seed you were asked to write down.

Open Vialectrum
From the File menu select New/Restore
Enter a new filename like wallet2
Enter your 12 word seed
This will recreate the wallet. You should then proceed to export the keys with a balance to Viacoin-Qt as above.


http://blog.viacoin.org/2014/07/18/wallet-woes.html
1534  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [VIA] ★ Viacoin ★ ~ the future of digital currency ~ ★ on: July 18, 2014, 11:17:03 PM
Welcome to ...
VIACOIN 1GH POOL



--> via.1gh.com <--

(We already found five blocks  Wink )


Nice pool!
1535  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] Syscoin - Business on the Blockchain on: July 18, 2014, 11:13:25 PM
Quote
PRESALE LAUNCH DATE: JULY 19th @ 12:00PM PST

Could the pre-sale start time be clarified?
Are we talking 12:00 Noon or 12:00 Midnight?

Good point. To clarify.

Pacific Daylight Time : 12:00 PM (12:00)
GMT (UTC) : 7:00 PM (19:00)

Hope this helps.


better make a countdown?
1536  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CNL] ConcealCoin | No Premine | 24 hours POW! LAUNCHED! on: July 18, 2014, 10:15:09 PM
 Smiley
1537  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [VIA] ★ Viacoin ★ ~ the future of digital currency ~ ★ on: July 18, 2014, 10:07:54 PM
This may be a stupid question but how does http://via.oominoo.com/ work?

I added the config as on the site and i am mining but where do I see the coins? Do they go straight to the wallet after some time?

I was trying to mine on minep.it but it won't send the password reset mail.


mining has 0 reward now.

we should wait for block number reach 10000 Block.
1538  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BPC] BitpopCoin | X11 PoS 7% | Hero Member Dev | No IPO/Premine | Ninja Launch on: July 18, 2014, 10:06:35 PM
dev, any plan and new features for this stable and promising coin?

1539  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BPC] BitpopCoin | X11 PoS 7% | Hero Member Dev | No IPO/Premine | Ninja Launch on: July 18, 2014, 10:05:35 PM

Thanks, we now need some bittrex action to get this coin moving!

we should twitter bittrex and join their irc channel also ask them through emails?


1540  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [VIA] ★ Viacoin ★ ~ the future of digital currency ~ ★ on: July 18, 2014, 10:01:35 PM
Welcome to join Via Chinese community QQ group: 310675142 

Promoting viacoin in china and also ask Chinese exchange platform add viacoin.
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