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"If you have any other awesome ideas for distribution, then let’s hear them" - Paul Vernon - “BigVern”
Sounds like Kool Aid talk
So I FTFY
"If you have any other GAWsome ideas for distribution, then let’s hear them" - That Crypstsy dude who Drank deep of the Kool Aid.
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This needs tagging with the little SEO story that was made. Add the two together and I believe you would never fail to see this horror story at the top of the listings.
And yes, I agree with the alleged Fraud accusations over the 9/11 Hashlets. I would have thought that Cantor would seek to get to the bottom of this fast and make some kind of statement distancing themselves from this. It's not the biggest bug on their windscreen but embarrassing nonetheless.
Toads like Ganza should not be allowed to profiteer from the events of that day or the pain of those still suffering as a result of them. Despicable behaviour.
Garza's gonna Garza. He appears to be a pro at this with little to no shame, so you the SEO stuff won't bother him while he's counting his money. SEO bomb Cantor/Fraser/9-11 scam and you may get somewhere. Start typing cantor fitzgerald into google, it tries to autofill 9/11 and their relief fund is a top result, they won't be happy with a whiff of fraud and it's the only way to get results besides waiting for the government (which probably won't be able to get much money back to users.) Lets be honest though, these kind of people have "friends". If the smell of Fraud starts wafting their way, Mr Ganzas ability to stay places might get a tad more "difficult". Big Money, when angry, can make some subtle yet useful things happen when they need to. Don't even have to break laws to make it happen. That's part of the fun in this Game of Coins House of The Foundation - The Bolt-ons House of TPC - The Freys - real trust worthy types.... House of Hidden Primes - The Assassins House of Truth - The Alphabet group - slower but still deadly.... House of GAW - The Lannisters House of Fraser - The Iron Bank House of Ganza - Some long lost son of Tywin, probably a blend of an unspoken Iron Bank liason When will this drama end? Do you want it to? Do you know how it ends? Who's the Fall guy? Does the Iron Bank reach back into the deserts of Dorn for $2m? Intrigue within intrigue? Is the House of Ganza now resident in Dorn? |
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can we get a repost of the "list of lies" ? thanks
probably needs a good update, lol. No premine, we'll mine for our coins just like everyone else" - lie Hashlets will "Never expire and always be profitable" - lie Valutbreakers - lie Prime Hashlets will be able to mine SHA-256 - lie Prime Hashlets will be the only ones mining XPY PoW phase - lie HashBase - lie AmpStore is coming soon - lie Hybrid-thermal-rubber-rabbit-flux-chain BTC2 capabilities - lie Orion nodes with higher payouts - lie Paybase debit card - lie Paybase Amazon, WallMart and co - lie Paybase BillPay - lie Paybase thousands of merchants on board - lie XPY $20 floor - lie World leading coin development team hired - lie CAF (Coin Adoption Fund) - lie $100 Million Fiat reserve - lie We're moving the market - lie GAW "bought" BTC.com for $1 Million dollar - lie GAW bought ZenCloud for $8 Million dollar - lie We'll destroy all the test coins once we've finished debugging - lie premier accounts on paybase will go out in a week - lie hundreds of coinstand invites are going out in the next few hours - lie Honor program will buy back coins at 20$ - lie Prime Hashlets will no longer be sold after a certain date - lie Paybase is here to stay - lie Thousands of coinstand invites are going out this week - lie GAW is not dumping any XPY on exchanges - lie Remember Legendarys limited to 500 - LIE Vegas Legendarys only given to those attending Vegas - LIE Vegas Legendarys will be the rarest of Legendarys - LIE Holloween legendarys will be able to combine into something special - LIE Staker Legendarys will only be limited to 100 - LIE all Legendarys converted to Stakers will keep their Legendary status - LIE all legendarys converted to Stakers will get extra abilities - LIE Coinstand is a large merchant that will value paycoin at $20 - LIE ========------------------============-----------------=========== This needs tagging with the little SEO story that was made. Add the two together and I believe you would never fail to see this horror story at the top of the listings. And yes, I agree with the alleged Fraud accusations over the 9/11 Hashlets. I would have thought that Cantor would seek to get to the bottom of this fast and make some kind of statement distancing themselves from this. It's not the biggest bug on their windscreen but embarrassing nonetheless. Toads like Ganza should not be allowed to profiteer from the events of that day or the pain of those still suffering as a result of them. Despicable behaviour. |
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To know that Cryptsy were involved with Ganza in October also seals it for me. This will not and cannot end well.
We know there are multiple Alphabets all over the Ganza show, there's no reason to think otherwise now with Cryptsy. Knowing this, is reason enough to remove any funds from their platform as it could be seized or shut down at any time.
In all of the things I've seen and read lately, this stands up there as one of the shadiest parts of the picture. Even if the original intent was pure, Ganza has trashed that for them and dragged them through all sorts of shite past present and future.
Again, there cannot be anything good come of this. It's not hard to connect the dots and it seems the more Cryptsy say in their defence, the more the leaked emails cough up and destroy the "we're the good guys" speeches.
Maybe someone at Cryptsy will finally small that coffee and realise this is toxic and the best thing to do now is damage limitation by expunging all connections to Ganza and XPY and prepare for a bumpier ride than usual. There may will be trouble ahead !
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Strikes me that to take on a Prime was an ill-conceived, ill-considered and ill-researched idea that, if nothing else, has placed Cryptsy firmly in the cross hairs of the Alphabets, if they weren't there already. With alleged money laundering by Ganza, Ganzas heavy use and promotion of Cryptsy, it will not end well there I suspect. There was talk last year that there were to be some major actions within the world of crypto imminent, and then things went quiet...
Cryptsy may have had to field issues with one or two of the Alphabets before, but I'll take an educated guess and say that once up to speed they will be in every slot, groove, cranny and nook Cryptsy have.
As with this entire farce, there are still many Acts yet to go..
Cryptsy aside, the SEC did go after a number of businesses and shut them down/fined them due to illegally selling shares (IPO's). I want to say somewhere in the 50-60 range of businesses. I'm trying to find the article now. Maybe this is what you are referring to. In Sept 2014, they had 4 major investigations going on. One in Texas for fraudulent sales of investment vehicle that would give 7%/week, one in Florida for cash in excess of $10k for bitcoin as money laundering, Silk Road trying to say Bitcoin wasn't money, and.... I'm thinking the other one was in California maybe as a unregistered money transmitter? I can't find the article right now that went through all of them, just remember that at the same time as Garza was spinning up his scam, there were at least 3 cases that could relate directly to his activities. Don't remember seeing 50-60 businesses getting busted on unregistered securities? Here it is, however I still seem to remember 50-60 companies somewhere. This is related to the inquiries, so maybe what im thinking of was the fines themselves. https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/sec-sends-inquiry-letters-hundreds-bitcoin-companies-unregistered-securities/Wasn't that approx the number of darkweb drug sites that were taken down around that time last year? Possibly that you're confusing this with? Grrr this is going to bug me now lol. If I remember correctly there was mention of about 10 organisations, some exchanges, that were in the firing line of investigators and the Alphabets. It was around the time that Coinbase and a few others changed their TOS to fit the new US rulings. Any account that didn't verify itself got nuked... so, a part of that time frame, and a drive by some to get up to "regulatory speed" I'm not convinced anything came of those statements at the time as it would make more sense for time to pass so the investigation was more complete..... kind of heading in to the time of 'now' for more action to be seen as a result of those efforts made... I could be wrong but that scratchy feeling at the back of the neck says I may be right... but then, a large part of this GAw collapse has "inevitable" written all over it, you don't need Magic 8 Ball to know the outcome of this sorry saga. Anyone still promoting a Prime with a stake rate of anything above 1% clearly doesn't understand crypto, doesn't understand economics and clearly has no sense of the shit show that IS XPY. Reputational damage has now been done to a number of parties and I suspect, the longer people hang on to the notion that the Prime infrastructure is a good idea, the longer this painful demise will be. While entertaining on one level, it isn't a good view from the outside. I have yet to see one good argument for maintaining stake rates above 1% for ANY wallet not just a prime. Why? Because there is NONE. Period. Those who actually understand these things will, and invariably do, agree. It's a bad idea and doesn't benefit the coin in any way. Ever. |
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Strikes me that to take on a Prime was an ill-conceived, ill-considered and ill-researched idea that, if nothing else, has placed Cryptsy firmly in the cross hairs of the Alphabets, if they weren't there already. With alleged money laundering by Ganza, Ganzas heavy use and promotion of Cryptsy, it will not end well there I suspect. There was talk last year that there were to be some major actions within the world of crypto imminent, and then things went quiet...
Cryptsy may have had to field issues with one or two of the Alphabets before, but I'll take an educated guess and say that once up to speed they will be in every slot, groove, cranny and nook Cryptsy have.
As with this entire farce, there are still many Acts yet to go..
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What happened to the Test PC Rig?
The one whose coins were going to be burned but weren't iirc?
Did that get exterminated or forgotten about?
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Ah man, I just havent had the time to go over all this thread as am busy in Dubai doing bitcoin stuff, you know the one, REAL crypto currency not that monstrosity being discussed here. On the hunt tomorrow as I will have a driver for the day  I'm coming for you Josh... and I have another reason to hunt you.... you made me say the dirty words..... "I like Apple" why? Because their NSA approved tracking tech is watching you....and so am I .... As for JM: Boned - thoroughly. The crickets have spoken..... I too would like the answer about the photo of miners. And to STILL defend the 100% staking proves beyond doubt to me that he is clueless about crypto. In fact anyone that says it's a good idea really doesnt get it. Defending the indefensible..... good luck with that. This coin is dead. It has no future. I've said before and I'll say again, it's done, it's over, get over it. No self respecting business, organisation or otherwise will want anything to do with it. It's the laughing stock of the industry (what few people do know of it that is) and the people still trying to "help it survive" do nothing other than damage (further) any reputation they have left. In essence I agree with the majority of Paul Reveres standpoint although I may be a little less vociferous about it. But he is right, this coin is toxic and some of the personalities that have turned up to defend their positions are also laughable. Clueless about the business of crypto, no comprehension of the real world applications and dreamers still high on Kool Aid. Sorry but any professional in this space knows that it's over. But then lets just get really real here for a minute... talk to the world of professional bitcoiners and the large majority dont even know what XPY is. Real BTC business people do not fuck about with Alts because they are a joke. And to those that have said " this will damage all of crypto..." hahaha methinks you give XPY far too much credit. Dont flatter yourself or XPY, because it's not true and never has been. Think about it, a grand total of what? less than 20k users? Pish. Step away from the Hype and take a deep breath, spit out the Kool Aid and realise that it was nothing more than a 2 bit player roping in the foolish and deluded, conning the unknowing and deceiving the customers. And if you want an example of how dicking with the blockchain doesnt work, just take a look at VeriCoin. No one trusts it now as they know it can be rolled back or tinkered with. Once you go down that road its a terminal course. Period. Strikes me people need to learn their topic when it comes to Crypto. To much hope and dreams and not enough reality and sense IMO |
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Whatever these numbers at this date means to anyone Subject: wow Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 00:11:54 -0500 From: Joe Mordica < joe@gawlabs.com> To: Josh Garza < josh@geniusesatwork.com> zencloud hosting: Scrypt 14525.130 MH SHA256 25615.200 GH 370 'Fury' 199 'Black Widow' 261 'Falcon' 52 'War Machine' 35 'Gridseed Blade' 3 'Gridseed G-Black' 21 'Antminer A1' 48 'RockMiner R-Box' 6 'ANTMINER S3 ' 7 '10-Pack Gridseed Orb' 15 'Innosilicon A2' Note the names in 'quotes'  It says "zencloud hosting", the precursor to Hashlets. That's when you would buy a miner and it would activate within 24 hours and have 100% uptime, none of which was possible just a few weeks before with GAW's "old" hosting system. This miraculous hosting platform was what prompted me to start this thread (the first version of it). Those are huge numbers for Zeus hardware (~40-50W per MH/s) plus some other assorted miners, so that's nearly a megawatt... 2-3 months before MS Power installed those transformers. My guess would be that the A2s, Gridseeds, Ants might be real, others - doubtful. Maybe some of them. Just 5 pages to go. Weren't there pics of Ganza sitting on the floor with about 7 boxes of grid seeds (boxes of 10) |
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gunning for suchmoon... Time for a road trip. I have found our man :)
Awww... so cute. Mr. Brilliant, I did get your PM back then and was expecting you but you didn't show up. Isn't Stacey Tenen = rootdude? That's GAW quality right there. It's neat how much stuff EvilPanda was able to dig up but fortunately made all the wrong conclusions. So what we know so far is that my name could be Andrey, Stacey, or Alex, and I may or may not work as a mechanic of some sort. I might be a woman but that beard would be really creepy then, so not sure about that part. The mug is cool though.  Yesterday I saw one of EPs Emails where he mentioned his shills in action and it linked to an ikeboy post, but I did not grab it. Need to dig that one back up to expose that punk. I mean, we all knew he was a GAW shill, but it is good to see validation of these things. I suspect Homero stopped paying ikeboy long ago, and he just keeps going along posting pro-Homero idiocy anyways out of pure assholery. Plus- it's hard to believe these assholes were/are selling their integrity for ~$20 a month. There will always be cheap people, just look at Mr Ganza, if it wasn't for Stu's money, Bumbledork is just a Muggle |
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What timezone does that put him in? |
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Other than gocoin, he doesn't even appear to be trying to partner with anyone else. There's no ignored emails sent to amazon, target, shopify, paypal, tesla, etc. That's even more premeditated. There's no to corporate@amazon.com please take my shitcoin, I already said you would. And where's bitjane? Did he have sexual relations with her too? WOW! Ignorant beyond belief. Get a life!  You need a Dubai skyline in the background of that one |
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Funny how things work out..... Look, this is the bottom line. In business you should never change a deal you already made. Period.
I have run many companies (50m plus), and I have made many deals I did not like. But I always homered a deal once I made it.
These guys caused the exact opposite of what they wanted. They wanted to attract new miners and create trust and loyalty. Heck, I was even thinking about even staying longer term (have over 100mh). But I will never do business with them again. They have no integrity
How'd that "not changing a deal" and "homered [sic] a deal" work out for the 9/11 fund? |
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Seems he wants to paint BTC as a "dangerous" coin to be involved with whereas Paycoin, of course, is a clean and honourable coin.... PAHAHAHAHA And the irony? ... He's got all his funds in BTC abroad so he can move around and avoid the seizure of his money. I wonder if he's changed any BTC to gold yet? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15tks3ovprwSad thing is this will allow him to launder funds quite easily. Gold is a much better currency in certain parts of the world. edit: All these machines have cameras attached for AML/KYC reasons.... no stretch to imagine footage being monitored. Something to remember with ALL BTM machines.... |
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Three cheers for Theymos?
he certainly told them to shove it in no short order. worthy of a *hat tip for sure |
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It's quite clear they struggled when they were not able to control the message.
Add to that the legal reps were pretty much worthless.
Quite the cocktail of ineptitude and incomprehension.
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A Rebel Alliance vs Darth Ganza and Sith Lords?
Oh my... LOL
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Also, the homero as a dancing jester gif could use an update, perhaps to a Dubai background?
Here's a good backdrop  |
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Has there been much info on the Middle Eastern connection that allegedly passed over $2m (was it?)?
Any damning mails implicating the deliberate avoidance of various laws and taxes?
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