Sure looks like it. Maybe for easy remote access.

Just convert Fiat directly into BTC and you can calculate like a wire payment.... which is faster and cheaper...

Again, the main source of noise in sp10s is the high cfm 40mm fans.
The PSU fan isn´t that annoying, furthermore this is only 1 fan, and spondoolies has confirmed that it will be slowed by firmware once programmed by them, as it has massive margins for +35°C DCs.

Ofcourse i wont advise anyone to put these into a very sound sensitive environment.

There is always a slower firmware setting available if you are really annoyed by the sound.

First of all, i guess earliest is June.
With 10/12k you can get 4th delivered NOW or atleast early May (spondoolies sp10).

My prediction for hashrate on the final KnC Neptune will not exceed 4,5th by much, and plan B only seems to cover 3Th.

My prediction for power consumption is no better than 0,7W/GH/s. (As stated by them, 30% better efficiency, 1,2W/GH/s *0,7 --> only 0,84W/GH/s)

Dont forget to add 300-450$ for PSUs and along the same 300$ for shipping cost, giving you ~10,7/12,7k cost.
Even for 4,5 TH that is only 2,377$/GH, and that is assuming this +50% performance increase, which nobody guarantees in any way.

Again you can get ~2,4$/GH NOW/within 2 weeks.

Spondoolies sp30 group buy even gives you 10,8TH for 9k, delivered in August, with better power efficiency, without hoping for KnC´s mercy.

They even have special payment conditions for customers awaiting KnC refunds.


By the way, hasn´t KnC recently announced PSU requirements? Something along the line of 2,4kw?
Even with 0,7w/GH/s that is only 3,428TH and they admitted to having safety margins in the PSU announcement, so it should be less.

As in one of my earlier posts, in most European countries, including Sweden, consumer protection law gives you the right to reverse the purchase within 14 days.
These 14days begin only from the moment you are informed by the company of this right, so if they never inform you, you can always request a refund.

Consumer protection law is much tighter and better enforced in Europe than in most countries.

Best way of getting back at your mother-in-law  

.. but seriously, most of your noise concerns should be gone when putting it in an adjacent buidling or even a free standing garage.

The main noise is not from the psu, it is from the high cfm 40mm fans, and while the noise level is high, the main problem in a home environment is that the sound is very whiny (high pitch).
I can only speculate that the noise will be a lower pitch sound with the sp30s, as they use 80mm fans.

Why don´t you just install ac in your garage and put the units there,
that should take care of most of the sound problems.

I guess some custom enclosure would also be a solution but you should take care of high enough airflow, as the risk of heat-choking your units in a smaller space is obviously higher.
There are also some directly cooled, closed racks available for sale with 10kw+ cooling per rack already installed. Close the rack door and some noise is already gone.

I guess my opinion on this is unpopular, but i for my part think, a small unit size is excellent for any kind of datacenter deployment.

With the 1,25u / 2u for the sp30 respectively it is your choice which datacenter to use.

Got a standard datacenter in mind? Just use only 8 servers per rack.
If you have only a few sp10, most smaller datacenters can offer cheap colocation in shared cabinets by just putting them in racks that are not yet maxed out.

Mine is currently in a very small, low quality datacenter, designed for ~10kw racks however, i only pay for 1,25u + power, so it´s a fair deal for everyone.
Even though my intake temp. is 24-25°C i am still constantly over 1,4th, so nothing to fear there.

Enter deployment in bigger datacenters and you can really get good hosting quotes per kwh for bigger deployments.

I believe i read somewhere that spondoolies will be offering longer term hosting in different locations come summer, passing the bulk discounts on to us.

Keep in mind that while these are marketed to standard consumers, they where designed for datacenter deployment.


I mean before you go to exorbitant amounts of trouble building your own custom datacenter in your basement, run the numbers and datacenter deployment might come cheaper.
While i do understand the fuzzy feeling you get when looking at your units hashing away, you can still go visit them in most datacenters if you really feel the urge to.

Also if you do something wrong, the risk of accidentally burning your house down because you decided to run several 240V power lines yourself isn´t there.
Plus if you live in an environment with frequent brown/blackouts, no such trouble in DCs.

Again, if you want some protection, you can pay via Escrow with OgNasty.

If i were to sell Miners, i wouldn´t use PayPal either.
The fees are too high and they hold your money hostage for nearly two months.
If you´re a small to medium sized business, you need that money to ramp up production and purchase parts and pay your workers.

It is just too much of a wildcard.

While the price for the upgrade board seems attractive and fair, keep in mind that you still need to buy the heatsink and fan, pay for shipping and the PSU on top of that.

While i personally am not the institution enforcing laws in any country, your condecending argument that basically states Israel is at the end of the world is not called for.

As every civilized state it has certain laws and individuals, aswell as companies have to abide by them.

This is not some "company" somebody has set up in their back yard doing garage sales of bitcoin "miners".
They are funded by two Israeli venture capital firms and to this day conduct business in a professional and legal manner.

If you have such high doubts then simply not place an order with them.
All i can say is that the sp10 is the best miner design i have ever seen and it was delivered on time and on-spec, even overperforming.

- The DC´s with really competetive electricity can also handle a good power density. With this you have the choice of a high density data center or just using only some of your rack in a low density environment
   (also, smaller DCs might be able to give you an attractive rate by only charging you for one server and power use, and put the unit into a shared rack that isn´t maxed out yet)

- The whiny, high pitch sound of 40mm fans will be replaced by a different sound in the sp30 (80mm fans)
   Using a bigger case makes it more difficult to move the air through the heatsinks, much of it would flow around it. With a small case you force nearly all air through the heatsink, making for efficient cooling.

- Many times, used replacement server PSUs can be picked up cheaply if one of yours dies, however this should be covered by the initial warranty. PSUs are typically designed to last for ~5 years

There are always both negative and positive points about design and implementation choices.
You should especially check before setting this unit up adjacent to your bedroom, but the noise level is mentioned in the unit stats.

Yes, eye candy is always nice.
What is the electricity rate at your home if i may ask?

The power needed to cool a certain unit is typically 1/3 of the units´power.
Therefore, an AC that draws 1,3kw should easily be able to cool 2 sp10s or 1 sp30.
You can also try directing the cool air flow by placing the units very near the AC or by creating some kind of funnel (warning, this can be a safety hazard)

I forgot wether Edgard was asking about sp10 or sp30, but for the sake of thermal argument, 2sp10 shall now equal 1 sp30.

Probably, but it will be a tight fit.

Just try it and check the temperature of the wires after a few hours.
If for some reason your ants would be sucking way more power, the PSU will simply trip its brakers and you can restart it.

Dont forget, you can get 2,8 TH sp10s delivered in early May for 7200$....
Thats nearly the hashrate of your Neptune right there, plus some cash to go shopping, and no more waiting until June.

Or get some A1 clones for a good price today. Either way, you can have your almost 3TH(+) today for the price KnC took,
even more if you were unlucky and paid 12k for the first regular batch.

Plus you won´t have to go and buy your own PSUs amounting to another 300$-450$ savings.

"Neptune is our first 20nm product. This order is for the Third batch which will leave about one month after the Second batch"

Does that mean, if the second batch for some reason gets delivered (delivered as in 20nm hardware in hand, not some sort of compensation) in Q3,

the batch which is now for sale (!without any kind of refund option) could be delivered as late as Q4?

I mean the description of the delivery date is so wide-open to ANY interpretation.....
And why are these units priced at only 60% of the batch before? Surely only one month delay from Q2 doesn´t explain that....


Edit: "However, if you
buy something ... online or from a door-to-door salesperson, you have 14 days’ right to cancel
when shopping within Sweden. The Swedish
Distance and Door-to-Door Sales Act includes the requirement that the seller gives you
clear information on how you can cancel your purchase."

In many European countries these 14 days right to cancellation is extended until the vendor informs you of this right.
Still, if for some reason you bought into the new Neptune batch, this should give you the right to get your money back within 14 days, if you choose to want to.

Isn´t havelock holding ASICMINER shares?

Granted, it is not uncommon to have NDA´s for certain deals that are not meant for everyone to know.

However in this case, it would be pretty hard to enforce....
Oh due to some unforeseen circumstance the mine will now be "insert number of increased TH/s here" initially...

You get the point, everyone would know what happened even if nobody admits it.


Edit: Wildly speculative numbers removed

I thought nearly all US facilities were air-conditioned to the point that even in summer you need to wear a jacket indoors XD.

I guess if the temperature is regularly over 40°C some air conditioning might be apropriate?

You could always buy a portable AC unit with the cool air directed into the hardware.

Alternatively if your climate exceeds 40°C simply ask about spondoolies long-term hosting solution for US customers...