You can check Github account and do your research. Pretty ridiculous ask to proof that is a copy-paste when Monero is a fork(... do you know what fork mean?).
I check github almost daily, xmr is quasi the most active developed alt there is... do you even know how to read github? And yes, I know what a fork is... kind of pedantic that a newbie-account like you would speak in this condescending tone, I'm here since beginning of 2013, you are here since may 2016 and it tells that you know jack shit about anything... What you're saying is all forks are copy pasta? Congratz, you just blew what little was left of your credibility.... 2 questions for proof of your ridiculous claims were asked, two times you avoided showing some... go ahead, make some more empty claims that show you for the empty-headed fool you are. best regards LOL probably you know only how to read the number of commits not the code and what exactly adds in terms of functionality and quality. What major feature added Monero to the code copy\pasted from Bytecoin? The most valuable and advertised feature of Monero (anon ring signature) is copied from Bytecoin and there isn't any other valuable feature. There isn't event a decent GUI wallet, with the still in beta release that has less features than the old first GUI Bytecoin wallet released many years ago and uses an embarrassing amount of RAM. Try again Monero PR dude, give it a rest, you're making a total fool of yourself: - lmdb implementation so the blockchain doesn't have to be stored in memory anymore - add full support for fluffy blocks - switch to Borromean signatures in RingCT - fixed issues with coinbase transactions - overhaul of the threading system - kovri (i2p) development - optimise blockchain refresh - major RingCt performance improvements - multisig is being developed - an enormous amount of bug fixes - lots and lots more Gui-wallet runs pretty decent on my computer btw, don't know what you're doing wrong there... and to conclude? Can you explain why xmr gained effective usability last year and BCN did not. If XMR is just a clone like you're implying and totally behind on the curve, then why is the usebase so much larger than that of BCN? Oh, I know, because of evil brainwashing xmr community probably... now please, go shill for your 86% premined scam somewhere else... |
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You can check Github account and do your research. Pretty ridiculous ask to proof that is a copy-paste when Monero is a fork(... do you know what fork mean?).
I check github almost daily, xmr is quasi the most active developed alt there is... do you even know how to read github? And yes, I know what a fork is... kind of pedantic that a newbie-account like you would speak in this condescending tone, I'm here since beginning of 2013, you are here since may 2016 and it tells that you know jack shit about anything... What you're saying is all forks are copy pasta? Congratz, you just blew what little was left of your credibility.... 2 questions for proof of your ridiculous claims were asked, two times you avoided showing some... go ahead, make some more empty claims that show you for the empty-headed fool you are. best regards |
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Interesting discussion. I have always noticed something weird with Monero. They speak like is the best crypto in the world creating FUD and accusing of scam for all others altcoins in the world with only exception of the coins developed by their affiliated, and when you check the code after so much time progress are embarrassing, years of development and no significant improvement with wallet still unstable and with code that seems written by some amateur nerd teenager. It's a pity that there is so much silence from original Cryptonote\Bytecoin developers and doubt about its future, they are clearly on a different league in terms of skills and ability to continue to develop code compared to the Monero noisy copy\pasters.
Can you please provide examples of the copy and pasting into the Monero codebase? Everyone know Monero story and Cryptonote based coins ecosystem know that Monero was a Bytecoin (BCN) fork, not an original developed altcoin. After they forked Bytecoin with a little edit to the core code they started a massive campaign to accuse all other Cryptonote based coin of scam advertising Monero very aggressively in main cryptocurrency communities especially here (digit "random anoncoin or cryptonote based crypto" and you will find a Monero user screaming "scam" and other FUD bullshit to discredit it). Ok, so no examples are given, thought that would be pretty simple to show since you say there's no significant improvement.... anywayz, second question: Can you show some proof of monero-users accusing other coins of being a scam when they aren't scams? thanks in advance edit: just wanted to save you some effort, here's the proof that bytecoin is a premined scam: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=740112.0Let me know if you have some examples of monero-users calling other coins scams when the are not! |
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djeezes, did you even read up on the history of dash? did you ask yourself why dash price is rising? did you do your due diligence on how dash works, on the masternode-system, ... 50 f-ing k for christ sake... some 'alternative' reading... it's always good to read into both sides of the coin (pun intented): on the history of dash: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1740313.0on the recent rise in price: https://twitter.com/ARKblockchain/status/834841078234767360I'd be pooping my pants in your situation... best regards and also best of luck on you current and future endeavors. |
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The thing is I don't know why you waste so much time trolling Dash (and other crypto from what I've heard) do you think this somehow makes Monero look good? Let me advise you, it reflects very badly on your favourite token. If its true that you are paid to troll us then I think whoever is doing that needs to go and meditate.
Calling a scam a scam does not a troll make But I wouldn't expect a Dash fanboy to comprehend So good luck with your 'investment' |
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Monero looks like it has had a classic bubble and dead cat bounce. Sentiment is now fear and denial I'd guess. Next is panic.
been there done that, many times already...  Call me when xmr is back at 0.5$ U mean 0.5 Bitcoin instead of 0.5 dollar? nope, 0.5$, AFAIK xmr has never ben 0.5 BTC before... I was implicating that maybe with xmr at 0.5$ I would feel a light sence of panic, but I'd probably just buy more... The chart I posted was from the btc-runup in 2013... many many many people sold in panic at the bottom of that bubble (about 70$), now btc is 1130$ TLDR: panicking sucks, certainly when a coin has primo fundamentals, just like xmr... |
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Monero looks like it has had a classic bubble and dead cat bounce. Sentiment is now fear and denial I'd guess. Next is panic.
been there done that, many times already... Call me when xmr is back at 0.5$ |
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It's all about fungibility... Money should be fungible: http://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/1967/what-is-fungibility-and-why-does-it-matterHow would you like it, that when you send money to someone from your bankaccount, this person can see how much money is on it, and every transaction that ever happened with it... If they dig deeper, they can see you booked a prostitute 5 weeks ago, that you sent money to some christian church (now they know your religion), that you go shopping at walmart, that you payed a fine for drunk driving 5 years ago etc... Who cares if it's illegal or not, you really want all your 'non-illegal' activities out in the open? Who on earth would want such a thing, where your whole transaction history is out in the open... Anonimity in cryptocurrencies isn't something to go over lightly, it's essential... no anonimity = no freedom whatsoever... If you want a government with total control, then use a public transparant blockchain... best regards |
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I don't read the crap that Joel Valenzuela aka the desertlynx (a known dash-fanboy) writes anymore... That guy has zero integrity and lost all credibility long ago. best regards, |
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Oh come on... You're playing dumb here... Corruption only exists because (members of) a government can be bribed Terrorism exists because of interventionist policies by government Ah well... Water under the bridge... |
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The only conclusion here:
If you're still using BTC on DNM's you might as well go to the FEDS and just admit to everything you have bought/sold over there... If they are worrying about xmr now, it means they don't care about btc (as much) anymore, reason: they can see the whole transaction-history in btc... They couldn't have dreamt such a nice transparant system to monitor criminalised behaviours...
MONERO was deliberately created and then used primarily for Dark Market usage. Nice try though sock puppet doing damage control. Users adapted Bitcoin for Dark Market use AFTER THE FACT with *MIXERS* etc. Satoshi did not sit there trying to think of a coin system that violates anti-money laundering laws to as Dino say.. "Stick it the man" (purpose of crypto is to be anti-law etc) Nope.. they latched onto it like they did with FIAT. You are trying hard and i laugh my ass off so hard i lost it hours ago.. can anyone help me find it ?  You dumb fuck shills deserve to get a serious legal ass kicking with all the retard shit you been spewing the last couple years. I am fed up with your crypto rebel teen angst unrealistic Dark Market advocacy. You stupid little cock suckers would not shut the fuck up about Monero's grandiose DM usage you were more than happy to brag about non stop with your little hype, spam and pump tactics. ...NOW YOU ARE fucking back peddling fast and hard when you start sweatin' the mother fucking FBI might come knockin. What did you cocky smug greedy little fuckin' pukes expect ? Go fuck yourselves and your little DM shitcoin scheme bullshit too pricks. I TOLD YOU SO STUPID FUCKING CUNTS ...blow me  derptyy fuck mutha fuckin derpty derp all the little profiteers caw like crowd here before.. Liekz 0MG BBQ n0ne 0f the other coinZ are used on DM's 0NLY Monero'z so it'z bettah !!!11111ONE You were oooooooooooooh so happy to brag the shit out of it and now ? Shit talking little clowns are hiding under their bed. You pathetic spineless shit talking little fucking cowards make me sick. Go five your picture ID to Poloniex more ya bullshitting baggies  lol, anti-money laundering laws... are you so naive that you believe that shit? Do you know how retarded that concept is? Don't you see what government is doing with our money, how the game is totally rigged, how government (as you would put it so nicely) f*cks you in the ass all day and all night... How they will tax you to death, and then some... How they erode the economic and social tissue with their endless moneyprinting (yes, printing out of thin air, and you're worried about money-laundering FFS ) the biggest imposters ARE the ones inventing 'anti-money-laundering-laws' so they could remain the biggest thieves of them all without competition, using their other monopoly on violence... and you are defending that... go read a book naive little kid... best regards, |
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EPIC FAIL sweet-heart ..dark markets period .
1 darkmarket, 2% of usage... first people were telling xmr-implementation@alphabay would be epic fail, because wouldn't be used... now xmr = darkmarketcoin... what is it now? stick ... dog ... find ... best regards |
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The only conclusion here:
If you're still using BTC on DNM's you might as well go to the FEDS and just admit to everything you have bought/sold over there... If they are worrying about xmr now, it means they don't care about btc (as much) anymore, reason: they can see the whole transaction-history in btc... They couldn't have dreamt such a nice transparant system to monitor criminalised behaviours...
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Xmr is still in my opinion the best privacy coin,followed by SDC DASH is flawed and zcash is a scam (imo) We may retrace a bit for now but I think $50 by the summer is realistic so stay calm and hodl  You forgot about ZCoin. i didnt forget ,i just dont rate it at all.... a cheap copy of zookos scamcoin has no place in my portfolio i also hold some NAVcoin because i like the project as well (its also a privacy based coin and i think this wil only become more importamt in the future ) http://navcoin.org/zcoin is not a copy of zcash at all. It is a totally different protocol. Yes, somebody finally implemented the zerocoin protocol. You should do more research before shit-posting totally incorrect things, as it makes you look like a fool. smh Zcoin isn't a copy of anything! LOL do you know anything about the coins you are trading?? Zcoin would be a huge improvement if it only copied Zcash. Where's the code for Gary Le's prior project, Moneta? I don't throw around these terms lightly; this is a classic example of repeatedly shoveling out vaporware. I hope for your sake that you're not invested in that insta-turd. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1638450.msg16515400#msg16515400 - I'd rather invest in DASH or GoxBTC. same here, I'd never trust a guy that was able to get himself doxed like this http://archive.is/ZIcVN with developing a 'anonymous' coin... wouldn't touch it with a ten feet pole, that one... |
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Anyone that has any understanding of the real world knows USD will be here far longer than we will. The largest military presence the world has ever know backs USD, It's pretty damn safe. The guy with the biggest stick makes the rules no matter how civilized we want to think we are.
don't agree, it's pretty obvious the reserve-currency status of the USD is being hollowed out by a new axis of countries who have only one choice: work together or be obedient to the US... China, Russia and Iran will work together more and more, more and more the USD will be shunned for international trade. Silk road 2.0, AIIB, SGE, ... bilateral oil-trades. Where was the US-military in Syria btw? Right, it were the Russians who called the shots... US may have the biggest stick, it won't take on China, Russia and Iran together. In addition we might also see a pivot from Europe to Asia... If the US has no friends left, they can forget it... the unipolar world is finished. USA will less try to do things on their own. Not saying they are doing it. But You cant expect that just everyone will gang against them. Also is hard to expect others will gang at all, but more likely oppose each other. What bothered me in your post most was Iran. Iran is not a huge force. And will less and less importance of Oil will be even less important. What I see most neglects is India. India will first become biggest country, then strongest economy and last strongest military. All this will happen in this century. Europe is still there, but losing power so as Japan. Upcoming countries are Brazil, Indonesia and Nigeria.  As said, I don't think the others have much choice, it's gang up or be bullied into obedient serfdom... Trump might try to become better friends with Russia, but who knows if that will work out... Tell me which friends are left for the USA? Even Europe is turning on them as I feel it, and rightly so, the Washington imposed Russian sanctions have only hurt Europe... Iran is a force to be reckoned with in the Persian Gulf... There's also a difference: USA needs to use its naval power for offensive purposes. Tehran needs naval power exclusively for defensive purposes... so they (Russia, China, Tehran) build anti-ship, ant-aircraft and anti-ballistic systems... There's also technologytransfer between said countries, these defensive systems would face the USA with heavy losses... Only reason why Syria and Iran remain sovereign nations is because of the military cost that an invasion or bombing would have brought on the USA... the essence of deterrence... You're right about India btw, but I don't know where their allegiance (will) lay, they're pretty neutral to me right now... The chart you post is made up by a US-agency, you'll have to forgive me to not trust anything that comes from said agencies... one only needs to look at the US employmentdata produced by the BLS to know what kind of politicized bullshit said agencies produce... I might trust a chart of the current status, but the predictive capabilities of these agencies are so flawed and coloured that I'd trust my own belly before them... Look at what the IMF comes up with every year... I also don't think that this chart can possibly incorporate 'black swan events' such as loss of reserve-currency-status... But as always, only the future will tell who's (more) right... best regards, |
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Anyone that has any understanding of the real world knows USD will be here far longer than we will. The largest military presence the world has ever know backs USD, It's pretty damn safe. The guy with the biggest stick makes the rules no matter how civilized we want to think we are.
don't agree, it's pretty obvious the reserve-currency status of the USD is being hollowed out by a new axis of countries who have only one choice: work together or be obedient to the US... China, Russia and Iran will work together more and more, more and more the USD will be shunned for international trade. Silk road 2.0, AIIB, SGE, ... bilateral oil-trades. Where was the US-military in Syria btw? Right, it were the Russians who called the shots... US may have the biggest stick, it won't take on China, Russia and Iran together. In addition we might also see a pivot from Europe to Asia... If the US has no friends left, they can forget it... the unipolar world is finished. The neocon US-policy overplayed its hand, and its deathbed is made. This is a nice summary I think: http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/12/19/geopolitics-globalization-and-world-order.htmlnot saying the USD will be dead tomorrow, but if you have another decade to live I'm pretty sure you will live to see its reserve-status finished... and rightly so... best regards |
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Spoetnik, dude, stop making a fool of yourself... you got totally slaughtered by Dino in this topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1737902.msg17462080#msg17462080your arguments are a total logic fail... so what do you do: you just open a new topic with a different (although again very flawed) argumentation to bash anon coins (monero)... just give it a rest now before losing all credibility... best regards |
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Then read this topic title.. THEN go bring your picture ID to Poloniex and buy Monero to get crack on Alpha Bay.
You just made it blatantly obvious that you don't understand what xmr is about... but first of all: - if you stay under the 2k-day-limit, you don't need any picture id... aka, you can give a false name... combine that with a little opsec (like using a vpn or something) and you're good to go second of all: - xmr transactions are unlinkable... here's the address where I send the coins that I buy on poloniex too (aka my base-wallet-address when I want to get coins offline): 4473WH5nch2Mr7mGjxo1gVGYcGXbPTFqREzffmUA8YJTBgLpfcLB5n1eL8pjV2YeXx8MDXj5Le5cZSr zoS4zFg549Cszzwx now show me your magic and prove which transactions I have done with that address please! which coins have entered that address, which coins have left... how many coins have i deposited on that address etc... I'm sure LE would be very much interested in how you do it... thanks in advance, best regards |
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Fungibility and privacy are inexorably bound. Except something can be fungible AND public which, in terms of unbacked monetary properties is far more optimal than being fungible and obscure. In bitcoin, every coin address is visible, its balance auditable and its continuity with every other address explicit. That transparency is UNIVERSAL and SYMMETRICAL. i.e. it isn't restricted to keyholders, everyone has the same view whether you're a payer, payee, network participant or non-participant. That's fungibility. no, it's not... how else do you explain coinbase deleting accounts because 'shade transactions'... aka, your coins are tainted, so we close your account... aka, the coin used in shade transaction != newly minted coin I don't know my neighbours bank balance either, I don't get your fetish with transparancy and then building optimised anonimity on top of that because muh same view wether payer, .... no no no, I won't be dragged into this again... good luck with your dash-fantasy this topic is about exchange centralisation bye |
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The end game is to create a fully fungible digital cash I think you're mistaking "fungibility" for "obscurity". They are not the same thing. Fungibility doesn't come at the expense of transparency (unless you're talking about fungibility of 'transaction IDs' ) oh boy, here you are again with your inane theories about money... in bitcoin, fungibility is broken because of transaction history, in xmr, fungibility works because of no transaction history aka what you call obscurity... it's just that simple... |
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