Thanks "Jet Cash" for pointing out my mistake and I will correct it. I will remove your name and also"hilariousetc" from this list and add both of you for the second list (Members who earned more than 100 Merits in addition to initial 500 Merits) of which I'm hoping to add when I'm back in laptop.

I don't think at least 10 Merits (earned) would be a good criteria. It's better to take at least 100 earned Merits as a threshold value. However I have scraped users earned more than 100 Merits in addition to initial 1000 Merits, from Merit dashboard created by DdmrDdmr. All the users below mentioned were already Legendary Members before the introduction of Merit system.  I'm hoping you can reunion with your old friends

You just plagarised my idea( just kidding  ). However that's what I thought too. It's useless to clicking and going for separate page for just look at the trust score.

Agreed and that's what I also explaining from the beginning of this thread. Why we clouded our judgements(when giving away Merits, when replying a thread) with the trust score of a member. (But not discussions where trust matters)

We need to shedding away our imotional or initial judgements when we see the red trust of a member and be try to appreciate where it should.

Hey OP, I think it's not needed ;imode or ;wap2  but the reponsive forum. I am waiting to see responsive web design to be added in new forum update and need some rest for my two thumbs

List of Members were updated from the latest data available 24^th August 2018

Sr. Members added - 01
Full Members added - 01
Members added - 03
Jr. Members added - 01

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Members Ranked up last week

3 Members ranked up to Full Member
5 Jr. Members ranked up to Member

I think you misunderstood what I'm explaining and I missed a comma when separating a long sentence. Now it is corrected and I'm not talking about the removal of DT member, but the red trust gave by that DT member for the particular user who not found guilty after an investigation.

I think you didn't read my first post and read the bolded part


I think you choose the decontextualized way of debating. We all know what "theymos" said about the trust system. I am talking about when giving away your merits, we don't need to consider the red trust of that user.

I am also against the Merit abuse scenario and I also created a thread, even several posts regarding this matter. But later I realized since Merit is not moderated by the forum and we have to accept the bitter reality whether we liked or not.

How you missed the bolded parts in my reply

I also agreed with the OP. Some of the Self -moderated thread authors tends to delete ( I have seen that, but now I couldn't find an example) some of the replies even though they are not violated any of the forum or local rules. Those deleted posts are posted by users who not agreeing with the OP's statements or suggestions. That dilutes the discussion and sometimes readers will assuming all members are agreeing or supporters of his idea. As a reader, we want to hear from both parties (supporters and opposition parties). I think giving authority to starting a self-moderated thread should not be mean that the authours having full permission to delete whatever h/she thinks is the right one or not for ongoing conversation. Giving the reason for post deletion would make more transparent and also that's what I think the ethically right way to manage self-moderated threads.  

However, then someone can ask why we are giving away reasons for spammers or rule breakers. Since we need to cover all the aspects and cannot categorise posts what should be giving reasons or not. So giving explanations for all would be fair and that's the practical way to do it.

I think that's not what Helena asked. She asked about what would be happened for a member previously red tagged by a DT member(Members who handpicked by theymos) who lost their credibility even after that member red tagged. Not about the trust rating put by untrusted users which we don't consider normally.

That's not the way trust system works here and I am hoping that "nc50lc" would clear your doubts. Now you can ask me "DT members are also humans and cant they emotionally biased when giving away red trust for a member?" The answer is, it can happen sometimes and we can be giving away evidences for other DT members by explaining that DT member put me red trust without any solid proof or valid reason. If those reasons are valid and if that DT member found guilty about putting red trust on a member, I think that DT member will be removed from that network.
  
Actually, you're making a good point here and I'm thinking red trust given by particular DT member, should be removed (Not other members given) if that DT member lost their credibility.

I only give you an example user (mdayonliner is an exceptional user for this forum) for that matter and the decision is yours.

This is what theymos said about giving away your Merits (theymos didn't say anything about trust )

Why people need to click profile to look their trust rating? How about implement a system that showing trust score when mouse hover over the user name, instead of clicking it. I want to know can we implement this feature in new forum software.

While I'm agreeing with your statement, I am seeing  another view regarding that issue. Because I'm not taking any consideration of the trust score when I reading posts, member suggestions, answers for questions(but not in trading discussions). So isn't that mean we are pre assuming, if we allowed to show trust rating in every boards people will judge their decisions by blindly looking only at the trust rating? No I'm not that catagory and I don't care that members trust rating when I'm reading, if he/she adding value to the ongoing discussion.

I think you have a point regarding 1^st and 3^rd clusters but not with the 2^nd cluster. 2^nd cluster proves nothing (at least for me) and it's not a closed loop either. You can find more of those cases if you scraped Merit data with Reciprocal sMerits tab in Merit dashboard , created by DdmrDdmr

This is not the first time that I have seen Merit exchange between users and this is not the last. Merit is not moderated by the forum and if there is clear evidence then both members get red tagged by DT members. So we just need to move on and those members will surely run out of their airdropped intial sMerits eventually. That's when forum becomes such a wonderful place to be than today. I can see that shining future is not far away, by considering the way Merit system works, the way Merits ruins shitposters/spammers life. Then we can expect less spammers and less shitposters, because then there are no Merit feeders for those shills.

Is this the new trend of merit hunters, creating a thread in a different board by following a hot potato topic from the "Serious discussion" board? We shall follow the Serious discussion board since its less spam and more informative (even though it is subjective), but creating a similar kind of thread is not ethical (at least for me). What should have been done is share the link of the original post and discuss its pros and cons, suggestions of other members while giving your views regarding that topic. Comparison of merits given away for the two threads is not proving anything to me. Because it is subjective from user to user. Sometimes reputation, user brand name what impact they have done throughout their career for the forum matters, most importantly the users who are active in the Serious discussion board are the users having more knowledge and experience in the crypto field. Just imagine what would happen if AlexTF.CCN created the Cannan mining TV thread at first place? Will that thread able to get 8 sMerits (including the OP)? I don't think so. Actually, that is the bitter truth that everybody didn't want to express. I am a fan of that truth and I'm a believer of "reputation matters" (but not in every scenario)

Isn't that bolted part dilutes the value of views: posts ratio?

I think the thing that we should consider is which side is heavier when we put general interest of members and the problems created by merit hunters in a scale.

I think we all can "use" this forum regardless of our ranks. It's a knowledge hub and like a free encyclopedia for me. Sometimes members misunderstand the word "use", we shouldn't take "use" as an ability to post but reading too. Some level of intelligence and knowledge is needed When it comes to replying or starting a thread and I think its nothing to do with the Merit system. I think we all need to think twice before starting a thread. I have seen that most of the Newbies and Jr. Members (I didn't say that others won't, but the majority is from newbies and Jr. members) are starting threads without using the "search" function to check wether that topic has been discussed in the forum before or not. It didn't say that we shouldn't start any thread regarding a matter which previously discussed, but some of the facts that discussed previously are true at all times and no need to discuss again and again (eg:- How to add images to a post?, Forum rules, What is activity and merit?...etc).

Merit matters when it comes to ranking up. So members need to put extra effort when starting a thread or giving a reply. Your contribution to the forum appreciated by other members by giving away their sMerits. Those Merits under your username will help other members to scrape the valuable members from the shitposters. So everybody tends to thought twice before starting a thread or reply, isn't that cool? (who didn't like to be ranked up while helping other members and by sharing your knowledge )

Either way its beneficial for the forum member who looking for answers and the member who do research more about the subject that going to be answered. Both parties get educated due to this introduction of the merit system. Otherwise, what will happen, people, just open threads and giving away answers even they didn't know about that topic at all.

This guide has been discussed in the forum more than hundred times. I think next time if you're going to do a guide for new members, do it after that you used the search function.

Your intentions are good, (however try to avoid those bounty walls) I will added few threads where you can find more details regarding Insert image function in BB Codes.

• BB code lessons & Tutorials
• Guideline on posting images (with size adjustments)
• How to add image, resize image and make image clickable

You both, sir, doing tremendous works by creating bounty reports and you both are deserved to be merited. These higher rank members actually don't know how much you have contributed to the forum and for other members. Richer get richer these days. BTW how much do you want? is 10 sMerits enough, because I only have 10 right now (don't tell those higher rank members and they will ban us)

Actually, I don't understand the point you are highlighting? Is that mean are you helping for other members only to cover up your post requirement?

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This thread is now becoming SMT and I think this thread better to be locked by OP since he/she got the answers from other members.

Can I get the last free one

No you should learn to read more and learn how to use Search function before going to post. Don't bother about Merits, they will come eventually when you're learning to post constructively and helping other members in the forum. Most importantly you need to learn English before going to post in Meta. This is rubbish. BTW welcome to the forum

I think there are so many things to be worried rather than pay rates of a signature/bounty campaign in this forum. I think OP's intentions are clear. He/she wants to be ranked up easily and join a bounty campaign and filled the shit reports to get a higher pay check. This is not a workplace mate and see around and gain some knowledge.

Actually why isn't it locked Is that I'm the only one who don't understand anything in those billboards where Mymenace spams trolls at his best.

Hell yeah mymenace is his/her cousin . Got 10 Merits for just asking about an airdrop and funny thing about "mymenace" thrown away another 5 Merits for just the reply of "Thanks for your merits". LOL

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I know Merit is not moderated by the forum, but this is a clear cut case and we all are playing the waiting game....