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2141  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: What is the minimal transaction fee for 10$ usd or 1000$ usd? on: August 13, 2023, 05:58:06 PM
It says that low prio free is 8 sta/vB is $0.33
Does it mean that I will pay $0.33 for a transaciton of 10$ and the same for a transaction of $1000?
Yes. No. Maybe.

Bitcoin transaction are based on the number of outputs, not the value of those outputs. If I have a single output of 1 BTC, then to spend that I only need to pay for one output. If I have ten outputs of 0.0001 BTC, then to spend that I will need to pay for all ten outputs. It will be cheaper for me to spend one output of 1 BTC than it would be for me to spend ten outputs of 0.0001 BTC, even though those ten outputs of 0.0001 BTC are only worth a fraction of the one output of 1 BTC.

An analogy is like sending cash in the post, where you are charged for the weight of the cash you are sending. If I send a single $100 bill it will be very cheap. If I send a few dozen coins it will be very expensive, even though the total value of the coins will be much less than that of the $100 bill.

The $0.33 flat fee given by mempool.space is based on an "average" segwit transaction which spends a single input (regardless of the value of that input). If your $10 payment and your $1000 payment are both from a single input, then yes, they will pay the same fee. If they require more than one input, then the total fee will vary, although the fee rate (in satoshis per virtual byte, or sats/vbyte) will remain the same.

Yes, i myself have experienced it here Electrum Wallet RBF Feature and learned that Tx fees depend upon the number of outputs and it does not matter if the value of those outputs is big or small.

I assume that most people have this wrong perception in mind that the bigger the value of the amount being transferred from one wallet to another, the higher will be the fee when in reality it is not. Once I came to know about it the whole bitcoin fee structure thing has changed in my mind and now I see the tx fee in the right context.
2142  Economy / Gambling / Re: HIT A JACKPOT on BITCASINO.IO - WILL I BE PAID? MY JOURNEY HERE. on: August 13, 2023, 05:40:01 PM
The OP has an evidence for winningthat huge jackpot price on hacksaw gaming that makes him finish the requirements in huge profit. I don't see any reason here for his profit will hold due to his proof of winnings on slot.

A good gambling site will never stop or delay the withdrawals to their customers, however, the scammed ones may be looking to find several excuses for not letting them to pay the gambler.


Thank you guys for all the kind words!

Still no update tho.
No email, no ask to KYC , just withdrawl is still on pending. Will keep you all updated


I would say that you will be lucky if you will be able to cash out this amount without the site demanding the KYC.

By the way, once you get the withdrawal, share with us the withdrawal successful screenshot from BitCasino.
2143  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: August 13, 2023, 05:03:54 PM
In today's 5th t-20 match between West Indies and India, India won the toss and batted first to score 161 runs for the loss of 8 wickets in 19.4 overs. Only two balls left in the first innings. Unfortunately rain intervened before two balls were over. The match has now been stopped due to rain.  It is expected that the match will resume once the rain clears in a while. In today's match, Indian team players did not play very well in the beginning of the game. If the players of the Indian team could have batted well in the fast order, they could have made a big score. Now let's wait and see how well India can bowl in the second innings after the rain ends

Well, India still manages to make 169 runs but this does not seem to be a match winning score. Thanks to the innings of 65 runs by Suryakumar Yadav which helped them reach this total. The openers once again were unable to deliver.

The match is not out of hand for India yet. They may still win this one if they manage to take some quick West Indies wickets. Kyle Mayers is out on 10 and WI is 18-1 after 2 overs. I would call it a good start by them provided they do not lose more wickets in the next few overs. West Indies have their chance too in this match and series. It will be a big test for the Indian bowlers to restrict them.

2144  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Wagering - share your opinion on: August 13, 2023, 02:21:08 PM
Dear all,
Here to discuss wagering.
Wagering is an activity to redeem gambling bonuses, increase the rank of your account in a casino and a whole series of other advantages ...
Share your opinion and what are your tips or tricks on this topic

In my opinion, bonuses and other goodies are not worth the amounts that you have to wager to get them. Even if you play games where the house edge is minimal (say 1%), it is unlikely that your bonus will be $10 per thousand, but your average loss will be just that. Maybe it makes sense to look for sports betting in different bookmakers, but it's not easy since the bookmaker's advantage is quite large - 4-6%.

Most of the times, the gamblers will not be able to make use of bonus and promotions but instead they would lose more money in order to fulfill the wagering requirements.

Good for those who want to gamble but got some additional money in terms deposit bonus, but not good if any gamblers purposefully deposit more in order to avail that bonus on deposits.

Another aspect is that gambling sites will give deposit bonus on new signup and that is obvious , they want more gamblers to make an account on their site and then deposit too.
2145  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: August 13, 2023, 05:13:12 AM
In both the matches that India had won, West Indies have won the toss and decided to bat. In the first match India failed to chase and reach the target. As said, in the last two matches Indian batsmen have played really well and the same have helped in winning the match and level the series. For West Indies it is Hope and Hetmyer who did the best and took the score close to 180 runs which is really hard to be chased. Indian batsmen have reached it in a much easier way. The final match is going to be very interesting as the winner is to lift the trophy.
Exactly the Indian team surprised everyone. Because if we took a look on the very first match of the this series so we will see that West Indies made only 149 runs and India was unable to chase that target. But in the last match West Indies made 178 runs and I was one of them who was thinking that this is really hard to chase for Indian team. But Indian team chased it within 17 overs and with only one wicket loss that was amazing.
By the way now the series is at 2-2. There is a big final and this will be very interesting so let's wait for it and will be played today in Lauderhill again.

India's players have proved that they have the ability to bat against big targets and win. At the same time, they also proved that it was not a wrong decision by BCCI to give them a lot of opportunities. We enjoyed a great innings. India's two openers destroyed the West Indies bowlers. India's two openers made a huge partnership of 165 runs in the first wicket pair. The performance of the West Indies bowlers was not good. They seemed unenthusiastic about my match.

Apart from West Indies' Akel Hossain and Holder, no bowler's performance was controlled. Every bowler has given plenty of runs. The players in this Indian squad are talented. They have the ability to beat big teams. But the problem is that their performance is not consistent. And this is one reason why they will fall behind so much. If they want to do well on big platforms, it is important to maintain consistency in performance.

I knew that India will win this match and will not let go the series. This was an easy bet match if you know the circumstances of the current series.

Well, we saying the Indian openers are not in good form and they need to play responsibly but they proof us wrong. In this match both the openers single handedly won the match for India. The West Indies scored 178 runs and it was on the higher side. But when Yashasvi Jaiswal
and Shubman Gill , this score looked very small and they won the match for the Indian team and levelled the series.

Today is the fifth and final match to be played between them and believe me India are favourites for this match after their previous two matches' performances.
2146  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Electrum Wallet RBF Feature on: August 13, 2023, 04:57:19 AM
I can see that OP has bumped his fee again, this time to 7 sats/vbyte, and his transaction has now confirmed. I would also suggest to OP that I don't know where he is getting his bitcoin from, but receiving >40 outputs to the same address, some of only a few thousand sats, is a very inefficient way to use bitcoin. You should try to receive larger amounts less frequently if you can. And given that almost all of those outputs predate the current surge in fees, I don't know why you've chosen to consolidate them now when you could have consolidated them at 1 sat/vbyte almost any time over the past year.

Yes, i again increased the fee to 7 sat/vbyte and got my transaction confirmed but i was wondering why i got so high fee. If i remember it correctly it was around 0.00021064.

After reading your post, i came to know that even if we receive small amounts on the SAME bitcoin address, when we withdraw from that wallet, it will detuct a lot of fee. Don't know the reason for this as all the bitcoin are in the same wallet address.

Another thing was that i only send around 5$ to some address, why it used a change address in the transaction and move all my funds to a new address in my wallet. Maybe this was the reason of high fee  Huh  

How to send to certain wallet without using the change address  Huh

Another question is that since the fee these days is always above 6Sat/vbyte usually, when can we perform that consolidations as you mentioned ?
2147  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA Women’s World Cup 2023 on: August 13, 2023, 04:41:28 AM
Australia's match against France will start in a few hours but this can be said as a home match for Australia it's just that I'm not too sure Australia can take advantage of a home game to win.
Odds of 2.17 are decent enough odds to have an advantage for those taking bets on France.
Actually, this match between the two is difficult to predict and confirm who will win, but because France has always performed quite well so far, there is a high probability that France can beat Australia.

I will have a look in the next few minutes when the match has started to be able to make predictions that can be bet.
Let me give you a summary of it because it has already ended. In the first half, we saw several close chances for both teams, but the goalkeepers and tenacious defenses held their ground. Australia looked to press high and create opportunities, while France relied on their technical prowess and intricate passing to penetrate the Australian defense. While the French defense successfully neutralized Australia's attacking threats as the second half got underway, the intensity of the game continued to rise and the players displayed amazing energy and desire. The Australian goalkeeper produced a number of vital saves to thwart France's attempts. That Australia won is what is even most surprising to me. I never expected it. I judged them based on their performances in their previous games. France disappointed me and I will not forgive them.

This was no doubt one of the most intense games in this women's fifa world cup. Australia made history by winning it on penalties 7-6 and moving ahead to the semi finals where they will play against the strong England team.
Also, this win was so important for all the Australian fans because this is the very first time that any Australian team, whether it be men or women, have managed to move ahead in the semi finals of the Fifal world cup.

As far as France is concerned, they had their chances, but they fail to capitalize on them. I remember that in the last women's world cup, the France team lost in the quarterfinals and this time too they could not win the quarterfinals.
2148  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA Women’s World Cup 2023 on: August 12, 2023, 09:03:45 AM

Most of the people are supporting France which is kinda obvious but if Australia somehow wins then it will be a pretty good reward for them.
The odds are better on Stake when compared to freebitco.in. I usually bet on freebitco.in but it seems that I might have to reconsider it.


I always find the stake odds much better than the other betting sites and also you will find a larger variety of games to bet on Stake.com as compared to freebitco or other sites. Stake has full-fledged sports section which can be found here https://stake.com/sports/home

Coming to the match, it is a draw at full time 90 minutes, Both Australian and the France women's team are unable to score any goal and it is right now tied at 0-0.
We are going into the extra time and if the score still remains level, plenty kicks will decide the fate of this quarterfinal match.
2149  Economy / Services / Re: [CFNP] Mixin Safe - Decentralized Bitcoin Custody Solutions | Review Campaign on: August 12, 2023, 08:02:27 AM
Bitcointalk username: noormcs5

Review for Mixin Safe


Configuring Mornin key
I started by creating the Mornin key. For this when i visited the playstore, i found that it was not free and required payment to install it. However, since I do not have the payment method configured in order to purchase the app, i decided to install the APK version of it.
Once installed, i backed the mnemonic phrase in order to secure my account.




Configuring Mixin messenger

Now I installed the Mixin Messenger again from playstore. It was free and there was no payment. I verified it and it ask me the PIN 4 times and then it was all set up. Easy and quick setup process.
I explored the wallet and it supported many cryptocurrencies. The interface was clean too. I did not deposit any amount here directly because i will use the Mixin Safe to deposit.

Configuring Mixin Safe

To do this, i go to the Mixin Safe Dashboard https://safe.mixin.zone/start and followed the step by step instructions there. The first thing i noticed there was the chat readily available and in case of any issue we can always contact their support.



Creating the Safe was the first thing to do here and for that i signing to the mixin messager through the QR Code. The scanning was instant, it ask me to verify my pin and i was able to login to the Safe Mixin Dashboard https://safe.mixin.zone/dashboard

I do not have any plans, so i decided to upgrade to the 2$ plan and see how it actually works. Point to note is that without this upgrade we cannot create the mixin safe.
I payed 2$ using the TRX and the plan was upgraded.



Creating Safe and Testing the Deposit and withdrawals

Now i will create my safe and then test the deposit and withdrawals. The safe creating process was easy, i choose bitcoin Network, and then i scanned the Momin Key and safe was created.



Now i deposited Bitcoin in my Mixin Safe and it arrived successfully.



Now i will check the withdrawal through mixin safe.

It first ask for the members approval, which is done by approving the transaction by the the Mixin Messenger scanning the QR code

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Use Mixin Messenger to scan the QR code on the left to approve the transaction request.



Then i approve the transaction as an owner through the Mornin Key and it was successfully done.

Below is the screenshot of the transactions.



Conclusion
It was a good experience of using the mixin safe. Also, this is a more secure solution as now we need at least two approvers before our funds can be withdrawn.
2150  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do 90% of Bettors Lose in Sports Betting in the Long-term? on: August 12, 2023, 07:29:44 AM
Generally I will bet when I get a good prediction based on my own research, for example a meeting between the two teams in football and I will see the chances of winning first before deciding to bet.

Chance of winning alone is definitely not enough and is probably the main reason why so many people lose money. What you need to be looking at is the relation of payout rate to the chance of winning (Expected Value of the bet). So what if the team A has 90% chance of winning if the odds are set at x1.05. This wouldn't be a good bet to make. And if the team B has only 10% chance of winning, but the odds are set at x15.0 - that'd be a good value bet.

Although that is definitely true that the odds of winning are relatively low on the player's side but another major reason is the habit that gamblers develop to keep playing.
Despite knowing that they are losing most of their bets they still tend to keep playing losing more. This is why the losses always overcome the profits.
This is why 90% gamblers lose money in the long term.

I would say that gamblers will lose both in the long term and short term if they have no exit plan, if they do not have any profit taking plan and if they do not know what percentage of the win needs to be reinvested in the bets and how much you should cash out according to your portfolio.

In the absence of all these things, no gambler can be a winner in a nutshell. Yes, one may get a few wins and feel he is a champion gambler but without the above-mentioned skills, sooner or later he will lose all his profits and even his invested seed money too.
2151  Bitcoin / Electrum / Electrum Wallet RBF Feature on: August 12, 2023, 05:10:08 AM
I recently used the RBF feature in the Electrum wallet.
What happened was that I send some amount but put a fee of 2satoshi - Fee per vbyte, it was showing it will take 1 day for confirmation.
So after about 18 hrs, i decided to use the RBF feature for the very first time. I increased the fee to 4satoshi - Fee per vbyte and broadcast the transcation.

Now when i check the old Tx, it says it is not found. 

OLD TX, NOT FOUND



I see a new TX ID and it is still pending confirmation.

My question is that the fee which i paid in the old tx, 0.00005064 BTC, where does it goes? Is it lost?

Because in my new TX, the fee is 0.00012064 BTC (4.0 sat/vB) or did the OLD tx fee added to it  Huh

Also how long will it take for this new transaction to be confirmed with 4.0 sat/vB fee ?
2152  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA Women’s World Cup 2023 on: August 12, 2023, 04:27:33 AM
I also want Australia to advance to the semis, since they are an Asian team. But winning against France is going to be a very tough task.

Australia is not an Asian team  Shocked

It would be a good game of hockey but France will have an advantage. France and Australia both topped their groups.
In the knockout stages, France beat Morocco 4-0 while the Australian women's team beat Denmark 2-0.

If we go through the odds at Stake, we will clearly see that bookmakers are also favoring France in this match. One may take the risk to bet on Australia and get the odds of 3.45 but i do believe that 2.17 odds for France is pretty decent too.

2153  Other / Off-topic / Re: Keeping your gambling habit a secret. on: August 12, 2023, 01:27:59 AM

Even just a friendly gamble when we are just young, we just copy it to others, and deep inside us, we really don't know what the meaning of that is, but again, there are really people or some people persuading others to gamble because they can get a cut when the person they invited deposits money. Also, religion is really not involved in it because some religions have banned it, and you're right, others still gamble, which means it is on them as they know that they violated their rules.

If someone's religion does not allow gambling and still that person is doing gambling means that he is doing something which is not liked by his society and therefore he will try to hide this fact from his near and dear ones. They may say bad words to him and in other situations, may force them to leave gambling, and due to this fear, he or she hides his/her gambling activity from everyone.

But do you think he is doing justice to himself? As he denies his religion by doing an act which is not allowed for him. He is hiding this from everyone but his soul knows that he is doing wrong. I don't know these days people are not so spiritual  Huh
2154  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Signs that indicate you are not addicted to gambling on: August 11, 2023, 05:55:37 PM
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3. They don't regret losing, but just think it's part of gambling.
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In my opinion, gambling addicts and non-addicts both regret when they lose their game. The only thing that differentiates them is that people who are addicted to gambling will continue to play regardless of their financial condition and they tend to be aggressive and don't care about their condition. Whereas people who are not addicted to gambling, they tend to think rationally and keep thinking about their financial condition and tend to hold back from gambling again.

While you have mentioned the emotions of regret related to gambling addicts and non-addicts, I will not agree with the point that non-addicted gamblers not be prepared for a loss. They should be prepared for both loss and win.

Why would a non-addicted gambler will be sad about the gambling loss? I think such a gambler already knows the risk involved in the game and he would be prepared for the loss. This means that he would not risk too much that a loss from gambling will lead to a change in his mood. He must have a money management plan with him and therefore we put him in the non-addicted gamblers category.

2155  Economy / Gambling / Re: l0tt0.com on: August 11, 2023, 05:38:33 PM
OKAY!
SITE IS UP.

we have added some major changes. i will make a list tomorrow, i'm beyond tired right now.

i'm very sorry for the delay. it just took a lot longer than i planned. i've been programming in php for over 10 years- but still learning css.
anyway, it's up.. it works.. i have a bug list i'll start on tomorrow, so if you see something just know it will be fixed shortly.

josh



Just visited the site and it seems to a yellowish-fresh look. I really like the design.  Smiley

By the way, do you have any plan for the bitcointalk users to give them some free money to review your site? It will be helpful for the team too to find out what the end users (gamblers) want to see on the site and at the same time you will get a lot of traffic and new users registration on your site.

2156  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: think before investing on: August 11, 2023, 05:19:18 PM
I became more interesting on this topic when my friend hard about the profit on trading and investing on bitcoins.without  the ideas or knowledge about it. because he only hard  that, there are high profit on investing on Bitcoin. without knowing how Bitcoin is been trade. he went and sold his property to invest on Bitcoin without been knowledgeable about it. he went ahead and invest but loss everything because he doesn't know how to trade Bitcoin. 

He came and told me everything. i feel pity on him, and started teaching him how Bitcoin is been trade and invest. He was very serious to lean and now his happy and his doing very well. in every business or investment you are in backing on, I think you need to lean and be  knowledgeable about it before you invest on it.

If you have lack of knowledge, and you invest blindly in Bitcoin, of course, you will lose money. Even if you do not trade with crypto, still if you buy bitcoin near its all time high, then you will be carrying the bag of bitcoin for the next cycle and you may have to wait for a few years before the price return to your buying price. Most of these inexperienced persons will sell their bitcoins in the loss and later claim that they have lost money because of investment in Bitcoin.

Some people may be lucky if they blindly invest in bitcoin, and the bitcoin is near its low price and they will gain profit but it is better to first learn about bitcoin and then invest in it.
2157  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: August 11, 2023, 04:55:46 PM
Wow!
Jay you have said it all, bitcoin has a higher use case compared to gold. Bitcoin can be used for payment, Investment, Store of value, Donations and Smart contract so why would I choose gold over bitcoin. Ha ha if money can't buy your love, maybe bitcoin will do.
Obviously you can, because I have also seen people who propose to their love after owning Bitcoin, either he has sold Bitcoin to build a family by getting married, or he still has it today. Because maybe he has also fallen in love with Bitcoin after knowing more about Bitcoin which can indeed be used as payments, Investments, Store of value, Donations, and Smart contracts. If you have a lot of gold in your life I think you can sell some of it to buy Bitcoin if you already know a lot about Bitcoin. But that's just a small suggestion from me because the final decision is still in your own hands.

If you have a lot of fiat money (paper money) you should consider buying both Gold and Bitcoin, however personally i would put more investment in Bitcoin as compared to gold. The reason i am saying this is because the gold being less volatile while bitcoin being more volatile but gives more ROI.

If you only have Gold, better sell some gold and buy some bitcoins before its too late. The current prices of bitcoin are good to buy.

Also if you only have bitcoin, then it depends upon you if you want to buy some gold too, I would say to keep your portfolio in bitcoin but later when bitcoin reaches new All time high, convert some of that bitcoin into gold.
2158  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there real sports bet groups on: August 11, 2023, 04:15:10 PM

It's actually pretty stupid how someone would feel that some group out there in the internet will actually provide an 100 %  sure odds tag to deliver them victory because I for one certainly know that they is no such channel and the crazy part is that you actually gat to pay for such service. I was personal invited to one of these groups and I instantly blocked it because I am very certain that all these groups operate same way we do because no one actually habor any hidden secrets to a match before it's kicks off.

To predict exactly what will happen in the future and time for it to happen has been a difficult thing for humanity so that is the aspect that bettors need to understand it is not easy to know what will happen in the future and every minute is important. Football game happens at least 90 minutes into our future and to deduce it to appear the way it would in the future is not overtly easy. I could only get there free version and compare with others plus personal analysis but to pay for a group for signal is not what I do because it is of no guarantee.
Only the lazy doesn't want to find the information about sports betting that he wants, why should he trust other people to control all the bets and money used, that's weird because no professional can have 100% accurate predictions because there is definitely a defeat that we have to accept, let alone trusting someone to bet and joining a group or other people, we must be prepared for the risks.

Sports betting should be studied about the strengths of favored teams and teams that are not really favored at least know that there is a lot of information on the internet, don't be lazy to look for actual information that can be obtained easily on the internet, anyone's predictions are used as references and decisions for Betting must come from self-confidence, don't follow other people, which is not necessarily 100% accurate.

I would say that all the sports betting groups are real but do you think that predictions shared in those groups are real and 100% authentic?
I would say that most of these groups are made with the vision to collect money from the people and give them predictions. Some predictions will be right and some will be wrong, and this can be done by everyone.  Shocked

I never join the sports betting group because I know that no one can predict any sport with 100% accuracy. I still do not know why people want to join such groups. Either they have no knowledge about the sports they want to bet on or they do not trust their analysis when it comes to choosing the team to bet on.



2159  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: benefits of having mature accounts at 3 casinos (personal experience) on: August 11, 2023, 03:09:07 PM
Someone who has a limited budget for gambling should have a single account and wager whatever budget they have allocated for gambling in that account so that they can reach VIP level on their account and get some perks every week or month, it will be useless to have more accounts and wager little by little on all of them.

Someone who has limited budget should not even think about VIP level, better to play without thinking about VIP perks as it will lead into something bad.
Someone with limited budget may play in some different casinos but should not set a goal to get high VIP level and its perks.
I have said it many times that it is always better to focus on money management and controlling our gambling habits than focus on reaching VIP level.
All in all, never gamble to get VIP perks because basically the perks is not worth to hunt if we look at the possible risks.



Yes, first people goal is to gain a lot of money from gambling and in order to achieve this, they gamble too much without any plan and lose money.
Now, if the gamblers (the ones with low budget) tries to get the VIP status, that will add an extra pressure on them and they may lose unnecessary more money in achieving this status quickly.

I am not against the VVIP status for the gamblers, but if it comes naturally, then its good. Betting and gambling with more money in order to achieve those status is not right approach.
2160  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anonymity is no longer a benefit of gambling with cryptocurrency. on: August 11, 2023, 02:54:51 PM
I don't think there is anything wrong with that thought. If casinos are doing the KYC then they are abiding by their jurisdiction. Secondly, if they are doing the KYC then they are also making client-user contracts and it becomes one sort of evidence that we are registered on that casino, we have our cashier account too. As we move with time and make transactions they are getting recorded against our KYC so it's solid proof. Now, you never know when this proof will become an important thing in your life if somehow they do a scam of some type. This could be a lifesaver. I have seen peeps fighting for their life when some casinos ask for the KYC because if they have surpassed certain limits of transaction/winnings.

If that is the case then I hardly think the anonymous nature in a casino matters. I can understand when it comes to the physical one, but when it's an online casino, you have to be very cautious.

I prefer that casino do not ask for our KYC but usually this cannot be implemented in a real world because the casinos have to abide by the rules and regulations of the governing authorities and if they do not enforce KYC, these agencies will not allow them to run these casinos. We have to live with this.

However, Anonymity is a really good thing but unfortunately at present times when we have centralized gambling platforms, this seems impossible to remain anonymous.
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