Other 350K coins are from a bug in the code(probably) and for me is not fair for the other minerd that hitted in the past days only tx fees.
I speak with not thousnd of coins but only few hundred.
I agree - That's not happening. It certainly should not. People complaining about not getting any rewards may get some donations from stakeholders in the range from 5-10 PMC maybe, but anything more would be ridiculous. This coin isn't meant to be mined for big rewards, the TX fees as rewards were established to keep the network alive, not to fill the pockets of individual miners with the biggest hashing power. You mine this coin at the risk of not getting a reward per block at all or for low numbers of coins, this is how it was planned. Keep in mind that a single coin is already a good portion of just 500k coins.
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(PMC) Distribution: PoW Algorithm: SHA256 Total coins: 500,000 ...and counting Block Reward: ...Unusual Block Time: 10 Minutes Trade Confirms: 6 blocks P2P Port: 9336 RPC Port: 9335 You haven't lost your humour, at least :p
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Please explain to me how an attacker can fork the blockchain, and from then on put a block reward on 1000 coins on every newly mined block.
I am not getting it how this is suppose to work.
The way I understand thing is :
It is our client, the software that determines the block reward, when our client creates a new block it determines the block reward from the rules within the software, it then sends this block out to the network and then the other clients verify whether that new block was created according to the rules, if not then the newly mined block will not get confirmed by the network.
I fail to see how all of the sudden my client would decide to reward a new block with 1000 coins, when the software is still the same and then how all the other clients on the network accept this new block when the 1000 coins block reward is clearly against the rules of the software.
I doubt the attacker scenario, I think it is much more likely that it is simply a bug in the software that has always been there.
If you control over 51% of the network, you can fork the chain. That wallet that forked the chain can do anything it wants - in this case, add 1000 coins to every block. It's absolutely possible and entirely plausible. You don't need to have every wallet running the malicious code. Just one. It would only take one big ASIC miner or rig to do it. I am still doubting it, do you agree that it is my client that determines the block reward from the rules within it's software ? If it is my client that decides the block reward, how on earth did it all of the sudden decide to put a 1000 coin reward on the block ? I can understand how a changed block reward gets accepted by the network as a result of a 51 % attack but I still fail to see how my client decides to generate a block with a 1000 coin block reward by itself as a result of a 51 % attack. Okay, here is the deal, explained simple: When you find a block, your wallet generates a new block (the next block to mine) by the rules of the network. The thing is, you could manipulate this very new block with some injected code and "change the rules", the rules which are stored in the very block. Now if you do this and send the new block out into the network as a normal miner, you would have created a new chain, a chain that is exactly the same to the old chain, with the only difference being your newly created block. But the other workers in the network pull your work and should naturally notice "that's not what I have on my plan here", reject the block and continue on the old chain. The problem arises when enough miners (hashing-wise) decide, that this very new block isn't in fact faulty and continue on the altered chain. If the other miners now pull new work from the network, they will pull the chain that the majority of the network uses and disregard the old chain. That's roughly what is happening. Don't pin me down on details.
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Please explain to me how an attacker can fork the blockchain, and from then on put a block reward on 1000 coins on every newly mined block.
I am not getting it how this is suppose to work.
The way I understand thing is :
It is our client, the software that determines the block reward, when our client creates a new block it determines the block reward from the rules within the software, it then sends this block out to the network and then the other clients verify whether that new block was created according to the rules, if not then the newly mined block will not get confirmed by the network.
I fail to see how all of the sudden my client would decide to reward a new block with 1000 coins, when the software is still the same and then how all the other clients on the network accept this new block when the 1000 coins block reward is clearly against the rules of the software.
I doubt the attacker scenario, I think it is much more likely that it is simply a bug in the software that has always been there.
Your logic is almost correct, just take the following into the szenario: More than 51% of all miners (measured in pure hashing power) decide that the new, malicious chain is the way to go. Tada, now that the majority mines on that new chain, the rest follows.
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I wish I understood the tech aspects better. Yep, could someone explain it for dummys? Someone with a better miner than everyone else together changed the rules of the game at will. ^ this and im 99.9% sure i know who. Oh, don't tell me that someone actually forked the chain and put blocks with a reward into it
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For everyone that decides that it is time to panic and abort all hope: 1K7i8PYixVmJxPwh6AJbvBa77a2xXGyn5V
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Apparently you can mine it now :/
Outstanding 550999.99996251 Am I just unable to understand the information from the block explorer or is something very wrong here?
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Very very interesting...
A proof of concept I can get behind...
PMC: 1D5n72iMMsH3rqo2pJKVT4Q74EzUTxQ41t
Sent you 5, welcome to the club! @Creditcoin: When may we expect the new wallet? Could you give us an estimate?
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Lol, a 15 BTC buy wall just popped up at 0.001 BTC/PMC @ Poloniex
Edit: Aaand, gone again.
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Yes I've done that too, Frozen is one of the most promising coins around.
Of all the Quark clones that launched since december, Frozen was one of the fairest, distribution-wise. But I think it lacks the transaction volume to be adapted by cryptsy, which seems to adopt only shitcoins that are good for big pumps recently.
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This is very interesting 1FLtXkQChQhxSBCsKBqAQGUTjY66pgseP1 Can i please get some. Cheers Sent you one, viva the transaction fees!
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Ok, the script is 95% finished.
Based on paying out 0.1 PMC per block, that would be a theoretical maximum of 355.7. However, this is for every block since block 9249, which is where I'm starting from, do the amount should be lower.
So the payment wil be 0.5 PMC per mined empty block, which is a theoretical maximum payout of 1779 PMC. This will be sufficient for now, as I will need to run this script again in a few days, and want to ensure I have enough PMC to cover this time.
I would be careful with the size of amounts, as we need to ensure to keep the rewards steady until the client update is out there.
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WTS 200 MTC, pm me with a reasonable offer in BTC or LTC.
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1EUvHkz4TeMQCRCTet6rfCG7N9dpB8JeeZ
how many will I receive?
I received just 10PMC how can I get more? please...I swear to be a better human in the future. I sent you 10. Send a little on to someone else (poster with greater than 0-5 post preferably) and spread the love. Other posters will prob send you some too. How can 500.000PMC will fairly distributed, when the users get so little amounts of the coin? Easy: You target this coin for a high enough number of people.
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The rewards seem pretty high for an hourly cash-out, tbh.
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1EUvHkz4TeMQCRCTet6rfCG7N9dpB8JeeZ
how many will I receive?
I received just 10PMC how can I get more? please...I swear to be a better human in the future. By giveaways, the faucet and possibly even by being rewarded for contributing to the development and spread of this coin. 10 coins of 500k is actually a good amount already.
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The point is now that coins can be just created, like the fiat currency, by not the government, but single person. This is a wrong way of going.
What are you doing in the cryptocurrency forums then? This is a huge part of the whole idea behind crypto.
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What the hell is "[PMC] Premine! - 100% Premine / 100% Distribution - Mining TX fees only"? Why this kind of sh*t gets the focus? Is there a rule getting rid of this kind of post in this forum? Bitcointalk is filled up this kind of scam?
So what we pay for buying PMC gets into the pocket of the developers. Are you guys seriously considering that this is what you are investing? They get money, because you may lose.
Ok, another logic, you are expecting more profits than what you invest. See there will be some other people just losing more money. Is that simple?
Have you even read the thread? Nobody paid a penny for these coins, they were distributed completly and were launched as an experiment, not as a motivation to make quick money. The schemes of fully mined coins that we had before were based on IPOs, which meant an investment from the user side. Nobody is asking you to like or support it, but unreasonable FUD like this won't help anyone.
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Ok, what I need to do is create an address counter, and send it like "payout x number of blocks mined". It's the only way to do it unfortunately. On the plus side, once I've written it, I'll have a hell of a lot less payouts to send out, as I'll only have to pay each miner once proportional to how many blocks they've mined. Going to go grab some food, then I'll write the function. I'll be ready to go then! You might want to store the block number up to which point payouts have been made and set it to a new value each time the script has been called, even if it just suffices for catching overflows.
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This kindof makes me sick. I have a feeling there are quite a few of those out there. WTB all your PMCs, PM ME your offers
Selling 2500 PMC, best offer via PM gets them
Selling .5% of all coins ever, 2500 PMC . Get them pre-exchange, best offer via PM gets them.
Just saying...
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