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1761  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Metal Logos | Gold & Silver set | Prices Lowered | 22 sets left on: July 24, 2016, 01:02:35 PM
I find them very useful when researching the coins we sell ....

1762  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Metal Logos | Gold & Silver set | Prices Lowered | 22 sets left on: July 22, 2016, 08:55:14 PM
Glad you took a photo as my comment was made in a rush.

I also received a couple of badges and some stickers which were greatly appreciated and stashed away i the collection. Smiley

I definitely recommend these lovely items as great desktop paperweights or shelf ornaments Smiley

Viz
1763  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Metal Logos | Gold & Silver set | Prices Lowered | 22 sets left on: July 22, 2016, 09:12:06 AM
Got mine.

Very nice.

Great weight and feel Smiley

Good work

Viz
1764  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [AUCTION] One Sealed Box Of Genesis Series 2 Coins on: July 21, 2016, 07:37:39 PM
Tell me if you get the last #33 Cheesy

You're looking for?
1765  Other / Archival / Re: . on: July 20, 2016, 03:57:53 PM
nvm saw the list Tongue
1766  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Sold] 2 Physical BTC on: July 20, 2016, 02:29:04 PM
Once I brought the lack of funding to gravitates attention he did fund them immediately, so all good now Smiley

Viz
1767  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [WTS]Crypto Imperator Bitcoin Halving Commemorative Coin 92/100 Sold on: July 19, 2016, 10:42:24 PM
Agree that the Halving coins are indeed gorgeous.
The simplicity of the design, a perfect statement ... wonderful
If there was a coin of the year award, this one would certainly be at the top of my 2016 coins released list.
Both metals stand out and are both highly desirable.
Very happy to have managed to snag one of each for the personal collection.
1768  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Sold] 2 Physical BTC on: July 19, 2016, 09:10:36 PM
http://microsoul.uberbills.com/?address=1CtTjW5USCAxXF8mrSCjDa8owqDRSSy9Qr
was this bought as funded?
1769  Economy / Auctions / Re: [Auction] x20 Crypto Imperator 2014 10.000 Bits Coins on: July 19, 2016, 08:13:00 PM
I'm out! Smiley

Enjoy!

Viz
1770  Economy / Auctions / Re: [Auction] x20 Crypto Imperator 2014 10.000 Bits Coins on: July 19, 2016, 07:59:27 PM
refresh your page! LOL
1771  Economy / Auctions / Re: [Auction] x20 Crypto Imperator 2014 10.000 Bits Coins on: July 19, 2016, 07:56:31 PM
0.24
1772  Economy / Auctions / Re: [Auction] x20 Crypto Imperator 2014 10.000 Bits Coins on: July 19, 2016, 07:45:16 PM
0.22
1773  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Lucky coin Idea on: July 19, 2016, 03:50:53 PM
Sadly I will have to withdraw from spot 8.

Thanks in advance

Viz
1774  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [AUCTION] One Sealed Box Of Genesis Series 2 Coins on: July 18, 2016, 07:22:51 PM
0.01BTC

Gimme some #33.

#33 polished Gold by any chance?
1775  Economy / Auctions / Re: [Auction] x20 Crypto Imperator 2014 10.000 Bits Coins on: July 17, 2016, 05:23:18 PM
Here we go Smiley

0.01 BTC
1776  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Casascius hologram issue on: July 17, 2016, 10:55:44 AM
..snip (WoT)

I agree it boils down to two categories of factors (with numerous variables):

1. The assembly process

2. the holograms themselves were slightly made different in production in terms of quality consistency etc.

If I had to guess it sounds more like an aging process of the coins as I remember opening up my roll when I initially got them and never saw one of those dots until many months later.

This is my own personal experience with the coins I am sharing and am in no way claiming to be an expert at all. All I can do is speak from my experience with Mike's coins as well as my experience with dealing with holograms on my own coins that are months and years old which have not had that issue.

Obviously something is different, what that is to me is a mystery thus far.

It will be interesting to see then, in the coming months and years ahead, how Holo's generally fair across the range of physical coins that were subsequently made after Mike made the process public.

The variables are indeed many and hopefully, as time moves on, there will be a or some common factors arising that may enable a clearer idea of what is causing these issues Smiley

1777  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Casascius hologram issue on: July 17, 2016, 08:43:57 AM
When watching a video of Mike making the coins once, I saw bare hands/fingers being used to place the Holo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NyzDY7NUOo
^^
your answer?

Seems the manufacturing process was NOT sterile - Note the upload date. Use this as a reference for coins where the holo is at issue. Coins around this period included ?


QUOTE
A short clip of applying holograms to Casascius physical bitcoins. Helpers are placing private keys from a jar onto the coins and also peeling the holograms onto transfer tape. Another helper puts the coins on a flatbed scanner for later identification and funding."

Thats a LOT of handling....

People have been so focussed on the Slabs and capsules yet it seems sensible to wind back to the very start of the creation process and look for early issues.
To the point that a coin has even yet to be struck. How were the blanks handled? How were they moved around? How many hands/fingers touched them throughout the lifecycle of creation? etc etc. Think like that and I believe you will find you answers far faster

No disrespect to Mike in any way, but he wasn't the Royal Mint. I would describe the process of his creating coins as semi pro hobby craft in the early days. Issues would easily creep in as appears to be the case with the early coins and their holos.



If this was the case for his 2013 silver coins then there would be noticeable finger prints on the coins which there werent.

When dealing with silver coins it is difficult to apply the entire process without adding finger prints to the silver coins without using gloves.

Brass not so much (even though I tend to use gloves for those as well).

It would seem the finger print issue is not the cause of it as it would be obviously visible on the surface of his silver coins from 2013.

I covered the Silvers above by acknowledging that they appear to have marked a change in process of manufacture. However, manual handling of the Priv key AND the holo,  by multiple persons, appears NOT to have changed (Mike can clarify?). So even if the Silver coins are treated and handled with utmost care AND with gloves, the keys and holos were not, ergo the perfect entry point for chemicals.
If two persons body grease/sweat mix it can create additional chemicals which can have a noticeable impact. This is well known.

In light of the video itself, I believe there's now compelling evidence indicating that the manual elements of production are a very likely contender for being the cause of the issues currently being faced by Coin owners.

Again, I think Mike is probably the one best placed to highlight production issues of the time.

What  was the humidity in the room like?
Room Temperature?
Were people hot/warm/cold while working?
Had the room been recently decorated?
Had anyone had pizza that day, afternoon, evening? (you get the idea)


There are so many variables possible during production that, if you have satisfied yourselves that the slabs absolutely cannot be the issue, then by axiom the creation process MUST play a more significant part in the investigation.

Currently, all evidence points to production as the weak point and most likely cause of dots and spotting. It may be the Holos themselves at the point of THEIR manufacture.
Am I correct in thinking that the paper used for priv keys was removed from the list of culprits?
Viz
1778  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Casascius hologram issue on: July 16, 2016, 10:47:36 PM
The manufacture of Silver coins appears to mark a change in some of the processes as Mike clearly didn't want blemishes on the nice shiny silver coins. As such, manufacturing appears to have had a more thoughtful sequence where handling is concerned and the related issues would have been mitigated by gloves and better processes. Maybe Mike could qualify the above?

Just my 2 cents
1779  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Casascius hologram issue on: July 16, 2016, 10:10:36 PM
When watching a video of Mike making the coins once, I saw bare hands/fingers being used to place the Holo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NyzDY7NUOo
^^
your answer?

Seems the manufacturing process was NOT sterile - Note the upload date. Use this as a reference for coins where the holo is at issue. Coins around this period included ?


QUOTE
A short clip of applying holograms to Casascius physical bitcoins. Helpers are placing private keys from a jar onto the coins and also peeling the holograms onto transfer tape. Another helper puts the coins on a flatbed scanner for later identification and funding."

Thats a LOT of handling....

People have been so focussed on the Slabs and capsules yet it seems sensible to wind back to the very start of the creation process and look for early issues.
To the point that a coin has even yet to be struck. How were the blanks handled? How were they moved around? How many hands/fingers touched them throughout the lifecycle of creation? etc etc. Think like that and I believe you will find you answers far faster

No disrespect to Mike in any way, but he wasn't the Royal Mint. I would describe the process of his creating coins as semi pro hobby craft in the early days. Issues would easily creep in as appears to be the case with the early coins and their holos.


1780  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [WTS] 1 BTC Casascius 2011 Error Coin cgs88 (MS65-MS66) on: July 16, 2016, 09:14:51 PM
Whereabouts in UK are you?

I ask as it seems wise to get an independent viewer to confirm the status.

I would be happy to help out if you're nearby or reachable without too much grief.

That or someone else reputable could possibly help out.

Just a thought

Viz
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