There is plenty of progress. Fastest blockchain on decentralised platform. Loads of ICO's, partnerships. Restructured governance. Decentralised exchange that has the speed, security and GUI to compete with centralised exchanges. Big marketing push hasn't even started yet. It will, likely coincide with DEX Wallet GUI 1.0 that is imminent. Soon after, smart contracts etc.

Plenty of people who remember when ETH was <$20 will weep when they realise they could have bought into Waves and have missed another rocket.

Well, I do think that, at some point, possibly this year, the cost of POW will become a mainstream 'scandal' story - this would really help pure POS chains and POW that does something useful. Not a huge fan of ripple but they did support things like protein folding research in exchange for XRP back in the day.

Fastest decentralised, distributed blockchain in the world and smart contracts with a DEX wallet that easily competes with centralised exchanges - What do you think?!! 

OK, So it came through. It took 7 days (5 business) - not too bad.

Maybe CEX.IO should give indication of average times for various forms of withdrawals - it would add to confidence.

Anyway - I would feel happy recommending CEX.IO on the basis of my experience.

I made a withdrawal (not a particularly big one) from GBP on CEX.IO to my UK GBP bank account.
One would think this would not take long once the withdrawal was marked as completed on CEX.IO.
However, I'm still waiting. I made a withdrawal on Coinfloor after this for a similar amount and it is already in bank.

I made a ticket but just got a vanilla response;

Really, once a GBP withdrawal is marked as completed from a UK exchange to a UK bank in GBP - it should be quick?

I expect poor old JB is spinning in his grave. RIP. 

OceanLab is on Tidex

https://tidex.com/exchange/ocl/btc

As is Riptobux

Hell! There are loads of Waves tokens on exchanges if you bother to look! 

Silicon Valley is all about monopolization, centralized control and rent seeking.

I guess they see the distributed model of blockchain technology as irrelevant to their activities. If they use it - it will be closed and controlled.

It's a brand new site replacing the old site. More content is being added. I am sure Deloitte, Gazprombank and Burger King know where to find them!


They are renowned for their support. They even got funds back quickly when people made crazy mistakes like 10000 Waves fee on a transaction etc. They can do this because Waves community is so great!


No it's not normal. But then I don't consider Waves Platform or team to be dysfunctional. The testing is rigorous and diligent, they are working hard to formulate legal compliance and regulation (The worlds first fully legal compliant ICO launched in Canada on Waves recently). For example - the smart contracts will NOT be Turing complete. The Waves platform does not want to see episodes like the $150 million DAO fiasco on its watch. However, I think you will find that Waves is NOT competing with Ethereum.

It's certainly not Britains first crypto - memory may be failing but feathercoin, piggy, gamecredits, britcoin etc etc

How do they intend to make phone mining sensible or worthwhile? Miner will get cracked and will be done by botfarms making mining for phone users a nonsense. This happened over and over starting with quark and on to the cryptonotes.

WavesNG due for release on 10/10 is scaled for mass fast transactions.

I don't think any distributed blockchain based coin can currently (or in the near/medium term) compete with EMV as far as transactions per second are concerned. More likely this will be done by using seamless and transparent (for the user) gateways to one or more centralized payment provider.

Frankly, I am amazed they don't already accept Bitcoin payments. I assumed they did. I expect AmazonPay has something to do with it.

Excellent read! This is much better than I expected at this time.

PCI compliance will be a game changer for credibility and traction in this sector.

The way the team is using it's resources also shows great business acumen - something sadly lacking in many projects no matter how great the geeks are! 

The reason for the scams - biggest of which was The DAO - was the way ETH implemented Smart Contracts. Waves is implementing a non Turing complete model. They compliment one another - not compete with each other.

ETH is getting interest from Fintech etc who have the resources to exercise high diligence when using the platform for core tasks. My guess is that many disrupting projects, from both old and new players, will use both platforms for different purposes within the same product.

Oh! And token creation is currently 1W - or >$4. I suspect this will look really cheap in the short to medium term.

Waves runs on a JVM but it is written in Go. Anyhow, there is no Waves VS Eth - they are completely different types of platform pitching for very different space in the crypto platform field.
Smart contracts are coming on the Waves platform but, unlike Eth dApps, they are not 100% Turing complete - they are not competing and are aiming at different sectors who have different requirements. In my view Eth and Waves will be the two dominant platforms in the medium term.

This time in crypto reminds me of the web days in the nineties. We had WAIS/Gopher in early nineties that remind me of things like Paypal. Then we had HTTP/HTML Mosaic which, I guess, is akin to the rise of Bitcoin - open source, distributed. Like Bitcoin it was ubiquitously used by geeks but was largely unknown and unused by the general population. By the start of the mid nineties they all had heard of 'The Web' largely through stories in the press about porn and criminality.

Eventually, by mid nineties, we had platforms like navigator, opera, explorer which allowed interaction and scripting - these remind me of platforms like Etherium, Waves, Ardor, Lisk - however the real massive growth and disruption were the things running on those web platforms - like Yahoo, Amazon, Alta Vista.

Sasha Ivanov, of Waves, alluded to this in the context of cryptos when he said "We’re starting a new cryptocurrency and we don’t want it to be used as currency."

However, back in the nineties, people who invested in Intel, Dell, Netscape or Microsoft didn't get stupidly rich like the people who privately invested in Amazon or Google but they didn't do badly either.

So, my advice would be, pick good platforms like Eth or Waves but also look closely at what people are going to be doing on these platforms in future. It really does remind me of the mid nineties days of the Web - the negative mainstream press, governments panicking about legislation/regulation and the steady uptick of major players entering - like financial institutions with Eth and Waves and even Burger King! I feel we are on the cusp.

I cannot see how it could be. It's a cryptonote so people will point their Ryzen 16 cores at it and inevitably your poor old phone will be as effective a miner as a Dutchman trying to scoop out a flooded dyke with a teaspoon. Plus you are tethered to wifi unless you have unlimited mobile data.

Still, it's UK project, and I wish it well - I just hope they have other and better USP than 'mobile mining' - A cracking good Android wallet would be a great start. I think Monero have third party Freewallet and possibly, soon coinomi. I don't think any other cryptonotes have Android wallets - so a lightweight, low bandwidth mobile wallet would be a good selling point.

I agree that one has to be extra careful when investing in ICOs - research is key!

However there is a lot of hypocrisy from the elites with vested interests.
We all witnessed the blatant market manipulation recently carried out by Jamie Dimon with the help of the mainstream media. The Swedes are even making threatening noises towards JP Morgan - although we all know nothing will come of it.

https://news.bitcoin.com/jamie-dimons-bitcoin-statements-reported-as-market-abuse-in-sweden/

Personally, I think it is good that China have put on the brakes. Many other regions are looking at ways of regulating the ICO area. Meanwhile we have platforms like Waves that are actively working with the authorities to suggest ways of regulating - be it self regulation or legal frameworks with help from organisations like Deloitte.

However, as I said above, with or without regulation - Do your research! 

That's what I heard. If anything, Russia is pressing ahead with a legal framework for crypto and ICO's which is a good thing. Moscow Stock Exchange and Gazprom bank recently partnered with Waves Platform which is a major ICO platform among other things.

The worlds first fully regulated ICO was launched in Canada - Impak Coin.

Also, the Chinese 'news' originated from one news outlet via an unnamed source. It was enough to make Chinese Exchanges nervous, hence the market reaction. However, in all likelyhood, the Chinese will go the route of Canada and Russia and develop a robust legal framework for ICO's - or they will lose a great deal of traction moving forward.

I was into ripple when you could earn them by leasing cpu cycles for distributed computing good causes. I managed to build up quite a few (I think about 5k). However the closed nature of Ripple put me off and the shenanigans around the Ripple wallet disappearing and having to use third party wallets that came and went was the final straw. Still, I found people on xrpchat helpful and friendly.

Cashing out was a total headache - however I wish I had waited until the big pump earlier this year before I did it!