$9 million in some soon-to-be-worthless fiat. I'd be very worried if I stood to lose that much wealth within the next 3-5 years!

My average buy in is still only around ~$180, but has been going up steadily since 2014. Not that it will matter longterm.

Doubly true if you live in the U.S.

It's better to hold for anyone, whether you bought at 10 cents or $1000, everyone will make 10,000% + profits if they hold long enough.

Whatcha got to say now, ya clowns?

So you live on a secluded private tropical island community... that's supposed to be some kind of realistic solution for the masses? Really?

If I come over on a raft with nothing but the clothes on my back, will I be welcome with open arms, fed, and given meaningful work? Or turned away to the sea? Or starved to death and left in the streets?

What if I come over on a bigger raft with 900 fellow hungry and desperate poor. How would we be treated in your capitalist island community?

Could not agree more!

It already has!!!

Modern capitalism IS an oppressive totalitarian kleptocracy! That right there is the main difference between you and I, you believe this system is still redeemable in some way. I do not. Capitalism is absolutely rotten to the core and should be dustbinned just like we did with slavery.

Something we agree on!    Debt, waste, and racist policing for profit.

Primates do not belong in cages. Non-violent primates definitely do not ever belong in cages.

Violent primates belong in compassionate but secure mental rehabilitation facilities.

I suppose time will tell.

"extropian thinking places strong emphasis on rational thinking and practical optimism. These principles "do not specify particular beliefs, technologies, or policies". Extropians share an optimistic view of the future" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extropianism)

So they're:
-pro rationality and therefore
-anti superstition (which includes religion)
-optimistic about humanity's future

Sounds like they'd be on board with the view that humanity will soon transcend capitalism and socially evolve to a more empathic, more ecologically harmonious, less-violent, more reasoned state of being on this planet.

For those who want to understand the present state of affairs in the USA, read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism

Done.

Fixed that for you.

Apple pay is a non-factor only serving AT MOST the wealthiest 5% of the world (300 million / 7 billion = 5%). Here's why:

Correct. To successfully attack bitcoin the hashrate would need to go back down to 2010 levels. Not going to happen, ever.

Something like that.

Fiat scrip is the titanic that has just struck the iceberg, Bitcoin is the lifeboat.

I read recently that if everyone on the planet lived with a Rwandan standard of living, Earth could feasibly support a population of 15 billion. But if everyone lived with a North American standard of living, Earth could only support 1.2 billion humans.

The trouble is, everyone wants the better standard of living and no one seems to want to stop breeding...

The real pity is the mental anguish you will subject yourself to by clinging to a dying system built upon a foundation of falsehood about human nature.

To believe humans are inherently selfish creatures is to believe that a 300 years dead philosopher had a better grasp of our nature than the whole of modern science. An absurdity that borders on religious levels of non-logic. Why do you cling to this outdated Hobbesian notion in the face of the heaps of evidence I have laid out this very thread?  The only conclusion I can draw is that you are incapable of unlearning your indoctrination in the same way the religious person is incapable of unlearning theirs.

As religion is a language virus that dulls critical thinking, perhaps the same is true of any system instilled in the formative years which we are taught to accept without question. All authority must be questioned, all assertions must be questioned. Without the vital scientific tool of doubt, a child is left unable to discern for himself what is true from the myths the herd has accepted as "cultural truth".

Capitalism is one such cultural truth (read the Emphatic Ciyvilization). Homo Sapien monogamy is another (read Sex at Dawn). Both are lies. Both are melting away, right now. In capitalism's, dear reader, you should hope it is melting faster than the polar ice caps.

I hope one day we come to see formative years indoctrination as mental child abuse that is just as repugnant as physical abuse. Creating brainwashed intellectual cripples permanently damages not only the child but also the world.

The tricky thing about that is... I do understand you. I was subjected to the same indoctrination you were.

It's not just different perspectives friend, we are speaking different languages entirely. I speak the language of love, you speak the language of fear. I speak the language of future, you speak the language of past.

Empathy is a language much older than words, look within yourself and find it, and then we can speak truthfully.

I will say the only thing that matters, "I am suffering."

And you will reply, "I suffer too."

And we will see that we are all suffering, and we will begin to imagine ways to live without this suffering,  and our thoughts will flow to a better possible world. And then we will create a new reality as our species has done so many times before. Soon.