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1641  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: January 23, 2017, 08:06:45 AM
I am very sure, paper money survive no more than 50 years, this is because the Earth has been very badly damaged, thus the use of papers are forbidden, including to make money.
interesting thought , but there is a lot of crumbly paper too ,
so it shouldn't be a problem anymore if they want to keep printing the pape money ,
imho applying digital money needed hundred years ,
so i doubt within 50 year paper moneycan be replaced.
1642  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do with your winnings? on: January 23, 2017, 07:50:42 AM
yes that words is correct, gambling doesn't make you rich but we can still make some profits from gambling and i think isn't only for fun
lots of funny things than we should risk our money, right? of course we still want to win and make huge profits and after make huge profits i will withdraw it and enjoy the money first and will back gambling again next day
easy money , easy to spend to right?
when you won a huge amount you will spend it for big things too ,
like to buy a new car , a new house etc ,
but when you won a little money only , you may will just spend it for a good food that you rarely eat it isn't it? Cheesy
1643  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do America and England follow bitcoin? on: January 23, 2017, 07:37:35 AM


can people stop thinking china is a power house

-snip-
I agree with your reasoning that China might not be as great as many would thing. But despite all your calculations it is Chinese traders who dictate the price.
AFAIK every major pump which brought price of BTC above $1000 threshold (in late 2013 and in December 2016) was originated and sustained by Chinese traders.
It is still safe to assume that China is behind the price of BTC, and price is the most crucial factor here - no one will tell me otherwise.
true , it was concerned to see there is some people can (actually) control the market ,
chinese are so dangerous nowadays in any field ,
imho they are really great in developing bitcoin especially if talking about manipulating the price ,
well we have different way to support bitcoin by the way .
1644  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: List of truly instant and anonymous bitcoin casinos on: January 23, 2017, 07:26:27 AM
DirectBet is the best place for LIVE Bitcoin Sports betting. We offer a huge variety of events and betting options.


I though so at a time, but then cloudbet and sportsbet.io came, in no way can you compare the odds to those in live games offered by either of those sportbooks, and cloudbet's collection of games is even bigger than Directbet's.....

Cloudbet is sort of dead. They have a nonexistent support system and if they were to block your money, their reputation does not get affected at all anywhere.

@Op, why do you feel jetwin is a questionable casino ? Have played on it and never had any issues in the past.
yupp i even have a little money left there stucked ,
not recommended at all , better to choose another reliable books like nitrogensports ,
nitrogen have a great odds in sportsbetting i admit it ,
but they have a terrible house edge on their casino , i don't like it.
1645  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io 💰 4.5 BTC BitcoinTalk COMPETITION! ⚽ 25,000+ mBTC Leaderboards ⚽ on: January 23, 2017, 07:19:44 AM
wondering why the site are very laggy in my windows pc ,
but very smooth when i move using my iphone ,
is this site not windows or android friendly?
because it is annoying when i want to place my bet through my pc , it takes up to 3 minutes just for 1 bet.
1646  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts for Bitcoin in 2017? on: January 23, 2017, 07:10:24 AM
This year bitcoin will increase more its population and online services would accept BTC as payments to provide their users to purchase special features, items and products with no hassle. I am looking forward that it will now break the ATH.
The price of bitcoin is still climb up now, I think it is also attracts the people to buy bitcoin for investment. I agree that more online shop would accept bitcoin because bitcoin can really help them.
not sure if bitcoin price keep growing it can me more demand ,
i mean how people can afford to buy bitcoin if the price grow up to $100,000 ?
it is just gonna be a weird thing , a currency that worth 100k  Roll Eyes ,
and maybe if it happened in the future bitcoin will not considered as currency anymore.
1647  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: January 23, 2017, 07:04:16 AM

I think is becoz you can win some really big amount with just a dollar or even less.

As expected, alot of people keep believing in such story. The story of that you could win hundreds of btc with only a few dollars is actually happened however only few people manged to get a taste of it . If it actually happened to everyone then everyone would choose to be a gambler instead of opening a gambling site
gambling give you a chance to win huge amount with cents ,
i think the proper statement that could be made about this is like that ,
you can really make it happen as long as you lucky enough ,
both in a lot of experience that have been told , there is loser much more than the real winner in gambling.
1648  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Money laundering via BTC on: January 23, 2017, 06:54:19 AM
Could be. But how you will do it? Are we talking about a black fiat then buying bitcoin? But first you would need to make the seller believe that you are using a legit money. It will be still hard to make it to bitcoin for those who will sell you the coins will still check your fiat money.

That is not only what bitcoin laundering is. It involves having money in any form on which tax has not been paid on. If someone is holding or trading their bitcoins , but have never declared the source, then they are money laundering as well.
a lot of people have done this to avoid tax yupp ,
there is no harm to do that actually since there always a difference point of view about tax ,
some people think that tax are not necessary to be done by government ,
btw there a lot of people do money laundering on giftcard too .
1649  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: January 23, 2017, 06:35:07 AM
I have my bet today

Chelsea vs Hull City: Bet to win on Chelsea and
Arsenal vs Burnley: also, Bet to win on Arsenal



These bets are very easy to make so it might be a better idea to do a parlay out of them.  I do it from time to time when I don't see any worthy bets to make.  I tend to be stingy.  And when I do decide to make a bet, I want to gain as much value as possible.
actually a match between arsenal and burnley wasn't easy one ,
arsenal struggling to win over them , even got a red card ,
luckily there is strange things happened during the match ,
there is two penalties within 4 minutes extra time  Shocked , never seen something like that before .
1650  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is Becoming a Global Currency on: January 22, 2017, 11:59:35 PM
Bitcoin is a global currency but still categorized as Digital Currency. Bitcoin is already popular around the world. It is currently being used for online shopping and other transactions with lesser fees. I believe that as time goes by, Bitcoin will become a major part for payments and its value will still go up.
i think bitcoin is already a global currency because you can find the users of bitcoins everywhere in the world, having same value everywhere, and hope that now people will become able to use bitcoin for several services like to pay utility bills and so many other purposes.
there maybe some criteria for a currency to be called as global currency ,
not just it is used almost in every country around the world ,
but also how much percentage people use the currency , how much they spend etc ,
for me personally bitcoin not yet become a global currency , a lot of people don't know bitcoin yet.
1651  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: January 22, 2017, 11:48:57 PM
This looks to be an interesting game because Eibar is at home.
Will it end up like the Celta Vigo game that happened last week? Angry
Barcelona won their forth game in row now with them scoring 4 goals in this game that got my bet right as i had over2.5 goals in this game and we have seen The MSN scores as each one of them scored a goal and now we have Suarez and Messi leading the top scorers in LaLiga with 15 goal each behind them CRonaldo with 12 but i don't know Why Neymar is way behind this season on the scoring as he only have now 5 goals so we should see more action from him.
if you take a look to a pre match odds for barcelona moneyline there is around @1.3 to @1.39 for them!
quite huge odds for a super club like barcelona ,
they won the game however , every bookmakers seems like predicted there will be draw ,
but well done bacelona won it confidently 4-0 , back in best form.
1652  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Your biggest bitcoin regrets? on: January 22, 2017, 11:33:17 PM
my biggest regret is that I did not join the Bitcoin world sooner. I had known Bitcoin for a year and a half before I started to use them. It is really sad you know. If I had joined the Bitcoin world sooner, I would have obtained more than 100 bitcoin right now Sad poor me
That would be everyone's regret in this forum.The people who adapted bitcoin earlier made a good fortune with the amount of coins they collected during the initial stages and that cannot be replicated ,so accept the fact and moving on is the only solution here.
no , i doubt you will acquire even for 10 dollar if you were in 2009!
there only few early adopter that keep believing in bitcoin ,
and they are deserve to get a lot of profit up to million dollar ,
just from a small investment, i doubt you can do what an early adopter did.
1653  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: January 22, 2017, 11:21:46 PM
I think the easiest way to earn bit coin is either sports betting or playing poker. With those, the more you learn about the game the better chance you have to make winning decisions.
If easy to earn bitcoin or money like you said, im sure no one online betting site can stand for long time, nothing easy in gambling even though you can analyze or use skill in fact only lucks that can made you win.
the house edge designed to be always in profit no matter what ,
that is make player never easy to win in the long run as the house are ajdusted ,
everytime there is 1 winner there should be 10 loser sacrificed ,
that is how gambling works for the casino owner.
1654  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Prediction ligue 1, france football league on: January 22, 2017, 03:40:25 PM
Today's matches in Ligue 1:

Monaco vs Lorient: Monaco has mad 10 of 10 times over 2,5 goals at home.                   OVER 2,5 goals at quote@1.40
S.Etienne vs Angers: the two teams are teams that do more under 2.5 goals in Ligue1. UNDER 2,5 goals at quote@1.50

My double-up
i think using this for parlay would be another good option since the odds are too low making some gamble and hoping for luck to come will be a good decision to make, i trust Monaco to deliver higher points and cover this over 2.5 goals let see if doing parlay will work for me. good luck

Monaco has already netted 3 goals in first half So over 2.5 prediction has already been won. Monaco is on fire still, I'm expecting total goals to be around over 3.5 to 4.5
it is 4-0 now for as monaco at 78' , a nice prediction btw Smiley ,
strange names scored goals there Gabriel Boschilia and Valere Germain 2 goals each ,
when falcao can not do much this time just running here and there ,
too much failed shots attempt made by him in this match.
1655  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How Do Use/Spent Bitcoin ? on: January 22, 2017, 03:12:09 PM
Use bitcoin wisely and smart. Use it to buy some clothes, shoes and accessories. Because we know that today you can buy stuffs using Bitcoin. And specially use it for investment so that while you are using it to buy stuffs at the same time you are earning.
always wondering to spend my bitcoin to buy clothes offline ,
unfortunately until right now there is no offline store available around my place Sad ,
so i just spend them online mostly in gambling ,
and sometimes try to learn trading even it is pretty hard .
1656  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: January 22, 2017, 02:51:44 PM
When do you stop? Do you have a daily limit or something?
If you can't stop yourself to play in the gambling sites, it is really should be have a daily limits in gambling, like correct sample your limits amount in losing satoshi must be 0.005BTC this must be the limitations whether win or loss then stop.

Its just easy to say but when you are already playing and you are feeling lucky you will still playing even you already reached your limitation as greediness will eaten you up to the point that you will lose everything back and worst thing you will lose also your bankroll
For some people not the both thing happen in their lives. I have saw some people who are gambling and they are getting a good income from there because of their experience and strategy while some are there who have much money but they do not have that much abilities that they earn money in gambling and even lose their wealth.

Even though anyone might be winning from gambling, so learn to draw a line of when to stop, because no one can win forever in gambling and if one dont choose the start and end points, they will always lose one day no matter how much they winning daily.
that's true , i won $700 last week from several poker tables ,
but earlier i just lost it all , even more ,
and it is stopped me playing as i have nothing to play (not with a super hot money) ,
noone can keep winning , even i have tried to do bankroll management it is always ended up failed.
1657  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin be replaced by another cryptocurrency? on: January 21, 2017, 02:32:21 PM
I think it is difficult and near impossible, when people talk cryptocurrency, then they will know bitcoin. I also know that there are many altcoin the technology side is better than bitcoin, but because bitcoin is first then it will not be replaced.
yuppp that's true , i have an experience when i am asking for a buyer to pay me on dogecoin ,
but he just respond nothing and say have no idea bout it ,
common people only know bitcoin , why? of course it is more popular ,
so if there will be another crypto replace bitcoin , it should be become popular more than bitcoin.
1658  Economy / Economics / Re: Does the Price of Bitcoin Matter? on: January 21, 2017, 02:18:22 PM
Of course it does matter, traders earn profit from the price of Bitcoins, if you know when to buy and sell, you can actually make a good income  Smiley
but to know when the best time to sell or buy, is not easy, you need at the market price analysis and others. the price of bitcoin, you can get many benefits including profit
No one said it's easy, in fact trading and investing is risky due to the nature of bitcoin which is risk. We are making risk here and we love to take risk just for our belief that bitcoin will be a success.
any kind business required an effort and risk ,
without something like that things won't run smoothly , it has been a rule to do it ,
a lot of people think about bitcoin just based on price right?
so it shows how the price really matter .
1659  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What would happen if BTC was Banned? on: January 21, 2017, 01:36:13 PM
What do you guys think it would happen if all the governments in the world declared bitcoin to be illegal?
How do you think the community would react? What could be the possible solutions?

Bitcoin is already working independently of the states. Even if states prohibit bitcoin, the presence of the bitcoin system will continue.
Some problems may arise when goverments declare bitcoin illegal. For example, both bitcoin users and bitcoin miners can be arrested. Then the use of bitcoin may be reduced. Normal users can stop using bitcoin. Bitcoin continues to be used only in its undergound.
nothing can stop bitcoin operated but the user itself right?
government , united nations or anything can make a rules to ban bitcoin , but they cannot stop the operation ,
it has experienced by bitcoin users from china and russia ,
they are frustated to stop people using bitcoin and then just let it run.
1660  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: January 21, 2017, 01:28:01 PM
Real madrid vs Malaga: We know Real Madrid is a strong team, So I bet on Real Madrid to win
Valencia vs Villareal: Bet to win on Villareal.




Most of the time it's easy money when Real Madrid and Barca play with smaller teams. Only times I have doubts is when they play other high tier teams like Athletico and Valencia, and obviously when it's Real vs Barca I have no idea who to put a win at, but most of the time its going to be easy to guess.
yuppp just like when they lost to a smaller teams like celta vigo lol ,
real madrid lost to them 1-2 it was terrible to lost at home with a mediocre teams ,
also previously they lost to sevilla , a very bad week for them ,
so today should be the day to prove they are back in form as a strong team.
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