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1621  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / The Best Wallet/App for a small Cafe in the UK? on: October 09, 2016, 09:24:55 AM
A friend wants to accept Bitcoin in her small UK cafe. She has an Android phone, is non tech but not stupid, and would want to run it solely off that.
Amounts will be small, £5 ish per transaction and she would want to transfer periodically to a cold wallet.
It must be non centralized with private keys private to her.
Recommendations please?
EDIT
I should have made clear that there will be only one point of payment, at the counter when orders are placed with the owner, so no necessity for involvement of any staff in the process. Pure 1P to 1P.
We're thinking simple and easy here, minimalist but obviously secure.








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1622  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Who are they on: October 09, 2016, 06:22:48 AM
This site is only set up to scam people of their money though they claimed to be i Germany but i doubt that seriously, it will be better to avoid dealing with them.

Thanks for your valuable Yobit spam input.
How come you get paid for repeating what everyone else says when you have neg trust?
1623  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Lara with me - Grow your Bitcoin capital with 3% daily profit. on: October 09, 2016, 06:11:21 AM

Oh but c'mon man. You are responsible yourself for what you do with your money. If you put money in it and you don't know this is a Ponzi scheme, then you are a total retard. I put money in it 2-3 months ago. It was quite new back then. That's the time to invest in it. And I put 260 $ Steemit money into it because I didn't trust it but I thought it was worth a gamble. But there are really idiots that will put 1000s of dollars into it at the end of the Ponzi scheme. These people are really stupid. But stupid or not, they are responsible themselves for being so dumb.

That's alright then, it's ok to help the scammers who run LARA to rip people off, because they are "total retards" and "dumb".

This scam was always dependent on Telegram turning a blind eye to their service being used by HYIP scumbags and, surprisingly in a world full of greedy fucks like you, they appear to have grown some balls and are blocking auto payments.

The LARA admin are all butthurt
"How dare they fuck up our scam?"
 Cheesy


Quote
LARA WITH ME
2 hrs ·
INSTANT IS TEMPORARY OFF. PAYOUTS PROCEED MANUALLY
ALL THE PARTICIPANTS HELP NEEDED!
We have to inform you that for some reason we are not able to proceed any payouts automatically via bot API right now, for that reason we do payouts manually with our hands. Instant mode is OFF for all the requests above $20. Please be patient so we can work with your requests.
The thing is that some functionality of or LARA bot was blocked by telegram.org directly.
It might be caused by the collective abuse of @newschannel which was trying to spread rumors across the chats talking bad about our community.
So far we know those guys were sending constant collective request to (removed) which was reviewed and affected LARA bot. And few days before that, they were claiming to be an official telegram channel (starting their new “mission” with a first LARA article) what a coincidence, right?
Despite the fact of non stop constant payments, amazing growth and 100K active users around the globe, telegram decided to agree with those people which I’m sure provided close to zero proofs of their claims.
We don’t know why that channel feels to #destroylara (yes yes, they use that hashtag) but simply because everybody gets paid and making money it is not a good thing to attack us that way.
By doing such actions we want to tell one simple fact – people from this channel @newschannel and administration in a face of @ContactTheAdminBot , not partially, but fully responsible for what’s happening right now.

What forced those individuals to act that way – we don’t know. Did they fully comprehend that people invested millions of dollars via LARA bot? Possibly. Do they really want to “bring the justice”? I doubt. Seemed like a good try to get some views on the channel.
We completely understand that Telegram.org administration cares so much about telegram community, but we ask for logical and rational decisions. If people say bad things – does not mean that they don’t have their dark reasons behind it.
We ask to ALL THE PARTICIPANTS of Lara send a collective vote to (removed) with a request of removing all the “scam” texts from the @lara_with_me_bot , open all the functionality so it can be fully operational with no restrictions.
Provide your results and success stories so Telegram can see that LARA pays!
LARA is not some sort of a “shady scheme” it is a community which was able to change many lives! We want to continue making this world better and we need a support from ALL OF YOU!
We need it back and we can do it together.

#destroylara

#ScammersHaveRightsToo
1624  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: LARA with ME Review [PAYING] on: October 09, 2016, 05:53:24 AM
Portfolio of Lara



LOL, that's a portfolio?

Looks like this shit has nearly had it, back under its rock soon.
It was always totally dependent on Telegram facilitating it, and they're not going to want a reputation as just another playground for Russian HYIP scumbags, hence



 
1625  Other / Meta / Re: paying to post in threads on: October 06, 2016, 12:00:52 PM

Yeah, and if you accept payment to post positively about something that turns out to be a scam, you'll get your account trashed with red trust.
Manipulation of public perception of your project/scheme/whatever by buying false feedback is a standard scammer tactic and completely different to signature campaign payments.
1626  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [FRAUD] TX3 Arbitrage tx3.co is an investment scam using fake credentials on: October 05, 2016, 08:42:50 PM

Just a bump with a couple of pretty pictures, one fake, one real.
The fake comes from TX3's totally made up Facebook page, the real one from a photo gallery site in India.
The Facebook page is laughably unreal, 9,900+ bought 'likes', but no more than one or two for each padding post.





Jury's out on TrustPilot, they say they are investigating TX3 but haven't pulled their obviously fake listing yet.

Got a couple of other enquiries being answered soon, but apart from meaningless FB updates, this scam looks pretty dead in the water....
1627  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Who are they on: October 05, 2016, 11:02:59 AM

@OP

I told you here a week ago that Atelcominer are a scam.
So do your own research and stop linking to them.
1628  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Cloudminingindex (beta) - THE GAME WITH REAL CLOUD MININGS on: October 05, 2016, 10:32:51 AM
Calling it a 'game' and not an investment seems like a half hearted attempt to deny any responsibility when it goes wrong.

To be fair tho, Bitfury has confirmed to me that Hashing24.com are legitimate customers of theirs.
That doesn't mean that these people are legit customers of Hashing24 tho....
Even if they are, that doesn't mean I'd put a satoshi in this "game" either because

Hashing24 offers 1 Th/s for 0.125 BTC, $76.71 at $613.
1 Th/s will mine 0.00104 BTC a day, $0.64 a day at $613.
Maintenance is $0.57 a day per Th/s, leaving $0.07 a day profit.
That's 1097 days to get your investment back.

It seems obvious that these "aggregators" either can't add up, or their 110% ROI per year is purely dependent on the Ponzi scams in their "portfolio" with the real mining added for credibility of the name.
1629  Economy / Scam Accusations / DASCOIN, another outbreak of the Onecoin strain of MLM Virus. on: October 05, 2016, 09:35:17 AM

That's virus as in contagious and dangerous scamming methods, not as in malware on your hard disk.

The Onecoin model of bullshit "cryptocurrency" married to a hard sell MLM pyramid is attracting several copycats, Leocoin, Capricoin, Swisscoin and Swiscoin amongst many others.
These have notional products, for example "Education Packages" which are neccessary purchases to become involved in the MLM pyramid, and receive commissions based on the number of people you recruit into the scheme after you.
This type of marketing has been around for years, but the crypto angle which is now being exploited involves a centrally administered "coin" being produced by the scammers and hyped to be "The Bitcoin Killer" or other such nonsense. These coins invariably can only be traded in a scheme back office, or on a rigidly controlled basis (usually huge pre-mine) on shit exchanges.
Gullible real "investors" soon realise they are locked into the scheme and all they have bought is promises of Da Moon from chronic MLM promoters like J Ryan Conley and the Onecoin Mafia.

The latest in this shower of shit is DAScoin, operated by Coinleaders, a Singapore/Dubai/Hong Kong based collection of MLM veterans.
My good friend Oz at BehindMLM.com has posted an accurate review of this scheme, of which I quote an edited version below

The Coin Leaders website states that the company is operated by CL Singapore Pte. Ltd., which is based in Singapore.
CL Singapore is wholly owned by Coin Leadership Limited, based in Dubai.

John Pretto (nice teeth) is identified as Chairman of Coin Leaders.




Quote from: coinleaders
John Pretto is an accomplished, innovative and entrepreneurial technologist with over 20 years of senior management experience in information technology, marketing and operations.

Past positions include serving as Chief Technology Officer for R66T (enterprise Wi-Fi), Chief Operating Officer for ComF5 (formerly DigitalFX – digital media marketing platform), CTO and Co-founder of HelloNetwork (streaming media technology), and VP of Technology for SmartConnect (video surveillance for gaming).

On the MLM side of things John Pretto was actively promoting the OneCoin Ponzi scheme last year. Before OneCoin Pretto was promoting Nuverus (nutrition). Pretto appears to have gotten involved in OneCoin in early to mid 2015.

Coin Leaders has no retailable products or services, with affiliates only able to market Coin Leaders affiliate membership itself.
Coin Leaders affiliates invest up to €25,000 in DasCoin, a “hybrid cryptocurrency” run by Hong Kong based DasCoin Limited, in exchange for their investment, Coin Leaders affiliates receive a “software license”.

Quote from: scammers
These software licenses makes it easy for anyone to receive cryptocurrency – directly from the source.
There’s no need to buy coins on a currency exchange, or get involved with the complexities and hassles of a cryptocurrency “mining” process.
Instead, CoinLeader software enables you to help build the distributed network (on which DasCoin operates) and receive DasCoins in return.

Everything is done for you!

The more funds invested into software licenses, the higher the assigned value to DasCoin.
Through their software "license", Coin Leaders affiliates receive DasCoins via “cycles”.

Quote
As an incentive for providing Cycles to the network, each licensee is rewarded with an amount of DasCoin calibrated to the level of the licensee’s contribution.

In a nutshell, the more a Coin Leaders affiliate invests the more DasCoin they receive.

Standard – invest €100 EUR and receive 1265 cycles and 1 upgrade
Manager – invest €500 EUR and receive 6325 cycles and 1 upgrade
Pro – invest €2000 EUR and receive 27,600 cycles and 1 upgrade
Executive – invest €5000 EUR and receive 74,750 cycles and 2 upgrades
President – invest €25,000 EUR and receive 373,750 cycles and 3 upgrades
An upgrade is triggered when the rate of cycles converted into DasCoins drops below 50% efficiency (from a starting point of 100 efficiency).

When an upgrade is triggered Coin Leaders affiliate cycles that have not yet been converted into DasCoins are doubled.
Coin Leaders affiliate membership is tied to an initial investment of between €100 and €25,000 EUR.

Coin Leaders is pretty much John Pretto’s attempt at the OneCoin Ponzi business model.

Affiliates invest in “cycles” (OneCoin tokens), which are converted into DasCoin (OneCoins), which are assigned an arbitrary value by DasCoin, a centralized authority.

DasCoin itself is not publicly tradeable and can only be acquired through Coin Leaders investment.
The Coin Leaders website identifies the CEO of DasCoin Limited as Michael Mathias, surprise surprise, Mathias is/was also a OneCoin affiliate.

Coin Leaders and DasCoin present the usual comparisons to legitimate cryptocurrencies and crap about external use of the coin through a merchant network.
The reality however is that Coin Leaders and DasCoin offer up nothing more than a Ponzi pyramid hybrid.

SOP means that purchase at the most expensive entry point is heavily encouraged by impossible maths

Quote from: bullsit and nonsense
Our premiere license … provides an unparalleled combination of benefits and yields rewards that are a 10x magnitude greater than even the Executive License!

The Ponzi element of Coin Leaders is the investment of funds which are converted into DasCoins. The value of DasCoin is assigned by DasCoin Limited, the company running the point-generation script that spits out DasCoins.
The value of DasCoins is pegged to nothing more than the rate of investment from Coin Leaders affiliates.
Affiliates cash DasCoins through Coin Leaders, who use newly invested funds to pay off existing investors.
Albeit convoluted in an attempt to pose as a legitimate cryptocurrency, this is nonetheless the definition of a Ponzi scheme.

Coin Leaders’ pyramid layer is found in its referral commissions, wherein affiliates are paid to recruit new affiliate investors.
Referral commissions are paid out of funds invested by newly recruited affiliates.

As with all Ponzi schemes, once recruitment of new affiliate investors dries up Coin Leaders will collapse.



Why should I waste time and effort writing about this crap, it's not "real" crypto? I hear you ask.
Very true, but that's why I think it's important to distance genuine efforts at an alternative financial system based on cryptocurrency, from the Old World MLM scammers using this "New Opportunity" to rip people off.
Also some say, "You're giving them publicity."
Possibly true, but hits for these scam analyses on BCT usually hit page one on Google searches....

Also importantly in my view, shit sticks.
Every time someone gets ripped off by something thought to be in the cryptosphere, some know nothing regulator or authority will get it into their head that "These things must be controlled/outlawed" and they start with the most visible, Bitcoin.

1630  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scam alert : Do NOT INVEST in Genesis Mining on: October 05, 2016, 08:31:21 AM
Zeta0S, still waiting for those screenshots of your mining income to prove you achieved ROI. Stop shilling and present evidence!

I did never said i will post screen shots of my personal contracts. I am also not required to do so.



No, you're not required to shill either.
It seems fairly obvious that your only motivation for posting these "Genesis is great!" comments is to earn your grubby 3% referral commission.
Your credibility on this subject is zero.
And pls, no more "Why are you so angry?" pm's, thanks.

Ironically, on the other thread I have posted some rough calculations which indicate that Genesis's maintenance charges are at least logical.
Anyone want to check the math out and comment, feel free.
I stress that I in no way recommend any cloud mining "investment" period.
1631  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Genesis-mining.com || World's leading hashpower provider! on: October 05, 2016, 07:37:43 AM
lol maybe you should work for genesis, you have the same big business "but we didn't do any thing TECHNICALLY ILLEGAL"   legal garble that got everyone ripped off by them in the first place
i see it much simpler. they are rich, we lost money.  no sense suger coating to blame the victims, this isn't your social media site

Listen, I'm no shill for Genesis or big business and personally think that cloud mining is to be avoided at all costs.
Sure, people are pissed that they're getting dust from their Genesis contracts and I don't blame them in the slightest.
What I'm saying with the above guesstimations is that their maintenance charges seem consistent with the actual increase in the cost of mining and don't seem to be a scam in themselves.
There's never been a Free Money Machine ever, and ASIC's operated by someone else definitely ain't.
1632  Economy / Economics / Re: Brexit - why is Sterling dropping on: October 04, 2016, 09:45:28 PM

Pick the bottom

1633  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Genesis-mining.com || World's leading hashpower provider! on: October 04, 2016, 09:26:48 PM
The maintenance fee is based on actual costs, not on chance or BTC value. That's why it is charged in USD, since the costs to us are charged in USD as well.

Are my maths right, that maintenance fee translates to a cost of about $336 to mine a coin?

It takes more than 0.5 BTC to mine 1 BTC. No wonder they are so profitable. They are reusing power from customers who had their contracts terminated.



Just for the fun of it, I went back to this interview to see how the make up of the Genesis maintenance fee has changed in the last year (since that article in August 15).

Making a couple of suppositions, basically that both then and now they are use the best mining gear available...

In August 2015, Mr. Streng said it cost Genesis ~$60 in electricity to mine one coin, and another $128 in general overhead/fixed costs, a total of $188.
Their maintenance fee then was $0.0015 per Gh/s or $160 per coin, or a ~90% contribution to the total operational costs involved in mining one coin (worth $235).

Supposition One:
If they were using S7 equivalents (new out then) then that would have meant an electricity cost of ~ $0.09 k/Wh.
There's no reason to suspect that unit Icelandic electricity costs have increased over the last year
Supposition Two:
If they are using ~ 0.1 J/Ghs gear now, still paying $0.09, then it now costs Genesis $207 in electricity to mine a coin.
(Difficulty has increased by ~500% and rewards have halved, but miner efficiency has increased)

So, in that year, power cost for Genesis to mine one BTC has increased by $147.
There is no reason to expect fixed costs to have increased, so now it's a total operational cost to Genesis of $335 to produce one BTC, or virtually the same as their current maintenance fee.

From this admittedly loose data, you could say that Genesis have been consistent in charging a maintenance fee that covers their costs.
The fact that customers' net income doesn't live up to hopes is one thing, but calling Genesis scammers solely because of their maintenance charges seems to have no basis in fact.


1634  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Blockchain Invest Fund Scam or Legit?? on: October 03, 2016, 05:44:41 PM
This scam has been about for at least two years.
Looks like our unfortunate
Quote
i've lost hundred of dollars investing in cloud mining,hyip,doubler and financial investment.
three post newbie has been done again....


https://blockchain.info/address/1BLockKo8FLApX2Wx7rJXv9C3bk9FJPzJj
1635  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Genesis-mining.com || World's leading hashpower provider! on: October 03, 2016, 03:31:31 PM
The maintenance fee is based on actual costs, not on chance or BTC value. That's why it is charged in USD, since the costs to us are charged in USD as well.

Are my maths right, that maintenance fee translates to a cost of about $336 to mine a coin?
1636  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CJ] CryptoJacksCoin-X13 POW/POS| CJ ICO Round #5 in Progress !!! on: October 02, 2016, 05:59:07 AM

A pretty cool coin from a quick look.

Any idea why some shitty pyramid cash gifting scam is talking about using CyptoJacks? Where's the connexion?
1637  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: AsicMinermarket.com - potential scam on: October 01, 2016, 08:12:47 PM
NO scam here guys i used them many time .. so come on give stop this bullshit?Huh?

have you checked your info first or are you just blowing smoke from your arse?Huh?

Post some proof or STFU, $40k newbie.
1638  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: I closed up BitcoinStarter.com today on: October 01, 2016, 07:30:07 PM

That's a shame, you gave it a good go.

Unfortunately the wind is blowing in the wrong direction for simple, honest projects to be community/crowd funded.
The mania for moar moar moar means badly nailed together scams with a predatory MLM funding structure attached (and posing as "crowdfunding") are the Brave New World, G-d help us all.
1639  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: can you trade forex without technical analysis? on: September 30, 2016, 06:29:37 PM
Of course you can trade anything without technical analysis, just press the buttons randomly....

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-hedge-fund-geniuses-got-beaten-by-monkeys-again-2015-06-25

Seriously tho, TA has a money management value as well as providing entry points for trades.
The problem I have with "fundamental" analysis trading is how to ascribe a % move value to a specific piece of news or data. 
1640  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Building miner on: September 29, 2016, 06:23:47 PM
Good luck, maybe think about GPU mining?
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