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181  Economy / Speculation / Re: [WO] Meat Maximalism on: April 25, 2021, 11:29:03 AM
Skipping around a bit, to establish some context:

Next, you’ll be telling me that rising sea levels will make Earth uninhabitable by the year 2000.  You are obviously not old enough to remember that, and most people anyway forget each week what they read the last week; but I have a long memory...
Yep cant remember the year 2000, I wasnt even born for a few years after that.

I could tell that you were young, but I didn’t realize that you were that young.  Perhaps I was confused by the amount of money that you have sometimes claimed to be throwing around.  Most teenagers are financially unsophisticated, and also broke.

Now, a critical thinking question:  To remember predictions made about a future Year 2000, how old would you need to be?

I’m not doxing my age here.  I “remember” things from the 1950s, and the 1930s, and the 1770s—and 480 B.C.  Because I study history.  The latest exemplars that I recall of doomsday climate change predictions for the Year 2000 were from the late 1980s.  I may or may not personally remember the 1980s from direct experience.

Obiter dictum, I always find it remarkable to talk to people who don’t remember a world before Facebook, Twitter, and anthropoid cattle tracking devices “smart” phones.  (Viz., before proper punctuation became unfashionable.)  Or America’s global terror-war of bombing people into “freedom” to stop The Terrorists.  Or...

If any of us survives the near future, then perhaps someday you will have a similar view of people who are too young to remember the world before “the Covid New Normal”.  Do you remember what the world was like before Covid?  —Will you remember that in twenty years—in forty years?  How will you perceive the children who were born after?  How warped, twisted, and shallow will their worldview seem to you, when they are adults who never knew the world in which you grew up?

I challenge you to think about this, so as to shift your perspective.  When you view the world this way, you can transcend the narrow contextual bubble of the present and become a bit of a time traveller.

My, how convenient this is for BigCorp agribiz.  You believe that the type of meat best produced by small, independent farmers on land that they own (and presumably care about) is “the most unsustainable”.
Not really convenient for them, I believe all meat is unsustainable and unethical, [← This is a run-on sentence, but it’s ok, we have bigger problems to fix first, because the “education” received by persons born after the Year 2000 is evidently even more abominable than I had hereto imagined.]

That seems to be both your premise and your conclusion.

[...] local farms just happen to be smaller business and as a fundamental law of economics, they cannot scale as how larger corporations can.  [← See?  You can do it!]  But even with all the scaling its still incredibly unsustainable and by the nature of efficiency it is much crueler, which is why I dont eat any animal products.

Scaling doesn’t usually work the way that people expect.  For example, as we all know, to “scale” Bitcoin by raising the blocksize limit would have many negative consequences which may not seem obvious in advance:  Explosion in the UTXO set size (a resource-intensive burden to all nodes), increased orphan rate for miners, etc., etc..  It is not only a matter of more disk space.

To scale up meat production by packing animals into little boxes, injecting them full of crap, and feeding them utter garbage is not what I would call “sustainable” in any way.  I would not even call it “productive”, insofar as both process and product are inferior.

It is, of course, not so different than packing so-called “humans” into modern urban environments, injecting them full of crap, feeding them utter garbage...  You are a cow managed by an iDroid device.

By close analogy, this reminds me of the time that I saw an advertisement proudly touting “corn-fed beef”, as if that were a good thing for anyone other than the large corporations that control the corn markets, and their pesticide providers, and the stockholders thereof, and their bankers.
Cows are already fed corn amongst other feed pretty sure, this is just marketing BS to put on a higher price tag on the crap product they are already selling.

In this context, “corn-fed” would implicitly stand in contradistinction to “grass-fed”.  The latter ideally means letting the cattle walk around in a pasture, and munch on what they please.  The difference in meat quality is significant; I am not only joking about it.

Obviously, grazing cattle is less efficient from a bean-counting business perspective.  Among other things, it requires land husbandry to prevent overgrazing from ruining the pastures.

Anyway, enjoy believing whatever garbage you have loaded into a brain that is operating suboptimally due to your vegan diet.
I believed everything I said before I was vegan too, which is why I'm vegan in the first place.  [← Wow!  Another period!  I am soooo proud of you.  —  People say that I am a jerk; and although I DGAF about their opinions, I figure that I may as well try some so-called “positive reïnforcement” for good behaviour.  How is it working?  Are you feeling reïnforced yet?  Sigh.  Being helpful can sometimes be so thankless.]

I once knew someone who had switched to a vegan diet as a teenager.  She permanently stunted her adolescent growth, so she always looked rather odd in an unpleasant way.  I’m not sure how much of that was intentional; it seems she did intentionally starve herself outright.  I infer that she probably had an underlying eating disorder, which manifested in her becoming a vegan zealot.  When she was in her twenties, she had a series of mental breakdowns that occasionally required hospitalization; she would be in her forties now...  Anyway, I haven’t only read about veganism on the Internet.  I have known a number of vegans IRL.  All of them were, without exception, quite insane.  But that is unsurprising; what always surprised me about them was the smell—a subtle sort of a cloying sick-animal smell that hung in the air about them.  I have the nose of a dog, so I pick up on such things as others do not.

By the way, no:  I do not actually eat an all-meat diet.  But that is only because I cannot afford it.  I was too much of an idealist when I was your age.  I did not care about money until, in the course of years, I learned the hard way that although money cannot buy happiness, it can prevent unhappiness!  For example, if you have money, then you can afford to have a Platinum account for emergencies.

...for the record, I advocate humane slaughter.

Stress at the end ruins the juicy taste of freedom and happiness in the meat.

Depending on where you live, "Humane" is a gas chamber, or a knife to the throat.

You know those scary-looking electric stun bolts that PETA misrepresents as cruel?  Those are anesthetics.  Anesthetics need not be chemical!  Look it up in a resource about animal husbandry, not a PETA pamphlet.

Given the choice between being killed while conscious, versus being zapped into instant unconsciousness and then killed, I am guessing that you would probably prefer to be zapped.  From my perspective, it will keep you juicy and delicious; humane butchers actually examine meat for stress marks that are indicia of low quality.

* nullius toasts SwayStar123 with a nice Chianti.
182  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Blockchain explorer privacy (or the lack thereof) on: April 25, 2021, 08:15:20 AM
The difference is that Blockstream’s Esplora is open-source, and you can install it locally.  This is important, if you don’t want to give some database out there a neat little list of every address that interests you—plus timestamps of your queries.  The timing and order of your queries are metadata which can be used to draw further inferences.

Here's the thing about Esplora. If someone's going to make a self-hosted explorer, it will require a DB or some kind of persistent storage to be set up alongside it so that things like get-all-transactions-from-address which aren't natively supposed by full nodes can be done.

Of course!

Does Esplora connect to some local DB (or even use some key-value store)?

Of course!

Maybe it does, because the command to launch it makes you connect some Docker volume to it. But as far as I can see in the README, I don't see any way to pass the IP address of a full node. So where does it get its queries from?

The README links to the following, which in turn links back to the documentation for setting up the Esplora stack with Docker.  N.b. that if you are only running automated processes, this is really the piece that you want:

Esplora - Electrs backend API

A block chain index engine and HTTP API written in Rust based on romanz/electrs.

Used as the backend for the Esplora block explorer powering blockstream.info.

API documentation is available here.

Documentation for the database schema and indexing process is available here.

Installing & indexing

Install Rust, Bitcoin Core (no txindex needed) and the clang and cmake packages, then:

Code:
$ git clone https://github.com/blockstream/electrs && cd electrs
$ git checkout new-index
$ cargo run --release --bin electrs -- -vvvv --daemon-dir ~/.bitcoin

# Or for liquid:
$ cargo run --features liquid --release --bin electrs -- -vvvv --network liquid --daemon-dir ~/.liquid

See electrs's original documentation for more detailed instructions. Note that our indexes are incompatible with electrs's and has to be created separately.

The indexes require 610GB of storage after running compaction (as of June 2020), but you'll need to have free space of about double that available during the index compaction process. Creating the indexes should take a few hours on a beefy machine with SSD.

To deploy with Docker, follow the instructions here.

Light mode

For personal or low-volume use, you may set --lightmode to reduce disk storage requirements by roughly 50% at the cost of slower and more expensive lookups.

[...more useful information...]
183  Economy / Speculation / Re: [WO] Meat Maximalism on: April 25, 2021, 07:25:31 AM
Protip:  Range-grazed meat tastes better.  All of the freedom and happiness that the meat enjoyed whilst alive makes it juicier and more delicious.

The most unsustainable type of meat.

My, how convenient this is for BigCorp agribiz.  You believe that the type of meat best produced by small, independent farmers on land that they own (and presumably care about) is “the most unsustainable”.

By close analogy, this reminds me of the time that I saw an advertisement proudly touting “corn-fed beef”, as if that were a good thing for anyone other than the large corporations that control the corn markets, and their pesticide providers, and the stockholders thereof, and their bankers.

Next, you’ll be telling me that rising sea levels will make Earth uninhabitable by the year 2000.  You are obviously not old enough to remember that, and most people anyway forget each week what they read the last week; but I have a long memory...  Anyway, enjoy believing whatever garbage you have loaded into a brain that is operating suboptimally due to your vegan diet.


Protip:  Range-grazed meat tastes better.  All of the freedom and happiness that the meat enjoyed whilst alive makes it juicier and more delicious.

the most unsustainable type of meat

Just need to make sure that it suffers at the end, the tears will help it tenderize

I know you’re joking; but for the record, I advocate humane slaughter.

Stress at the end ruins the juicy taste of freedom and happiness in the meat.
184  Economy / Speculation / [WO] Many words about round numbers, etc., etc. on: April 25, 2021, 07:09:12 AM


Crypto?

Shortest JJG post ever:  Wordy-man ATL!  That’s it:  Bitcoin is dead.  Selling all my coins now...

I already said uncle... didn't I?

I was not competing with you now.  I feared for the value of my bitcoins!  There is a market theory called the “JJG indicator”.  By comparison to most daytrading TA theories, it is mathematically proved and scientifically confirmed.  It says that when JJG runs out of words, then Bitcoin is a STRONG SELL and should be shorted at high leverage.

No pressure.  Wink  #nohomo

You surely are more wordy than me, when you are around.

You just disappear for a month at a time or perhaps 6 months to a year at a time.

Not saying that I am worried about you, but if you were persistent, you would not ONLY be MOAR wordy than the wordiest amongst us (speaking of yours truly for sure) but you would also have a post count to go along with it, too. 

#justsaying

At some point, real life takes over.  I’m not supposed to be here at all now; I should probably tie up some loose ends here, catch up on a few threads, and then devote my attentions elsewhere.  Call it a guilty pleasure.

Speaking of bitcoin prices, I have no real problema where we are at, currently, surely decent sized correction down to $47,555 (constituting about 27% correction from the top), and than maybe bouncing back to bounce around $50k-ish - and who is to say that the correction is over, exactly, but does not really seem to matter too much.

This is kind of like the stability that people should seem to want (and surely a way better place than the stability that you, nullius pullius, was calling for in around September-ish - if I am remembering my dates right?), but when we are here in this kind of seemingly stable place, a lot of peeps are actually moaning about it. 

I do like it.  For a long time, I had it set in my mind that $1 was worth “more or less somewhere around 10k sats”.  Now, it’s around 2k sats; that’s not quite as convenient as a power of ten, but it nonetheless makes mental estimations easy.  Bonus:  My bitcoins buy more when I need to spend them, which I try to avoid.

Round numbers tend to form Schelling points; so I would not be surprised if we need to cool off and take a breather before sufficient demand pressure forms to push us up to the next point.  That is my instinct, based on no market data and no “market research”.  Take it for what it’s worth.

In the abstract, I am also of the general opinion that slower, steadier growth is better for Bitcoin.  I know that you will say that “king daddy” doesn’t care what I want.  I am simply hoping for sustainable growth with less volatility and fewer, smaller corrections.  As more people—and moreover, more rich people become to some degree economically dependent on Bitcoin, I don’t think it’s unrealistic to hope that we can break out of the old market cycles.

Anyway, unless there is some extreme black swan (death of the Internet, Roosevelt-style seizure by a superpower government, etc.), I reasonably expect that Bitcoin will get to $100k and $1m and beyond.  It took awhile to reach a sustainable floor above $1k, and above $10k; what difference does it make if the market bounces around and solidifies for awhile at $50k?

At this juncture, Jay, I will say something that you will hate:  If you want to make 100x fast (at high risk of losing everything), go invest in altcoins!  Because:  Risk and reward.  Whereas Bitcoin is becoming a safe investment, at least relative to what it was a few years ago.  If you want something that you can buy, put into cold storage, and then just not worry about in the long term, then you must be satisfied with a measly 2x or 5x gain here and there.  It’s not the first time I’ve said this:  Bitcoin is becoming a relatively boring investment—and that’s a good thing!

It is because of that safety that I would now feel comfortable recommending significant Bitcoin investments to the types of people who probably couldn’t have handled it before.  I myself almost wholly ignored the worst of the big bear market of 2018:  I just let my coins sit where they were, stopped watching the ticker, stopped reading the news—didn’t waste time with it, didn’t worry.  That was with my life savings.  But I realize that I am unusual.  When Bitcoin reaches the point that ordinary, average types of people can be advised to put a chunk of their money into Bitcoin—not all, but a good chunk—and just forget about it, then I think that the Bitcoin market will be maturing to the point that we can get that steady growth.  And that forms a positive feedback loop, insofar as the steadier the market is, the more that we can bring “normies” into it.

I think rejoice in respects to the place where we happen to be - even if we might get some further drops.. up to 40% or 50% is not necessarily unusual, even though I am not sure about how high the odds would be beyond seeming to have a kind of potential trend is your friend kind of situation that some of us would prefer NOT to have, and surely seems like UPpity is going to continue at some point.. but just not always clear about how long such UPpity continuation is going to take to actually be noticed as continuing UPpity.

For my part, I am happy with $50k for now.  I am bemused to see people talking about a “crash”.  What crash?  Do people even remember what the number was only half a year ago?  Roll EyesRoll EyesRoll EyesRoll EyesRoll Eyes

^^^ Consider that to be my curmudgeonly take on the JJG style of stacked smilies.

I do hope not to see further huge drops.  That could be a real crash.  The $50k range (plus or minus, say, 10%) would be a good point to rest without too much panic, mindrusting, or bears coming out in force; and I hope to see a firm floor develop here, for jumping off to the next point.
185  Economy / Reputation / Re: Request Support (or Opposition) for Flags here! on: April 25, 2021, 03:27:13 AM
#2693768 “UpAgain” is creating a spate of ridiculous threads and soliciting money in various ways.  I created Flag #2737 with the requisite scam accusations thread to gather the evidence in one place, and get a warning banner on his threads before some newbie gets suckered into sending him money somehow.  Please support.

(In my personal opinion, this user does not deserve his own thread; but that’s how the flag system works, so—I waste my time with flag bureaucracy.)
186  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: #2693768 “UpAgain”: Self-alleged multibillionaire soliciting funds in shady ways on: April 25, 2021, 03:17:17 AM
Reserved.
187  Economy / Scam Accusations / #2693768 “UpAgain”: Self-alleged multibillionaire soliciting funds in shady ways on: April 25, 2021, 03:17:05 AM
Flag #2737
User: #2693768 “UpAgain” (trust page)

Current snapshot of post history (snapshot is missing items deleted by moderators, as noted below):  https://archive.is/z4577

Summary:  This user has been making wild and self-contradictory claims about his own wealth, while he solicits money from people in multiple ways that are consistent with common scams.  His recent history is a bountiful bouquet of concrete red flags of a high risk for trading; I will simply gather the evidence in one place here, and let it speak for itself.



This account “woke up” at 2021-04-23 04:16:53.  Thereupon, he claimed to suffer a mental illness caused by the market crash–and then claimed that he was a “whale”, claimed that he caused the market crash, and claimed to have $90 billion worth of BTC.  Note that the primarily pertinent thread appears to have been wholly trashed by the moderators; please use the below archive.is links or the Loyce.club scrape.

Bitcoin Forum > Other > Off-topic > I am diagnosed with severe PTSD
https://archive.is/NVe0O#selection-397.0-480.3

Market crash caused me severe PTSD Doctor  prescribe dme Zoloft and I do EMDR treatments.
Hope things will get better.  Cry

Bitcoin Forum > Bitcoin > Bitcoin Discussion (Moderator: hilariousandco) > I am a bitcoin Whale
https://archive.is/sTLwd#selection-389.0-479.61

Whenever I sell my BTC prices drops 12% and you all panic sell. Then I buy cheap.
This is how it has been working for me and how I make money.

Nice timestamps there.  Does your allegedly diagnosed mental condition have psychotic features, or is this supposed to be therapeutic, or are you trying to make some sort of a satirical statement?

What is with other posters who do not know how to check post history on a Newbie account claiming to be a whale?

https://archive.is/OwqO8#selection-5135.0-5263.91
How do I make all of the other idiots here READ THE THREAD so that they see the obscenely obvious thing that I posted a few minutes ago?

/thread


I had 100Billion and now I have only 90Billion I still have PTSD. 10Billion is not a joke.

He then claimed that he is starting his own altcoin...

Bitcoin Forum > Alternate cryptocurrencies > Announcements (Altcoins) (Moderators: mprep, Welsh) > I open my cryptocurrency
https://archive.is/e0rfb#selection-409.0-503.18

hello i launch new crypto on 30/4 please join my crypto? how much mony you put in my coin?

Name coin: Saevus (SAE)


This is the future

...and started seeking a BTC loan on dubious terms.

Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Marketplace > Lending > Looking for 0.1b BTC loan give 0.2 BTC after 35 days
https://archive.is/m6xcz#selection-395.0-495.34 (Some earlier and later archives are available; OP appears to be unedited, but click the prior/next links if desired.)

Looking for 0.1b BTC loan give 0.2 BTC after 35 days



Collateral : I give domain of my website i have web make 3k every month easy.


Btc adress:
35uipAgEzS2E7CQN5Q4edrPaeCuvZKF8v5

Just in the foregoing, he hit 2 of the 3 most common scams that I have seen on this forum—but he does a terrible job of it, while he makes absurd claims about himself.  Either he is trolling whilst waving around a BTC address (as I recall having seen another account do a few months ago), or he is just plain scamming.  Either way, the risk is obvious; and people would be well-advised to exercise extreme caution in dealing with this account.
188  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SCAM] I open my cryptocurrency on: April 25, 2021, 02:22:20 AM
OP here has variously claimed that he is mentally ill, claimed that he is a multi-billionaire, and sought BTC loans on dubious terms.

I think we can safely presume that he is either trolling or scamming, or both.

hello i launch new crypto on 30/4 please join my crypto? how much mony you put in my coin?

Name coin: Saevus (SAE)


This is the future

Wow, such an informative prospectus for potential investors!  Being duly diligent, I put zero “mony” in your coin.


Edit:  Snapshot of this thread:  https://archive.is/e0rfb
189  Economy / Speculation / [WO] Whips & Blockchains (Weak Hands Masochism Edition) on: April 24, 2021, 10:35:17 PM
I don’t know what is more painful: being a nocoiner seeing BTC rise to $100k+ or panic selling into this dip, only to see BTC going $100k+ afterwards  Roll Eyes

Both scenarios are for pathetic, beta males.

Perhaps instead of “king daddy”, we should rebrand Bitcoin as a dominatrix.  She spanks weak hands, as she tells them in graphic detail how much smaller their penises are than those of the Hodlers.

Ironically, this would probably make weak hands buy more Bitcoin.  Masochistic thrills.




Some pretty convincing posts.. I’m not scared.. Hodling

I DGAF.  I didn’t get into Bitcoin to get rich; I got into it for freedom.  The increase in the value of my savings is a bonus; it is an allure that makes me find Bitcoin even more attractive than I already did.  So, what, there is a little dip?  I wish that I had some more government shitcoins to dupm.  Hodling.

Maybe buy some more somewhere in the 40s if I can catch it..

I would buy more right now if I could.  I wished that I could catch it around $50k, and it’s now around $50k; so...
190  Economy / Speculation / Re: [WO] How to scam like DoCtOr Wright on: April 24, 2021, 09:36:44 PM
I invented cryptography.

Also, I invented mathematics, fire, and the wheel.  If you post any of these things on your website, or if you have a website without a licence from me, then I will sue hell out of you!

If you've invented fire, then I've invented water! Cool Sue me!

I invented hydrogen, oxygen, protons, electrons, and neutrons.  I will sue you for your pirate “invention” of water derived from my intellectual property.

Last time I saw you at WO, we were talking about grandpa Merits. Well, I'm at 600+ now Cool Less effort I put in getting Merits, more I get of them.

If only Btc worked by that exact same principle. Cool

Getting BTC to rain down like the merit shitcoin is easy!  Just ask DoCtOr Wright.  All that you need to do is to be a pathological liar, scam a bunch of people into believing that you are Satoshi Nakamoto, maliciously abuse legal process to harass, intimidate, and financially damage anyone who calls you out, and pump-and-dump your forked-up fake bitcoin.  Then, you can buy Bitcoin or anything else.  Except for honour, basic decency, and a soul; but who cares about that stuff?

too much sunglass smileys for one post, sorry #nohomo

Awww, it’s ok!  Your sunglass smileys are like totally fabulous.  #nohomo  Cool
191  Other / Archival / Re: Alleged billionaire looking for 0.1b BTC loan give 0.2 BTC after 35 days on: April 24, 2021, 09:05:56 PM
Don’t worry.  He is a whale with $90 billion worth of BTC.

Bitcoin Forum > Other > Off-topic > I am diagnosed with severe PTSD
https://archive.is/NVe0O#selection-397.0-480.3

Market crash caused me severe PTSD Doctor  prescribe dme Zoloft and I do EMDR treatments.
Hope things will get better.  Cry

Bitcoin Forum > Bitcoin > Bitcoin Discussion (Moderator: hilariousandco) > I am a bitcoin Whale
https://archive.is/sTLwd#selection-389.0-479.61

Whenever I sell my BTC prices drops 12% and you all panic sell. Then I buy cheap.
This is how it has been working for me and how I make money.

Nice timestamps there.  Does your allegedly diagnosed mental condition have psychotic features, or is this supposed to be therapeutic, or are you trying to make some sort of a satirical statement?

What is with other posters who do not know how to check post history on a Newbie account claiming to be a whale?

https://archive.is/OwqO8#selection-5135.0-5263.91
How do I make all of the other idiots here READ THE THREAD so that they see the obscenely obvious thing that I posted a few minutes ago?

/thread


I had 100Billion and now I have only 90Billion I still have PTSD. 10Billion is not a joke.

h/t Death Angel for keeping up on his latest activities here.


Edit:  Snapshot of this thread; quote of OP for reference:

Looking for 0.1b BTC loan give 0.2 BTC after 35 days



Collateral : I give domain of my website i have web make 3k every month easy.


Btc adress:
35uipAgEzS2E7CQN5Q4edrPaeCuvZKF8v5

Note that user #2693768 “woke up” at 2021-04-23 04:16:53.
192  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 24, 2021, 08:57:34 PM
I invented cryptography.

Also, I invented mathematics, fire, and the wheel.  If you post any of these things on your website, or if you have a website without a licence from me, then I will sue hell out of you!
193  Economy / Speculation / Re: [WO] The threshold test of desirability on: April 24, 2021, 07:55:40 PM
...whenever I go to a strip joint.

Ah, Bunny.  I’ve been intending to inquire, who is this?



I am asking for a friend.  He is performing academic sociological research on the bodily semiotics employed by whatever porn stars are popular nowadays.  For the sake of science, please sauce this girl.  Thanks.

* nullius trolls WO “for the articles”.

A youngish Ava Addams.

Thanks.  So, does she do Bitcoin?

Forget what I said about “science”.  This is the important question!

Not sexy:



It`s actually Michelle Wild.
She hasn`t been active for years, though.
So no btc-option (or any other) - most likely

Thanks.  Interesting.  This one has a Wikipedia page.  I must now retrain the facial recognition AI that I use as a visual classifier for distinguishing human-shaped objects.

This research is of utmost import—not for science, but for art.  For you see, as a developer of bespoke enterprise solutions, I do not seek to buy COTS porn!  Rather, when I ask, “does she do Bitcoin?”, the reason is that I want to film a girl literally doing Bitcoin.  (Use your imagination.)

Well, it is for science, too:  I also need a creative way to test empirically whether or not a Ledger is water-resistant.  (Use your imagination...)  If the test fails, then I may need to recover her with my... seed phrase.  The wallet, I mean.  No way will Michelle be let to know my cryptographic secrets!  Although, switching topics, I think that she and I could give new meaning to the term generative adversarial network.
194  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 24, 2021, 07:32:21 PM
Saved it, then fucked it.  It was like deflowering a virgin.



Toxic, please start over with a new account now.  Thanks.
195  Economy / Speculation / Re: [WO] Meat Maximalism on: April 24, 2021, 07:07:01 PM
Red ink added by nullius:
[...] like if you actually cared you'd be vegan already, considering that the meat industry is responsible for 30% of the worlds carbon emissions.

I will spell this out in modern language.

Bitcoiners eat:

🥩 🍖 🥓

“Bitcoin is a revolt against fiat money, and an all-meat diet is a revolt against fiat food.”
Michael Goldstein, founder of the Satoshi Nakamoto Institute (source)

$€🥬 → 🐑🐑🐑 → 🥩

The fuck is fiat food?

Packaged poison that’s cheap to grow, easy to process in mass-production, and shelf-stable to support long supply chains.  Viz., fodder for anthropoid livestock.

(I thereby speak for myself, of course.  If you want Michael Goldstein’s opinion, then you will need to ask him.)

Bitcoin carnivory sounds dumb.

I guess that money not backed by any government is the part that sounds dumb, yes?  Wink

Our ancestors definitely were not on a primarily meat based diet, so its definitely not "natural".

Speak for your own ancestors.  Perhaps between hunts for fresh meat, mine were conquering yours to capture slaves, women, and gold.

(Or perhaps I may be a mutant.  I am never quite sure whether I am a new species, or an atavism from the time before modern evolutionary degeneration.)

If anything eating only meat is the most unnatural thing you could do, considering the practices of animal agricultural industries.

You sound like a city slicker.  Who said anything about the industrial meat business?

Protip:  Range-grazed meat tastes better.  All of the freedom and happiness that the meat enjoyed whilst alive makes it juicier and more delicious.

Sheep are delicious.  So are their opinions.

196  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Blockchain explorer privacy (or the lack thereof) on: April 24, 2021, 06:21:12 PM
So, thus far, this thread has seen recommendations for three different explorer APIs.

The difference is that Blockstream’s Esplora is open-source, and you can install it locally.  This is important, if you don’t want to give some database out there a neat little list of every address that interests you—plus timestamps of your queries.  The timing and order of your queries are metadata which can be used to draw further inferences.

As a matter of policy, I assume that every block explorer is a surveillance operation.  Don’t trust any of them!  What I like about Blockstream is that they make it so that you don’t need to trust them:  Run what is essentially your own copy of Blockstream.info on your own machine!  (And if you do query their server, then you should at least use their v3 onion so that you leak less information to them.  And you should learn how to do Tor circuit isolation.)



Am I the only one who stops to think about what information I am giving out when I query other people’s databases?  Or in the Age of Facebook, is that type of concern just passé?
197  Economy / Speculation / [WO] Whither Satoshi? (Wherever he went, he would NOT pollute the UTXO set!) on: April 24, 2021, 05:42:05 PM
Satoshi is gone for good. If he wanted to cash out, he'd have cashed out already. If he wanted to reassure the world that those coins are gone, he'd burn them by moving them to some known black hole address.

Nooooooo!  Satoshi would not spam the UTXO set.

PSA:  Never use burn addresses!  They are bad for Bitcoin, bad for nodes, bad for scalability.  If you want to destroy bitcoins, place them in the amount field of an OP_RETURN output.  That is unspendable, according to consensus rules; thus, the output is pruned from the UTXO set.  Auditors of Bitcoin’s supply typically also subtract OP_RETURN amounts from Bitcoin’s supply cap.

The UTXO set size is one of Bitcoin’s biggest scalability issues (so to speak).  Please don’t make it worse by polluting the UTXO set with bloat that nodes will need to track forever and forever.  Be environmentally responsible!

See how I irrevocably destroyed one satoshi in a sane and responsible way (txid 000000000fdf0c61...).


Satoshi is gone for good. If he wanted to cash out, he'd have cashed out already. If he wanted to reassure the world that those coins are gone, he'd burn them by moving them to some known black hole address. The fact that the coins are still there after all that happened with bitcoin and finance and multiteradollar marketcap can have two explanations:

1 - Satoshi is gone for good
2 - Satoshi likes to keep bitcoiners on their toes

I lean towards 1.
Third option: Satoshi is in jail.

Fourth option:  He lost his keys.  But perhaps the keys may not be unrecoverable.  There are other cases of people who had crashed hard disks or whatnot, who later recovered their coins after some effort and expense.  In Satoshi’s case, he probably would not want to risk hiring professional services to help him; thus, it would be even more difficult for him.

Fifth option:  Satoshi is drugged and tortured in a CIA black site, because the US is cancer and they play dirty.

Sixth option:  Satoshi is alive, well, and at liberty.  He is also smarter and more realistic than all of the people talking monkeys who speculate about him.  He realizes that nobody knows how many coins he has—the “Satoshi has a million bitcoins!” meme is just that, merely a meme, a rumour based on vexed and unreliable evidence.

Why would he move his coins?  Especially, why would he move all of his coins at once, which would effectually flag the coins as “probably Satoshi’s”?  And most of all, why the hell would he “cash out” when 1 BTC = 1 BTC?  Roll Eyes

(It should go without saying, he is probably not dumb enough to burn his coins “to reassure the world” or whatever.  WTF?  The coins are his.  He damn well earned them.)

For all you know, Satoshi is moving his coins.  Bit by bit.  Moving the balances of a few Satoshi-mined addresses per year (or whatever) into circulation, at random times.

Or he may simply be HoDLing.  Why fix what ain’t broken?

Its not like we have an exact list of Satoshis addresses.  For all we know, he already cashed out like 1 million and hes just living off of that and biding time for whatever his grand plan is.

That’s what I would do, if I were Satoshi.

Heirs.  Think long-term.  Is Satoshi a long-term thinker?  Only foolish commoners fail to put dynastic considerations first.  Perhaps the Nakamoto Dynasty is being founded with quite a royal treasury an Imperial Treasury.
198  Economy / Speculation / [WO] Meat Maximalism on: April 24, 2021, 05:11:29 PM
Red ink added by nullius:


I hate when people use this argument, like if you actually cared you'd be vegan already, considering that the meat industry is responsible for 30% of the worlds carbon emissions.

I will spell this out in modern language.

Bitcoiners eat:

🥩 🍖 🥓

“Bitcoin is a revolt against fiat money, and an all-meat diet is a revolt against fiat food.”
Michael Goldstein, founder of the Satoshi Nakamoto Institute (source)

$€🥬 → 🐑🐑🐑 → 🥩

Sheep are delicious.  So are their opinions.

199  Other / Meta / Re: Hacked account got banned on: April 24, 2021, 08:08:58 AM
As other users have pointed out, you have to provide evidence that you are the owner and I have to say that this is a lesson for you because if you have the right credentials that only the owner could know then you wouldn't be hassled by the slow progress of recovery. Your other issue is a ban which I hope can be appealed and have it lifted but I don't know any users that have gone that path and got their bans lifted.

🤬  Why didn’t you READ THE THREAD before posting?

I unlocked it.
I unlocked it.

Thank you!! Changed my password to an automatically generated one now, lets hope i dont get hacked again

Welcome back.  [...useful advice on opsec and grammar...]

<blink>:emoji: Never reuse passwords! :emoji: :emoji: :emoji:</blink>

HTH, HAND.



P.S., “Star Platinum” gets style points.  It is so much more aesthetic than the usual names that people use for “please unlock my account” alts!  +1 merit to the account’s first post so that Star Platinum can rank up to Jr. Member.  That gives you a basic signature, personal text, and image posting privileges.  Let your imagination run wild with the possibilities of a Star Platinum account!
200  Economy / Speculation / [WO] Upgrade to Star Platinum! on: April 24, 2021, 07:48:55 AM
Merited by nullius (1)
Hey guys im not active here so i dont remember any names really but wasnt there some guy who was ultra bearish almost every day here? What happened to him? Is he still around? I remember at like around 10k he was telling everyone to short for financial freedom or something

Oh, proudhon is still here.  His mathematical confirmations of the virtues of shorting Bitcoin are proof that we’re on our way to the moon.

The Wall Observer is still an extremely toxic community, too.  It’s lucky for you that platinum is a corrosion-resistant metal!
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