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1721  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your doubt has no effect on gambling. on: October 23, 2023, 05:17:46 PM


Yesterday, I booked a bet, but, fine if difficult to stake, because I thought the game was going to be lost. But here it is I won the best. I stake the bet at $0.13, and I won $49 in total. I have gotten several winnings in the past week, but I would like to say that I didn't expect the game to play accordingly the way I predicted it. Why? Because I haven't bet on the same predictions throughout all the games before, but yesterday I did it. That's why I said I didn't expect to win the game.

A friend of mine always says, game way go cut, go cut and game way go enter, go enter, and yes that's true, this game was supposed to, play accordingly, and it finally did, even with my doubts.

However, I will say that even your doubt can not make a game that you are supposed to win lose, because gambling doesn't work with mindset, it works with the risk and not your fear. Why the risk is because if you don't risk your money in gamble, you will not lose or even win.

We cannoy just predict the outcome of the gambling and hope that it is always in our favour. Most cases the gambling results and the betting results are different from which we analysed and thought about them initially.

Now how to deal with this uncertainty of results? Well nothing is that a gambler cannot deal with this uncertainty as all the games depend upon the luck and in some cases the dependency of luck is more than other cases like sports betting where there is less factor of luck but still the results are not grantted.

We can only deal in this situation with our money management skills so that the matter we win or lose we know that we don't risk big positions.
1722  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: October 23, 2023, 05:05:05 PM
Well they have money to spend so what we can expect for them? And yeah having lots of ads everywhere cannot guarantee that they are legit platform since we all see that on the exchange you mentioned and also the casino where we are discussing on, that's the reason we should look up to on  that schemes since some of them just trying to fasten up their success then scam their costumers once they reach a lot of money stored in their platform. Scamming is rampant in crypto industry and we can't stop platform to do that since there are huge money at stake and sometimes those good platform turn into worse especially they see a lot of money piling up on their platform that's why those people will think about taking it since this is the most easiest thing to do just to earn that fast cash.

I do not know about other social media platforms but thank god that they have stopped their advertisement on this forum.

If you remember, they have a long running signature campaign on this forum and the unique thing about that signature campaign was that it was run by all the red tag members who were spammers one way or the other. Eventually I think that 1xbet realized that they could not fool people and could not convince people to play at their site and hence they stopped their signature campaign.
1723  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: October 23, 2023, 03:21:27 PM
Afghanistan is quite strong at the moment. The winning probability that was in favour of Pakistan before the start of Afghanistan innings have now moved in favour of Afghanistan. The winning probability was now 75% in favour of Afghanistan even after the wicket of the best performer Gurbaz who scored 65 from 53 balls. Zadran is playing good and someone needs to support, so that he can continue to score and stand wicket. Lets see if Afghanistan can make this a record winning match.
Currently, Afghanistan run scores about 184 and they loose only one wicket after 32 over. They need more 99 run from 18 overs. The current run rate is over 5.75  and the required run rate is about 5.5 so there is no doubt that they are in a good condition right now. So in today's match I think Afghanistan will win very easily.
Although Pakistan is slightly ahead of Afghanistan in terms of strength, they are going to lose this match today because of Pakistan's bowling performance. Pakistani bowling performance today is not promising. Although I do not have much comment on their batting performance.Because 282 is not a bad score as per ODI format, if they could have done a bit better in bowling performance today then I think they would have more chances to win this match. Anyway, I think Afghanistan will be able to pick up their second win with this match.


In the current situation, Pakistan's winning chances are less and Afghanistan's winning chances are more, which is a sad thing for Pakistan which was a stronger team initially.

The team of Pakistan has 18 chances and the team of Afghanistan has 81 chances to win according to Cricinfo. Pakistan bowlers should need to try to out Ibrahim Zadran because he is playing very well. What timing, I am saying that Pakistan bowlers need to try to out Ibrahim Zadran and Hassan Ali just get rid of him. I think this is the best time ever for Pakistan if they want to come back in this match.

Anyway, this is a great opportunity for Pakistan to come back into the game by taking some quick wickets and getting them really quickly.
1724  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Fake casino streamers! Why such streamers are very popular? on: October 23, 2023, 03:08:49 PM

I’m not sure what this article trying to point out because the author is assuming that streamers should use real money to be called as legit streamers while a simple streaming of gambling even using play money can be called a legit streamer because they are streaming. They are not faking their stream and it’s up to the viewers if they will take seriously what the streamer saying.

So they mean that the streamers should use their own personal money to gamble and stream and not use the play money? What could be the intention of this wish? They want the streamer to lose his own money too which streaming for the viewers? This is just a strange wish by the author of that article.

I would just say one thing if the streamers are producing fake streams, still they are popular, meaning that people are happy seeing those streams and they like the content which is produced by those streamers.
1725  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Play equal to deposited funds before you can withdraw on: October 23, 2023, 02:55:32 PM
I also call BS for any platform who requires more than 10x and hell up to 50x as it's more likely that these platforms expects players to lose. You can't even do a dice game with minimal odds like 1.1x more than 5 times without losing and they expect you to bet more than 10 time the deposited amount. These platforms should be avoided at all cost.
The only time I find the casino requires 10x to 50x wagering is when they are giving bonuses. It is obvious that the casino don't want to be part with the amount they give without making player to wager with such requirement.  I find it somehow reasonable because the player got the fund for free but I find it BS for those reward and bonuses that requires huge multiplier after completing several task.  I also known then pain of undergoing such requirement because it is really hard to meet the huge multiplier requirement if one is not having a lucky day.




Well, that's the part of the game as the gambling sites will not give you anything for free. Even with the bonus they give you, they will make sure that you do enough wager that it becomes very hard for you to fulfil the wagering requirements. And since the bonus is the free money which the gambling site gives us, they have the right to put any wagering requirement they think is suitable. I personally think that bonus are not meant to cash out but to have fun with the free money.

For the deposits, they will usually give a 1x wagering requirement and that is justified too as you deposit money for gambling, it is necessary to gamble with it at least once.
1726  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: October 23, 2023, 12:53:09 AM
Both does great job in most of the matches played by India. Rohit is giving good start to the innings. When there comes good opening partnership,  automatically the upcoming players on the squad will perform better. This should not turn to be over confident during the upcoming matches. Such mentality would easily cause the players down the performance and lead to failure in

India showed their class in this match and proved that they can come back in the match through responsible batting even down the order. First, their bowlers did a remarkable job restricting New Zealand to under 300 runs and they gave very few runs from the 40 - 50 overs of the New Zealand innings and did not let the New Zealand team run away with the match.

When it comes tp the batting, Virat Kohli and the other players really stood up and never let the match out of hand. It was a show of great planning and commitment. The urge to win was clearly seen among all the Indian players.

The only sad part of the match was that Virat Kohli was not able to complete his century. He really deserved the century, didn't he?
1727  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🌀 [banned mixer] - CONTEST ICC MENS WC 2023 AND DISCUSSION | Free Entry on: October 23, 2023, 12:39:08 AM
which team do you think will beat India first?

If the Indian team is unbeaten in the first stage of the tournament, then we may see a big upset in the semi final or the final of the ICC World Cup where Indian team might lose to any team and are out of the World Cup. I never see a team winning a World Cup by winning all the matches. Let's see if the history changes this time and India wins the World Cup with a 100% winning ratio.

For today's match, my predictions are as below.

Pakistan Vs Afghanistan

Toss win: Afghanistan
Team win: Pakistan
Best Batsmen: Baber Azam
Best bowler:  Shaheen Shah Afridi
1728  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A Nigeria socialite went all in on this sport bet on: October 22, 2023, 05:52:02 PM
Pure marketing purposes. They surely partner to the casino they place bet since there’s no sense for an influencer to post such betslip without getting anything from it. I don’t consider a bet like this that put with a real analysis since they will not resort on being influencer if they are really into sports betting.
It could be for marketing purposes because the name of the betting platform is clearly written on it or it might be he wanted to show off. We've this popular saying in my locality which simply says "put your mouth where your money is". It might be that he had bragged about the game with his friends that Arsenal was going to win the game, and to show how serious he was, he had to stake heavily on it. However, I do not welcome the idea of sharing the bet slip on social media, he could have just sent it directly to his friends via PM.


I disliked two things about this gentleman. First, he shared his winning publicly which not only may create problems for him in the long run (that's his problem) but more importantly other gamblers may become sad and jealous when they see other people winning so much money and they are just losing money every day.

Secondly, I see the subject as he went "All - IN" for this bet. Is it so?
Again this gives the wrong message to the gamblers to risk a lot of money or going "all in"  in the bets. If one time he got lucky, does not mean that risking too much money on every bet will be successful for him or anyone gambling.
1729  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: October 22, 2023, 05:27:57 PM
274 runs are not a good target by the way. New Zealand has a good bowling line and already got 2 wickets. India's Current Run Rate is quite good. If the players will hold the wickets so India has much more chances to win this match. Both teams are trying well to win but at this time India has the chances to win.
It's true that 274 is not a decent defendable target against a strong indian Lineup, but I still believe that NewZeland will give a tough time to them because thier bowler are in form and didn't even miss a single opportunity to departure thier main batters and they does. At early stage of second innings things were completely in favour of indian team but now things are little bit diverting toward NewZeland because now the only hope for them are Kohli if NewZeland manage to dismissed them then I think rest of the player hasn't ability to full fill required target at such pressure situation. Now let's see who will break thier winning streak.

India won the match and the player of the match award goes to Mohammed Shami. I don’t need to ask because everyone knows the reason why Mohammed Shami is the player of the match, but I think that if New Zealand would have won today’s match then the player of the match award goes to Daryl Mitchell because he hit a century and cricinfo also predicted him the player of the match in their opinion and it also suggests the player of the match should be Daryl Mitchell.

I can explain why cricinfo predicted him man of the match as the reason is he hit a century and if he didn't hit 100+ runs at that moment, the New Zealand team would clearly lose in a very bad way and New Zealand would have lost with much bad run rate.
1730  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Not keeping records makes me a bad gambler? on: October 22, 2023, 04:58:03 PM
Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

The gambling site where you gamble contains all your history of the games played and your wins and losses too are recorded there. So I don't think that we need to keep track of all our wins and losses separately. Also since we play many games, it is not possible to keep a trace of each game and write it down as we win or lose it.

Personally, I will keep track of my money being deposited in the gambling site and the money which I withdraw from the gambling site. The difference between the two can determine if I am in an overall winning position or at the losing end.
1731  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: October 22, 2023, 02:20:34 PM
274 runs are not a good target by the way. New Zealand has a good bowling line and already got 2 wickets. India's Current Run Rate is quite good. If the players will hold the wickets so India has much more chances to win this match. Both teams are trying well to win but at this time India has the chances to win.

The match was halted because of the FOG. Yes, the play has not stopped due to rain but it is the fog due to which the play has stopped. This is the first time i am hearing that the match has stopped because of the fog.

I do not know how the fog will be cleared and if it is not, both teams will get one point each. New Zealand are clearly struggling at the moment and if this match does not resume, both the teams will get 1 point each. This may be a bonus point for New Zealand and they will be happy to take it.
India, on the other hand, would want the play to resume so they can register the win and get the 2 well deserved points.
1732  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ICC WORLD CUP 2023 ACTUAL DISCUSSION THREAD! on: October 22, 2023, 01:04:06 PM
New Zealand are doing what other teams so far have failed to do against the Indian team, tackling Indian spinners beautifully in the middle order and not allowing them to set in and take wickets.

Indians are surely missing 6th bowling option today but that's a test you have to pass when Pandaya is not around. Rachin is turning out to be a fantastic find for the Kiwis.

Indian fielding today has been the worst. Spinners are struggling to get wickets, whereas they were unstoppable with other teams. The Newzealand team has now a run rate of above 5 they still have 9 overs left. They have lost 4 wickets but Mitchell is still batting on 102. They need 70 more ru s to get to 300 which would be a good target to defend.
New Zealand 273 All Out at the end of 50 Overs. Daryl Mitchell Genius of an Innings 130 runs in 127 Balls One Man Show. Muhammad Shami Brilliant figures as he played his first match today.  Muhammad Shami picked up 5 wickets haul amazing fast bowling performance by giving 54 runs in 10 Overs. New Zealand Scored a good total of 273 runs, courtesy of a formidable 159-run partnership between Rachin Ravindra and Daryl Mitchell. India bowlers picked 6 wickets in the final six overs. India have strong batting line they need 274 runs to win and easly win this match.


The next innings started in a few moments and the New Zealand team couldn’t reach 300 but no problem because they also did very well scores. The New Zealand team has fear of Rohit Sharma because in previous matches he made very good runs. I think that New Zealand can chase 300 if Kane Williamson plays in today's match but sadly he can’t take place in playing 11 because of a thumb injury.

I think that if India wins today’s match so the player of the match is Muhammad Shami because he took five wickets haul and the others just took one or a maximum of two.
1733  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: October 22, 2023, 07:31:43 AM
There will be a challenging cricket match between India and New Zealand as both the teams are at the top of the table New Zealand won their 4 out of 4 matches in this world cup and also India has won their 4 matches and had already played 4. But due to a high run rate New Zealand is in 1st position of the points table while India is in 2nd position.

Both have a strong batting lineup and they have also some best bowlers, but comparing these two New Zealand has better bowlers than India as they have Trent Boult as their opening pacer who bowls well during the powerplay overs. As India has Jasprit Bumrah who also bowls well. Comparing them head to head in One Day International games they played 62 ODI Matches with India has got victory in 22 matches and New Zealand has got victory in 13 matches while the remaining 27 matches they played were drawn. Looking at this India will be the favorite for tomorrow's match.

To be honest it is not easy to decide who will win this important match between the two top teams. Both teams have some special players who on a day can win the match single handedly. It's just that batsmen and bowlers will show a better play on a given day.

I just wanted to see if the bookies still favour the Indian team too for today's match and yes, they are supporting India to win.  Smiley



It is not possible to make any predictions about New Zealand and India in this World Cup because India and New Zealand have not lost any match so far. However, India have played a total of four matches opting to bat in each match where their top batsmen have finished the game unbeaten. India defeated Australia by 6 wickets, Afghanistan by 8 wickets, Pakistan and Bangladesh by 7 wickets. If you can bat in the second innings in today's match, what are the chances of winning against New Zealand?

In that case, you can wait and bet after the toss. If toss has an advantage in the game, the gambling sites will give you different odds of the teams after the toss.

Also in such close matches like India and New Zealand where it is difficult to pick one team, it is better not to bet at the start of the match. Let the match begin and then when you see one team having an edge over the other team, you can bet on that team. You may not get good odds at that moment, but still, you will have more probabilities & chances of winning the bet.
1734  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you cheat in gambling? on: October 22, 2023, 06:27:57 AM
There have been reports of a number of casinos cheating. Even though there was no way to verify these reports, there is still the possibility of them  being true in some cases.

You are right that casinos can easily cheat by giving them more advantage by implement 5% or 10% house edge and claim that their house edge is standard that is 1% house edge. In most cases, we cannot verify the house edge of the casino until one play at the casino and feel that they lose more than they win.

From the side of the players, I still do not understand how it will be possible to cheat the casinos, unless through hacking which is rare.

From players point of view, some may apply certain strategies like Martingale that is to double your bet on a loss and reduce your bet back to original once you win. These type of strategies may not fall into cheating category but casino may treat them as cheating.

By the way, i don't find any strategies in gambling, where a gambler can only win and never lose.
1735  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: October 22, 2023, 04:43:43 AM
There will be a challenging cricket match between India and New Zealand as both the teams are at the top of the table New Zealand won their 4 out of 4 matches in this world cup and also India has won their 4 matches and had already played 4. But due to a high run rate New Zealand is in 1st position of the points table while India is in 2nd position.

Both have a strong batting lineup and they have also some best bowlers, but comparing these two New Zealand has better bowlers than India as they have Trent Boult as their opening pacer who bowls well during the powerplay overs. As India has Jasprit Bumrah who also bowls well. Comparing them head to head in One Day International games they played 62 ODI Matches with India has got victory in 22 matches and New Zealand has got victory in 13 matches while the remaining 27 matches they played were drawn. Looking at this India will be the favorite for tomorrow's match.

To be honest it is not easy to decide who will win this important match between the two top teams. Both teams have some special players who on a day can win the match single handedly. It's just that batsmen and bowlers will show a better play on a given day.

I just wanted to see if the bookies still favour the Indian team too for today's match and yes, they are supporting India to win.  Smiley





1736  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🌀 [banned mixer] - CONTEST ICC MENS WC 2023 AND DISCUSSION | Free Entry on: October 22, 2023, 03:50:31 AM
Today my Prediction for the 21 match of world cup played between NewZealand and India at. This match is going to be very interesting beacuse India and NewZealand are unbeaten at World cup. NewZealand is top on points table with 8 points and India is 2nd on Points table but they having good chances to win this match.

Since both the teams, India and New Zealand are unbeaten, this match may decide who will finish at the top of the table. Remember that the team who will top on the points table will play with the number fourth team (which is a weaker team as compared to the 2nd and 3rd number teams).

Although i am not sure who can win this match but I will go with India only because this match is being played on Indian home ground.

India Vs New Zealand

Toss win:   India
Team win: India
Best Batsmen: Rohit Sharma
Best bowler: Ravindra Jadeja
1737  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: October 21, 2023, 03:38:34 PM
In the Netherlands vs SriLankaNetherlands  match, the Netherlands set Sri Lanka a huge target of 262 runs. SriLanka is performing well. SriLanka need 159 runs in 33.1 overs to win. Which is not unusual if they bat well they can win easily. The Netherlands will have to play at their best at the moment then SriLanka will be under some pressure.

At one time Netherlands were 91 for six wickets down. At that time Sybrand Engelbrecht and Logan van Beek made a partnership of 130 runs and due to this, Netherlands were able to score 262 runs. This gives their bowlers something to bowl at and at one moment I thought that the Netherlands might win the match if they were able to take some quick wickets for Srilanka.

However, the Sri lanka batsmen have other plans and they bat with responsibility. Sadeera Samarawickrama made 91 not out while their opener Pathum Nissanka made 54 runs and Srilanka was able to chase this score in the 48th over. A good win for Srilanka but they need to win all their matches in order to stand a chance to reach the Top 4.
1738  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Much do you Value your Privacy in Gambling? on: October 21, 2023, 12:15:09 PM
I personally care about it enough that I am sure they will not share it with my government since it would be illegal for me to play in a foreign casino. If I trust that they will not share it with my government, then I am fine about it.

And 99% of the places do not share it, so I can easily give my KYC without a worry, it doesn't really change much and doesn't really end up making it any different, we just need to end up with something that would be a little bit different. I know that not a lot of people end up with something that would be a lot worse or better, we just need to end up with something that needs to be secret enough from outside sources. Me sharing it with the casino is fine, it would be not fine if they share it with someone else.
One the terms and conditions of about gambling companies is never to share their customers personal data to any third party unless it happens that a customer involves himself in any illegal engagement in the company that requires them to provide personal information to a third party and most times the third party will always be a legal firm. So that's why I don't think anyone should be worried in providing their personal information to gambling companies except the person in question has in engaged in some illegal activities.

How can you be sure that the KYC data stored at the gambling sites is secure with them and they may only produce them to a legal firm on demand? Why can't they misuse the data without even us knowing about it? There is no guarantee of our KYC data as to how it may be used. Yes, we can trust the gambling sites to safeguard our data, but we can only hope so.

Some people will say that KYC done at trusted sites is safe, but it is not. It does not matter if you do KYC on a trusted site or a non-trusted one, the risk may be more in non-trusted sites but you can't be sure even on the credibility of the popular gambling sites.
1739  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: October 21, 2023, 07:12:53 AM
So today Netherlands and Sri Lanka wil face each others. Netherlands already surprised us when they were against South Africa. So today Netherlands can gice surprise again. Because Sri Lanka has very bad performance in this world cup and we can see Sri Lanka in the bottom in points table. Netherlands have much better performance as compare to Sri Lanka.
If Netherlands will win today match so Netherlands will be in the list of 4 points. And will compete with South Africa Pakistan and Australia. So let's see who will win todays match.

At this time, the match can go in favor of Sri Lanka team because the Netherlands plays very poorly. The twenty overs were passed and the Netherlands couldn’t complete 100 scores and also, they lost 5 wickets, so it’s clearly a chance for the loss of the Netherlands, and just now one more wicket hit and all the batsmen of Netherlands lost a wicket and now bowlers are forced to do the job of batting. I think the Netherlands all-team would be out in the 30 to 35 overs,

This is also a great chance for Sri Lanka to grow their run rate and points. They should not miss this opportunity and win by a big margin.
1740  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I think gambling is inbuilt, kids don't learn it anywhere, they do it! on: October 21, 2023, 04:02:37 AM
I dont think any nation can actually put a ban on gambling and it will be effective because  millions of people are already addicted to the game,and they can't come out of it.This will just be a mere threat ,so that the people who looked as if their lifes depended on Gambling will try and be responsible for good.Another reason why I think  gambling will be impossible to stop is because gambling is now something people do online,it doesn't only require one to go to a gambling center or cansino shop before one will be able to gamble,anyone can gamble these days with their phone from their house,and that is what is actually making gambling gather more fans than losing them.

There are countries where gambling is actually banned. Most of these are those countries where gambling is prohibited by the religion more than by the law.

Just like no one can ban cryptocurrencies, it is impossible to ban online gambling sites but when the government publicly announce that gambling is not allowed in the country, you will see a dent in the number of people accessing the gambling sites and playing. Not everyone wants to bypass the laws and do whatever they like. Some may stop gambling and obey government laws. These prohibited gambling rules definitely have some impact, if not 100% effective.
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