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Will we be seeing any new additions tonight?
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Received. Waiting on slow Btc confirms
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Will confirm when funds arrive, hoping soon. I got about 2 hours to get order placed
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AndrewWilliams, I want to thank you for still going ahead as planned. Dont really want to spark off nothing so I just want to keep it short
Payment address is the same as the signature.
1H7E7YqMoWQZsUCumbvyASYJzpnz3dudaB
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It's my first time leaving feedback, I did not know you could leave feedback on a 0 sum transaction, my mistake. I'll fix it if someone shows me how copy and paste the words you said (meh) and repost it... Bro, get off my thread and eat a dick, you see all this clustefuck going on now you wanna nose it, drop your 2 cents to feel like the bigger man. And there goes the rage - you got no loan, you gave your ID away, and you can't even get me off this topic. I'm in a free country, I was talking like a formal man, but no fucking more. why the fuck do you hate me so much anyways? Or do you just hate people who don't give you money? You tread people like Vod with more respect - just because he is a hero member? No offence on Vod whatsoever. You should learn to respect people... I had suggested before (which you didn't listen to, of course) that we both just ignore each other with the ignore button. a lot of stress is taken away on both sides. Monbux, I hate posers that's it. Your actions fit the profile. Not made I didn't get the money cause Ill have the money in my account on the 25th like the original post states. It just pisses me off trying to go by Forum standard to get a loan and do everything proper. TO have a bunch of idiots come in and muddy up shit. If these people piss you off, ignore them or leave. Cause they ain't gunna listen to you. This guy has not scammed anyone, you have no proof. You called me a scammer - I said the exact same thing. Yet you still called me a scammer. :/ Follow your own words, eh? I'll be ignoring this thrad from now on. Monbux- damn dude I walked away on the other thread cause for one your too stupid to remember what you post or too lazy to go back threw and read what you have posted. If have persisted on messing with me after I called you on your bullshit. I posted a Paintball gun for sell on the forum and you bid 0.001 i laughed and suggested 0.01 start bid which you lol'd and agreed, then proceded to ask for shipping discount which was 0.10 shipped to start with then back out cause reviews for the gun were crappy. THat was koo let that go I also posted a VPS Quarker script that let you "Mine for free" i had listed for 0.01 btc(later just gave away) Not only did i get crap from you about, How is it free when i have to buy it type shit. Like i said you pay for the information on how to mine for free.. I then offered to let a user try it out and report back which was you. I set up the VPS quarker mining to your quark address then PM you the Coding to get it working then having to give you tech support cause you couldnt copy and paste following the directions.Also told you the work around to get more Free Linode trail. So I took the time a made a video for you showing you step by step how to copy and past the code in. Never recieved a response or thank you, I did get the "thank you, he sent me 36 quark" post in the forum. That was not correct. Your wallet showed you mined those coins and im sure a few more than 36, but I didnt send quark the vps mined for you like it was supposed to but you conveid that I paid you. Let that go, now here we are after the 0.11btc for Paintball gun being too high, too 0.01btc too expencive. You proceed to deny me for 4 btc lan, which clearly you are not capable of doing. Yes, you said you could buy in, but couldnt anyone if they wanted to. Then you make fun of my collateral options while battling me on the syntax of the collatral definition. I tried to let you know that collateral is something the borrow intends to get back. On this forum collateral is the Loan amount plus 20% in litecoins or similar. Some do the mail item to Escrow, blah blah blah. Honestly if I had the amount I was trying to borrow in LTC, the solution is simple Sell the LTC to cover cost and make purchase.No loan no bullshit. In real life, with a bank loan collateral is a contract. You go home and list the Serials of the items and return to the bank with the agreement" ie- If i dont pay as agreed, the loan is in default and the lender now owns the items listed. IE flatscreen, xboxs, ps3, etc. also fine print contains borrower must pay court fees yada yadaa. Yes, if borrower doesnt want to volunteer said items, YOu have to goto court and get it settled, and the lender gets the items anyway. Borrower is better off turning over items instead of thousands in court fees, lawyers. I understand that Loans bait scammers and preditors, but whats the point of jumping through every hoop thats set out only to be cut down but those that are scared and unwilling to take the risk. Put you big girl panties on and accept there is risk and stop CRYING wolf before anything happens IF both parties are willing to accept the risk and do whats asked other users should set back and watch. Let what about to happen, happen. You may be suprised, if you were right the whole time there is your chance for I told you. To many butt sore users make this scene look like a shady back ally where I will be raped, robbed and left for dead. Just like in real life there are some bad people which ruin it for the rest of us. So Monbux buddy, Forehead kiss, take it easy in real life and make good choices. I dont hate or not like you as a person but your Monbux costume comes of kinda like an ass. Sorry about the remarks about your family and anything personal i said |
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So since you have killed my loan, can you give me the loan with the exact same information that I have given Andrew then you can determine if one could steal my identity
How did I kill your loan? Do you not understand - the guy is a scammer. He was never going to send you any BTC. He would have sent you another PM saying the lawyer wants you SSN just for the records and boom - you would have your identity stolen. Look at his language - he is neither mature or professional as I am. That being said, I only give loans with collateral. Like I asked Andrew at the start of all this, what would I do with your ID should you not pay me back? This guy has not scammed anyone, you have no proof. That's why you keep resorting to the "he said he has a lawyer friend" He has never asked for my SSN and his language doesn't mean anything. We are in a public environment, not a professional setting so word usage means nothing. The fact that you bring up you speak professional earns you a scammer tag by your own standards. Your basing your decisions off of what if's. He has never asked for anything that would give control of my identy and yet BTCjam and other lenders require similar if not more information. Why would you wait till I give the last file to get my loan to start bulling a user. As a professional, you should no making accusations based off something you have no knowledge of is childish. As being a Professional you would already, a lawyer is not goin to take his time to call or email a person to appease some random user on a chat forum. So shows that you are not interested in Good users or Scam user, just to exercise some bogus control issue you have You are either ripe to get scammed, or just looking for free btc. Thank you for another contribution from the peanut gallery, |
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It's my first time leaving feedback, I did not know you could leave feedback on a 0 sum transaction, my mistake. I'll fix it if someone shows me how copy and paste the words you said (meh) and repost it... Bro, get off my thread and eat a dick, you see all this clustefuck going on now you wanna nose it, drop your 2 cents to feel like the bigger man. And there goes the rage - you got no loan, you gave your ID away, and you can't even get me off this topic. I'm in a free country, I was talking like a formal man, but no fucking more. why the fuck do you hate me so much anyways? Or do you just hate people who don't give you money? You tread people like Vod with more respect - just because he is a hero member? No offence on Vod whatsoever. You should learn to respect people... I had suggested before (which you didn't listen to, of course) that we both just ignore each other with the ignore button. a lot of stress is taken away on both sides. Monbux, I hate posers that's it. Your actions fit the profile. Not made I didn't get the money cause Ill have the money in my account on the 25th like the original post states. It just pisses me off trying to go by Forum standard to get a loan and do everything proper. TO have a bunch of idiots come in and muddy up shit. |
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So since you have killed my loan, can you give me the loan with the exact same information that I have given Andrew then you can determine if one could steal my identity
How did I kill your loan? Do you not understand - the guy is a scammer. He was never going to send you any BTC. He would have sent you another PM saying the lawyer wants you SSN just for the records and boom - you would have your identity stolen. Look at his language - he is neither mature or professional as I am. That being said, I only give loans with collateral. Like I asked Andrew at the start of all this, what would I do with your ID should you not pay me back? This guy has not scammed anyone, you have no proof. That's why you keep resorting to the "he said he has a lawyer friend" He has never asked for my SSN and his language doesn't mean anything. We are in a public environment, not a professional setting so word usage means nothing. The fact that you bring up you speak professional earns you a scammer tag by your own standards. Your basing your decisions off of what if's. He has never asked for anything that would give control of my identy and yet BTCjam and other lenders require similar if not more information. Why would you wait till I give the last file to get my loan to start bulling a user. As a professional, you should no making accusations based off something you have no knowledge of is childish. As being a Professional you would already, a lawyer is not goin to take his time to call or email a person to appease some random user on a chat forum. So shows that you are not interested in Good users or Scam user, just to exercise some bogus control issue you have |
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You taking shit out of context,
He said he had a friend look over it, getting a second opinion. Weather his friend is lawyer, cop, dog, President or the pope doest matter.
Askin someone if a document will hold up in court, that happens to be a lawyer is not trying to make himself look credible.
Am I? He's clearly lying about have an attorney for a friend, since there would be no harm in having the attorney email me. What am I going to do = harass a lawyer?  My friend is an attorney. He is helping me write up the new contract. Basically if he doesn't pay me back my attorney friend will be able to file against him and request summary judgement.
Forum Member - "Hmmm, he is working with a lawyer, I feel safer sending him my personal information."Do you see why we MUST ask for proof when people make such claims? So since you have killed my loan, can you give me the loan with the exact same information that I have given Andrew then you can determine if one could steal my identity |
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Vod is an equal opportunity destroyer. If there is a way for him to fuck something, up he will.
I'm going back to my real life. Something Vod lacks and tries to make up for on the internet. It really is pathetic when you think about it.
i3lome I may still loan to you, but I am going to have to do it with a clear head. Having idiots like this attack someone like me, who is trying to help the community is troubling. I most others on this forum are not so pathetic.
Sorry about all this bullshit, If you can do the loan I would appreciate it. If not I completly understand. |
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It's my first time leaving feedback, I did not know you could leave feedback on a 0 sum transaction, my mistake. I'll fix it if someone shows me how copy and paste the words you said (meh) and repost it... Bro, get off my thread and eat a dick, you see all this clustefuck going on now you wanna nose it, drop your 2 cents to feel like the bigger man. |
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VOD well since you have had a hand im making sure I dont get the loan I need, Can I provide you with the same documents that Andrew Accepted. And you cover my loan.
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I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO PROVE TO YOU!
Yes you do. You claimed to have an attorney friend to make yourself look credible so people will trust you more. That is something scammers do. Either you prove it, or as far as I am concerned you are a scammer. Have a good night, just not here.  You taking shit out of context, He said he had a friend look over it, getting a second opinion. Weather his friend is lawyer, cop, dog, President or the pope doest matter. Askin someone if a document will hold up in court, that happens to be a lawyer is not trying to make himself look credible. |
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Vod, that feedback is crap, the documents that were givin arnt near enough to have my identity stolen.
You feedback holds no merit and you dont know exactly what files i did send, so your fliggin shit at the wall to see what sticks.
Again, I have a Uncle that is a Virginia State Trooper thats a cop, and am related to a lawyer. There should be enough grounds to lable me a scammer according to your values.
This is totally wrong your falsly accusing someone with no proof. So i ask you can you remove the feedback, we will have proof either way it goes, Not just some false assumtion.
I am the one that already sent and agreed to the terms, THis transaction has nothing do to with you VOD, as u have already denied my loan and moved on.
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Then, when you type something dumb about me having a friend who is an attorney, you get mad I defend myself and leave me negative feedback, even though you've never done business with me.
You disagree with what I say, so you leave me bad feedback when we've never traded.
I did specify that I risked 0.0, so that means we never traded. I don't trust you. You are making up stories that do not make sense. Have your lawyer friend email me so I can prove he is legit. Then I would be happy to remove my negative trust. Can you remove the negative feedback, AndrewWilliams has done nothing wrong, This is my deal and I do not feel that I have been scammed. There are other lenders out asking the same information. While i have disclosed who I really am and provided documents, HE has NEVER asked for the one KEY that he needs to take an Identity. AndrewWilliams is only trying to protect himself, that is no Reason for Negative trust Thank you i3lome. Why did you send negative feedback back to Vod? That says you risked 1 bitcoin. Now, did that actually happen?
Vod, you're a troll and an idiot.
LOL? What is so funny? You come here, on someone else's request for a loan, and proceed the thread crap on the only willing lender.
Then, when you type something dumb about me having a friend who is an attorney, you get mad I defend myself and leave me negative feedback, even though you've never done business with me.
You disagree with what I say, so you leave me bad feedback when we've never traded.
The deal with i3lome is off until you remove your negative feedback Vod, you troll.
Good job chasing away the only willing lender, and someone who actually knows what the hell he is doing on this forum. Twat.
And i3lome, stop feeding the trolls. All it gets you is a dead deal.
i3lome, will you see who's the troll? It's Andrew. I feel a bad for you, this could be identity theft. I have no proof, that's just what i'll assume. Vod is warning other loaners and lenders, what is right and wrong. He does not have proof, but I feel like you don't need proof to express an opinion. See, now you won't loan, BUT you still have the ID... I won't make anymore claims, but Andrew, not loaning someone when you have their ID, that's kinda... fucked up. I understand you might be pissed a Vod, but what does i3lome have to do with that? Monbux fuck off duede go get your posts somwhere else |
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Can either the loan be issued, that way Vod, can removed the negative feedback. Since everything is being done as agreed between AndrewWilliam and me.
I offered to remove the feedback if he had his "lawyer" contact me. His response was to leave me negative feedback as well (yes, after boldly complaining how I left him negative feedback he decides to play the hypocrite lol) Since I doubt he will ever provide proof, looks like you got scammed i3lome  Why did you send negative feedback back to Vod? That says you risked 1 bitcoin. Now, did that actually happen?
Vod- you are doing nothing but giving false accustations, this would all be cleared up if you could only remove the Negative feedback. The only one that makes me feel as if I have been scammed is you -VOD Im an adult and can make my own decision, meaning that if i choose to do the wrong thing it is my fault. Vod- this deal had nothing to do with you, you rejected my loan cause of my no trust. Now your protecting me. Dont make no since, noone needs to prove anything. No one was scammed and a positive transaction was about to take place till you killed it. Remove the negative feedback,please I am scammed it is my right to leave the negative feedback. I have a cousing thats a lawyer and my Uncle is a Virgina state trooper. Do i get negative feedback for that Nope - he never risked any bitcoin as I have never dealt with him. He's a scammer. |
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Wow this went horribly wrong but have a possible solutions to clear everything up.
Since no one has dont anything wrong, can we pick up where we left off.
I sent the required documents before the clusterfrick of posts.
Can we all agree on one thing
Documents Provide- Done
Awaiting Negative Feedback Removal.
Loan Given.
To clear up everything,
Can either the loan be issued, that way Vod, can removed the negative feedback. Since everything is being done as agreed between AndrewWilliam and me.
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Then, when you type something dumb about me having a friend who is an attorney, you get mad I defend myself and leave me negative feedback, even though you've never done business with me.
You disagree with what I say, so you leave me bad feedback when we've never traded.
I did specify that I risked 0.0, so that means we never traded. I don't trust you. You are making up stories that do not make sense. Have your lawyer friend email me so I can prove he is legit. Then I would be happy to remove my negative trust. Can you remove the negative feedback, AndrewWilliams has done nothing wrong, This is my deal and I do not feel that I have been scammed. There are other lenders out asking the same information. While i have disclosed who I really am and provided documents, HE has NEVER asked for the one KEY that he needs to take an Identity. AndrewWilliams is only trying to protect himself, that is no Reason for Negative trust |
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How is Professor a scam? He has over 5 successful trades posted.
No he doesn't. Vod, you should really think before you type.
I'll say the same to you. You claim to have a "lawyer" who will help you in court, when any lawyer would tell you the interest rates you are charging are illegal, so you won't have a valid contract anyway. Doesn't make sense, and when it doesn't make sense, chances are it's not true. It's so funny how his "friend" would be willing to help him for such little cases. perhaps it is a very bad, unemployed lawyer  How come the ID was not given to escrow, and escrow would release the ID if loaner defaults? I know it's risky like that, and the ID might be fake - but in my opinion that would be more safe for i3lome. My thoughts escrow would have been awesome but I with Andrew taking the monetary risk, i felt i could risk my identity to trust him. As for fake id-the holograms are visable and noticable in the scan, |
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AndrewWilliams, check PM. Current registration has been sent to you.
To those concerned, the Repayment deal does seem high. I agree whole heartly with the terms and the repayment amount. Like everyone says nothing in life is free.
Like any other loans the lack of collateral presents a risk, and with risk comes reward. Andrew is willing to take that risk, and I will not let him down.
Ive been open and honest with my intentions and have tried to meet the requirments in a timely manner. I plan on being around the scene for a long time. Andrew is the only person willing to give me a chance to prove I am worthy. I am greatful and will publicly post the progress of the loan so everyone can see.
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