My very simple, immediately implementable solution in that other thread was drowned in a sea of complexity of merits, bumping time limits, payments, algos etc.
Here it is again.
The [ANN] topics should remain static, schemes stay listed chronologically as they are originally posted. When a user wants to see what's new, the front page will tell him at a glance.
Every new offering gets longer front page "new scheme here" exposure, bumping is nullified and users can follow threads of interest by bookmarking them. 
Cheating by duplication could be dealt with by allowing only accredited representatives of the actual scheme to start its single [ANN] thread, which would also make the OP responsible for verifying any information given in it.

Just what the world needs.

Here's a few threads infested with bots from the same service.
I got left negative trust by the ETH777 manager/shill for my critique of NELUNS.

Evencoin
Neluns
Sexycam
ETH777
SafeInsure

There's also a related meta thread which has got buried in the shit somewhere.
Their spinning is sophisticated enough to avoid (self) plagiarism and mods have proved to be reluctant to delete posts en masse previously, so I gave up reporting them.

The middle three on that list are also self moderated, which means about 300 pages of echoing shills, with any other POV silenced.
How far from the initial function of a forum thread have we travelled, to get to this?

I'll go dutch with you on that.

Source: https://www.americascardroom.eu/poker-blog/2017/12/poker-pro-giving-away-25-bitcoin-for-christmas/

Also:
http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=436505

He played poker in Edinburgh (Scotland)

http://www.globalpokerindex.com/poker-players/dean-nolan-619663/

"Dean Nolan" is a credibly Scottish name.

No, they are just lying scammers, no need to overthink it.
The Companies House address is basically real, just one postcode out (I have reported it), but the website address is totally fictitious.
Oxford Street is one of the most famous shopping streets in Central London, #24 being an old building address which has been reconstructed over the years and is now part of a huge department store @ 14-29 Oxford St, trading as Primark.
+44 5782379645 is not a valid UK phone number either.

Total scam, badly constructed.

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I'm sure you do.
I actually treat a UK company registration as a red flag.
UK registration + .io or .biz address = 99% sure scam.

They don't have a UK "licence", they have a six week old UK registered company which is a very easy and cheap process with very few checks being made. Many scammers do this as UK registration is seen by people as somehow imputing legitimacy.
The capital is unpaid and the principal, Tamera Jackson is probably fictitious.

Your street view search is incorrect, your screengrab shows Oxford Street not Oxford Road.
Although the address postcode does not match the street, it is probably in an area of South London known as Crystal Palace and refers to a 3 bedroom private house in the neighbouring postcode SE19 3JH

The whole concept of paying bounty hunters in tokens is flawed, it just sort of grew in the madness environment that was the ICO bubble.
The difference with NELUNS is the fiction that they raised far far more than they actually did, and they are trapped in that lie.
IF there had have been any real institutional interest in this shit token, then obviously sophisticated investors would have been waiting for the mass bounty dumping to take place to increase their stakes at minimal cost.
If I had put $1m into some ICO tokens @ say $0.75 because I believed in the project, I'd be damned sure to be scooping up the known quantity of dumped bounty tokens that become temporarily available @ $0.00X after it closes.
In this case, there are no buyers and never have been.
When the few bounty hunters that have paid to get their tokens have dumped, NELUNS will no doubt pump the price because they can, effectively having become their own bagholders.
It's a real fuckup, run by "morons..."

They're rather similar, certainly.
 @alexajoan was a temporary admin for handling bounty issues on the NELUNS Telegram site until she fucked up and disappeared "back to SF" at the end of her "temporary contract".
I pulled that pic from her Telegram thumbnail.
Given NELUNS professed hatred for Russians, I hope she is not buried in the basement of some NY office/Texas shooting gallery....

 
I love that phrase, "I'll shoot you a moron", I had to Google it to see if I'd missed any Street Talk developments but no, it's pure NELUNSspeak. Just the sort of  comms you'd expect from an Exec at a


License to Kill?

 

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HNY Bruno 

Who could forget the beautiful @alexajoan, the bounty manager who knows no math



But she came from San Fransisco (she said), whereas we know that "Leslie"



is from Texas I believe 



But irl, they probably look more like this

I hope everyone had a good Christmas/Winter Solstice holiday.
It's traditionally (where I live) a time to give gifts and presents, but for the scamming bags of shit behind NELUNS a time to steal, lie and defraud their Bounty hunters.
Let's have look at the situation...
Because the NELUNS scam was so poorly constructed and timed, the ICO was a colossal failure.
No-one believes their nonsense about millions being raised from institutions, they even had to invent one to support this pretense. The Manhattan Blockchain invention sums these scammers up: clumsy amateurs, stupid and easily found out in their lies.




No proof of any dollars, no Bitcoin, just 639 ETH. That's it.
639*250 (average ETH value) = $159,750 collected.
With the discounts, that's maybe 200,000 tokens legitimately sold to people who, for their own reasons, decided to buy into this nonsense.
So, what have the scammers got? A few dollars (if they got out of ETH quick enough) and Tokens, millions of worthless tokens...
~200,000 sold out of 200,000,000, 13,500,000 tokens owed to bounty hunters, leaves the scammers with about 186,300,000 useless pieces of nothing.
They know that there will be literally no buyers for this crap when they go to exchange so, Q: what to do?
A #1: Fuck over the bounty hunters.

Move the release date from October to December for bullshit reasons which change daily.
KYC.. yes/no/maybe?
Accuse any questioners of being haters and ban/rob them.
Move the dates to end March.
Lie about exchanges.
Lie about bounty scamming "Russians" (what problem do they have, this obssession with Russians?¹ Let's look at that later..)

And the Final Solution... CHARGE bounty hunters 1000%'s inflated "fees" to get their tokens. They know that most bounty hunters have no money, that's why they do bounties and airdrops. Also of course, as soon as any tokens find their way to the joke exchange, they will be worth less than the redemption cost.


When asked how they can justify doing these charge ripoffs, they say



HAHAHA.
Let's get one thing straight, NELUNS is not, and never will be, a Bank. The scammers are believing their own invention and lies, bad sign.
How about Exchanges?
The Road Map (an insult to Road Maps everywhere), listed every Big Name exchange they could think of.
Nothing happened.
They did a vote on Telegram, the 1% of members that are actually real voted from a list of shit for two listings.
Nothing happened.
Everybody must wait for the NELUNS own exchange, which doesn't exist.
Nothing happened.
List on some brand new basement Chinese Exchange, the same day as announcing end February.
Price pumped by NELUNS to $3 on no volume.
Lie about big exchange listing in the future.
A few bounty tokens get released and sold on Bitc3, naturally crashing the price to nothing.
AT THE TIME OF WRITING THIS


The "Manhattan Blockchain Fund's anchor $1.5million Investment" is worth, at market, around $390...



What do they do? What can they do?
They're scammers with a dead scam. They probably owe money to the sort of people that you don't want to owe money to. They have ripped off the only people they can, the handful of real investors and the bounty hunters.
What happens is they go into denial mode, those dreams of hookers and blow vanish and they just lose the plot, blame everyone they can think of, tell the most ridiculous lies they can think of.
Any time you want a laugh, have a look thru the contradictions and inventions called NELUNS Telegram.
Here's their latest rantings and ramblings

They probably blame the bounty hunters for the scam failing so badly and quickly, to rationalize them not being worth paying.
They are so stupid that they say "don't think you can fool us" after they have been fooled...

In two months NELUNS will be a stain on the floor, but loolool @ sending their meaningless tokens to the Government. Like...why?

Or whatever else we can think of. Hmmm, burn or sell....? Wasn't there something in the White Paper about this?

By the way, listing on big Exchanges will take place only after Hell freezes over.

In two months, you will move "on" to hiding in friends' basements to escape the Guys with the Soldering Irons...

wordzzzzz

And we will make sure we fuck over the bounty hunters.

Their latest post is just pure rambling paranoia...

Errr, you already listed it. It already dumped to nothing.
 
Here's the paranoia. A third party wants to buy NELUNS? But a third party can't buy tokens that investors don't want to sell, can they? If the bullshit about "institutional investors" had one iota of truth, this would be GOOD not bad, for the scam. And the Russian¹ thing again...


HAHAHA, I wonder who they are talking about? If I had a cent for every scammer who has said I'm being paid to post, I would be rich. "Decent man?" You mean like Nick Thielman? Lolol. Fuck off.
They are getting confused because of the stress of failure. This is obviously a reference to their 240 pages of Bump service spam on their [ANN] thread. (They can't even afford to pay the bill.)

Of course they won't pay real money for worthless shit. Well done, scammers, you ripped off your bounty hunters.

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¹someone else sees the funny side of this.


I got some red trust feedback the other day. Scammers often retaliate red trust me, like I care, but this one was different because I'd never written about his particular scam (777 ETH ponzi shit) and he left me the feedback about NELUNS. So any one wanting to find out who the NELUNS scammers are and why they seem so anti Russian could do worse than start with this cunt.

If you waste your time playing HYIPs and Ponzis, yes it is 

Today's trading at Willy Nelun's Chocolate Factory:

Last Close: $0.19 after $0.0005 low
Open: $0.0011 ($193,000 total cap)
Moved from $0.19 to $0.45 on $51.25 volume
Volume traded: about $300 worth in total.
Tomorrows Telegram up date: "+40809.9%, to da moon!"

Sorry to consecutive post, but this is really Comedy Gold....

First, basement moderator milonite gets a hard on, over $4 for a pumped shittoken means they can claim nearly a billion marketcap  



And then follows it up with the "+1700%" post. I naturally thought, as anyone interested was supposed to, that they'd pumped it to $17.
Once I'd stopped laughing, I realized that meant a market cap of $3+ BEEEELLIONS!!!!
Pretty damned impressive. lol

So, what are Telegram making of it?
What does it look like on the cutting edge shitmarket UI?
Not what it seems...

Poor old Marcus notices it first
Errrr, 9 cents?
That's a 91% DROP from the ICO price, after closing yesterday at $3+, a complete overnight meltdown  
"waddafuckisgoingon?" he asks.
Leslie Haynes is of course, the NELUNS numbers person, being

Her answer is priceless



Meanwhile, Bitcrap confirm, or seems to confirm the trading history of NLS so far:



Listed yesterday with a pump, started no volume trading at 17.30:48 at $0.90 and quickly to da moon, 20 minutes later, topping around at $3. (Don't know where milonite pulled $4 from, out of ass maybe?)
Today dumped, opened at $0.005, straight down to $0.0005 on a 20+ thou volume ($100,000 total market cap), since drifted up to $0.09, hence the rahrahrah about +1700%.....yeah, $0.0005 to $0.09 is about 1700%, I guess. One way of looking at it.

When you get a combination of bungling scammers and a new exchange which has already been caught lying, it becomes very difficult to know (or even care) about what's going on but, hey, it's holiday season, so let's play "Plausible Scenario":
We know there were a few tokens sold to mugs, if I remember without checking, somewhere around 600 ETH worth.
As soon as the lightbulb came on for those unfortunates that they had been sold the proverbial pup, they would be looking to dump it and move on.
The listing came as a bit of a surprise to everyone, including most of the scammers, who had only just told everyone the exchange can had been kicked down the road to February/the end of March.
So, listing day was a zero volume pump so as able to boast "trillion market cap" or whatever.
What it also did was attract some real dumping, around 27k tokens, "at Market" (BAAAD move in the circumstances) the next day...and there were no buyers. Because there are no buyers.
The scammers belatedly scramble a few dollars together from down the back of the rented leather sofa and soak it up: if they don't, it's all over.
And what a dump: $4 to $0.0005..."marketcap" down from "$812,560,000" to $100,000 in 24 hours lolol....and then NELUNS claim the crawl back to $0.09 as +1700%. Sad.  

This farce will no doubt stagger along for a bit more, but I have the suspicion that the scam seed money has all gone and they are now completely broke.
It's been (un)real NELUNS scampeeps, thanks for the lols.

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You got to watch this, it's fucking hilarious  

From half a cent to seventeen cents in four minutes on $69 worth of volume..

$0.001 to $0.01 to $0.001 to $0.1 in fifteen minutes on $200, volume 798,710.... maybe they're going for the mining prize  

Christmas fucking Panto

Pm'ed you.

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Well, after $180 volume in 24 hours on Bittrex Huobi Kraken Hitbtc Poloniex Binance Idkex Hotshit their own some Korean shitexchange, I thought I'd visit NELUNS self moderated thread and congratulate them, especially seeing as how their bumping service has stopped posting endless crap there because NELUNS didn't pay them.
However, knuckle-dragging self moderator milonite is ever vigilant in his basement...

There isn't enough real trading business going around to support anything like the number of exchanges there are. So, what do the exchanges do?
Make the numbers up.
Tell lies and extort listing fees.
From a fairly credible report, this table shows how much "wash trading" is going on and why.

Christmas Quiz:
 



https://bcommassociation.com/news/bitcoin-sv-is-the-worlds-new-money-and-needs-a-new-logo-for-its-currency

There's a third possible explanation: some libertarians question the whole concept of fraud, arguing that every trade interaction is based in deception (see Friedman comment in link).