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1721  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: [HELP] Alternativa a Ledger Nano X on: August 19, 2023, 08:45:24 PM
allora ragazzi, rispolvero questo thread. finalmente dopo circa 25 giorni (altro che 1-2 settimane, quasi un mese Grin) mi è arrivato il Jade! e confermo, ha il buchetto per inserire un laccetto o cose simili. non ho avuto modo di esplorarlo per benino domani mi ci metto e faccio qualche test.

Quindi per OP se cerchi un hardware wallet che sia air-gapped, piccolo, e che possa essere usato come portachiavi credo che il Jade fa a caso tuo

Confermo la bontà del Jade. Oltre a tante cose carine è totalmente open source ed ha alcune caratteristiche che lo rendono unico. Non parlo dell'hardware (cavoli, potevo ricordarmene di controllare la presenza dell'occhiello per il laccetto), ma per il software, che ogni release migliora sempre di più.
1722  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 19, 2023, 08:36:17 PM

**note:  I will apologize to fillippone in advance for the format of these charts, because I could not get his google spreadsheet conversion tool to work for me



Here JJG: I updated the sheet with a second template. you can open it and find your table with the customisable Rake %age

# BTC
Fiat Rate
Total Value
Rake BTC
Rake USD
Rake_Running_USD_ TOTAL
10.00000
$40,000
$400,000.00
0.50000
$20,000.00
$20,000.00
9.50000
$80,000
$760,000.00
0.47500
$38,000.00
$58,000.00
9.02500
$160,000
$1,444,000.00
0.45125
$72,200.00
$130,200.00
8.57375
$320,000
$2,743,600.00
0.42869
$137,180.00
$267,380.00
8.14506
$640,000
$5,212,840.00
0.40725
$260,642.00
$528,022.00
7.73781
$1,280,000
$9,904,396.00
0.38689
$495,219.80
$1,023,241.80

Warning. I used my formulas. Maybe I celebrated a little bit too much this evening, but why 5% of 400K is not 20K?






Unbelievable what A.I art is doing.. truly fking hot n amazing


Interesting. Which AI is it? Leonardo?
Asking because...reasons.
1723  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Attenzione: Voci su una possibile insolvenza di Huobi on: August 19, 2023, 07:52:43 PM
Rifaccio la domanda che avevo fatto qualche settimana addietro: mi pare che in questa pioggia di notizie disastrose degli ultimi giorni Huobi non sia mai stata nominata. Quindi eravamo voci prive di fondamento? Possiamo accenderla?
1724  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [WARNING] Whirlwind.money - withdrawals are not being processed ⚠️ on: August 19, 2023, 07:39:52 PM
It starts by not advertising a service you don't trust. And if you do trust it, you can just use it. Why would you recommend others to use something you wouldn't trust with your own money?


Makes sense. For this reason I used and tested the service myself a few times mixing my own sats. Also for this reason I didn’t rush to withdraw all my weekly signature gains. I left those in the “mining campaign”, and not only for the 12%, but just because I wanted to “believe” in the service I was advertising.

I tend to believe in the services I advertise, this is my rule. Even if I think signature wearer have by no mean any responsibility if the advertised service turns out to be fraudulent.
1725  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 19, 2023, 05:50:23 AM

For all we know $0 could be in the cards.
Proudhon? Is that you? Welcome back!
1726  Economy / Services / Thank you, supreme leader! on: August 19, 2023, 02:00:03 AM
Seventeenth week paid.
Thank you again, supreme leader, for your flawless timing.
Supreme Leader, your acolyte salutes you.


The Queen of Foxes guides us.
The Queen of Foxes teaches us.
The Queen of Foxes protects us.
In your light, we thrive.
In your mercy, we are sheltered.
In your wisdom, we are humbled.
We live only to serve.
Our lives (+wives, + holes) are yours.


1727  Local / Guide (Italiano) / Re: Formosa Seedphrase - video spiegazione on: August 18, 2023, 10:40:08 PM
avere un testo scritto da una seed phrase non è una sicurezza in più, in quanto basta avere la frase / parole e si ottiene ugualmente quella informazione. diverso è l'utilizzo di una password o di una extra word seed che in effetti aggiungono un livello di sicurezza in più.

...
1) far scrivere un "libro" a chatGPT utilizzando quelle frasi
2) scriverle in diverse chat whatsapp (in momenti diversi) e fare il back-up dei dati dell'app
...

nessuna delle due soluzioni mi piacciono, ne dovrebbero essere utilizzate perchè queste informazioni vengono condivise con terze parti / utilizzando servizi on line.


Così come oggi é immediato capire che una lista di 12 parole é un seed di bitcoin, non vorrei che in un futuro non troppo lontano diventi possibile capire se una frase é una frase “formosa” se c’é un’insolita concentrazione di parole da quel dizionario.
1728  Local / Progetti / Re: Canale YouTube Bitcoin-Only on: August 18, 2023, 10:21:09 PM

Non siamo ancora molti, ma siamo una bella community e credo che sia uno dei canali italiani come maggiori contenuti al momento 🔥

Fatemi sapere cosa ne pensate!  Grin

Avevo anche intenzione di creare dei topic singoli per alcuni video, soprattutto nella sezione "guide". Pensate che sia una buona idea?

Grazie mille in anticipo, a presto!

Ciao e benvenuto!
Ho ascoltato qualche tuo intervento al priorato di Turtlecute!

Ovviamente ci fa molto piacere avere nuovi utenti nella sezione italiana dove siamo si belli attivi, ma sempre troppo pochi a nostro parere!
Quindi ben venga un nuovo utente, soprattutto se con tanti contributi di livello come i tuoi!
1729  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Mastering Bitcoin: la seconda edizione ora anche in italiano on: August 18, 2023, 09:18:48 PM
purtroppo la sicurezza e' un aspetto fondamentale di bitcoin nn e' da sottovalutare niente
quindi seguite i consigli che vi diamo alla fine lo facciamo per il vostro bene

uno dei consigli e' : non lasciare soldi negli exchange

La sicurezza é un aspetto fondamentale di bitcoin. Si deve continuare a studiare, ma anche adattare il proprio modello di sicurezza alle mutate condizioni, sia personali, che tecnologiche.
Per questo ben vengano i bug, che migliorano i prodotti passati ed anche futuri, introducendo nuovi test ed accorgimenti.
1730  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: BITCOIN PUMP! on: August 18, 2023, 09:05:09 PM

 Il mercato crollerà? Non lo so, ma se succederà sarà di nuovo il genio che ha predetto il futuro, se non succederà la gente scorderà in fretta...
Tra l’altro Micheal Burry non ha propriamente “scommesso” sul calo del mercato, ma ha semplicemente comprato delle put, per un’ammontare nozionale pari al valore del proprio portafoglio. Diciamo pure che é hedgiato, indifferente a cali o risalite. Man mano che però il tempo passa ritorna ad essere “lungo”, man mano che ci si avvicina alla scadenza delle opzioni.
1731  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 18, 2023, 08:12:14 PM
Ugly Friday Re-down

Good it’s summer and hot outside… to shaken things of a bit

I always prefer the Pumping Stifler Gif.
I know I can stack more sats like this, but bull markets are great for the memes.

Much needed Hopium from @Planb

1732  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: [Meta] Andamento sezione italiana on: August 18, 2023, 07:32:00 PM
E questo naturalmente è solo un esempio: il turismo da noi è davvero "lasciato al caso" o all'iniziativa del privato, quando invece dovrebbe essere incentivato come una tra le più grandi risorse del paese.


Beh, anche ACCOR è un privato. Spero che tu non stia auspicando una “nazionalizzazione” del turismo.
Comunque si, certo, anche nel turismo, come in tutte le imprese italiane, la difficoltà è nello “scalare”.


Sono tutte considerazioni interessantissime, ma teniamo in topic il thread?
Magari creiamo un altro in OT.
1733  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: The story of Betnomi.com (Exit Scam) on: August 18, 2023, 08:31:30 AM

I guess you are manually doing what the ledger live app is doing behind the curtain.
Don't trust, verify.

Yes, this is exactly what I did.
Excellent.
Your guide inspired me so much I decided I am going to do that as well.
Maybe your wallet wasn’t tampered, but mine was!
Even if I vaguely remember the Ledger App certified that as genuine.
1734  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [WARNING] Whirlwind.money - withdrawals are not being processed ⚠️ on: August 18, 2023, 08:09:22 AM
But I don't know why did they left $40k in escrow with minerjones.
They agreed to a 7 day delay. They couldn't withdraw from escrow to pull an exit scam.
Maybe it’s too early to do this kind of speculation, as I still haven’t received my amounts from MinerJones, but provided that he doesn’t scam (sorry for even thinking about this)
I am trying to figure out what we could have learned from this.

Shall a signature wearer not use the service he was advertising (namely: transfer any amount out of it asap because of NYKNYC)?
Shall a signature wearer use the service and be fully accountable, in a harsh way, for any losses?
Maybe a new "standard" of a reputable escrow should be initiated for any sig campaign? This has obvious implications for anyone willing to start a new one for the associated cost. And also maybe for the escrow.

1735  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Help me translate my best posts in your Local Board on: August 18, 2023, 07:12:53 AM

I will, please post the translation with the correct format:



RULE UPDATE
In order to speed up the update process, please submit the notice of the translation in the following format:

Polish Translation by cygan: 5 sposobów informowania zwykłych konsumentów o Bitcoinie

Customise where necessary.

Lot of translations has been made in a while which is good by the way and @fillippone different useful threads now have vast audience from the local boards so keep these efforts up and he might be busy from a few time but sooner we may see another of the threads being represented by him that's again available for translation in various languages.

I am very happy about the support and the success of this initiative.
As you say, now I feel the weight of the task in providing more material to be translated!
1736  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Mastering Bitcoin: la seconda edizione ora anche in italiano on: August 17, 2023, 11:03:27 PM



Grazi per la segnalazione, non ho mai sentito questo wallet ma dopo quello che hai detto non penso proprio di provarlo. Il forum da questo punto di vista salva proprio la vita.

Libbitcoin non è un wallet, ma una libreria Bitcoin che permette il funzionamento proprio dei Wallet .
Qualsiasi wallet generato da quella libreria è da considerarsi “bucato” in quanto passibile di “swipe” immediato da parte di un ipotetico attaccante
1737  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] Whirlwind.money | ⚡No Fee⚡ | Ultimate Privacy | Anonymity Mining 12% APR🔥 on: August 17, 2023, 01:05:14 PM

Code:
DAI (ERC-20) Address for repayment: 

Can someone advise which wallet to use for a DAI address?
At a later stage I will also ask how to convert this shitcoin into proper real money.
1738  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [WARNING] Whirlwind.money - withdrawals are not being processed ⚠️ on: August 17, 2023, 11:14:54 AM
I was holding my campaign rewards on the website, and just when I ended the campaign all the drama started. Horrible timing.
You didn't withdraw any of your ww signature campaign earnings? Damn, and I thought me holding 5 weeks of signature campaign money (+last week's earning that no one can withdraw) was a bad move...

I did once, but I had some good money there. As I said I tested the system and it worked flawlessy.

Also, I had faith in the campaign manager.

This is something that I should be more careful about in the future: as I cannot claim Hhampuz responsible for anything, also I cannot think WW we're to be trusted because it has a campaign managed by Hhampuz.
1739  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [WARNING] Whirlwind.money - withdrawals are not being processed ⚠️ on: August 17, 2023, 10:53:53 AM
I will support flag against them, but I still have small hope they will return coins, and they still have time to fix damages they made.

Now that you mention it: Do signature campaigns that pay in "IOUs" even belong on the Services board? Or should they be moved to the Altcoin board?
I think campaign manager should be responsible for supporting this.
I dont know who came up with that stupid idea to pay campaign participants with worthless IOU notes, but this only helped whirlwind exit scam easier.
Is there any way for members to get paid for their loses if they can prove they have coins stuck in whirlwind?

I participated in a few campaign where the payout was paid in the advertised service. I never had a problem with that and I was used to keep the stash on that for this exact reason. Of course I had a small fortune in WW, but it is another lesson learned.
Did you send your own coins or it was from payments in signature campaign?
I hope you can get refunded for your loses.

I tested the service indipendently and it worked. I was holding my campaign rewards on the website, and just when I ended the campaign all the drama started. Horrible timing.
1740  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [WARNING] Whirlwind.money - withdrawals are not being processed ⚠️ on: August 17, 2023, 10:14:06 AM
I don't know about you, but I think the whole idea of paying users in notes was kind of risky, in case they didn't work, and I guess now we see why; because they depend on the operator's presence to redeem.
After the discussion about privacy for campaign participants, it made sense. There's a risk involved, but that's the same risk they advertised for others in their signature. It forced the campaign participants to "put their money where their mouth is".

I participated in a few campaign where the payout was paid in the advertised service. I never had a problem with that and I was used to keep the stash on that for this exact reason. Of course I had a small fortune in WW, but it is another lesson learned.
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