note to self... read the bloody text before reacting ... apologies to the thread...
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Vizique 1 @ 0.1
Change that to... Vizique 2 @ 0.1 (each)
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This thread has been live since November 14, 2014, 07:40:29 PM and for about 90% of that time it has been either Comedy Gold or so interesting and captivating it's been like a good book you couldn't put down. There's clearly still much to play out and there's oodles of value yet to come! It's been a joy to watch the truth come out and those that stuck to their guns when all around were howling "FUDDER" seen to be proven right. IT's also clear though that while Ganza has been the most obvious (and largest) fraud in the Alt space there's now even more potential for another major con after the success of The DAO. It's kind of inevitable that someone/a group will try to emulate the process and try to generate insane amounts of money such as The DAO has gained. I believe it's incumbent upon those that have experience and knowledge to stay vigilant and stop those pretenders as they appear. So, well done all and keep it up Stay sharp.... the next one is around the corner....
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Funny old world....I got this email today..
Registering a Singapore Company ________________________________________
Benefits of a Singapore Company Singapore is recognised as one of the top financial centres of Asia if not the world but why should you consider setting up a business there?
International entrepreneurs, corporations and indeed businesses of all sizes consider Singapore as a great location to setup their business for a number of reasons: • Singapore is ranked by Forbes as the third richest nation in the world; • It is the most politically stable country in Asia; • The labour force is highly educated; • Corporate taxes are low and indeed are zero on profits earnt abroad; • There are no capital gains, inheritance or dividend taxes. A company takes up to 5 days to incorporate, two directors are required one of whom has to be resident in Singapore, you also require a company secretary and a local registered office.
These requirements mean that Singapore is never going to be the cheapest jurisdiction in which to incorporate but they do ensure that the company has a local footprint in an international finance centre of high repute.
The banking sector are keen to provide services and we have a network of suppliers that we are able to recommend and introduce to you often without the requirement to visit Singapore.
The bit I've highlighted... That's interesting...more so because it poses more questions, rather than answers So the question now is who is the second director... where is the office and how are they funding this and a secretary. That information says its not the cheapest in which to incorporate and start but bonuses on capital gains profits etc... If they all lost money and are pretty broke where is it coming from. The 3 listed on ionomy are not singapore residents. You're right it does pose more questions if those are indeed the requirements to incorporate in singapore. Im intrigued also by the "5 days" to incorporate.. this could be the delay on giving the details as it wasn't done when they said it was. I see your point. Indeed, where are they getting the $ from to make the Singapore operation happen and as far as Directoral structure is concerned their version of events doesn't seem to stack. I admit though I haven't paid much attention to ION as it's so clearly a scam and I moved on from the Ganza event, but it is amusing to see the final days of HG play out in public after he so desperately wanted everyone to love him and be interested in his small world. That world will hopefully be a 9x10 cell in the future....
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Not really. It's the same as it is on the Isle of Man for example. People will be those roles required enabling you to create the Co. The solicitor could be the Co Sec at a mailbox registered office and a second director (as you're the first) would be a Name for hire. Same as they've been doing in that Fonseca scandal.
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Funny old world....I got this email today..
Registering a Singapore Company ________________________________________
Benefits of a Singapore Company Singapore is recognised as one of the top financial centres of Asia if not the world but why should you consider setting up a business there?
International entrepreneurs, corporations and indeed businesses of all sizes consider Singapore as a great location to setup their business for a number of reasons: • Singapore is ranked by Forbes as the third richest nation in the world; • It is the most politically stable country in Asia; • The labour force is highly educated; • Corporate taxes are low and indeed are zero on profits earnt abroad; • There are no capital gains, inheritance or dividend taxes. A company takes up to 5 days to incorporate, two directors are required one of whom has to be resident in Singapore, you also require a company secretary and a local registered office.
These requirements mean that Singapore is never going to be the cheapest jurisdiction in which to incorporate but they do ensure that the company has a local footprint in an international finance centre of high repute.
The banking sector are keen to provide services and we have a network of suppliers that we are able to recommend and introduce to you often without the requirement to visit Singapore.
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With any coin, especially one that has people attached from former projects that are known to have gone bad, proper and detailed research and due diligence is required.
We've all been in the " crypto space" for some time now to see and understand the key signifiers and obvious flags for scams.
from ICO, premines, huuuuge % returns in short timescales, stakers, power stakers et al and more. In the end many bear the same resemblance to former failures and in many cases are/were called out way in advance of their actual failure.
Accepting that these are NOT proper ways to go about coin development, especially now that the whole scene has matured beyond those "wild west" days (although not for the want of many people still trying!!) is a good start to questioning the technology and the people behind it.
Are they competent? Their record of success in Development terms. Former software that can be referred to as useful/valid/real/valuable.
Banging out generic websites, white label code and the like doesn't cut it anymore, there must be substance and to find that one has to dig deep and research and spend time else a fool and his money will soon be parted.
Worthwhile "Coins" are getting rarer as the financial world wakes up and other businesses understand the power of tokenisation and automation to boot. Some kid in a bedroom is now unlikely to be the maker of the next big "Asset" no matter how big the hype they offer.
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As GAW proved, when one is in deep, then the voices of reason around you are ignored. I dug out some old chat logs. and the desire to believe was quite breathtaking, in the face of the flags and teh reasoned voices. In fact I remember having to tone my language as I was among friends. Sometimes you really should trust those that have spent the time doing the research.... ALL the research. It saddens me to think that the amount of money invested and lost to JG could have funded some really serious and awesome projects. If my Co. had just 10% of that we'd be a National network in months
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You've sold all your XPY Mr Coins?! But you owe me two from our bet!!
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"We feel the Proof of Work (PoW) model is broken," said Mark' "We're seeing now with the large Bitcoin farms in China, the arms race has gotten to the point where mining is a zero sum game." "By starting semi-centralized with ionomy.com" http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ionomy-gaming-platform-seeks-entice-172602645.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=tw When your "people" can show such a fundamental lack of understanding of the mining process and then to pad out their excuse reason for steering away from it with the same twaddle Mr Ganza used, the alarm bells should have been ringing. That and the fact the team involved were incompetent with XPY, why would anyone ever believe they were going to be of any use in another "Coin" environment. Chasing these rainbows may be fun, but the wake of destruction they leave behind is not quite so amusing. With great power (and a lot of believing Twitter followers) comes great responsibility. It's not a choice, it's just the way things have developed, sometimes even cultured. To underestimate the power of the medium shows a lack of foresight or attention, quite possibly both. But this is easy to fix as I see some have recently tried to do I strongly recommend Andreas book "Mastering Bitcoin" to understand the true fundamentals of what makes Bitcoin, Bitcoin. When you understand the technology in this way then your appreciation for Alts doesn't diminsh, but it does make you a whole heap more discerning when choosing to jump onboard a gravy train. The ethics of it all? I'll leave for another day
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This is great.
I thought, with ganza gone, this thing would wither and die.
It just keeps kicking up new interesting lunatics, illiterates and scammers. Amazing stuff.
So, there's the ganza brothers, carmello, valhadawallaballa, carson 540 clock, now this lunatic with a scat fetish.
I hope this thread never dies, I really do :-)
Ah finally an objective wise person that has realized what they have "invested" in. You are no longer invested in Crypto Currency, but consider your "investment" as prepaid entertainment expenses, like prepaying your cable bill for a year or a 100 or a 1000 years in advance and in return you get to watch the current series of shows being offered Drama's As The Paycorn Turns or Reality TV Keeping up with the Ganza's or Mystery Episodes The GAWKSTER Filesor late night infomercials HASHTHINGIES Always make Money or Tourism shows Touring Non Extradition Countries on a budgetor Religious themed shows Like TELEVANGILIST JOSHYPOO hosted series and there will be many new series in the future, for instance right now there is one in production that based on court room drama, coming in the new season. So sit back and enjoy your "investment". or Lost:Ganza Island or Celebrity Boxing - Ganza vs Bonaducci or Here Comes Homero BooBoo GAW & (Dis)Order
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"The birthplace of cryptocurrencies"
oh please
Arrogant? Presumptious? Factually incorrect? BS?
Parasitical copy at best. Riding on the coat tails of years of work by many, professing to be a beacon/sentinel of Crypto currency advocacy. HA fkin ha
One day you will learn that the world prefers to use the term Digital Currency. Crypto is geeky and marginal... but of course as the "birthplace" you already knew that... tsk! amateurs
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I was in Dubai recently ... And I'm due to go back in the near future to complete a business deal there. Last time was all a bit "on the hoof" as it were due to my only being there for a few days and lots of meetings to organise. Next time however will be a tad more leisurely..... time to have a look around and stake hang out. Made some good contacts out there too, people have had a heads up EDIT: Has a bloody big Aquarium in the worlds largest Mall there.. And yes, that Tower is HUUUGE! And looks good at night while having dinner at the Marina
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.... I am quiet sure the investigators are taking notice and having a serious meeting over that statement also! What a blithering idiot Josh is!
I think they're probably pissing themselves with laughter at the repeated ineptitude of the boy. It's comical to say the least. Although I also imagine even they get tired of the inane drivel that intersperses the nuggets of pure gold. Might have to move over to Diera soon eh? Jameirah gets a little pricey after a while.
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why is that bald guy breathing so hard he should quit smoking
these muggles are dissin' his shiz man!! hyperventilatin cos itz real man!!
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They're offering handjobs!! The stupidity is strong in these people! It's a scream to watch, funny as hell. Just wow. Ha! did he say real world.... that's me falling off the chair laughing again hahahahahaha
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Homero says "fuck your transparency": of course Josh knows who the guys are. Why wouldn't he know who the guys in this totally independent group are. Is this a new record, he almost made it 24 hours without revealing that he is behind the new shell company thrown up as a distraction. The "guy" you said? https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=WzhW20hLp6M#t=104
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Lipstick on a pig doesn't stop it from being a pig
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