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1601  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: gambling techniques on: December 21, 2022, 08:20:13 PM
House do always wins but it would really be normal that they would really be keeping an eye on someone whose really do make out winnings or simply being profitable.Its really impossible that
they wont really checking out if there are some exploit or something that it is really against their terms but most of the time they arent proven out and just simply
there are people who are really that extremely lucky.
House oversees the system to improve or increase maintenance to prevent exploitation of the use of bugs for gambling wins, but if the gambler uses a normal strategy with several combinations of opportunities used then it does not mean 100% without defeat but the dominance of the potential to win is higher, so the point is that gamblers do not need to feel worry if the strategy will work and never engage in activities that violate rules.
Casinos wont really be dumb on locking up someones withdrawal just because they've won big on using up some betting techniques and strategies.Its true that house or platform do make out constant updates and
security checks in relation with possible exploits and bugs because they do know that it could really cause that much damage if ever a certain user would able to exploit it.
We do have lots of techniques and strategies that could be used on gambling and its up to us on how we would be using it, making up the good decision
on when you would get in and when you would get out.

Well so far in the few casinos that I have read the terms and conditions do not prohibit the application of game techniques, because in reality they are not 100% effective and all the time, that can significantly affect all players who always follow patterns and trying to do new things, it is not something that is weighted.

If a casino prohibits a player who always wins, it would be exposing itself to the fact that the casino is not very well regarded for winners, and it only wants to have those who lose the most, that is not good to reflect, large casinos do not do things like those, because I think that's what the advantage of casino is for.


You never get the full advantage at the casino.  Because players who always win and who always lose are always busy with the casino.  Because casino is such a stage that you never know which player will lean in which direction at any time.  If you want to win then you have to adopt some strategy which is really suitable to win the game.  But casino games have to be planned perfectly.

That's not new because since the casinos has surfaced in this planet, they already have the advantage in every game inside and that's what we call the house advantage. That said, you may have won or lost the bet, the casino always got its percentage as it was designed that way and that is to win in the end. Someone said to me that people inside the casino are actually battling with each other, thinking that they're against the casino but in reality, their foes are exactly the other bettors because those said bettors are the ones who will pay what they won and not the casino. Again, that's how casinos are designed.
1602  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Qatar world cup Final Predictions on: December 21, 2022, 07:57:47 PM
I guess that a lot of us were expecting to see messi vs CR7 at the finals. It would be amazing and story would be written around it.
This would have been unlikely, unlikely based on the part of Portugal as it actually turned out but, a world cup final between Messi and Ronaldo would have been epic. Two GOATs, locked in an epic of having a chance to end there national careers with a trophy that have eluded both and most of all, one gets to deprive the other of the opportunity, it would have been sweet savory for history.
Still okay, Messi got it and that's enough for them no or should should say, Messi. Can't say Ronaldo is exactly happy for him, lol.

The France vs Argentina World Cup was already epic, how much more if it's Portugal vs Argentina, right? I'd say epic will be an understatement because that is the world's dream match-up especially for the avid football fans out there. Well, what we saw in the recent Qatar World Cup is already a treat because the match-up was so intense and for me, it's already the best World Cup.

Sadly, both Messi and CR7 might not be around anymore in the next world cup. Some are already saying that the latter's last dance will in the Euro '24.
1603  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Which kind of situation will force you to sell? on: December 21, 2022, 06:27:12 PM
People actually claim to be strong holders that can go against any situation wanting them to sell off some of their bitcoins. The strongest of holders do not just sell at the slightest economic discomfort I know, but I believe everybody has a threshold at which if the pressure surpasses them, they would break into the decision of selling some of their bitcoins to sort the present condition. What kind of situation do you think is enough to pressure you in seeling some of the bitcoins you have been holding. Is family or health challenge enough reason to?

Yes, even the strongest hands do have some weakness that will force them to sell a fraction of their assets or worse, all of it.

The reasons might vary depending to the holder's situation, but for me, I do have something of my mind that will force me to sell some of it but I'm not inclined to disclose it for some beliefs and I'm not really hoping that it will happen somewhere in the future because that also means a bad news for me, for both of my assets and for the situation that will make me sell it.
1604  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: December 21, 2022, 06:03:55 PM
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Can Jordan Poole repeat what he did against the Raptors or will this just be another game to give up without Steph Curry around?
I want to see a new face stepping up his game, maybe Moody, Lamb, or Kuminga. Just to fill the missing piece while their injured players are resting.
Jordan Poole is very talented but Curry is a legend who can do it night in and night out.  It takes years to get to that level.
40+ night in and night out is tough to pull off even with the likes of Curry or any other legends. Jordan Poole is already doing 20 to 30 a night and has been consistent with that range lately.
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It's one thing to be the 3rd option and get your shots in but when teams are game planning for you it's a whole different level which is why you need the superstar guys who can do it when other teams game plan to stop them.
Right but we already know the GSW system doesn't just rely on too many ISO plays. They are pretty good at ball distribution and setting up screens which allows many opportunities for open shots so any defensive plays aimed at stopping just one player like Poole isn't really going to work long-term.

That's right, you're not wrong at all. As long as a player can successfully take responsibility for himself in the absence of Stephen Curry, then I do not think there is a problem so long as he is able to do so successfully. In fact, I am looking forward to seeing the Warriors play their next game. Specifically, I would like to see if Poole can actually perform as well as he did in the last game or if someone else needs to take on that responsibility.

Aside from successfully taking that responsibility, consistency is as well needed because anyone can take any responsibility but the question will be, will that player be efficient in his new role and responsibility? So far, the Warriors doesn't have any troubles because one of them, Jordan Poole is taking a step further to fill Curry's absence and with the help of the rest of the roster, I bet they will still making wins along the way.

Later, they will face the Brooklyn Nets. Poole has been leading the team for the 2 consecutive games already, let's see how they will manage the situation later.
1605  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I Am So Done With Betting Until.... on: December 19, 2022, 08:20:38 PM
Gambling and betting require a strong mind, as the names suggest. Both winning and losing are enjoyable, so when you lose a bet, do so with the same enthusiasm. Although it hurts, the firm celebrates when you lose against them. I cautioned individuals against gambling above their means because life can go both happy and sad ways. Put some of your extra money on the line so that you won't lose it all if you lose. I only bet with extra money.
That is why never put all your money in gambling, and bet all in. That is very risky to think. Although you can win some of your initial bets but you can never beat the house at the end of the day. Mostly, the bettor will always end up as loser as the house is designed to always win. So gamble only at the amount you can afford to lose, otherwise if it’s hard for you to set up limits, then just bring good amount that you can manage to lose.
1606  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much initial startup to Start Cryptocurrency Casino? on: December 19, 2022, 07:48:52 PM
I am not an expert, but I assume 100k would be enough to start a small casino, some small advertisement because with that amount you would need to give priority to keep the security of the website in good shape, have a healthy money reserve to pay your clients, etc.

So if you keep your expectations low during the first years, hire able people with experience on casinos and and slowly make your treasury grow, you could eventually move onto more wide advertisement campaigns and more games. That's my opinion.

Keep in mind the competence is hard in this business, tho.
I bet $100k is just good enough for a small casino, and with small variants of game as you are still in the beginning process and would still exert a lot of effort first so you can sustain with your business. And to think that this type of business is a lot more common so the competition will be also tight. So you need to have a strong and experienced team that will help you to make your business grow. Maybe if you see your profits is already growing, then you can add more bonuses and promotions too to keep your casino at its edge.
1607  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How are Online casino's and sports betting platforms coping? on: December 19, 2022, 07:22:30 PM
As long as there's someone would like to support the crypto gambling casino or the casino itself they can sustain their current living. All businesses must need to adapt to the environment, else they don't get in the ride, and the peoples choose if you are out of the trend possibly the users not get entertained this is the main goal of the casino to give satisfaction, I guess in this current crisis they didn't get affected too much instead make another way with the online gambling.
If the casino has still a strong back up for its funds, then there’s no reason that it will be affected by the current pandemic and would advise to close. After all, those who have stopped from their operations have been weighing the possibilities that if they continue to operate, they will certainly end being bankcrupt. Most likely, online casinos that time have given more opportunities to earn an income since the people find it more convenience to play at them at the comfort of their own homes.
1608  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slow down if you want to recover your losses on: December 19, 2022, 06:50:30 PM
The slow down bets makes me think clearly and stop me for doing risky bet. This is most important lesson I learned on this messy situation.
It's may be good for you but not good for the bookies LOL
Imagine everyone is listening to you and able to recover whatever they lost so far, we will see the gambling industry collapsed. In gambling nothing works, the house is designed to have business from you. You were just lucky. If you really want to gain from gambling then stop gambling 😉

On the other hand, if you enjoy gambling then gamble. After all it's entertainment.
As long as you can afford to lose all your money, then you can gamble as much as you want. No one will come to stop you, unless you run out of money to bet, then no choice but you have to really stop. However, in most cases, once you continue to gamble to chase your losses, in the end still you will never make it. The house has always an edge, and it should be the one that will always win and not the gamblers themselves.
1609  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why every casino got bad habits? on: December 18, 2022, 09:59:23 PM
If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?
Before the casino reacts and turn into doing bad habit, I guess there is something that have triggered it that makes it resort into doing that. And obviously, it’s the gamblers themselves that are also making such abuses in the casino and when the casino responds to it, those gamblers will quickly throw stones to the casino and consider the casino as not fair and has bad reputation. This has been happening in most of our good casinos, unfortunately there are really some gamblers that won’t abide with the rules and even make their own rules to follow.
1610  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] Manny Pacquiao vs. DK Yoo on: December 17, 2022, 05:20:24 PM
Pacman vs Dk Yoo fight supposed to be a charity fight. Does anyone know how much they have rised? Or the whole fight-event was so boring, that no one is interested in that?
there are still no announcements (or at least I haven't found any) but this article(link below) made an estimation of how much Pacquiao and DK Yoo will get from the fight. I don't know if DK Yoo will donate the money he'll get from this fight but I saw in one of the articles that Pacquiao plans to donate the money he will get from this fight.

https://www.sportspayouts.com/boxing/manny-pacquiao-vs-dk-yoo-purse-payouts/

According to the article, Pacman owns 80% of the PPV share they'll get in this fight, and as estimated, it's $5 million USD, so it's a huge amount of money if that will all go to the charity. If converted in Philippine pesos, that's almost 300 million pesos, I think that's too big for one charity, maybe plenty of charities will benefit.

That's a lot of money, but is it confirmed?

$5 million is a decent amount for an exhibition fight, Pacman was not even trying hard to win, so it's called easy Money for Manny.  Smiley
About the charity donation, there's plenty of charity in the Philippines, so if Pacman would really give everything he received, that will be a big help for the charities selected.

Yes, it's already confirmed that he will be donating all of the money that he earned in his recent fight against DK Yoo.

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Manny Pacquiao says his return to the ring will provide homes for 80 families in need
* The Filipino fighting legend told Insider this week that he won't receive any of the money.
* 100% of the proceeds will go toward two charities, Pacquiao said.
https://sports.yahoo.com/manny-pacquiao-says-return-ring-215556886.html

I also heard that Manny Pacquiao have his own foundation, which is not that surprising because there's a lot of rich people who have their own foundation as well. So, I think a fraction of what he earned in the fight will be donated in that stated foundation as well aside from what's stated in the quoted article above.
1611  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: December 17, 2022, 04:55:06 PM
Great time for the future franchise players of GSW to shine now that Steph is out and some of the vets could not play on a consistent basis.
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Voting for the NBA ALL-STAR will start pretty soon. I'm not really into this but I'm looking forward to the young stars that would likely get voted. Zion and Ja are already secured in my opinion and then you have Doncic and Tatum who are still in their early 20's.

This will be very challenging for GSW without their main superstar. They are already struggling and if they will only win 1 out of every 4 games without Curry, it might also mean that they can give up their goal to defend their title this season. But we never know, maybe all of a sudden the team will step up along with its young players.

It is interesting if there will be a new name in the coming All-Stars. Maybe someone from Utah Jazz if they are back in the winning column now that Markannen is playing again.

Yes, let's just see first what they can do in the absence of their main superstar who contributes the biggest points per game. Right now, there's already a lot of opinion that I heard regarding the Warriors situation after Curry's injury, some are saying that the team will crumble in the next games without their star but some also says that the younger players like Wiggins and Poole will start stepping up for the team just like what they did last season. The season have just started, so let's expect the unexpected because the NBA will have a lot of surprises.

They've got a lot of players to cover Steph. Klay, Poole and Wiggins are offensively contributor who they can lean in times like this,
maybe it's not an easy task but they can win game/s.

While Steph is still recovering, coach Kerr needs to balance his players. I'm not sure, but with the way they are playing, it seems that
the chemistries are not blended well.

Players and coaches need to address this before it's too late, not good for the defending champ being out in the upcoming
next round, too early to tell, though.

There's no need to expect from them this time because it is expected that they will be defeated in the first few games after Curry's injury, just like what happened earlier when they faced the 76ers. But the good thing about them is they are learning and they have a good coach who has a vast experience when it comes to these situations as it's not their 1st time as well.

Even if they will get defeated from the most remaining games this year, it's not yet too late for them to recover and climb the ladder towards the top of the Western Conference.
1612  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] Manny Pacquiao vs. DK Yoo on: December 16, 2022, 07:25:12 PM
It is true that martial arts is different when it comes to boxing because the rules are also different, but martial arts is also about speed and to respond well in such attacks by showing how good your reflexes are. And seriously, I didn't saw those attributes to DK Yoo when he was facing Pacquiao recently on the ring and frankly that's the reason why DK Yoo's face is now becoming a meme.

Maybe because of the difference in the fighting nature, DK Yoo's approach to Pacquiao is not shown.

It's also worth noting that they also fight within Pacquiao's comfort zone which is boxing.

If we changed the situation where Pacquiao will fight DK Yoo in a martial arts fight, the result might have a chance to favor DK Yoo since that is his nature.

Exactly, but of course the exhibition fight will be in boxing because it's more popular, and Pacman is very popular in that sport. Just like Mayweather, he didn't fight in UFC so he continued his dominance against a UFC fighter which is Conor McGregor.

And the opposite will happen if Mayweather fought McGregor inside the octagon and if that happened, I guess Pretty Boy won't be that pretty anymore as the latter will seriously destroy him inside his comfort zone. Just like what will happen to Manny Pacquiao if he fought DK Yoo in a kickboxing because the Filipino legend is not that used to fight in that certain sport. Anyway, it was nice seeing Manny Pacquiao again inside the ring.
1613  Economy / Speculation / Re: Stop the panic, I doubt we will see 14k or less Bitcoin on: December 16, 2022, 07:01:53 PM
Yeah, that is right --as we can see, the market experienced again a correction after it shows resistance yesterday.
A volatile nature was expected for bitcoin price but it does not mean I agree that there is a $14k button because luckily, that was not happening as of this year. This correction will perhaps trigger the price to increase again by this month which is only my speculation. There is no negative news that happens around only Binance FUD that perhaps the reason bitcoin price now reacts to this.
High potential for a correction to occur in current market conditions, the $14k button is probably the worst that will happen if the market has returned another $15k by the end of this year, I was expecting the market to stabilize in the $18k area but sadly it didn't happen and so the hopes are early next year be a fresh start for market growth, i would like to see $20k price in january next year.

Indeed, right now we're at 17k line and it's still not stable as the end of 2022 approaches. Needless to say, we might see a much lower price in the next couple months and I think it's best to think that way rather than expecting a price that is unlikely to come in the 1st and 2nd quarter next year as we're still in for some surprises before the bullish season will commence.
1614  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Errol Spence vs Keith Thurman on: December 16, 2022, 05:42:50 PM
No update until now? Despite being in the same stable, they still find it difficult to negotiate. Who is at fault here? Is it on Thurman or Spence? I had reservations about this fight occurring as soon as I saw this topic. Spence previously stated that he would not offer Thurman one of his three belts. To settle this fight, perhaps the WBC should simply move forward with a purse bid. We don't want to lose time by waiting around.

I would want to see Thurman or Spence take on Ennis and Ortiz Jr.

Good to see you here mate. It seems like this fight may not happen at all after Errol Spence had another car accident. He mentioned that his leg is injured although I cannot find any more news about the severity of his injury. 

You know the WBC, they are up for the money and they do not want to mess with big promoters as well which means Vergil Ortiz is probably out of the picture for Thurman. The WBC might also consider a garbage interim belt while Spence is still healing. 

Hopefully that's not the case because it will be a disappoint again to know that even this fight is not happening next year, I'd like to be positive and think that this fight will be delayed because of that accident. Although, I know that it's really possible because we don't know Spence's situation regarding his legs as his camp is not disclosing any information about it.

In this incident, I also do hope that Errol Spence had a lesson and should start to consider hiring his own driver rather than him behind the wheel not knowing what could happen along the way as it's already proven that he's a magnet when it comes to situations like that.

Well, if Spence is out for some months in order to heal his injury, the WBC will most likely order a fight for the WBC interim belt. Ranked number 2 after Thurman is Vergil Ortiz Jr. But Vergil Ortiz is already keen on taking Eimantas Stanionis for the WBA regular after GBP was able to beat PBC in the bidding. Ranked 3 is Jarron Ennis, in the past, this kid already requested the IBF to issue his mandatory status on Spence which means this may not happen too. Ranked 4 is Yordenis Ugas, although I like to see Ugas take at least 1 tune-up fight, he might accept right away if given the chance since Thurman is a big name that guarantees big money and is very beatable nowadays.

That's quite messy to think just because Spence was injured, but the governing bodies don't have any choice but to move on because they cannot force a boxer who is currently injured. I'm just hopeful that Spence's leg injury wasn't that serious, so that he can return and materialize the fight between him and Thurman as people are already expecting about it too. The guys down the line may have to wait because Spence's ordeal will cause a delay.
1615  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13 on: December 16, 2022, 04:56:22 PM
Well Butler already did a great job for surviving almost 12 rounds, not many boxers can take all of Inoue's punches. Although in the scorecard Butler never win in any round, but at least he's really prepare very well to fight against Inoue. Congratulations for Inoue to become undisputed champion on Bantamweight, I think no one in this weight dare to take a challenge against Inoue lol. Inoue will move to super bantamweight and it increase the possibility if he will fight against Casimero.

If that was only his intention to survive, then  he should not fight as it will only hurt himself without a chance of winning. Inoue was a bit frustrated but his power was very evident, good thing he caught Butler in 11 rounds and knock him out. A well deserved win, no reason to stay at the current division, time for him to move up and challenge champs at weight class.

I initially thought that Butler will likely go toe to toe and test himself, but they put a conservative strategy, to run and avoid Inoue's power punches. But Inoue are intelligent, if he see his opponent keeps on running then he goes to the body shot, more devastating effect later and that is what we see on Butler as he doesn't have the gas to keep himself from running. And when Inoue feels that he can take him out then he cornered him and put that killer blows and the referee did a good job stopping it without counting the full 10 round count on Butler because obviously Paul is wincing in pain in the canvass.

I also did, that's why I was upset to see that he didn't faced and tried to fight Inoue head-on with even just one round to at least satisfy the crowd and audience especially the ones who came and watched to support him in his fight despite the fact that he's already losing the fight even before it started. But no, Paul Butler chose an embarrassment and waited until his body gave him up because of that powerful body punch that he was receiving since the 1st round.
Total disappointment for those who bet on butler yet the only thing that he had done is to avoid total engagement whenever Inoue tries to box out and just having that upperhand kind of defense.
Well, yes its really just that wise but its something not really good to look at that there are really times which he could really make out some counterattack at least which it really ends up on
having a boring fight for Butler yet all the thing he do is to avoid and evade.You could almost count off on how many punches were thrown.Inoue did find a way on cracking up
that turtle defense made on 11th round which his body cant really take anymore with those bombard of power punches.

They had it coming because they still bet on Butler even though his chances is not that pretty, much slimmer than slim, I think. Surely Butler had a nice juicy odds, but those who bet in his favor wasn't really thinking that the bookies are just tempting them hence why his odds was like that compared to Inoue. If only there's a betting option for Butler to withstand the whole 12 rounds, then that's more decent rather than betting for him to win.
1616  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cock fight game on: December 16, 2022, 04:12:10 PM
~Thye are getting a huge amount of money. That's the reason why they are involved
with gambling, not only limited to cockfight but the whole gambling activities
with the involvement of most government officials.

I don't know, does cockfighting attract many gamblers, I mean, worldwide?

There's an article in Bloomberg, saying that "Online Cockfighting Wagers Rake in Billions in the Philippines". In the article they say that only one group’s revenue each month is about 1.5 billion Philippine Pesos($27 million USD), and that's a huge money, but is there another country like the Philippines in this regard?


I think it's not much of a worldwide game that attracts many gamblers around the globe, cockfighting only exist in handful countries in South-East Asia. I've searched it on the internet, it shows that it's also famous in Latin America but gamblers are not that drawn to it unlike to the countries in Asia.

And it's true that E-Sabong (Online Cockfighting) has a revenue of about 1.5 Billion Pesos monthly but that was before it's still legal because now, government has banned E-Sabong, but live cockfight games do exists legally, just not the online version.
1617  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 15, 2022, 07:21:07 PM
The first undisputed bantamweight champion in 4 different divisions. Super amazing. This will be a record that is difficult to break. It may take a while before we can witness another boxer that will surpass this kind of achievement.

Only at bantamweight is Inoue undisputed. He is currently a champion in three divisions. When he moves up to super bantamweight, he is excited to become a champion in four divisions. Anyhow, the legacy exists already.

And anyhow, it will be difficult for the future boxers to break the record he set and I think it will take a couple of years from now before it will be broken because there will be another set of bad boys in bantamweight after this generation and that makes it harder to follow Inoue's footstep.

That is a fact. It will be difficult to match Inoue's accomplishments at bantamweight. Alongside the political divisions of boxing, I will be stunned, assuming an undisputed top dog will surface in two years.

That will be surprising if that indeed happen in about two or three years from now, but anyway, that is not really likely to happen given that the competition will be intense and yes, political issues between promoters will also impede for the younger generation to become the new undisputed champion.

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I learned from the news that Nonito Donaire will compete for the WBC belt. I still do not know who will be competing for the remaining Inoue belts. Given that he fought Inoue for eleven rounds, Butler may be able to challenge for the vacant WBO title.

Is that so? I thought he will climb the lower weight class which is super-fly because I think that's what he said, but it really makes sense that he will remain in bantamweight given that Inoue won't be in the picture anymore.

1618  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: December 15, 2022, 06:51:59 PM
It was definitely a great game to watch for sure. Lakers made one of the best comebacks in years for them, not in the league but Lakers barely make any comebacks now so this was the best one in a long time. And not only that, they also lead by like nearly 10 points or so at one point, a 32-5 run if I remember correctly from last night. However they decided to botch it last minute and lost it.

I feel like it's not going to be that easy for them to recover from this because they used all of their energy on this game, they tried really hard, next game should be a loss I am guessing because everyone will be incredibly tired by the time they play.

The Lakers have started to perform much better compared to their performance at the beginning of the season. At least if LeBron and Davis are healthy, then the Lakers can compete with any strong team, and the outcome of this match is a good example of that. Honesty, I'm more than sure the Lakers would have been able to beat the Celtics if Davis hadn't missed two important free throws with 28 seconds left in the 4th quarter.

Despite the heartbreaking defeat, the Lakers know that they can compete with the best. The Lakers still stand a chance of reaching the playoffs. All they have to do is keep making progress. Because Lebron and Davis are such crucial pieces of the puzzle, they absolutely need to keep getting healthy if they want to become a serious contender in the West. They are only a short distance away because there are still many matches to be played. They have only played one-fourth of the entire NBA schedule so far. Additionally, they have the ability to make moves in their lineup in some ways.

There is no need for them to have remorse for what was already done and what happened, a loss is not a complete loss if they will learn from their mistakes and try to be better. Lots of fans have said that they can really take that win for the team, but they let it slide because of some crucial mistakes in the last 5 minutes of the 4th quarter.
They already got what it takes and do have the correct players to guarantee themselves a seat on the playoffs, they just got to overcome their problem with inconsistency.
1619  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Errol Spence vs Keith Thurman on: December 14, 2022, 08:29:16 PM
No update until now? Despite being in the same stable, they still find it difficult to negotiate. Who is at fault here? Is it on Thurman or Spence? I had reservations about this fight occurring as soon as I saw this topic. Spence previously stated that he would not offer Thurman one of his three belts. To settle this fight, perhaps the WBC should simply move forward with a purse bid. We don't want to lose time by waiting around.

I would want to see Thurman or Spence take on Ennis and Ortiz Jr.

Good to see you here mate. It seems like this fight may not happen at all after Errol Spence had another car accident. He mentioned that his leg is injured although I cannot find any more news about the severity of his injury. 

You know the WBC, they are up for the money and they do not want to mess with big promoters as well which means Vergil Ortiz is probably out of the picture for Thurman. The WBC might also consider a garbage interim belt while Spence is still healing. 

Hopefully that's not the case because it will be a disappoint again to know that even this fight is not happening next year, I'd like to be positive and think that this fight will be delayed because of that accident. Although, I know that it's really possible because we don't know Spence's situation regarding his legs as his camp is not disclosing any information about it.

In this incident, I also do hope that Errol Spence had a lesson and should start to consider hiring his own driver rather than him behind the wheel not knowing what could happen along the way as it's already proven that he's a magnet when it comes to situations like that.
1620  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 14, 2022, 07:49:35 PM
The first undisputed bantamweight champion in 4 different divisions. Super amazing. This will be a record that is difficult to break. It may take a while before we can witness another boxer that will surpass this kind of achievement.

Only at bantamweight is Inoue undisputed. He is currently a champion in three divisions. When he moves up to super bantamweight, he is excited to become a champion in four divisions. Anyhow, the legacy exists already.

And anyhow, it will be difficult for the future boxers to break the record he set and I think it will take a couple of years from now before it will be broken because there will be another set of bad boys in bantamweight after this generation and that makes it harder to follow Inoue's footstep.

^^ It's a different weight class for Teo and I would agree that we might see a different version of his at welterweight as this is not his natural weight as compare to let's say Prograis who are very comfortable that's why he can back it up with his talk with a great win recently.

We will have to see how Teo Lopez will respond back in his next fight here, whether for the belt or not. He will be lucky if he will get a title shot in this 3rd fight in this division because it is said that he might be waiting for the winner of Prograis vs Ramirez.

As long as he continues winning, eventually he will get his shot for championship fight and that will be the time to prove if he really deserve to be a champion again. if he will fail, hopefully he will not anymore makes an excuses like he did when he lose in the lower weight class.
He will have his shots eventually, he will be the mandatory for Prograis belt if I'm not mistaken.

But Regis will have to defend it against Ramirez, a former champion that Josh Taylor beat this year to unify all the belts. Teo and his Father are two loud mouths and for sure they will have another excuses if they lost again to either Prograis or Ramirez. He had a difficult time against Martin who are just a second tier fighter in 140 lbs. So imagine Teo fighting the best of this division and the result might not be good for him.

The junior welterweight division is where Teo is competing. Teo is a big man, probably about Mayweather's height or even a little taller. Teo can compete with the best in his new division if he grows from his mistakes and improves. If he can withstand the powerful blows of Prograis, Teo has what it takes and the ability to beat Prograis or Ramirez.

Yes, I looked it up. Teo and Floyd do have the same height, but the latter got the reach compared to Teo which makes him it easier to throw a counter while Teo got to be closer before he can throw his counter. Teofimo Lopez's career at superlight will become much harder in the upcoming years because he is about to face the champions next. Either Taylor or Prograis.
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