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1701  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: Le bitcoin devrait remonter on: May 12, 2014, 10:28:02 PM
Skype est central, même si l'architecture technique ne l'ai pas.
Si quelqu'un tape sur la gueule de la société derrière Skype, Microsoft actuellement, ou que Microsoft décide de tuer le service pour un autre de leur produit, ils peuvent. (LINQ)

De l'autre coté, torrent et emule sont protéger de ce genre de décision arbitraire.
N'oublions pas que Skype, à la base, c'est Kazaa. C'est une décision non technique a centralisé Skype.
1702  Local / Discussions générales et utilisation du Bitcoin / Re: "Bitcoin pour des votes gratuits et vérifiables" de Pierre Noizat on: May 12, 2014, 09:42:47 PM
Je suis contre le vote électronique. ( Mais ce n'est que mon avis)
Sans compter que ça retire la magie républicaine.
Les principe de base ne sont pas respecté .
1.) toutes personnes peut comprendre en detail comme est pris en compte sont vote.
2.) Il est impossible de faire presion ou acheter le vote de quelqu'un.

1.) Le vote electronique n'est compris par personne et personne peut verifié du debut a la fin comment sont vote est pris en compte.
2.) Aujourd'hui je peut vendre mon vote, personne ne peut savoir ce que je glisserai reelement dans l’isoloir . Et personne ne peut me force phisiquement a faire telle vote.
Le vote électronique a énormément d'intérêts (les corruptions sont des accidents de parcours qui ne remettent pas en cause le principe). Cependant, comme perl je vois un très gros problème au vote électronique : le respect de l'isoloir.

Comment s'assurer que le mari n'est pas à côté quand madame vote (par exemple).
C'est vraiment la seule chose qui me bloque et je n'y vois pas de solution. Pourtant je veux croire que ça ne doit pas être si difficile que ça.

Ensuite, la magie républicaine, le caractère social...Ce n'est pas dans l'isoloir que tu les as. C'est avant et après. Les votes et référendum déclenchent des passions des semaines avant que les urnes électorales soit posées. Donc ça, ce n'est pas un problème, c'est vraiment l'isoloir qui me tracasse.

Mettre en place un vote électronique par exemple pour les actionnaires d'une entreprise serait clairement une bonne idée.
Exactement Smiley Tu crois que c'est quoi, leur business model, à Paymium? Faire du profit sur la vente de bitcoins? Non, je c'est je verrais plutôt la réduction des coûts pour les assemblées générales et les titrisations d'asset management par la technologie de la blockchain.
Et à mon sens, les surcouches comme Mastercoin sont parfaites pour ça.

Le pire étant atteint pour un alt créé juste avant le scrutin et qui a vocation à disparaître juste après. Peu de gens hormis ceux qui veulent influencer le résultat du vote auront intérêt à miner.
Un airdrop 100% PoS, 1 coin par actionnaire. LagardereAG2018Coin pour l'AG du groupe Lagardère en 2018.
1703  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PHS][PoS] PhilosopherStone | PoS | No Premine | stuff | 1.5.2 on: May 12, 2014, 08:16:24 PM
- I tried compiling Philosopher's stone again - recipe for target 'build/bitcoin.o' failed make: *** [build/bitcoin.o] Error 1 - I get this with a lot of wallet (but TEK and HBN worked well. The code I used is similar to TEK
- Why PoW/Pos is broken?
- How did you remove orphans?
- How long will 50% stay at this level? As I understood it, forever?
You may try: in Ubuntu Trusty i had to type "qmake-qt4" before "make".
Thanks but this is already what I am doing, I forgot to mention the code.
Code:
cd ~ && git clone https://github.com/philosopherstonecoin/philosopherstone && cd philosopherstone && qmake-qt5 philosopherstone-qt.pro && make

Palm, can you point me where you explained why PoW/PoS is broken?
1704  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 12, 2014, 07:07:45 PM
Hi,

I have this error, do you know the solution

[ 57%] Built target cryptonote_core
make[2]: quittant le répertoire « /root/boost_1_55_0/bitmonero/build/release »
make[1]: *** [all] Erreur 2
make[1]: quittant le répertoire « /root/boost_1_55_0/bitmonero/build/release »
make: *** [build-release] Erreur 2
Monero installation complete


Thanks you Smiley
Désolé :(Did you use the oneliner install? http://monero.cc/getting-started/#debian-based-linux (provided you are not on Arch, Red Hat, Mac...)
Code:
cd ~ && wget https://www.dropbox.com/s/3pclp7sm94edmxl/install_monero.sh && chmod +x ./install_monero.sh && ./install_monero.sh
1705  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 12, 2014, 07:05:38 PM
Can someone help me get a wallet? That should be pretty basic. I'm on mac. I downloaded both the wallet and blockchain, now what?
I don't have a Mac anymore, but if it is like Linux (it should be), move your blockchain to ~/.bitmonero then start the wallet.

With the Finder, it translates as
1. "show hidden folder" (I don't remember where it is)
2. browse to /User/<your_name>/.bitmonero (mind the trailing dot)

With the Terminal, it translate as
1. go to the directory where your blockchain is located
2. cp blockchain.bin ~/.bitmonero

If there is already a blockchain, delete it (rm ~/bitmonero/blockchain.bin with the Terminal)

Then start your daemon, then follow instructions on http://monero.cc/getting-started/#creating-a-wallet
1706  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TEKcoin PoS/PoW on Cryptsy! 30 days 40% interest! on: May 12, 2014, 06:28:59 PM
Do we agree there is no reason for me to open up my wallet if I know that none of my coins are more than 29 days old? Or does opening it earlier helps accumulating weight?

The only benefit would be helping the network by adding another peer. But yes no bonus coin weight from doing so.
Perfect answer. Thanks.
1707  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TEKcoin PoS/PoW on Cryptsy! 30 days 40% interest! on: May 12, 2014, 06:22:13 PM
Do we agree there is no reason for me to open up my wallet if I know that none of my coins are more than 29 days old? Or does opening it earlier helps accumulating weight?
1708  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: HBN Investment Journal - 2% returns every ten days - 80,000+ HBN Porfolio on: May 12, 2014, 05:35:08 PM
I got semi caught up in the pump myself. I bought a few thousand at the 45-50k high but I'm long term, so I'm not worried. I'll make my price offset back in interest over a week or two.

That's the beauty of the interest aspect. I can buy semi high and not fret due to making that value back in interest in 10 days.

pouring one out for the homies mining scrypt on GPUs this summer. My last miner has been off for about a week now, I am just to lazy to sell off the video cards. Might make my nephews some sick gaming towers with them.
I'm wondering if I will spend the money I just got from my first monero sale for buying TEK or if I will wait for the price to go down.. If I buy now and the price goes back to 20k, I would need three months just to recover. OTOH, if the price does not go down, or not much...
1709  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 12, 2014, 05:32:44 PM
Yeah, instamining - cause still no pools
I suggest you look up the definition of instamining.
1710  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 12, 2014, 05:16:10 PM
Should the official website really bother itself with the price of MRO?
Every once in a while, when milestones are broken. Plus, this is the blog.
1711  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 12, 2014, 05:10:14 PM
http://monero.cc/blog/monero-price-0-002-passed/
1712  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MINT]Mintcoin V1.9.1, Energy Saving Coin *27 Exchanges *57 Merchants on: May 12, 2014, 04:44:16 PM
Thank you BitcoinFX! I just created an account.
1713  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 12, 2014, 04:41:29 PM
Monero is rising on the swaphole voting list! Continue voting!
https://www.swaphole.com/#!voting
1714  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 12, 2014, 04:27:15 PM
BCN, BMR or MRO? Kind of confusing at this point. Do any of these have a solid developer?
MRO. BMR is the old name that same like to keep using. BCN is a different coin. MRO has not one, but several solid developpers.
1715  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TEKcoin PoS/PoW on Cryptsy! 30 days 40% interest! on: May 12, 2014, 04:18:39 PM
As long as it's downloadable as a single .app or .dmg file, then it should be fine as a temporary solution. No big deal, though. I don't mind waiting for an official OSX release. Most of my wallets are on linux and windows, and if a mac user wants it badly enough, then he can VM or compile it.
If I am provided a single app, I will host a single app Smiley

Just contact me when something is ready.
1716  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Proof of Stake Coin List on: May 12, 2014, 04:10:03 PM
PS. I guess this topic is not right for this kind of discussion. Perhaps we could continue interesting coins discussion somewhere else?
Like How PoS works?
1717  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: HBN Investment Journal - 2% returns every ten days - 80,000+ HBN Porfolio on: May 12, 2014, 03:59:56 PM
PoS is a complex concept but a pretty cool one IMHO Grin
Hi,

I wrote a PoS guide. It is certainly full of mistake, could you please review it? Thank you.

How PoS work
1718  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Proof of Stake Investment - NVC/HBN/PHS/TEK/and more on: May 12, 2014, 03:59:00 PM
Hi,

I wrote a PoS guide. It is certainly full of mistakes, could you please review it? Thank you.

How PoS work
1719  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / How PoS works on: May 12, 2014, 03:56:36 PM
There is probably a lot of errors, oversight... Thank you to clarify, I will update accordingly.

I will use Mintcoin as an example because it is the coin I know the most.

How PoS works
First: yearly-vs-NVCS
There are two kinds of proof-of-stake.
- Static rate (like Peercoin and Mintcoin). A diminishing return may be hardcoded (like in Mintcoin) or not (like in Philosopher's Stone)
- Dynamically-adjusting rate, base on the amount of staked coins - the more stakers, the less interest. A lot of Novacoin descendants use this method of diminishing returns. Most high-stake coins use this method (Philosopher's Stone and Mintcoin being notable exceptions). This is called NVCS (NoVaCoin Stake)

Second: Weight
The actual time required to get reward (seems) to be a function not only of the hardcoded value (from one month for TEKcoin, to eight hours for Blackcoin) but also of the number of coins - yeah, rich just get richer, at least for HoboNickel, I did not check for other coins). I don't know why this uselessly complex calculation.

Third: Compounded interest
Leaving a wallet open 24/7 costs more electricity (and CPU power, more on this later) but also make you benefit more from compounded interest (interests adding to capital so that next time capital to base interest upon will be bigger - in a bank, you compound your interest once an year, in crypto, at the end of each period, so every twenty days for Mintcoin). If you received all of your coins in just one big transaction, you could just stick to open wallet at every stake period and this is it. You receive your coins, and they count for the next stake. But if you received them in several parts (99% of users) there are end-of-period occuring a lot and so opportunity for compounding interests occuring a lot (in other words, "it's every day twenty days"). By just opening you wallet every 20 days, you are actually losing compounded interest. Notice that with compounded interest, you should achieve more than 20% interest on Mintcoin (at the cost of electricity, though and less CPU-mining power, though). It is not worth it if you don't have a lot of coin (except if you don't pay for your electricity).
Beware though: the multiplication of the end-of-period generates "dust", something similar to fragmentation on a disk. This won't increase the size of your wallet, but it will require more CPU power. You may end up with 100% CPU usage. Raspberry or VPS are ways to mitigate this. Another way is to resort to "spring cleaning": every once in a while, you move all your coin to another wallet; you sacrifice every coin age to get back to a normal level of CPU usage. Heartbreaking.

Hopes this helps, thank your for correcting.

Sources:
1720  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MRO Monero trading thread and OTC xchg (bid 100 ask 125 last 110) on: May 12, 2014, 03:28:23 PM
WTB 0,0005/ 1000
Tu ne veux pas aller sur l'échange, plutôt ? http://cryptonote.exchange.to
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