^^ Everyone is after the money, no more legacy or pride or try to be called the best in boxing. And of course there are styles as well, styles that make people buy tickets and wanted to see the fighters live to see how good they are like Tank Davis. But then again, boxing politics will stand in our for us fans to see if this fight is going to be made or not. But it's better for Shakur to just take one step at at a time, beat Robson in a dominant fashion like he did against Oscar Valdez and as I have said, go and unify the belts, we've seen Josh Taylor did it this year and Canelo has done that in 168 lbs. He should chase history first, before pursuing money fights.
If he will win against Robson in their upcoming fight, then its not only history that he will chase but also lots of money will be in his possessions. However, it’s always good to see a good boxer taking one step at a time because that will also give him enough time to master his own boxing skills and enhance what needs to be more develop. As for Shakur, it won’t be hard for him as he has already titles that prove his worth in the ring. I really believe that Shakur will really win in this upcoming fight, I know that there's also other factors that could potentially get Shakur defeated but those chances are much slimmer. Though this is just a title defense fight, this fight is also an important step for his career as he will gain more experience from Robson and this fight will open more doors for him. Maybe after this he can go and fight against Joe Cordina to add the IBF belt in his possession. |
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It will not be a surprise if Haney will win again, the one that should work harder here is Kambosos because his career is just starting to get better but if he lose again, he might have to start over again, which for some boxers it will lead to early retirement.
That's very obvious, Kambosos has to find a way to knockout Haney, or else, he will again lose in the judges scorecards. If only he is a knockout artist, then maybe he can find a good timing to counter Haney and knock him cold, but that's not the scenario I'm seeing because Haney's quickness will make him easily win the fight again. |
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Nice early Christmas present for us boxing fans. As expected, we will see an undisputed fight and I believe majority will agree with me that Inoue will win this fight. If there's no betting odds yet, I'm expecting that Inoue will be heavily favored in the betting sites, let's see how Inoue would KO Paul Butler who avoided to go toe to toe against Jonas Sultan.
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Congratulations OP, honestly, I don't mind the bonuses every time I sign up on a certain gambling site. Based on my observation, the most popular is the welcome bonus because it's very attractive if you will read their marketing, however, we have to understand that it's not free money, there are always criteria that should be followed, and if we succeed, we can benefit on that.
Thanks for making this thread, I'm sure newbies in the gambling world will be helped by this information.
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It could have a rematch (even if there is no written clause in the initial contract), if the fight is going to be razor sharp close or maybe even in a draw.
But if it's a convincing win, then maybe not, but if there is a huge money involved then again, they could go and fight one more before going up in weight. So I guess the fans will also have a final say and maybe the promoters are going to take that lead from us if they see a demand for it.
We never know, because that always depends on the winner if he will give a rematch, that's why to ensure a rematch will happen, it should be written in the contract. One example is the fight between Mayweather and Pacman, for some, they think it was a close fight, and both could make huge money again if Mayweather gave a rematch, but he choose not to fight again just to ensure he will keep his undefeated record. |
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Ring generalship, effective aggressiveness, and defense are always mentioned as huge factors in scoring a fight because they lead to successful punches and counter punches. And if a round is somehow at a tie then the aggressor should win. Most of the time, the aggressor is the ring general and the one that controls the tempo of the fight. Fighters like Floyd Mayweather may not be aggressive but due to his superb defense, most aggressors aren't that effective causing Floyd to successfully counter-punches.
I agree with this, but this fight, both are aggressive and yet there's no knockout happening. The first fight result in a draw, but in the 2nd fight Canelo won the judges despite the fact that it's a very close fight and some thought GGG got the win. In the end, it's still on the hands of the judges as they have the final say on the result of the fight, the only reason we have a trilogy is because the fans ask for it, and that would result to good money for the boxers and the promoters. That's a better reason, hopefully, all promoters and fighters will answer the request of the fans and make it happen. Boxing is entertainment, it will not succeed without the support of the fans, so we should be the boss here, actually, this fight should have happened a long time ago. |
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This also mean that he really need to work with his physique since basketball is physical sports and those veterans will surely hit him hard on the hard court. Also maybe from this he can minimize his critical injuries. This is unfortunate for him because he was so hype before season starts and I'm wondering now if he can still deliver good performance next season.
I guess we are expecting too much from him, we know he is hype, but he is just a rookie, he might not even be playing with heavy minutes, so don't expect heavy production from him. All he needs to focus now is to recover from the injury so he will be 100% prepared for the next season. I'm expecting that he will be a good candidate for the Rookie of the year, but his missing next season will put him out of the competition. Injury can happen anytime to anyone but it's bad if one of the potential star players will suffer from it, and worse is he will miss the entire season. |
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The problem is I don't think being aggressive from the start is the nature of GGG and probably it could be a problem if he tries that. But if he also takes too much time to set the pace, Canelo is going to try to take advantage of that as well because he scores points often in the later part. So, GGG will have to approach with caution. He can be aggressive but he will have to be careful so that he does not get too aggressive and let his guard down. Because he can get countered and knocked onto the canvas.
If we refer on GGG's last fight against Murata, there's no aggressiveness on GGG on the early rounds. Lots of punches being thrown successfully by Murata and all those are good shots. There was even lots of solid punches that Murata gave on GGG during the first few rounds. While the fight is progressing, GGG now slowly get back on track and becomes beast mode. Murata can't answer now and that leads for GGG to a knock out win at Round 9. That proves that GGG still has the strength and power to end the fight in a KO Victory. But that situation shouldn't be applied against Canelo. Every rounds count and matters if fighting against Canelo in scorecard. Yeah, because if GGG will let Alvarez convert solid punches like how he did against Murata, he can suffer with a KO. It's a different fighter but for sure GGG knew about it since he already fought twice against Alvarez and he almost won, sadly to say that Canelo gain judges favor and takes fight number 2 while escaping a possible loss during fight number 1. Now, GGG will try his best to bounce back and push for another one or possible that he can retire with a good revenge against the heavy favorite Alvarez. That's a heavy challenge for Golovkin's side but I'm sure he can manage because he really waited for this fight to happen, he sure knows what to do and what is the weakness of Canelo as they like you mentioned they already fought twice already but unfortunately Canelo got some help in the said matches. I'm rooting now for GGG to win because he deserve it also because he's been snatched a win in their 1st fight, now even if the odds is really against him, I'll gladly support him. |
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And that is why Figueroa was really mad at Broner for pulling out at the last minutes because his preparations have been ruined. Anyhow, both Figueroa and Broner are past their primes to either way it's going to be a boring fight for boxing fans. This is Figueroa's last fight probably or if he continues to fight, he will be just the fighting for the money or just a stepping stone for young fighters. for Broner, not sure if he has contract or something with PBC or Showtime, but we might see the same, just 1 or 2 fights for him assuming he can get over his mental issues and then he is done with boxing.
That pretty much sucks for pulling out on a probable fight that could be lit, well Omar Figueroa Jr. is really pissed and frustrated right now after that much preparation, and surely he doesn't have much time and he wants to have a match with Broner very badly and he is asking for proof if Adrian Broner really has mental issues, because this is really upsetting for Omar Figueroa Jr. right now resulting to getting on social media to say what he wants, Not sure though if Broner or someone in his camp cared to give some evidence that proves he has some mental issues that's why he backed out from that fight. Who wouldn't be so pissed about that?  You've allocated all your time and effort for a certain boxer to study his moves in the ring and Figueroa is really looking forward to fight Broner in the same ring but unfortunately, Broner turns his back on him. |
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That fact alone will be one of the reasons why Ancajas should be more eager to get the belt that was once safe in his possession before he got lost by a first time title challenger, Martinez. Let's just give Ancajas the benefit of the doubt too because having a sudden exchange of opponent will of course make him struggle or any boxer in the industry as Ancajas himself didn't prepared for Martinez.
Yes, that is fair enough, let's see how he can do in the rematch, I mean he saw what he did wrong in the first fight that's why he immediately wanted to fight Martinez again and see a different version of Ancajas, the one that we know of, who can box and beat his opponent to the punch. He also has the speed, but something is really off that night with Ancajas and after the fight he said that he had cramps, but is no excuses. So in the rematch for sure it will be Ancajas at his best because he wanted to get back the belt that he lost and be back on the discussion for a Ioka fight. It is a good thing that Ancajas got a new nutritionist. Having cramp after a fight mean he is lacking some minerals which is the responsibility of the nutritionist to keep him fully nourished. The cramp simply shows that he isn't conditioned enough for the fight. It looks like Ancajas underestimate Martinez in their first fight and he paid the price greatly. For sure the 1st match is a lesson for Ancajas and will surely adjust his trainings according to what they have learned in the previous fight. It happened once, it should not happen again in this fight, otherwise, it will kill his dream to stay as a champion and win more championships. Ancajas is still young, he can still achieve more, but if he cannot avenge his loss and get back his belt, then I think his journey ahead will be very very hard. I bet it's the same nutrionist of Mark Magsayo as they're both under the same promotional company, regardless who is that nutrionist, that should help Ancajas enchance his chances this time to win against Martinez because the pressure is somehow higher this time because he needed that same belt he once held to fight Ioka next. Surely, climbing another division is not an option for the team so they should win this fight. |
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^^ Venue is also very important for this fight, gamblers will come out on the fight week so hotels and casinos will have to take advantage of it. Again, we have seen Crawford and Floyd in the public together and I reckon it could be in Floyd's hometown and for sure Floyd as well might be indirectly making money out of it. Good if they can add good undercard in this fight, but the selling point is still the main fight. Knowing how deep PBC's stable though, maybe they will have another big name to be included here.
It would be nice if they will have a good undercard, since it's a big fight, they should entertain the crown with a good undercard. I can't wait to see this fight but until now promoters' have not stated yet the date and venue of the fight. I understand what they are doing, it's probably their marketing trick so people will continue talking about this fight. I echo your sentiment. It might be possible that the promoters are really observing how fans will demand for this possible upcoming fight. Both Crawford and Spence do have fans that will be glad to see the fight live or even in PPV. It should be great if we will good undercards fight while waiting for the big event. Still, in the process, I guess, negotiations are rolling and everything will be depends on how both camps together with the handlers will announce the date and the venue. Promoters are still on the process of testing the waters to see how would the public react and it's good to know now that they are almost done finalizing the deal because they are now looking to have a good fighters in the undercard to enhance/maximize the revenues they could get in this fight. Crawford-Spence undisputed fight tickets will surely be sold in just mere hours and the PPV buys will ramp up for sure. People are already excited and been impatiently waiting for this fight to happen, I hope they can establish this fight in November. |
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It's funny to see how quickly Durant changes his mind. Let me remind you that he tried to put an ultimatum to the Nets' owner a couple of weeks ago, and now they somehow managed to reach some kind of agreement. Honestly, I think Durant has been acting a little weird this offseason, and he definitely deserves to get some boos from Nets fans during the first home game of the upcoming season.  That's why the NBA Twitter world is reacting to that awkward return of Kevin Durant. Those he requested to be fired, GM Sean Marks and Coach Steve Nash, had some serious talk with him. Seems KD really got his head too big as I read, Steve Nash convinced Durant to stay despite the latter wanting him to be fired. Alright, now that the KD drama is ended, hoping for Durant to do his very best next season. Wow! I am glad Nash acts like that. I can't do that if I were him. KD said some nasty things against him and as his coach, it must have hurt his feelings, and yet he is the one who convinced him to stay. This is good. Some chemistry happening in their team. I am expecting better things to happen after this and so with Kyrie. Last year I expected them to be at the top of the league but was a disappointment, perhaps now it will be different. Yes even if I'm on Steve Nash, I can't talk to the person who have a grudge against me and wants to fire me out of the organization. He even convince Durant to stay despite him having a bad approach to him. That's what you called a good pride compare to the big pride that Durant, Irving and Simmons have lol. Nash still thinks what better for the whole team instead of exchanging bad words against Durant. Their GM also extends his kindness to Durant. I hope Durant will realized that good and kind act did by him from the Nets Owner, General Manager and his Head Coach. I don't know what to think about him now if he will remain arrogant despite that good approach by him to those he want to fired. That is the exact gesture of true professionals, they sacrifice themselves to set aside their emotions and chooses to do the job they are assigned even if Durant was kind of getting inside of their head because of the specific move that Durant made Joe Tsai choose. Head Coach and General Manager was just trying to set an example for the whole team so that there would be no one who would try and follow Durant's egoistic footsteps. |
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but in boxing not everything is numbers and statistics, it's the real part, real life, and really even though both boxers have failed along their paths, it will be interesting to see this fight.
Thats true. This will be a great fight that we've been waiting for years. Thanks to Canelo losing to Bivol, because if that didn't happen, we might not see this fight. Possible, but I think when Canelo re-sign with Matchroom and DAZN, he knows that sooner or later this fight is going to happen regardless of the result of of his fight wit Bivol. But the thing is, when Canelo losses that fight, it add an extra motivation for him to fight GGG because he knows that he can get back in track as the cash cow and p4p #1 with a victory here. So we will see after this fight if Canelo will extend his contract again with Eddie Hearn and the DAZN. A wise decision by Canelo, and that really was a blessing for us because we have been anticipating this fight and now it's coming into reality. Well, we all know that although Canelo won in their last fight, it's still not guaranteed that he will win here like what bookies are thinking, I like to believe that bookies are overvaluing Canelo in this fight. About motivation? I'm pretty sure both fighters are motivated. Same here, as if Canelo can have these fights if not because of Matchroom and DAZN. It will be wise to re-sign his contract with the same promoter because he will be just fighting B-class fighter if he decides to sign in other promoter. Also, DAZN did well in including GGG in the contract this year because Hearn knows that a trilogy will still be watched largely by people around the world even if GGG is somehow over his prime years already. Well, I hope that this time will be just and fair fight not just like their first two fights where Canelo has the favor. |
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Anyhow, and since Loma has declared his comeback, this two for sure have that at the back of their mind because the winner of this fight will challenge Loma in the next fight. Bob Arum has already set this plan in motion already.
That's a good news if it will happen, Loma vs Haney, such a great rivalry as both are technical fighter. I like Loma to win but Haney is just too fast, so Loma has to make a strategy that will expose Haney's weakness, which no one knows for now. Might be too premature to say it this time because Loma will for sure adjust in the ring first because he's been inactive for almost a year now while busy defending his country against the Russian army during that time of inactivity in the ring. We'll see Loma's comeback first against Ortiz, but I can say that the latter has a smaller chance to win and a fight between Loma vs Haney will be a good fight to see for sure, soon! If Haney will take Kambosos again and Loma will win with his own upcoming fight, the chance of seeing these two inside a same ring might be the next in line from the promoters, They just need to win both and hypes their name for the fans to call for them to meet up, both camps will be compensated a lot if fans will call and will support if ever they will be arranged to face each other. For now, it's the event first that we needed to watch, then after that we will be able to give our opinion to which fighter the winner of these upcoming fights will be facing next. Indeed! And if ever Kambosos will win as well as Loma in their respective fights then I think we will likely see these two next sharing a ring together as the fans will for sure ask a fight between them before somebody is climbing another division because Haney is already the undisputed boxer in lightweight and nothing for him to clean there. That is still not sure for now because Loma still have to prove his existence in lightweight after that inactivity and has to defeat a much younger Ortiz, don't get me wrong here because I'm not underestimating him but he's now at the back of a long queue even if he had a reasonable reason for that inactivity. Gervonta Davis is I think the next in line for a unification match. |
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The same situation with Ancajas because he originally prepared for a title defense fight against Kazuto Ioka but was replaced last minute by Fernando Martinez and Ancajas ultimately lost the title he held for quite a long time. These instances can't be predicted because the original boxer wanted to participate in the fight but an issue surfaced later on which resulted in a need for a substitute just like this time. Even if there's no sudden replacement, Jerwin Ancajas might probably still lose that supposed original fight. The reason is very clear and it was stated by his team. Ancajas is not in good shape because of his hard training to catch the required weight. That resulted in him not performing on his usual and Ioka might take that as an advantage. As I read on some reports, that's the focus now of Ancajas camp as they are really preparing seriously to get a win on a rematch against Martinez. We can't know that for sure because aside from the fact that Ancajas was struggling to catch the required weight, his trainings were originally made for Ioka and the team was studying the Japanese boxer's move for quite some time to help Ancajas win the fight but that didn't happen because of Ioka's sudden decision. Not sure though why Ioka backed out, does anybody here know why? Yup, we can't really confirm that as the fight didn't happen in the first place and we can only do some speculations if the fight did happen, but I still believe that the result will be much different if Ancajas fight Ioka that time. I mean, Ancajas's chances to win against Ioka was decent but that same chances drastically fell down after that sudden replacement because Ancaja's has only had a little time left to prepare as the fight is already approaching near. |
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Just curious here, is anyone from Fernando Martinez's hometown or supporters of him here in this thread? I know a lot of PH boxing enthusiasts here including me but I don't see yet any supporters for Martinez. Don't be shy. Share your sentiments here too. I'm not a supporter of Martinez, I believe he is an Argentinian we don't know how many Argentinians are actively posting in the gambling discussion, I may not be a supporter but I am an admirer I admire a boxer who is well disciplined and talent-laden and I believe Fernando Martinez is a good talent but of course, I support my countryman Ancajas but I always want the best man to win and the game to be fair so I can accept the result, I admire both boxers but Ancajas has my support. Both of them is good for sure and Martinez deserves some credit in defeating Ancajas in his first title chase because that's not an easy thing to do considering that Ancajas has been holding and defending that belt successfully for years and only Martinez was the one who pulled the victory. Anyway, this time there will be no reasons for Ancajas as he will be training for Martinez alone to take back that belt and bring it back in the Philippines. |
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Maybe they are also on the process or discussion on how to maximize their profits and make the fight bigger than mega-fight as an undisputed fight is really rare to happen in the boxing industry, also, I happen to read somewhere that Spence's camp is asking for Crawford's camp to help Spence sell and market the fight as he couldn't carry all the load even if he is the king of PPV. Don't know if it's really true but both of them should really try to sell the fight even if they know that their fight is much anticipated.
They share the obligation but I'm curious since both fighters are top calibers and their names already have market value. I don't see any needs of selling as in one formal announcement of this possible fight fans will be there to support, especially the gambling industry Exerting more effort into the marketing will help them sell more, more PPV and gate entrance means more money, and probably more sponsorship as well. This is an anticipated fight and it could only happen once, so they have to take this opportunity to make more money. Trash talking and other form of taunting especially on social media is I think enough for them to gather hype for this match, they are big star already and for sure many of their fans would provably watch this fight because for sure many are interested to see on which of them is the more dominant fighter. Provably there are still ongoing negotiation for this fight to happen and maybe there promoter just want more people to talk about this fight so that they can also get huge revenue for this match up. There is already a big hype on this fight, I don't see why it will not be push through by promoters at this point. Even casual fans know both fighter are elite and undefeated, so why need to hype it more in the public? revenue for this match up is already guaranteed. I'm seeing the tickets for the live gate will be a sell out, it's just the matter of PPV as what we have discussed that it's too expensive and because of piracy, the numbers might not be what it is expecting, but still a lot of money for both this fighter. I think the last update regarding this mega-fight in the making was that they are just taking their time finalizing the boxers in the undercards to maximize the profits more. Although there's nothing to worry about the undercards as this undisputed fight between Spence and Crawford will really sell out as the public is already excited about this and it will generate huge revenues that could likely be in the list of biggest revenues generated, but we can't blame them if they want to make sure to maximize the profits because this is a business after all as both promoters pf each camp might not come across fight like these. |
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One more season with Russell Westbrook and let's see if his inconsistency last season will be changed. Actually, he won't have to put great numbers per game as long as he is consistent in providing good support for the team. In fairness to him, he can play the entire season without even experiencing a minor injury. Still athletic as always and not injury prone. He just needs to find a way to become his former self where he is draining shots consecutibely and has the ability to slash the paint to put up a score + foul.
I don't think he will last a full season with the Lakers if he plays the way he play last season. I know that the blame should not be put on Westbrook's shoulder, but there was a huge expectations from him specially wih how the play with the Wizards the previous season. On that matter, we can't really conclude right away what will happen to Westbrook's performance next season. For me, just give this guy a chance. We can refrain from saying negative speculations for now. And one more thing, we should not put expectations from him as it will just result in disappointment. Lakers fans should now be used to doing that. Wierd how in one year the narrative turns on Westbrook. I know it's a lot of pity stats but he was a one man wrecking ball when he was on okc. Maybe it was just an off year. Dude is a competitor so I wouldn't be surprised if he trained hard this summer and comes out different next year. He could still make a difference because of that experience he obtained throughout the seasons he played, I'm not sure about this but I believe that he was just struggling in having a supporting role of the team as he was used to be the Alpha and the one who make most of the decisions. He sure know by now that he ain't gonna have that role in Lakers because there's Davis and Lebron doing that. For now, let's just sit back and see why Darvin Ham chose to keep him in the roster. |
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Supporting him is what the team needed to encourage him to continue working with his weight. That particular issue might bring problems with him, but the determination to win back and recover his belt should be a must. Ancajas needs to adjust and exceed from his limitations to take this rematch. He's a known fighter, and he needs to work it out. By any means, he needs to be there and try to beat Martinez with all the collective strategy that his camp collects and executes.
I watched the first fight and I believe Ancajas can take the punches of Martinez but he is a bit slow both in throwing punches and reflexes that is why he was dominated by Martinez. In upclose fight, the one with shorter reach has the advantage because he can fully swing his punches while the one with a larger wingspan needs more time to swing his punches due to the bigger radius. Ancajas must take advantage of his height and reach this time. He must train throwing jobs and straight and move more than engaging in a brawl. He was slow because he got tired, he does not look conditioned in that fight, so this rematch is going to be his last chance to prove that he can still reign in this division. Good thing nowadays that rematch is happening more, especially if the champion losses in a match, so one last chance to get what he thinks he deserves. If Ancajas has problem with meeting the weight limit in his current division, I think he must move up. I'm sure he is considering that as his plan, in case he failed again this time. |
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the fact that Shiba is indeed known as a meme coin, but that's wrong,
because shiba is more than a meme coin, the proof is that there are many good exchanges listing these coins, even coinbase,
moreover shiba also has progress on games, this is why shiba is really very good at fundamentals
Well, I guess you are right but people think about this project as a meme coin and a reason why some people don't trust this project. Even though it was listed to all exchanges, reputable or not - it can't erase the history of this project and that meant a lot when it come to choosing a project to invest in. I won't stop people from investing in this project but don't like to hear them screaming and crying because they lose. Indeed, it was a choice and we have the right. |
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