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161  Other / Meta / Re: How trust system works ? on: October 07, 2014, 06:08:01 PM
You disagree with what exactly (not that it really matters at this point)?

I don't think it was untrustworthy. not when i offered to wait months until the coin is sent. i fucked up, i know it. i just want to be trusted damn fuck leave me alone
162  Other / Meta / Re: cooldgamer abuse of the trust system on: October 07, 2014, 05:57:40 PM
faggot
Yep, that's totally the way to ask me to remove it.

You were 'buying' BTC for $5 and said you would wait til the chargeback period was over.  You clearly didn't care too much about the coins, but you really wanted that trust from somebody high ranking.  Rep loans can get you negged here, this really isn't any different

you could have confronted me, instead of going behind my back and negging my profile. how am i supposed to know, what is acceptable and what not. christ

Some may argue you were trying to abuse the system by attempting to essentially buy trust. You'll have to work it out with him, but I don't think he did anything wrong here, especially when you were quite open in what you were attempting to do.

i simply stated that i wanted to establish myself as trustworthy, and request to receive positive trust after completion of a trade. how does that warrant a negative trust. this is bullcrap

Can you not see how trying to buy trust to make yourself appear 'trustworthy' makes you the exact opposite?

i'm not trying to make myself appear as anything you fucking retard, i'm trying to prove my trustworthiness by completing a trade!

You are managing to appear to be someone who cares only about yourself and who will fight with those who trade with you if they do not do exactly what you want.  How does that make people want to deal with you?

i want to trade with reputable members only so i don't get scammed! i would have removed my stipulation about the trust if someone told me that that wasn't allowed. how the fuck am i to know? i don't read minds.

Hero member or other reputable member only. must have positive trust. After the chargeback window is closed on paypal, or whenever you are ready, you are to send me the btc. I am accepting the risk that you will not send the btc as recorded in your agreement. if you break the agreement or if i break the agreement, negative trust will be left for the breaker of the agreement. after transaction is complete and both users are sure that the deal was successful, positive feedback is to be exchanged with this thread as reference.

I was thinking of finding reputable hero members and asking them to do trades with me. i would send first, proving i am trustworthy. Really i just want it for bragging rights. My friends at work will be jealous of my green trust rating


Attempting to buy Trust won't get you much of anywhere and it may even cause your Trust to go the other way.
Bragging rights, really?


You were warned. When one finds himself in a deep hole, the first thing to do is stop digging. I believe this applies here.





I wasn't trying to buy trust . jesus get it through your head

What is the big sin here? i simply stipulated the terms of my agreement. I fail to see why this is such a controversial an issue? People make trades and leave feedback all the time. Why am i not allowed to stipulate that in a deal?
Because you were trading to make your trust go up, not do regular trades and have your trust go up by effect like the system is for.  One means you're legitimate, one means the exact opposite.
I disagree, but i guess that i have no choice but fall in line, with all of you web bullies forcing my hand. What can i do from here? How do i get the negative trusts removed and start over? is it possible to get a second chance
163  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: I was just scammed on: October 07, 2014, 05:54:23 PM
OP you got scammed by someone posing as Michail1...not the real Michail1. Learn from this and do not let it happen again. I can assure you Michail1 does not hide his identity and would never scam...

Sorry for you loss  Embarrassed

I often trade here and OTC...look at what happens ->  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=335426 (a fake me trying to scam one of my auctions)

Scammers here are shameless....they make names all the time that are similar to scam.

yep. how did he not notice the backtick in the username? i think there is more to this story than the OP claims. it may be a reverse type of scam where the OP is attempting to get money out of the real Michail
164  Other / Meta / Re: cooldgamer abuse of the trust system on: October 07, 2014, 05:52:42 PM
faggot
Yep, that's totally the way to ask me to remove it.

You were 'buying' BTC for $5 and said you would wait til the chargeback period was over.  You clearly didn't care too much about the coins, but you really wanted that trust from somebody high ranking.  Rep loans can get you negged here, this really isn't any different

you could have confronted me, instead of going behind my back and negging my profile. how am i supposed to know, what is acceptable and what not. christ

Some may argue you were trying to abuse the system by attempting to essentially buy trust. You'll have to work it out with him, but I don't think he did anything wrong here, especially when you were quite open in what you were attempting to do.

i simply stated that i wanted to establish myself as trustworthy, and request to receive positive trust after completion of a trade. how does that warrant a negative trust. this is bullcrap

Can you not see how trying to buy trust to make yourself appear 'trustworthy' makes you the exact opposite?

i'm not trying to make myself appear as anything you fucking retard, i'm trying to prove my trustworthiness by completing a trade!

You are managing to appear to be someone who cares only about yourself and who will fight with those who trade with you if they do not do exactly what you want.  How does that make people want to deal with you?

i want to trade with reputable members only so i don't get scammed! i would have removed my stipulation about the trust if someone told me that that wasn't allowed. how the fuck am i to know? i don't read minds.

Hero member or other reputable member only. must have positive trust. After the chargeback window is closed on paypal, or whenever you are ready, you are to send me the btc. I am accepting the risk that you will not send the btc as recorded in your agreement. if you break the agreement or if i break the agreement, negative trust will be left for the breaker of the agreement. after transaction is complete and both users are sure that the deal was successful, positive feedback is to be exchanged with this thread as reference.

I was thinking of finding reputable hero members and asking them to do trades with me. i would send first, proving i am trustworthy. Really i just want it for bragging rights. My friends at work will be jealous of my green trust rating


Attempting to buy Trust won't get you much of anywhere and it may even cause your Trust to go the other way.
Bragging rights, really?


You were warned. When one finds himself in a deep hole, the first thing to do is stop digging. I believe this applies here.





I wasn't trying to buy trust . jesus get it through your head

What is the big sin here? i simply stipulated the terms of my agreement. I fail to see why this is such a controversial an issue? People make trades and leave feedback all the time. Why am i not allowed to stipulate that in a deal?
165  Other / Meta / Re: cooldgamer abuse of the trust system on: October 07, 2014, 05:50:51 PM
I wasn't trying to buy trust . jesus get it through your head

So you don't want to be trusted at all?  Because who is going to trust an angry guy with a chip on his shoulder who yells at everybody and can't control himself?

Yeah i wanted to be trusted. thats kinda what this whole thing is about. I am angry because i'm under attack for what i perceive to be minor. Now my reputation contains negative feedbacks, i am ruined.
166  Other / Meta / Re: How trust system works ? on: October 07, 2014, 05:47:50 PM

Yeah, the logic is simple and flawed. i did nothing wrong, and thats all there is to it. i stated my intentions transparently. Judas of Iscariot ass nigga.

Lol. Where is my thirty pieces of silver? You doing nothing wrong is arguable. What you did wrong has been established: you tried to cheaply buy feedback to bolster your rep and some people see this behaviour as making you untrustworthy and warranting a warning via the feedback system. You must realise what you did wrong because it's in your own logic. You wanted that feedback to appear trustworthy, but any feedback you may have received this way wouldn't have made you trustworthy at all because of the very fact that you just bought it for $5 so people were warning others of that because they see it as unscrupulous or untrustworthy behaviour.

I disagree.
167  Economy / Services / Re: Get your own site up and running as cheap as .05 BTC on: October 07, 2014, 05:45:39 PM
thats not a good deal in my opinion. chunkhost offer a very good vps for 5 dollars a month.
my offer non VPS and payment annually not monthly,thank you

16 bucks a year? hmm, that is pretty cheap
168  Other / Meta / Re: I demand that cooldgamer be forced to remove fraudulent negative trust on: October 07, 2014, 05:44:45 PM
I asked to receive a positive trust after completing a trade, better call NSA and tell them i'm planning a terrorist bombing while you're at it
169  Other / Meta / Re: cooldgamer abuse of the trust system on: October 07, 2014, 05:41:38 PM
You can't, that's why you shouldn't use it and pretty much everyone gets treated with suspicion when they do because of the chargeback issue. I'd forget about trying to use PayPal all together here.

why didn't you tell me that in the first place. fuck
170  Other / Meta / Re: cooldgamer abuse of the trust system on: October 07, 2014, 05:41:11 PM
i want to trade with reputable members only so i don't get scammed!

When I don't want to be scammed (i.e. always) I trade with any member, reputable or not, but use a trustless escrow (e.g. bitescrow.org). Trading with a reputable member means nothing, as reputation doesn't guarantee that I won't be scammed.

how can i do escrow with paypal?
You can't, it can be charged back for months.

I was thinking of finding reputable hero members and asking them to do trades with me. i would send first, proving i am trustworthy. Really i just want it for bragging rights. My friends at work will be jealous of my green trust rating
You made it pretty clear you were trying to artificially inflate your trust, it backfired.  gg

no i didn't you never confronted me or asked me what my intentions were, you acted on your own accord without knowledge. what does "gg" mean. is that some type of insult?
171  Other / Meta / Re: cooldgamer abuse of the trust system on: October 07, 2014, 05:39:56 PM
faggot
Yep, that's totally the way to ask me to remove it.

You were 'buying' BTC for $5 and said you would wait til the chargeback period was over.  You clearly didn't care too much about the coins, but you really wanted that trust from somebody high ranking.  Rep loans can get you negged here, this really isn't any different

you could have confronted me, instead of going behind my back and negging my profile. how am i supposed to know, what is acceptable and what not. christ

Some may argue you were trying to abuse the system by attempting to essentially buy trust. You'll have to work it out with him, but I don't think he did anything wrong here, especially when you were quite open in what you were attempting to do.

i simply stated that i wanted to establish myself as trustworthy, and request to receive positive trust after completion of a trade. how does that warrant a negative trust. this is bullcrap

Can you not see how trying to buy trust to make yourself appear 'trustworthy' makes you the exact opposite?

i'm not trying to make myself appear as anything you fucking retard, i'm trying to prove my trustworthiness by completing a trade!

You are managing to appear to be someone who cares only about yourself and who will fight with those who trade with you if they do not do exactly what you want.  How does that make people want to deal with you?

i want to trade with reputable members only so i don't get scammed! i would have removed my stipulation about the trust if someone told me that that wasn't allowed. how the fuck am i to know? i don't read minds.

Hero member or other reputable member only. must have positive trust. After the chargeback window is closed on paypal, or whenever you are ready, you are to send me the btc. I am accepting the risk that you will not send the btc as recorded in your agreement. if you break the agreement or if i break the agreement, negative trust will be left for the breaker of the agreement. after transaction is complete and both users are sure that the deal was successful, positive feedback is to be exchanged with this thread as reference.

I was thinking of finding reputable hero members and asking them to do trades with me. i would send first, proving i am trustworthy. Really i just want it for bragging rights. My friends at work will be jealous of my green trust rating


Attempting to buy Trust won't get you much of anywhere and it may even cause your Trust to go the other way.
Bragging rights, really?


You were warned. When one finds himself in a deep hole, the first thing to do is stop digging. I believe this applies here.





I wasn't trying to buy trust . jesus get it through your head
172  Other / Meta / Re: cooldgamer abuse of the trust system on: October 07, 2014, 05:25:35 PM
i want to trade with reputable members only so i don't get scammed!

When I don't want to be scammed (i.e. always) I trade with any member, reputable or not, but use a trustless escrow (e.g. bitescrow.org). Trading with a reputable member means nothing, as reputation doesn't guarantee that I won't be scammed.

how can i do escrow with paypal?
173  Economy / Services / Re: Get your own site up and running as cheap as .05 BTC on: October 07, 2014, 05:25:02 PM
thats not a good deal in my opinion. chunkhost offer a very good vps for 5 dollars a month.
174  Other / Meta / Re: I demand that cooldgamer be forced to remove fraudulent negative trust on: October 07, 2014, 05:23:13 PM
h4xx0r
Warning: Trade with extreme caution!

h4xx0r is trading $5 to gain positive trust

you deserved that warning message, scammer alert  Wink

not true. i seek to establish a reputation as being trustworthy. it turns out, you can be to honest here. fucking faggots and their cracked logic.

And you do this by being trustworthy and earning reputation over time. Why do you think someone would think you were reputable when they click on your feedback and see the only feedback you have is for doing a couple of $5 PayPal trades? Anyone with an ounce of common sense would see this for what it was and it certainly doesn't make you trustable or a man of his word. I often see people with a few green trusted feedback then look at their feedback and see it's for stuff that doesn't make them trustworthy at all so having feedback doesnt mean you are trustworthy, especially when scammers with half a brain will try get feedback as fast and as cheaply as they can for the same reasons: to appear trustworthy, so that's why this is wrong on so many levels and you quite rightly got called out for it regardless of how honest your intentions were.

they could have said it to my face or in my thread instead of going behind my back. that is why im mad
175  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: WTB 0.20 BTC with Paypal on: October 07, 2014, 05:19:50 PM
I want to buy 0.20 BTC with Paypal at bitstamp price +3%

I sent with family or friends option! i need a honest member for send first

with paypal it is fairest that you would send first. Paypal can be charged back, so you are asking the buyer to assume all the risk which isn't fair. the buyer can't chargeback the btc, but you can chargeback the paypal. therefore, you should send first.
176  Other / Meta / Re: cooldgamer abuse of the trust system on: October 07, 2014, 05:18:31 PM
Some may argue you were trying to abuse the system by attempting to essentially buy trust. You'll have to work it out with him, but I don't think he did anything wrong here, especially when you were quite open in what you were attempting to do.

i simply stated that i wanted to establish myself as trustworthy, and request to receive positive trust after completion of a trade. how does that warrant a negative trust. this is bullcrap

Can you not see how trying to buy trust to make yourself appear 'trustworthy' makes you the exact opposite?

i'm not trying to make myself appear as anything you fucking retard, i'm trying to prove my trustworthiness by completing a trade!

You are managing to appear to be someone who cares only about yourself and who will fight with those who trade with you if they do not do exactly what you want.  How does that make people want to deal with you?

i want to trade with reputable members only so i don't get scammed! i would have removed my stipulation about the trust if someone told me that that wasn't allowed. how the fuck am i to know? i don't read minds.
177  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Is cryptsy the only legitimate altcoin exchange? on: October 07, 2014, 05:16:57 PM
I cant believe anyone has said it. Cryptsy has the worst UI of all the exchanges. It really kills me everytime I've got to do some trading there. Also, they are too slow to add coins.

I suspect all this recent posts about cryptsy is part of a marketing campaign. Makes no sense otherwise as its far from being a relevant exchange anymore. Too much parties in latina america guys! I think you're preparing a gigantic operation which started with colluding with BCX  and orchestrating a fake attack to get cheap Monero in order to get a share of its market.

So silly when you think you could have had it from the beginning if only you had done the work of adding it after poloniex made 1000 btcs in volume the opening day.

As you seem to always go for the wrong move, here's some help: dont wait for xmr to go from #2 to #1 in the voting list, add it right away. And add a fiat market! Its the only way you can gain marketshare. Oh, also, get a marketmaker.

Stop being stupid cryptsy.

Your right with certain coins we are slower to adopt especially when they are new code and untested concepts. We held back on XMR because were doing the coding to add a different coin and market, that and the previous stated security concerns. You will see the announcement later today.

I would say Monero is likely next after the current integration.

Security is more a priority to us than being first to market. We think our customers appreciate that aspect.



As a customer, i can say i do appreciate that. People who only want to dump their coins as soon as possible on your market are the ones who complain.
178  Other / Meta / Re: I demand that cooldgamer be forced to remove fraudulent negative trust on: October 07, 2014, 05:15:48 PM
h4xx0r
Warning: Trade with extreme caution!

h4xx0r is trading $5 to gain positive trust

you deserved that warning message, scammer alert  Wink

not true. i seek to establish a reputation as being trustworthy. it turns out, you can be to honest here. fucking faggots and their cracked logic.

Right now you are establishing a reputation as an emotional basketcase.  Pull yourself together, man!

You would be mad if some faggots were negging your profile instead of confronting you like a man, no? you wouldn't care. what if you woke up to see a bunch of negs on your profile for no reason
179  Other / Meta / Re: How trust system works ? on: October 07, 2014, 05:12:42 PM
once again you are wrong. i sought to make a trade to prove myself trustworthy, not to buy trust. you are just twisting my words to fit your agenda.

Dude, seriously, how are you not getting this? I'm not twisting your words because you stated exactly why you wanted the feedback for several times. How the hell does making a $5 trade make you trustworthy? It doesn't. It means you traded $5. You specifically wanted to trade with trusted hero members and nobody else, thus you wanted 'green' reputable feedback for your five dollars aka you were trying to buy feedback and trust quickly and at minimal cost.

i wanted trusted hero members because they are the most reputable, and it limits my risk of being scammed. actually, i wanted the btc legitimately too, but for fucks sakes, whatever you say. i'm done arguing. you fucking win, ok?

But you're still not getting it. This isn't about winning an argument but making you see where you went wrong and why having feedback doesn't make you reputable or trustworthy. Doing deals with reputable members merely for their trust does not make you reputable or trustworthy, especially when this is all you wanted their feedback for. If you had've got a few green trust from Hero members would that then make you more reputable or trustworthy than me for example (who currently has zero 'green' feedback)? No. If I went and got 5 green trust feedbacks right now from five different members for buying $1 worth of PayPal would that make me very trustable? No. The argument and logic here is simple regardless of whether you are a genuine person or not, you just went about getting feedback the very wrong way and it backfired.

Yeah, the logic is simple and flawed. i did nothing wrong, and thats all there is to it. i stated my intentions transparently. Judas of Iscariot ass nigga
180  Other / Meta / Re: I demand that cooldgamer be forced to remove fraudulent negative trust on: October 07, 2014, 04:52:39 PM
Well I'm just suggesting to you, you may/may not have that removed if you leave trust out of the equation for this trade. It really does seem as if you want to buy trust.

I want to trade with reputed hero members to establish a relationship that i am a man of my word. it would be nice to have a positive trust, i can't lie. i am not trying to get into the default trust, i just want to have a +1 for doing a legitimate trade. how does that make me a scammer. People are just projecting their angst over being scammed onto me because i said i sought a positive trust.
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