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August 23, 2022, 03:41:07 AM
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The same situation with Ancajas because he originally prepared for a title defense fight against Kazuto Ioka but was replaced last minute by Fernando Martinez and Ancajas ultimately lost the title he held for quite a long time. These instances can't be predicted because the original boxer wanted to participate in the fight but an issue surfaced later on which resulted in a need for a substitute just like this time.

Even if there's no sudden replacement, Jerwin Ancajas might probably still lose that supposed original fight.

The reason is very clear and it was stated by his team. Ancajas is not in good shape because of his hard training to catch the required weight. That resulted in him not performing on his usual and Ioka might take that as an advantage.

As I read on some reports, that's the focus now of Ancajas camp as they are really preparing seriously to get a win on a rematch against Martinez.

It's all speculation though, so 50/50. But if you look at some fights that have their opponent replaced, there are fights that the replacement fighter won or not. Not sure what is the statistics though or if there is one in the internet.

Nevertheless for Jerwin and his camp, they should treat it as a learning experience, a learning curve that they need to overcome right now if Jerwin wanted to became a world champion again and chase more like Ioka in the future.

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August 24, 2022, 04:51:17 AM
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We knew boxing politics is common taking away huge and fan-friendly fights from its fans. Earlier this year we heard both light-heavyweight champions Artur Beterbiev (18-0-18 KOs) and Dmitry Bivol (20-0-11 KOs) wanting to duke it out for the undisputed belts but it hasn't materialized due to tv networks' differences. IBF, WBC, WBO, and lineal champion Beterbiev is promoted by Bob Arums Top Rank with ESPN as its network while WBA champion Bivol might have remained under Eddie Hearn's Matchroom with its DAZN network.

Last weekend in the undercard of the Usyk-Joshua rematch was a light-heavyweight WBC eliminator. Former lineal super middleweight champion Callum Smith (29-1-21 KOs) won and is now the WBC mandatory challenger. But Top Rank's Artur Beterbiev holds the 3 belts in the division including the WBC while Callum, the same with Bivol is with Eddie Hearn and DAZN. How can Callum, Beterbiev, and the WBC enforce this fight? Or will the WBC issue an interim belt for Callum? Or will Arum persuade Beterbiev to vacate his WBC belt? The most interesting part which I hope the WBC is not scared to do is to call for a purse bid. The biggest money on the table promotes and uses its partnered network.

We knew DAZN has the deepest pocket in boxing right now. But we also knew how Bob Arum and Frank Warren recently defeated Eddie Hearn during a purse bid for the rights of Tyson Fury - Dillian Whyte fight.   

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August 24, 2022, 11:53:57 AM
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The same situation with Ancajas because he originally prepared for a title defense fight against Kazuto Ioka but was replaced last minute by Fernando Martinez and Ancajas ultimately lost the title he held for quite a long time. These instances can't be predicted because the original boxer wanted to participate in the fight but an issue surfaced later on which resulted in a need for a substitute just like this time.

Even if there's no sudden replacement, Jerwin Ancajas might probably still lose that supposed original fight.

The reason is very clear and it was stated by his team. Ancajas is not in good shape because of his hard training to catch the required weight. That resulted in him not performing on his usual and Ioka might take that as an advantage.

As I read on some reports, that's the focus now of Ancajas camp as they are really preparing seriously to get a win on a rematch against Martinez.

We can't know that for sure because aside from the fact that Ancajas was struggling to catch the required weight, his trainings were originally made for Ioka and the team was studying the Japanese boxer's move for quite some time to help Ancajas win the fight but that didn't happen because of Ioka's sudden decision. Not sure though why Ioka backed out, does anybody here know why?

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August 24, 2022, 04:27:52 PM
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So the replacement of Broner won the fight against Omar Figueroa, not sure if fans have bet on this fight, but I totally skip this one. Lipinets stop Figueroa, his corner and father wave the white flag and ask the referee to stop the fight as his son is taking too much punishment in the hands of Lipinets. He also drops Omar in the second round. Not sure though is this win will have a bearing in the 140 lbs. Possible that Lopez who won over Campa can fight Lipinets as another step up fight for him to be "legitimate" 140 lbs contender, so lets's see.
The results were quite surprising because as a substitute for Broner, Lipinets actually only had a little time to prepare for the fight, but in fact Lipinets were able to compensate and even fight quite crazy by releasing many heavy blows at Figueroa, I think,  what Figueroa father did was actually true because in the 8th round, Lipinets were really quite brutal with many targeting Figueroa head as a target, so it was clear that Lipinets dominated enough without any resistance from Figueroa who had been stuck at the side of the ring.

I think it's not surprising at all because the odds favor Lipinets. And if I'm not mistaken, Lipinets is also preparing a fight on the next couple of weeks. So he is already in shape even before being tap as a replacement for AB.

Also, as @lionheart78 has pointed out, sometimes this replacement fighters can really gave big problems on the opposing side because they are not prepared for it.

@DU18 mentioned LIpinets lost to Ennis, Jarod is one of the best prospects in 140-147 lbs.

Yup, Lipinets has the advantage needed to win and defeat Omar because he have already trained for this fight in about weeks or months even before he was called to sub for Broner while on the other hand, the latter is still blinded and was preparing for Broner because he and his camp didn't expected that Broner would withdraw last minute.

And that is why Figueroa was really mad at Broner for pulling out at the last minutes because his preparations have been ruined. Anyhow, both Figueroa and Broner are past their primes to either way it's going to be a boring fight for boxing fans. This is Figueroa's last fight probably or if he continues to fight, he will be just the fighting for the money or just a stepping stone for young fighters. for Broner, not sure if he has contract or something with PBC or Showtime, but we might see the same, just 1 or 2 fights for him assuming he can get over his mental issues and then he is done with boxing.

That is if Figueroa can still have some fights with decent money on the line because he should know that he's already an old story in the industry just like Broner. The way I see it, their career is just waiting to be called on some fights just to be defeated (cherry-picked) as it's a natural thing these days to get the younger boxers some tune  up after a long inactivity or some issues. Other than that, there's almost no way that Figueroa and Broner can call some fights to make money.

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August 24, 2022, 04:32:14 PM
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The same situation with Ancajas because he originally prepared for a title defense fight against Kazuto Ioka but was replaced last minute by Fernando Martinez and Ancajas ultimately lost the title he held for quite a long time. These instances can't be predicted because the original boxer wanted to participate in the fight but an issue surfaced later on which resulted in a need for a substitute just like this time.

Even if there's no sudden replacement, Jerwin Ancajas might probably still lose that supposed original fight.

The reason is very clear and it was stated by his team. Ancajas is not in good shape because of his hard training to catch the required weight. That resulted in him not performing on his usual and Ioka might take that as an advantage.

As I read on some reports, that's the focus now of Ancajas camp as they are really preparing seriously to get a win on a rematch against Martinez.

We can't know that for sure because aside from the fact that Ancajas was struggling to catch the required weight, his trainings were originally made for Ioka and the team was studying the Japanese boxer's move for quite some time to help Ancajas win the fight but that didn't happen because of Ioka's sudden decision. Not sure though why Ioka backed out, does anybody here know why?

Yup, we can't really confirm that as the fight didn't happen in the first place and we can only do some speculations if the fight did happen, but I still believe that the result will be much different if Ancajas fight Ioka that time. I mean, Ancajas's chances to win against Ioka was decent but that same chances drastically fell down after that sudden replacement because Ancaja's has only had a little time left to prepare as the fight is already approaching near.

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August 24, 2022, 06:05:33 PM
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It is not surprising because when a boxer is replaced at the last moment, all the training and preparation of the other boxer is wasted.  They (Figueroa) prepare a strategy against Broner but instead got Lipinet at the last moment.  If you remember the last fight of Paquiao the same thing happen, his camp prepare for the fighter replaced by Ugas but got Ugas at the last minute so Pacquiao have trouble adjusting during the fight and lost.
No one expected indeed if Sergey Lipinets could win the fight, no better than from Broner made me doubt if Sergey Lipinets would be able to throw Omar to the floor, especially when I saw the boxing history of Sergey Lipinets who just lost to Jaron Ennis in 2021 but he was able to show great fight yesterday, what you said seems to be true, because while during Omar focused more on anticipating the fighting style and also the weaknesses of Broner, but in the end what he learned before the fight started was in vain after Broner retreated and I think every fighter has different fighting styles and weaknesses as well as Broner and Sergey Lipinets.

Yes, all that month of preparation and training while studying Broner's movements in the ring was all wasted because Broner suddenly backed out from the fight and Lipinets was inserted to be the boxer to fight against Omar. So of course, that became a huge factore why Omar defeated because he didn't expected that and he didn't manage to watch Lipinets clips. If only Broner did fight, I'm quite sure that Omar has won. What do you think?

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August 24, 2022, 06:08:52 PM
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Not sure though why Ioka backed out, does anybody here know why?

It's because the Ancajas-Ioka fight is set on Japan. During that time, the date of their fight was still under the Japan's extension of their Covid-19 protocol in sports. That's the reason why the delay happened. Instead of totally delaying it and Ancajas will not fight, Martinez replaced Ioka and the rest is now history. if Ancajas still eager to fight Ioka, he needs to win on this rematch and reclaim the title he is holding for long before he loss.

Still over a month to go, we should trust Ancajas learned many things on that loss against Martinez.

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August 24, 2022, 08:56:10 PM
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It is not surprising because when a boxer is replaced at the last moment, all the training and preparation of the other boxer is wasted.  They (Figueroa) prepare a strategy against Broner but instead got Lipinet at the last moment.  If you remember the last fight of Paquiao the same thing happen, his camp prepare for the fighter replaced by Ugas but got Ugas at the last minute so Pacquiao have trouble adjusting during the fight and lost.
No one expected indeed if Sergey Lipinets could win the fight, no better than from Broner made me doubt if Sergey Lipinets would be able to throw Omar to the floor, especially when I saw the boxing history of Sergey Lipinets who just lost to Jaron Ennis in 2021 but he was able to show great fight yesterday, what you said seems to be true, because while during Omar focused more on anticipating the fighting style and also the weaknesses of Broner, but in the end what he learned before the fight started was in vain after Broner retreated and I think every fighter has different fighting styles and weaknesses as well as Broner and Sergey Lipinets.

Yes, all that month of preparation and training while studying Broner's movements in the ring was all wasted because Broner suddenly backed out from the fight and Lipinets was inserted to be the boxer to fight against Omar. So of course, that became a huge factore why Omar defeated because he didn't expected that and he didn't manage to watch Lipinets clips. If only Broner did fight, I'm quite sure that Omar has won. What do you think?

Possible, but if I'm not mistaken, Broner is also the favorite on that fight per odds so it could be a good battle.

As for the Ancajas vs Ioka supposedly fight, yes it was postponed initial due to Japan's Covid-19 restrictions, similar to GGG vs Murata, but it was rescheduled later. As opposed to maybe the camp of Ancajas, wanted Jerwin  to fight so they move to the US to look for opponents. Unfortunately, all the plans back fire on MP promotions as replacement fighter beat Jerwin so bad
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August 24, 2022, 10:39:38 PM
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We can't know that for sure because aside from the fact that Ancajas was struggling to catch the required weight, his trainings were originally made for Ioka and the team was studying the Japanese boxer's move for quite some time to help Ancajas win the fight but that didn't happen because of Ioka's sudden decision.

Yes, we can't be sure about the result but if that fight against Ioka happened, it might be hard for Ancajas to do exactly the strategy they formed against Ioka since he's not in his usual condition which his camp also admits. It's really stressful for the body to undergo force and rush training and works on his diet of maintaining weight especially if the weigh-in is now approaching.

Not sure though why Ioka backed out, does anybody here know why?

The response above is correct. It's because of the Omicron variant that hits Japan late last year. Since the venue will be in Japan, it got delayed. Also, the same case happened with GGG vs Murata fight that is postponed due to the virus as they also held their fight in Japan.

Ancajas unification fight vs Ioka in Japan postponed to 2022 due to Omicron

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August 25, 2022, 06:47:30 AM
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We can't know that for sure because aside from the fact that Ancajas was struggling to catch the required weight, his trainings were originally made for Ioka and the team was studying the Japanese boxer's move for quite some time to help Ancajas win the fight but that didn't happen because of Ioka's sudden decision.

Yes, we can't be sure about the result but if that fight against Ioka happened, it might be hard for Ancajas to do exactly the strategy they formed against Ioka since he's not in his usual condition which his camp also admits. It's really stressful for the body to undergo force and rush training and works on his diet of maintaining weight especially if the weigh-in is now approaching.

Not sure though why Ioka backed out, does anybody here know why?

The response above is correct. It's because of the Omicron variant that hits Japan late last year. Since the venue will be in Japan, it got delayed. Also, the same case happened with GGG vs Murata fight that is postponed due to the virus as they also held their fight in Japan.

Ancajas unification fight vs Ioka in Japan postponed to 2022 due to Omicron


Well, you guys might be right about that and Ancajas will struggle because of his situation at that time and might be defeated if in case his fight against Ioka were not postponed. Because of that, it'll be exciting to see them fight if Ancajas will succeed this time in grabbing the IBF back in his possession as Ioka is now holding the WBO belt.

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August 25, 2022, 02:29:23 PM
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And that is why Figueroa was really mad at Broner for pulling out at the last minutes because his preparations have been ruined. Anyhow, both Figueroa and Broner are past their primes to either way it's going to be a boring fight for boxing fans. This is Figueroa's last fight probably or if he continues to fight, he will be just the fighting for the money or just a stepping stone for young fighters. for Broner, not sure if he has contract or something with PBC or Showtime, but we might see the same, just 1 or 2 fights for him assuming he can get over his mental issues and then he is done with boxing.

That pretty much sucks for pulling out on a probable fight that could be lit, well Omar Figueroa Jr. is really pissed and frustrated right now after that much preparation, and surely he doesn't have much time and he wants to have a match with Broner very badly and he is asking for proof if Adrian Broner really has mental issues, because this is really upsetting for Omar Figueroa Jr. right now resulting to getting on social media to say what he wants,



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At least he realizes that he can't pull the trigger anymore and that his body is telling him to not fight anymore. He just had a daughter born to that's good if he will just enjoy his life with his family and hopefully he had save enough money to live a good life. And he mentioned about his mental issues as well, (bipolar) and he was able to overcome it.

Well, his body is really giving up from all those damages he is getting from combat sports like boxing, I can not explain it but Omar Figueroa Jr. really has a plan before he retires and that plan was all in the drain, he can not do it anymore so I could not explain how mad, pissed off, and frustrated he is right now if you would go to his social media accounts you can all see the level of anger he has for Broner because he had planned for this, another win before he retired and for Broner saying he has mental issue for a cover-up that is a very cheap explanation in getting out of the fight,
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August 25, 2022, 06:13:57 PM
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The same situation with Ancajas because he originally prepared for a title defense fight against Kazuto Ioka but was replaced last minute by Fernando Martinez and Ancajas ultimately lost the title he held for quite a long time. These instances can't be predicted because the original boxer wanted to participate in the fight but an issue surfaced later on which resulted in a need for a substitute just like this time.

Even if there's no sudden replacement, Jerwin Ancajas might probably still lose that supposed original fight.

The reason is very clear and it was stated by his team. Ancajas is not in good shape because of his hard training to catch the required weight. That resulted in him not performing on his usual and Ioka might take that as an advantage.

As I read on some reports, that's the focus now of Ancajas camp as they are really preparing seriously to get a win on a rematch against Martinez.

It's all speculation though, so 50/50. But if you look at some fights that have their opponent replaced, there are fights that the replacement fighter won or not. Not sure what is the statistics though or if there is one in the internet.

Nevertheless for Jerwin and his camp, they should treat it as a learning experience, a learning curve that they need to overcome right now if Jerwin wanted to became a world champion again and chase more like Ioka in the future.

You're right, we can speculate all we want but that will still leaves us to the point where we can't know the answer because the fight didn't happen because of that Covid that's why Ioka had to give the spot for Martinez and ultimately, Ancajas lost the fight because of that sudden change.

Anyway, Jerwin already have some knowledge now how to counter Martinez's punches or even outmatch the latter. Let's just hope too that Jerwin wouldn't experience the same situation he was in on their first encounter because I heard that he was struggling to make the required weight.

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August 25, 2022, 06:35:43 PM
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It is not surprising because when a boxer is replaced at the last moment, all the training and preparation of the other boxer is wasted.  They (Figueroa) prepare a strategy against Broner but instead got Lipinet at the last moment.  If you remember the last fight of Paquiao the same thing happen, his camp prepare for the fighter replaced by Ugas but got Ugas at the last minute so Pacquiao have trouble adjusting during the fight and lost.
No one expected indeed if Sergey Lipinets could win the fight, no better than from Broner made me doubt if Sergey Lipinets would be able to throw Omar to the floor, especially when I saw the boxing history of Sergey Lipinets who just lost to Jaron Ennis in 2021 but he was able to show great fight yesterday, what you said seems to be true, because while during Omar focused more on anticipating the fighting style and also the weaknesses of Broner, but in the end what he learned before the fight started was in vain after Broner retreated and I think every fighter has different fighting styles and weaknesses as well as Broner and Sergey Lipinets.

Yes, all that month of preparation and training while studying Broner's movements in the ring was all wasted because Broner suddenly backed out from the fight and Lipinets was inserted to be the boxer to fight against Omar. So of course, that became a huge factore why Omar defeated because he didn't expected that and he didn't manage to watch Lipinets clips. If only Broner did fight, I'm quite sure that Omar has won. What do you think?

Possible, but if I'm not mistaken, Broner is also the favorite on that fight per odds so it could be a good battle.

As for the Ancajas vs Ioka supposedly fight, yes it was postponed initial due to Japan's Covid-19 restrictions, similar to GGG vs Murata, but it was rescheduled later. As opposed to maybe the camp of Ancajas, wanted Jerwin  to fight so they move to the US to look for opponents. Unfortunately, all the plans back fire on MP promotions as replacement fighter beat Jerwin so bad

Yes, I think AB was the favorite on the list of the sports bookies on that fight but I haven't had the time to look up that time because I wasn't interested at all on their match-up hehe. Good thing though that GGG didn't got a back-up fighter that time because Murata had the similar situation to Ioka as they lived in the same country, anyway, I can say that GGG will still have a good shot if that happened but fortunately, it didn't.

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August 25, 2022, 06:42:08 PM
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And that is why Figueroa was really mad at Broner for pulling out at the last minutes because his preparations have been ruined. Anyhow, both Figueroa and Broner are past their primes to either way it's going to be a boring fight for boxing fans. This is Figueroa's last fight probably or if he continues to fight, he will be just the fighting for the money or just a stepping stone for young fighters. for Broner, not sure if he has contract or something with PBC or Showtime, but we might see the same, just 1 or 2 fights for him assuming he can get over his mental issues and then he is done with boxing.

That pretty much sucks for pulling out on a probable fight that could be lit, well Omar Figueroa Jr. is really pissed and frustrated right now after that much preparation, and surely he doesn't have much time and he wants to have a match with Broner very badly and he is asking for proof if Adrian Broner really has mental issues, because this is really upsetting for Omar Figueroa Jr. right now resulting to getting on social media to say what he wants,

Not sure though if Broner or someone in his camp cared to give some evidence that proves he has some mental issues that's why he backed out from that fight. Who wouldn't be so pissed about that? Grin You've allocated all your time and effort for a certain boxer to study his moves in the ring and Figueroa is really looking forward to fight Broner in the same ring but unfortunately, Broner turns his back on him.

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August 25, 2022, 09:18:00 PM
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Anyway, Jerwin already have some knowledge now how to counter Martinez's punches or even outmatch the latter. Let's just hope too that Jerwin wouldn't experience the same situation he was in on their first encounter because I heard that he was struggling to make the required weight.

Hopefully, Jerwin won't slack this time since he doesn't have any more reason why he will lose a fight.  I bet Ancajas will be fully prepared this time.  I believe Ancajas underestimated Martinez in their first fight since Martinez is just a replacement but surprised him that Martinez is a tough opponent and even beat him in speed.  But first thing first, I hope Jerwin won't have any problem on their weigh-in.

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August 25, 2022, 11:31:26 PM
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And that is why Figueroa was really mad at Broner for pulling out at the last minutes because his preparations have been ruined. Anyhow, both Figueroa and Broner are past their primes to either way it's going to be a boring fight for boxing fans. This is Figueroa's last fight probably or if he continues to fight, he will be just the fighting for the money or just a stepping stone for young fighters. for Broner, not sure if he has contract or something with PBC or Showtime, but we might see the same, just 1 or 2 fights for him assuming he can get over his mental issues and then he is done with boxing.

That pretty much sucks for pulling out on a probable fight that could be lit, well Omar Figueroa Jr. is really pissed and frustrated right now after that much preparation, and surely he doesn't have much time and he wants to have a match with Broner very badly and he is asking for proof if Adrian Broner really has mental issues, because this is really upsetting for Omar Figueroa Jr. right now resulting to getting on social media to say what he wants,

Not sure though if Broner or someone in his camp cared to give some evidence that proves he has some mental issues that's why he backed out from that fight. Who wouldn't be so pissed about that? Grin You've allocated all your time and effort for a certain boxer to study his moves in the ring and Figueroa is really looking forward to fight Broner in the same ring but unfortunately, Broner turns his back on him.

Oh well, we really will not know the real reasons for now, maybe they just said to the organizations that AB has mental issues and can't be bothered and so he wanted to cancel the fight, so it is what it is. This could be the new norm of excuses if fighters just wake up and doesn't what to fight anymore. For sure Broner will get a lot of judgement on this one. Specially on his style and arrogant and self-important this guy is when promoting his fight.

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August 26, 2022, 06:05:18 AM
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It is not surprising because when a boxer is replaced at the last moment, all the training and preparation of the other boxer is wasted.  They (Figueroa) prepare a strategy against Broner but instead got Lipinet at the last moment.  If you remember the last fight of Paquiao the same thing happen, his camp prepare for the fighter replaced by Ugas but got Ugas at the last minute so Pacquiao have trouble adjusting during the fight and lost.
No one expected indeed if Sergey Lipinets could win the fight, no better than from Broner made me doubt if Sergey Lipinets would be able to throw Omar to the floor, especially when I saw the boxing history of Sergey Lipinets who just lost to Jaron Ennis in 2021 but he was able to show great fight yesterday, what you said seems to be true, because while during Omar focused more on anticipating the fighting style and also the weaknesses of Broner, but in the end what he learned before the fight started was in vain after Broner retreated and I think every fighter has different fighting styles and weaknesses as well as Broner and Sergey Lipinets.

Yes, all that month of preparation and training while studying Broner's movements in the ring was all wasted because Broner suddenly backed out from the fight and Lipinets was inserted to be the boxer to fight against Omar. So of course, that became a huge factore why Omar defeated because he didn't expected that and he didn't manage to watch Lipinets clips. If only Broner did fight, I'm quite sure that Omar has won. What do you think?

Possible, but if I'm not mistaken, Broner is also the favorite on that fight per odds so it could be a good battle.

As for the Ancajas vs Ioka supposedly fight, yes it was postponed initial due to Japan's Covid-19 restrictions, similar to GGG vs Murata, but it was rescheduled later. As opposed to maybe the camp of Ancajas, wanted Jerwin  to fight so they move to the US to look for opponents. Unfortunately, all the plans back fire on MP promotions as replacement fighter beat Jerwin so bad

Right? That could be a good match to bet though because Broner favorite among sports bookies because I believe that Omar Figueroa has more chances of winning the fight than the Broner who fights like he is doing some exhibition fights. Anyway, haven't had the chance to follow this fight but it's good thing too because the fight between these two didn't happen because Broner withdrew and it was Lipinets who fought Omar.

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As opposed to maybe the camp of Ancajas, wanted Jerwin  to fight so they move to the US to look for opponents. Unfortunately, all the plans back fire on MP promotions as replacement fighter beat Jerwin so bad
That's the disadvantage of rushing things because having a replacement with only little time of preparation will indeed make you struggle and will just lower the chances of winning and then there's this weight issues of Ancajas that he had to solve. Bottomline, they should solve their own problems first before solving other problems.

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August 26, 2022, 09:07:23 AM
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Not sure though if Broner or someone in his camp cared to give some evidence that proves he has some mental issues that's why he backed out from that fight. Who wouldn't be so pissed about that? Grin You've allocated all your time and effort for a certain boxer to study his moves in the ring and Figueroa is really looking forward to fight Broner in the same ring but unfortunately, Broner turns his back on him.

Oh well, we really will not know the real reasons for now, maybe they just said to the organizations that AB has mental issues and can't be bothered and so he wanted to cancel the fight, so it is what it is. This could be the new norm of excuses if fighters just wake up and doesn't what to fight anymore. For sure Broner will get a lot of judgement on this one. Specially on his style and arrogant and self-important this guy is when promoting his fight.
Evidence should be provided or if not there should be penalties that must be imposed.
I read an article before that Figueroa's camp has some evidence that Broner is not really in a bad mental state.
He even called it just a reason to "cop out".
I guess this is the next bad reasoning after the Covid. Figueroa's fans are still not satisfied with what happened (loss to Lipinets) and all the blame are on what Broner did. I guess it really sucks to prepare at a full blow for your real match but will end up fighting a different boxer.

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August 26, 2022, 09:13:44 AM
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We can't know that for sure because aside from the fact that Ancajas was struggling to catch the required weight, his trainings were originally made for Ioka and the team was studying the Japanese boxer's move for quite some time to help Ancajas win the fight but that didn't happen because of Ioka's sudden decision.

Yes, we can't be sure about the result but if that fight against Ioka happened, it might be hard for Ancajas to do exactly the strategy they formed against Ioka since he's not in his usual condition which his camp also admits. It's really stressful for the body to undergo force and rush training and works on his diet of maintaining weight especially if the weigh-in is now approaching.

Not sure though why Ioka backed out, does anybody here know why?

The response above is correct. It's because of the Omicron variant that hits Japan late last year. Since the venue will be in Japan, it got delayed. Also, the same case happened with GGG vs Murata fight that is postponed due to the virus as they also held their fight in Japan.

Ancajas unification fight vs Ioka in Japan postponed to 2022 due to Omicron


Well, you guys might be right about that and Ancajas will struggle because of his situation at that time and might be defeated if in case his fight against Ioka were not postponed. Because of that, it'll be exciting to see them fight if Ancajas will succeed this time in grabbing the IBF back in his possession as Ioka is now holding the WBO belt.
He suffers from defeat with Martinez. I also believe that if that fight didn't postpone, he might lose with Ioka too; he need to prepare harder now to reclaim his belt then move and push that challenged against Ioka, that will be a much more interesting fight knowing that Ioka is really a hot fighter currently, he's on his prime right now and if in case Ancajas wins against Martinez, it would be nice to see him chasing against Ioka, they both can test each other inside the ring and see if who'll be the winner.

Let's wait for the outcome of these upcoming fights between Ancajas and Martinez, another entertaining rematch, since both will try to
beat one another and claim the title.

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August 26, 2022, 09:18:15 AM
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Not sure though if Broner or someone in his camp cared to give some evidence that proves he has some mental issues that's why he backed out from that fight. Who wouldn't be so pissed about that? Grin You've allocated all your time and effort for a certain boxer to study his moves in the ring and Figueroa is really looking forward to fight Broner in the same ring but unfortunately, Broner turns his back on him.

Oh well, we really will not know the real reasons for now, maybe they just said to the organizations that AB has mental issues and can't be bothered and so he wanted to cancel the fight, so it is what it is. This could be the new norm of excuses if fighters just wake up and doesn't what to fight anymore. For sure Broner will get a lot of judgement on this one. Specially on his style and arrogant and self-important this guy is when promoting his fight.
Evidence should be provided or if not there should be penalties that must be imposed.
I read an article before that Figueroa's camp has some evidence that Broner is not really in a bad mental state.
He even called it just a reason to "cop out".
I guess this is the next bad reasoning after the Covid. Figueroa's fans are still not satisfied with what happened (loss to Lipinets) and all the blame are on what Broner did. I guess it really sucks to prepare at a full blow for your real match but will end up fighting a different boxer.

I think, Figueroa's camp should let things go.  Besides, it is their own incompetence that made them lose the fight.  It does suck to have the opponent replaced at the last moment but if the fight goes the other way around and Figueroa's won the fight, I doubt there will be an issue like this.  Besides, both fighters had given the same amount of time for preparation for the strategy since both fighters are notified at the same time.  

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